Andy Warhol 🇺🇸 Real or Fake? • Sunday B. Morning Print

[The Greased Piglet]

Aug 17, 2023 17:00:35 GMT 1 Wanchope said:

Interesting, I’ve noticed some have Whitney museum with a date next to it and another one with the museum of metropolitan art in the side and this one on eBay from Whitney again but without a date? Are there fakes of these about does anyone know ?

Plenty of copies yes, but the authentic ones all have different wiring down the side. They were printed on rolls of wall paper so it depends from where the impression was cut on the roll. Also each colourway corresponds to a different Museum show so obviously the date and venue change accordingly. 

[Someone Like You]

The authentic come with a certificate of Warhol’s estate ?

[jeeves]

Aug 17, 2023 19:32:31 GMT 1 Someone Like You said:

The authentic come with a certificate of Warhol’s estate ?

If you buy directly from his estate yes. This is a tiny fraction of the genuine ones that are out there though 

[Daniel Silk]

Nice little Marilyn if you're wanting a small Warhol.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CwPsmgRo9AD

[LJCal]

Yeah I’d say there are more signed ones than estate stamped

[Wanchope]

Are we saying there are stamps on the actual wallpaper piece itself or just on COA's?

Same with signatures - I haven't seen any with signatures so far, but what would be a ballpark for a signed piece?

[LJCal]

Aug 23, 2023 17:28:17 GMT 1 Wanchope said:

Are we saying there are stamps on the actual wallpaper piece itself or just on COA's?

Same with signatures - I haven't seen any with signatures so far, but what would be a ballpark for a signed piece?.

Both. See below, the letter of provenance varies depending on when it was issued.

Signed cows vary a lot depending on condition, colourway and provenance, I think you’d struggle to buy one for less than £25-30k but people are paying up to £50-55k.  

[Someone Like You]

This is the one sold by the Warhol Foundation on ebay not signed

[Someone Like You]

Anyway not signed hope to find one around 5/6K

[LJCal]

Aug 23, 2023 20:44:02 GMT 1 Someone Like You said:

This is the one sold by the Warhol Foundation on ebay not signed

Yeah they will add a unique code on the bottom which is quoted on the letter of provenance and can be used to confirm the authenticity with them. Obviously they don’t publish that 

[Someone Like You]

Aug 23, 2023 20:46:07 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Aug 23, 2023 20:44:02 GMT 1 Someone Like You said:

This is the one sold by the Warhol Foundation on ebay not signed

Yeah they will add a unique code on the bottom which is quoted on the letter of provenance and can be used to confirm the authenticity with them. Obviously they don’t publish that 

Thanks a lot for this info, so if find one without code on bottom could be a fake right?

[LJCal]

Aug 23, 2023 20:45:43 GMT 1 Someone Like You said:

Anyway not signed hope to find one around 5/6K

If you look at the 2nd tier auction houses you can buy them as this level, sometimes cheaper, obviously some risk involved if you’re not familiar with them as there are fakes, as these were essentially posters sold at the museum often very little provenance. I bought one for $2,000 about a year back which was absolutely fine (it had pretty good provenance) and ended up selling it through Sothebys so they are out there. 

[Wanchope]

Thanks for the info and advice Lcal, much appreciated as to what to avoid !

[LJCal]

Aug 23, 2023 20:48:20 GMT 1 Someone Like You said:

Aug 23, 2023 20:46:07 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Yeah they will add a unique code on the bottom which is quoted on the letter of provenance and can be used to confirm the authenticity with them. Obviously they don’t publish that 

Thanks a lot for this info, so if find one without code on bottom could be a fake right?

Everyone I’ve seen has a code, without that there’s no way to verify it with the Estate. It may not be in exactly the same position but should be on the back somewhere. There are loads of fake Estate stamps out there. 

[shaneray]

As some of you may have seen, I’ve been selling art to fund this! It’s been an since the beginning. Finally happy to secure one.

[Someone Like You]

Top is a beauty!!

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[seabasss]

Hello. Are you still looking for Warhol cows? I have few.
I am editing my post because I was sure tthati am writing reply to one of you guys. 
Anyway... I have a cow wallpaper, very good condition. Some singles, some double and this that you seeing here. I would like to sell it but I received different estimates over few months so if one of you can help me out I would appreciate.  Thanks


I have also singles. 

[LJCal]

Sept 22, 2023 16:08:09 GMT 1 seabasss said:

Hello. Are you still looking for Warhol cows? I have few.
I am editing my post because I was sure tthati am writing reply to one of you guys. 
Anyway... I have a cow wallpaper, very good condition. Some singles, some double and this that you seeing here. I would like to sell it but I received different estimates over few months so if one of you can help me out I would appreciate.  Thanks


I have also singles. 

I’m sorry but these are fakes, I’ve seen plenty of the 1989 Cows from MOMA and these are bad reproductions. Anyone who wishes to do a comparison here is one which has provenance from the collection of a former interview magazine employee:


This was one sold a Phillips last year 


Buyer beware.

[seabasss]

I know that these were used in Art Institute of Chicago few years ago, were printed for Andy Warhol show at the museum. So still fakes?

[LJCal]

Sept 22, 2023 18:17:24 GMT 1 seabasss said:

I know that these were used in Art Institute of Chicago few years ago, were printed for Andy Warhol show at the museum. So still fakes?

I’m sure you probably know the answer but given that in the margin of the ones you posted it says Museum of Modern Art 1989-1990 (albeit it’s barely legible), not Art Institute of Chicago 2019-2020 I think that’s all the clues you need. 

[Someone Like You]

Sept 22, 2023 18:17:24 GMT 1 seabasss said:

I know that these were used in Art Institute of Chicago few years ago, were printed for Andy Warhol show at the museum. So still fakes?

Do you ship from Italy? 

[seabasss]

Thank you for your professional evaluation and expertise. I am still wondering if there is any value for this. Well... I have also something like this. What do you think about this? Last picture shows separate piece.  Previous one is without stamp. 

[LJCal]

Sept 23, 2023 3:53:36 GMT 1 seabasss said:

Thank you for your professional evaluation and expertise. I am still wondering if there is any value for this. Well... I have also something like this. What do you think about this? Last picture shows separate piece.  Previous one is without stamp. 

A for effort but an F for execution 

[seabasss]

I do not really know what you mean by that. Other pieces that I posted are something else. So when you saying execution I don't know what you implying. Could you be more clear about it? Thanks

[LJCal]

Sept 23, 2023 14:34:36 GMT 1 seabasss said:

I do not really know what you mean by that. Other pieces that I posted are something else. So when you saying execution I don't know what you implying. Could you be more clear about it? Thanks

They are again obviously fake and when someone turns up with a new account offering to sell fake works more often than not they're fully aware of the fact and trying to defraud people. If you're simply naive I apologise, but either way you need to fix up before offering these type of works for sale.

[seabasss]

I am not trying to defraud people. For a most part I am here to find out what I have , if there is any value for it. But did you consider that last piece with typed information might be coming straight from shop (trade) that installed that wallpaper? Just a question.

[LJCal]

Sept 23, 2023 15:08:58 GMT 1 seabasss said:

I am not trying to defraud people. For a most part I am here to find out what I have , if there is any value for it. But did you consider that last piece with typed information might be coming straight from shop (trade) that installed that wallpaper? Just a question.

I've posted pictures of authentic pieces, a brief comparison will show that every picture you have posted is inconsistent and therefore fake. They are purely decorative and therefore worth very little 

[jeeves]

A couple of decent results on unsigned Cows recently

Philips Sep 22nd - Yellow @ $12,490
Bonhams Oct 3rd - Light blue @ $14,080

[Daniel Silk]

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