Andy Warhol 🇺🇸 Real or Fake? • Sunday B. Morning Print

[johnerotten]

Warhol car crashes sales barrier

A new record was set for work by Andy Warhol when a painting of a car crash sold for $71.7m (£36.3m) in New York.
The 1963 painting, Green Car Crash (Green Burning Car I), depicts an overturned car on fire.

It easily beat the previous auction record for work by the pop art pioneer, set last November when a painting of Chairman Mao sold for $17.4m (£8.8m).

The sale, at Christie's, was part of the second most-lucrative art auction ever, earning a total of $385m (£195m).

Final figures beat Christie's most optimistic expectations by some $80m, while only four of 78 works on offer failed to sell.

The market wasn't just hungry, it was ravenous
Christie's chairman, Christopher Burge
Records were broken by more than half of the 50 artists represented, including British artist Damien Hirst, Jasper Johns, Gerhard Richter and Donald Judd.
Another Warhol painting, Lemon Marilyn, fetched $28m (£14m).

Featuring the avant garde artist's seminal subject, actress Marilyn Monroe, it had remained in the same hands since the year of its creation.

"It was one of the most remarkable sales I've ever seen," said Christie's honorary chairman Christopher Burge, who also served as auctioneer.

"The market wasn't just hungry, it was ravenous."


However, none of the works on sale managed to match the $72.84 million fetched by a Mark Rothko at Sotheby's on Tuesday night, which shattered the record for post-war art at auction.
Prices have been pushed up by the expanding art market, with buyers from Asia, Russia and the Middle East mixing with traditional collectors.

According to Christie's, 18% of buyers at last night's sale were from Asia, nearly matching the 19% who hailed from Europe.

"This boom has been going on for three or four years and its getting stronger and stronger," says Daniel Morris of Corfield Morris - an independent company advising art and antique collectors.

"These things are now becoming status symbols for the uber-wealthy.

"They used to have other assets - race horses or Porsches - but now you have to have a Damien Hirst on the wall."

'Individual scenario'

Individual buyers make up a large part of the market, with hedge fund billionaire Steven A Cohen and Las Vegas magnate Steve Wynn - who accidentally put his elbow through a Picasso last year - among the leading clients.

With records continuing to be broken, collectors are feeling encouraged to put works up for sale, which in turn drives prices higher.

But, warned Christie's, not every piece is guaranteed to break records.

"The Lemon Marilyn, which sold for $28m, was from the first series of Marilyn Monroe pictures Andy Warhol did, " said a Christie's spokesperson.

"That fact, plus the knowledge that it had a single owner and was bought directly from Warhol's first New York one-man show for $250 - all made it more desirable."

"There are individual scenarios for each individual piece of art."


RECENT RECORDS IN MODERN ART
Artist Title Price achieved Previous record
Mark Rothko White Center (Yellow, Pink and Lavender on Rose) £36.8m £11.3m
Andy Warhol Green Car Crash (Green Burning Car I) £36.3m £8.8m
Francis Bacon Innocent X £26.5m £14m
Jean-Michel Basquiat Untitled £7.4m £2.8m
Damien Hirst Lullaby Water £3.7m £1.7m
Willem de Kooning Untitled XXV £13.6m £10.5m


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Published: 2007/05/17 12:30:54 GMT

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[daz205]

does anyone have a value on one of these with a signature and provience or even have one for sale?

[rockhopper]

I'd like to buy a copy of Warhols Marilyn print, but i'm not sure where to start or what to look for, i wondered if someone here might help.
I've established that the original portfolio of 10 colourways, edition of 250 was pubished in America around 1967, these i am pretty sure are out of my price range
However there was a European editon, published in the 1970's by Sunday B Morning. These prints used the original screens from 1967 edition, but were disowned by Warhol
It is one of these Sunday B Morning editons that i would like to buy, but i am unsure how to prove the print genuine.
Can anyone here offer help, advice or point me in the relavant direction
Thanks

[sausageboonwee]

Speak to Mike at Liebermann Gallery.

www.liebermangallery.com/index.php?id_page=9&id_artist=33

They are £275 from him. Sounds pretty cheap to me.

I should be on commission.

[mickg]

Loads on ebay as well - just search for Sunday B Morning. You're better off with Mike, but there might be some different colourways out there.

[policeaware]

Be careful on the Sunday B morning prints, they are still being produced now in europe.

[Imoy-San]

The Sunday B Morning prints are a pain in the arse!

As PA says "Be careful"

Also check out Steve Kaufman - he produced the originals with Warhol - he was his assistant.

Good luck

Y

[jB]

rockhopper...send an email to susan [e-mail]. Authentic prints @ I believe 275 USD...I personally like #26, its silver metallic background, with blue marilyn and pink lips...looks amazing in person. Hope that helps

[sjh]

The series (1967) that were numbered were the signed ones. These would cost you £50,000+. There are three editions of this print. The 1967 series (all these were signed), the 1970's series (these were not numbered but some were believed to have been signed, most were not. This series has a black stamp) and the 1980's series (these were not numbered and had a blue stamp). All three series were produced by the same printers - Sunday B.Morning.

I've attached a number of websites who are selling these as well as some further info. I'm sure you'll do your own homework but thought it might help.

www.birdfineart.com/g_sunday_01.html

www.sundaybmorning.com/history.html - Good info on the history of these prints by the original printers.

www.brandler-galleries.com/shop/prod/169/andy-warhol.html - UK site selling the same prints and some info


I have 3 colourways for sale with COA from the gallery I bought them from.

The website for further info is www.gallart.com

They are based in Miami. You can see they sell original and signed Warhol's as well as a number of other famous Pop Artists.

The photos of the prints on the websites really don't capture the quality and vibrancy of the colours.

[rockhopper]

Thanks for the input, i'm begining to realise this is a mine field!
Can anyone tell me how to be sure a Sunday B Morning is acutally from the 1970's and not a more recent print
Thanks

[sjh]

I believe Opus Art have the black stamped 1970's versions. c.£1000 though.

[rockhopper]

sjh, the links for brander galleries and gallart dont seem to be working
Thanks

[gbh]

brander looks screwy for me also, gallart works fine though

maybe try to view is through a proxy?

www.hidemyass.com/

[sjh]

Sorry about that. I've checked just Googling Brandler and none of the links are working. Not sure why. The Gallart one works but you need to manually search for Warhol pages. They seem to be selling the prints seperately for $500.

The colorways I have I'd accept £200 for and have a COA from Gallart. Anyone interested feel free to e-mail. If you live in London I would hand deliver.

[gbh]

Hi sjh, great prints you have for sale there. I possibly could be interested.

How come two of them are 300 quid and one is 150? aren't they all the ame (diff colourways though)

Would love to get a hold of either of these two colourways:

www.sundaybmorning.com/images/marilyn23.jpg

www.sundaybmorning.com/images/marilyn31.jpg

[taco]

bargin original signed warhol screenprints on ebay for £299....item 130129783933, yeah right!

[sjh]

Just a quick note to say that I've reduced the price of the Warhol prints I have and am selling. Need a quick sale to purchase another print I have my eye on. These are being sold on the Bay or you can PM if anyone is interested.

[gbh]

hey SJH, can you send me some pics of the damaged colourway please?

judd at globalskunkworks.com

[petedoherty]

anyone have any idea where new prints or andys are released?

[mcnuts]

petedoherty said:

anyone have any idea where new prints or andys are released?

i think andy will be at the show in covent garden releasing his new print. i think Laz is doing a press conference to announce andy coming on board. could just be speculation though. andy has had his time anyway, it's hutch's turn.

[stuey09]

mcnuts said:

petedoherty said:

anyone have any idea where new prints or andys are released?

i think andy will be at the show in covent garden releasing his new print. i think Laz is doing a press conference to announce andy coming on board...

He's hosting it in collusion with a new Dead Heroes release by Insect.

[corblimeylimey]

mcnuts said:

petedoherty said:

anyone have any idea where new prints or andys are released?

i think andy will be at the show in covent garden releasing his new print. i think Laz is doing a press conference to announce andy coming on board. could just be speculation though. andy has had his time anyway, it's hutch's turn.

;D ;D ;D ;D

[BONGO]

BONGO THINK SBM VERY BIG

[rob123rob]

Sorry to bring this up again, as I know there have been threads in the past regarding this, but can someone please explain, again, the differences in the Warhol Marilyn Sunday B. Morning prints? From what I've gathered there was an edition from the 70s and one from the 80s, some of which were signed "not by me" which was probably really by Warhol.....Im so confused. Are the ones from the 70s the best ones, and how can you tell, blah blah...if anyone is bored and has some good info, please help out....thanks..rob

[moonstomp]

I'm also looking to buy a Sunday B. Morning print from birdfineart.com but have read on here before that "you have to be careful when buying Sunday B. Morning prints" although I'm not sure why? Therefore any advice/do's and don'ts would be much appreciated.

[paulah]

I'm sure someone will post a link - there are a lot of sites with this info too.

In the meantime I will just say - the 80's blue ones are significantly cheaper on ebay if you widen your search to Europe. Mine came from Germany. They are lovely prints and far brighter colours than you can see on screen - day-glo pink etc. They are also very big!

[sjh]

The series (1967) that were numbered were the signed ones. These would cost you £50,000+. There are three editions of this print. The 1967 series (all these were signed), the 1970's series (these were not numbered but some were believed to have been signed, most were not. This series has a black stamp) and the 1980's series (these were not numbered and had a blue stamp). All three series were produced by the same printers - Sunday B.Morning.


I have 2 colourways for sale with COA from the gallery I bought them from on e-Bay at the moment.

The website for further info is www.gallart.com

They are based in Miami. You can see they sell original and signed Warhol's as well as a number of other famous Pop Artists.

The photos of the prints on the websites really don't capture the quality and vibrancy of the colours.

[Strange Al]

SJH - I think it's worth adding that there is much conjencture about whether any of the 1970s and 1980s Marilyn prints, which were published by Sunday B Morning, were actually authorised by Warhol or his representatives.

Rumour has it that Warhol donated the screens from the original 1960s Marilyn run (i.e., the official print run, which now sells for tens of thousands) to Sunday B Morning and they used these to make the prints. Some of these prints were allegedly signed by Warhol "This is not by me. Andy Warhol". From my research, whether these rumours are true and that the prints were in fact authorised has not been confirmed.

If you're going to consider buying a Sunday B Morning version, it's worth remembering it may just be an expensive backdoor print (albeit an old one). Alternatively, it could be the cheapest Warhol you're ever likely to get. Make up your own mind.

Rob - I know that may not be too much help, but given the apparent factual situation I think is about all anyone can really say.

It may be worth emailing the Warhol Foundation and getting their side of the story. That said, the reputation of the Warhol Foundation in these matters is far from perfect.

If anyone knows or finds out any more, please add to this thread.

[sjh]

Agreed. Wouldn't argue with any of that. With that said they are great prints and make quite an impact.

[stylus]

I bought one of the '80s ones from Germany, and as Paulah says - they're great. Very vibrant and very big!