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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by daisy on Aug 15, 2008 19:11:15 GMT 1, Just think how much they'll be worth when he's dead!
Just think how much they'll be worth when he's dead!
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Deleted on Aug 15, 2008 19:14:26 GMT 1, Just think how much they'll be worth when he's dead!
Lieberman?.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by pfffffffffft on Aug 15, 2008 19:54:16 GMT 1, There was a series two of soup cans, which are not sunday b morning prints. They still cost quite a bit though.
Yes, those are the ones you can grab for 5K. They werent sunday b reissues, they were just a second run.
There was a series two of soup cans, which are not sunday b morning prints. They still cost quite a bit though. Yes, those are the ones you can grab for 5K. They werent sunday b reissues, they were just a second run. |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Michael Jacob on Aug 15, 2008 20:02:08 GMT 1, Ive dealt with georgetown frame shoppe. Super nice guy. I bought a Chagall print of the bay. I sent it to him, and he confirmed it was fake.
Ive dealt with georgetown frame shoppe. Super nice guy. I bought a Chagall print of the bay. I sent it to him, and he confirmed it was fake.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by njr911 on Aug 16, 2008 19:42:42 GMT 1, Anyone got a Flowers Sunday B Morning they want to sell ?
Anyone got a Flowers Sunday B Morning they want to sell ?
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Pattycakes on Aug 18, 2008 7:48:58 GMT 1, I am sorry but Warhol did not do a second run of Marilyns, that is just utter crap. The first run of Sunday B's have a black rubber stamp on the back rather than a blue one, but that is basically the only difference. There is no second edition and if someone tells you there is they are lying.
If you are genuinely interested in buying a Warhol then buy the print catalogue raisonne which is by Feldman/Schellmann it's the only resource to use when purchasing a print, and should be your first point of call. It's important to have all of the information before you make a purchase - especially with Warhol as there are so many fakes about. The book knoly costs about Β£60, better to spend that than making a 5k error!
I am sorry but Warhol did not do a second run of Marilyns, that is just utter crap. The first run of Sunday B's have a black rubber stamp on the back rather than a blue one, but that is basically the only difference. There is no second edition and if someone tells you there is they are lying.
If you are genuinely interested in buying a Warhol then buy the print catalogue raisonne which is by Feldman/Schellmann it's the only resource to use when purchasing a print, and should be your first point of call. It's important to have all of the information before you make a purchase - especially with Warhol as there are so many fakes about. The book knoly costs about Β£60, better to spend that than making a 5k error!
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Pattycakes on Aug 18, 2008 7:56:55 GMT 1, You are also rather confused about the soup cans, there are two sets of 10 cans, Campbell's Soup I and Campbell's Soup II, but they are 20 completely different prints. Both sets were printed in a edition of 250, there were no re-prints.
Again like Marilyn there has been a Sunday B Morning set, though as far as I am aware they have not copied all of the prints yet, certainly on the second set anyway.
You are also rather confused about the soup cans, there are two sets of 10 cans, Campbell's Soup I and Campbell's Soup II, but they are 20 completely different prints. Both sets were printed in a edition of 250, there were no re-prints.
Again like Marilyn there has been a Sunday B Morning set, though as far as I am aware they have not copied all of the prints yet, certainly on the second set anyway.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by dealersam on Aug 18, 2008 14:42:56 GMT 1, i know art republic have had the b morning warhols in the past. I have been tempted but everytime my money just seems to go elsewhere. From memory (we are going back a bit now) they had marilyns & flowers...
hope that helps.
oh & i know a genuine b morning warhol will have a stamp on back of print where you can sign your own name (all part of the fun!)
i know art republic have had the b morning warhols in the past. I have been tempted but everytime my money just seems to go elsewhere. From memory (we are going back a bit now) they had marilyns & flowers...
hope that helps.
oh & i know a genuine b morning warhol will have a stamp on back of print where you can sign your own name (all part of the fun!)
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Happy Shopper on Aug 18, 2008 15:29:59 GMT 1, I think these can be bought direct very cheaply. I looked into it a while ago.
I believe the first edition of Sunday B Morning prints (The ones printguru mentioned with a black stamp on the back) were commissioned by Warhol for a European show, but later he changed his mind and the show was canceled and the prints never acknowledged as "Official". I think that's right !!?
Google it!
I think these can be bought direct very cheaply. I looked into it a while ago.
I believe the first edition of Sunday B Morning prints (The ones printguru mentioned with a black stamp on the back) were commissioned by Warhol for a European show, but later he changed his mind and the show was canceled and the prints never acknowledged as "Official". I think that's right !!?
Google it!
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by pfffffffffft on Aug 18, 2008 15:44:17 GMT 1, I am sorry but Warhol did not do a second run of Marilyns, that is just utter crap. The first run of Sunday B's have a black rubber stamp on the back rather than a blue one, but that is basically the only difference. There is no second edition and if someone tells you there is they are lying. If you are genuinely interested in buying a Warhol then buy the print catalogue raisonne which is by Feldman/Schellmann it's the only resource to use when purchasing a print, and should be your first point of call. It's important to have all of the information before you make a purchase - especially with Warhol as there are so many fakes about. The book knoly costs about Β£60, better to spend that than making a 5k error!
Um, no one said warhol did a second run of marilyns unless I missed something. it was said there was a second run of soups, if memory serves tomato I believe. first run between 1964-1966, second run in 1978...the 1978 run usually costs around less than the sixties run. you may be correct but I thought the 1978 run of at least tomato was the same as the first run.
and I agree, use the catalog and I would suggest buying from a reputable dealer or auction house.
I am sorry but Warhol did not do a second run of Marilyns, that is just utter crap. The first run of Sunday B's have a black rubber stamp on the back rather than a blue one, but that is basically the only difference. There is no second edition and if someone tells you there is they are lying. If you are genuinely interested in buying a Warhol then buy the print catalogue raisonne which is by Feldman/Schellmann it's the only resource to use when purchasing a print, and should be your first point of call. It's important to have all of the information before you make a purchase - especially with Warhol as there are so many fakes about. The book knoly costs about Β£60, better to spend that than making a 5k error! Um, no one said warhol did a second run of marilyns unless I missed something. it was said there was a second run of soups, if memory serves tomato I believe. first run between 1964-1966, second run in 1978...the 1978 run usually costs around less than the sixties run. you may be correct but I thought the 1978 run of at least tomato was the same as the first run. and I agree, use the catalog and I would suggest buying from a reputable dealer or auction house. |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Pattycakes on Aug 18, 2008 16:17:29 GMT 1, No there was no second run of Tomato soup. He used the image on the shopping bags in 66, other than that there are a few private project works that were done mostly with the reversal series - these are worth huge money though over Β£20k because they are unique.
No there was no second run of Tomato soup. He used the image on the shopping bags in 66, other than that there are a few private project works that were done mostly with the reversal series - these are worth huge money though over Β£20k because they are unique.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by edcase on Oct 7, 2008 12:50:40 GMT 1, Looks interesting, going to check it out on saturday.
Anyone going?
Looks interesting, going to check it out on saturday.
Anyone going?
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by Pattycakes on Oct 7, 2008 13:22:33 GMT 1, i went to the preview last night, a really interesting show, nicely curated. I was particualrly pleased to see so much Warhol Wallpaper used, you don't see it in that many shows and it really gave the rooms the proper feel.
i went to the preview last night, a really interesting show, nicely curated. I was particualrly pleased to see so much Warhol Wallpaper used, you don't see it in that many shows and it really gave the rooms the proper feel.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by achtungbono on Mar 4, 2009 14:16:24 GMT 1, So then - I havent looked into this for a while, buit fancy revisting it agian with a view to widening the collection / possibly moving a few banksys to make way
Anyone got a rough idea of price range for the swathe of 250 digned edition cans ? I know that some are more desirible than others and attract a premium - but what are we looking at ?
also - anyone know of decent galleries that sell the real deal with excellent prov and wont try to bend me over the table as they do it ?
cjeers
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So then - I havent looked into this for a while, buit fancy revisting it agian with a view to widening the collection / possibly moving a few banksys to make way
Anyone got a rough idea of price range for the swathe of 250 digned edition cans ? I know that some are more desirible than others and attract a premium - but what are we looking at ?
also - anyone know of decent galleries that sell the real deal with excellent prov and wont try to bend me over the table as they do it ?
cjeers
a[pols for speeling
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by cashman on Mar 4, 2009 14:49:27 GMT 1,
I see where insect got the inspiration for the cow prints now
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by chrisps303 on Mar 4, 2009 14:55:06 GMT 1, I see where insect got the inspiration for the cow prints now
Just thinking the same, infact you can see where a lot of artists have gotten inspiration.
I see where insect got the inspiration for the cow prints now Just thinking the same, infact you can see where a lot of artists have gotten inspiration. |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by lobster on Mar 4, 2009 14:55:11 GMT 1, Hi -
If you mean the Warhol soup cans editions I looked into these when I bought my Warhol a year or so ago
Also PLEASE bear in mind I am no expert and I am sure their are other members on here that can add / correct me.
Basically Warhol created an initial series (around 1968 ?) of 10 soups which were some of the varieties available at the time - this is now referred to as "Soup 1" - then as it proved so popular he then created another 10 varieties now known as "Soup2" (innovative mind at work !!!) They are all editions of 250 and also contained (from memory) 26AP in each edition.
Soup 1 tend to be more desiarable as they are considered very much the original series and also contains "Tomato" which is by FAR both the most desiarable / expensive simply because it was what Warhol apparently ate most days when he was younger and is also one of the most popular foods in America - this print is as much as 3 times the cost of any of the others and you are probably looking around $50K even in this market.Second most desirable is probably "Chicken Noodle" and from their its just personal preference.
I am well out of touch on prices but I would ahve thought you are looking at SOMEWHERE around Β£15K + for a decent soup 1 series and maybe Β£10K plus for a soup 2 - one thing with Warhols is the condition can vary greatly.
I ended up buying a print form the "Myths" series and still have some contacts so if you PM me I will forward them.
Hope this helps
Hi -
If you mean the Warhol soup cans editions I looked into these when I bought my Warhol a year or so ago
Also PLEASE bear in mind I am no expert and I am sure their are other members on here that can add / correct me.
Basically Warhol created an initial series (around 1968 ?) of 10 soups which were some of the varieties available at the time - this is now referred to as "Soup 1" - then as it proved so popular he then created another 10 varieties now known as "Soup2" (innovative mind at work !!!) They are all editions of 250 and also contained (from memory) 26AP in each edition.
Soup 1 tend to be more desiarable as they are considered very much the original series and also contains "Tomato" which is by FAR both the most desiarable / expensive simply because it was what Warhol apparently ate most days when he was younger and is also one of the most popular foods in America - this print is as much as 3 times the cost of any of the others and you are probably looking around $50K even in this market.Second most desirable is probably "Chicken Noodle" and from their its just personal preference.
I am well out of touch on prices but I would ahve thought you are looking at SOMEWHERE around Β£15K + for a decent soup 1 series and maybe Β£10K plus for a soup 2 - one thing with Warhols is the condition can vary greatly.
I ended up buying a print form the "Myths" series and still have some contacts so if you PM me I will forward them.
Hope this helps
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by sashaz on Mar 4, 2009 15:01:46 GMT 1, I see where insect got the inspiration for the cow prints now Just thinking the same, infact you can see where a lot of artists have gotten inspiration.
so much of art is inspired by other peoples ideas, its great. ALso I feel that the relationship to prints we have nowadays would not be as such if it wasnt for warhol and the other pop artists.
I see where insect got the inspiration for the cow prints now Just thinking the same, infact you can see where a lot of artists have gotten inspiration. so much of art is inspired by other peoples ideas, its great. ALso I feel that the relationship to prints we have nowadays would not be as such if it wasnt for warhol and the other pop artists. |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by cashman on Mar 4, 2009 15:07:49 GMT 1, Just thinking the same, infact you can see where a lot of artists have gotten inspiration. so much of art is inspired by other peoples ideas, its great. ALso I feel that the relationship to prints we have nowadays would not be as such if it wasnt for warhol and the other pop artists.
was more an observation than a critisism 
Just thinking the same, infact you can see where a lot of artists have gotten inspiration. so much of art is inspired by other peoples ideas, its great. ALso I feel that the relationship to prints we have nowadays would not be as such if it wasnt for warhol and the other pop artists. was more an observation than a critisism |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on Mar 4, 2009 17:09:32 GMT 1, The 5000 soup cans (20 different soups) done in 2 series (2500 each) measuring the same size one year apart used to range in price on average $12k to 30k at auction. Double those at retail. They are in every single Christie's and Sotheby's print auctions and are anything but rare. Tomato carries the biggest premium. If I were a buyer, I would not pay more than $8k (US) for a signed Warhol soup can in this market. Many of the soup cans have been getting bought in at auction lately so it's a buyers market. The estimate ranges have been $12-15k with no luck. I'd poke around the usual suspects for prices but suspect you are far better off sourcing this image at auction then retail. This may be of some interest:
polskyartlog.blogspot.com/
The 5000 soup cans (20 different soups) done in 2 series (2500 each) measuring the same size one year apart used to range in price on average $12k to 30k at auction. Double those at retail. They are in every single Christie's and Sotheby's print auctions and are anything but rare. Tomato carries the biggest premium. If I were a buyer, I would not pay more than $8k (US) for a signed Warhol soup can in this market. Many of the soup cans have been getting bought in at auction lately so it's a buyers market. The estimate ranges have been $12-15k with no luck. I'd poke around the usual suspects for prices but suspect you are far better off sourcing this image at auction then retail. This may be of some interest: polskyartlog.blogspot.com/ |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by cashman on Mar 4, 2009 17:32:04 GMT 1, The 5000 soup cans (20 different soups) done in 2 series (2500 each) measuring the same size one year apart used to range in price on average $12k to 30k at auction. Double those at retail. They are in every single Christie's and Sotheby's print auctions and are anything but rare. Tomato carries the biggest premium. If I were a buyer, I would not pay more than $8k (US) for a signed Warhol soup can in this market. Many of the soup cans have been getting bought in at auction lately so it's a buyers market. The estimate ranges have been $12-15k with no luck. I'd poke around the usual suspects for prices but suspect you are far better off sourcing this image at auction then retail. This may be of some interest: polskyartlog.blogspot.com/
great blog +1
The 5000 soup cans (20 different soups) done in 2 series (2500 each) measuring the same size one year apart used to range in price on average $12k to 30k at auction. Double those at retail. They are in every single Christie's and Sotheby's print auctions and are anything but rare. Tomato carries the biggest premium. If I were a buyer, I would not pay more than $8k (US) for a signed Warhol soup can in this market. Many of the soup cans have been getting bought in at auction lately so it's a buyers market. The estimate ranges have been $12-15k with no luck. I'd poke around the usual suspects for prices but suspect you are far better off sourcing this image at auction then retail. This may be of some interest: polskyartlog.blogspot.com/great blog +1 |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by sashaz on Mar 4, 2009 18:16:20 GMT 1, Cheers will get properly reading now work is over.
Cheers will get properly reading now work is over.
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by sashaz on Mar 4, 2009 18:31:19 GMT 1, so much of art is inspired by other peoples ideas, its great. ALso I feel that the relationship to prints we have nowadays would not be as such if it wasnt for warhol and the other pop artists. was more an observation than a critisism
Sorry dude I didnt mean it to sound like i was respoding to a critisism. I was just speaking about the general art world.
By the way more than the soup can I would like to get the panda print but thats too expensive for me.
so much of art is inspired by other peoples ideas, its great. ALso I feel that the relationship to prints we have nowadays would not be as such if it wasnt for warhol and the other pop artists. was more an observation than a critisism Sorry dude I didnt mean it to sound like i was respoding to a critisism. I was just speaking about the general art world. By the way more than the soup can I would like to get the panda print but thats too expensive for me. |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by achtungbono on Mar 5, 2009 13:07:21 GMT 1, stone groove
tks for advice
( when the next decent 20thC art auction ? )
stone groove
tks for advice
( when the next decent 20thC art auction ? )
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by rrrich on Mar 5, 2009 15:41:38 GMT 1, it may be worth getting in touch with the amuti gallery too. they have had a number of warhol's over the past few months (marilyns tho, not soup cans). i guess like the folks above, if youre looking for someone to source one, they may be able to help.
www.amutionline.com/acatalog/Andy_Warhol.html
it may be worth getting in touch with the amuti gallery too. they have had a number of warhol's over the past few months (marilyns tho, not soup cans). i guess like the folks above, if youre looking for someone to source one, they may be able to help. www.amutionline.com/acatalog/Andy_Warhol.html |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by maadbeats on Mar 5, 2009 16:03:54 GMT 1, great read lee3. thanks for posting
great read lee3. thanks for posting
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by njr911 on Mar 5, 2009 16:05:09 GMT 1, The 5000 soup cans (20 different soups) done in 2 series (2500 each) measuring the same size one year apart used to range in price on average $12k to 30k at auction. Double those at retail. They are in every single Christie's and Sotheby's print auctions and are anything but rare. Tomato carries the biggest premium. If I were a buyer, I would not pay more than $8k (US) for a signed Warhol soup can in this market. Many of the soup cans have been getting bought in at auction lately so it's a buyers market. The estimate ranges have been $12-15k with no luck. I'd poke around the usual suspects for prices but suspect you are far better off sourcing this image at auction then retail. This may be of some interest: polskyartlog.blogspot.com/great blog +1
I put his Warhol book on my Amazon Wish List last week in the hope I get it for my birthday..is it worth a read ?
The 5000 soup cans (20 different soups) done in 2 series (2500 each) measuring the same size one year apart used to range in price on average $12k to 30k at auction. Double those at retail. They are in every single Christie's and Sotheby's print auctions and are anything but rare. Tomato carries the biggest premium. If I were a buyer, I would not pay more than $8k (US) for a signed Warhol soup can in this market. Many of the soup cans have been getting bought in at auction lately so it's a buyers market. The estimate ranges have been $12-15k with no luck. I'd poke around the usual suspects for prices but suspect you are far better off sourcing this image at auction then retail. This may be of some interest: polskyartlog.blogspot.com/great blog +1 I put his Warhol book on my Amazon Wish List last week in the hope I get it for my birthday..is it worth a read ? |
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Andy Warhol πΊπΈ Real or Fake? β’ Sunday B. Morning Print, by lee3 on Mar 5, 2009 17:36:27 GMT 1, >>>I put his Warhol book on my Amazon Wish List last week in the hope I get it for my birthday..is it worth a read ? <<<
It's a hilarious read on the interdealings in the art market including some wonderful stories and jaw dropping prices as he's been dealing Warhol since the late 70s. It's very easy reading and a lot of fun too. I'm anxious to get a read on the new book (i sold Andy Warhol...too soon) as Richard told me there is a story in there about my wife and I. He's mentioned the new book will have some stories about collectors who have been at it for 40 years and collectors like us who have been at it for merely 10. Obviously, those of us in the latter category have never lived through an art correction until this past October so I believe this one will touch on the euphoria of the market but believe it was finished prior to the October crash. I can say without hesitation that Richard knows the Warhol (and the rest of the contemporary market) extremely well and he has taught us much over the years and we've sourced a number of Warhol's with his aid. If anyone is looking to source a specific image, it may be worth it to drop him a line and get his thoughts and see if he can help. He's gotten more for my money with that artist that anyone though I've never used him for prints ( obviously many do). Still, worth a shot nonetheless. I should add I have no incentive whatsoever but he's a good guy.
>>>I put his Warhol book on my Amazon Wish List last week in the hope I get it for my birthday..is it worth a read ? <<<
It's a hilarious read on the interdealings in the art market including some wonderful stories and jaw dropping prices as he's been dealing Warhol since the late 70s. It's very easy reading and a lot of fun too. I'm anxious to get a read on the new book (i sold Andy Warhol...too soon) as Richard told me there is a story in there about my wife and I. He's mentioned the new book will have some stories about collectors who have been at it for 40 years and collectors like us who have been at it for merely 10. Obviously, those of us in the latter category have never lived through an art correction until this past October so I believe this one will touch on the euphoria of the market but believe it was finished prior to the October crash. I can say without hesitation that Richard knows the Warhol (and the rest of the contemporary market) extremely well and he has taught us much over the years and we've sourced a number of Warhol's with his aid. If anyone is looking to source a specific image, it may be worth it to drop him a line and get his thoughts and see if he can help. He's gotten more for my money with that artist that anyone though I've never used him for prints ( obviously many do). Still, worth a shot nonetheless. I should add I have no incentive whatsoever but he's a good guy.
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