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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Jules Leotard on Feb 23, 2023 2:43:11 GMT 1, Banksy is not a collective and neither a woman
Banksy is not a collective and neither a woman I don't feel that this assessment is accurate. Banksy is an individual, a group, and now, an entire movement - as it should be. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by The Greased Piglet on Feb 23, 2023 2:43:53 GMT 1, So we are comparing Banksy to Jimmy Saville now, this is going great. Well I need to be somewhere... It's already stated that Banksy is a collective. If you know better and can prove Banksy is indeed one person, then prove the allegations of fraud wrong. You can't be certain of anything if you don't know who Banksy is. I actually never made the comparison, I only responded to your charity excuse. But interesting how you perceived it that way.
So we are comparing Banksy to Jimmy Saville now, this is going great. Well I need to be somewhere... It's already stated that Banksy is a collective. If you know better and can prove Banksy is indeed one person, then prove the allegations of fraud wrong. You can't be certain of anything if you don't know who Banksy is. I actually never made the comparison, I only responded to your charity excuse. But interesting how you perceived it that way. mate, get a hobby and let go of the resentment you'll sleep better and lower your risk of colon cancer. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Jules Leotard on Feb 23, 2023 2:43:57 GMT 1, He is married with at least one kid.
He is married with at least one kid. I thought he was divorced. Did he get married again? |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by LJCal on Feb 23, 2023 2:58:04 GMT 1, my two cents, with the exception of one or two lots these results are very much in line with where the market is, given that Forum are willing to do deals on fees it may well be that even though works could have sold for more at one of the big boys the seller may be no worse/better off. A few results exceeded my expectations and I know people always say this but a few prints had serious condition issues, so I would look at the reports before drawing too many conclusions.
Everyone whinging about Forum tanking the Banksy market, I hate to break it to you but they're not in business to protect the value of your assets by restricting supply, if sellers want to sell and as long as there is one buyer out there willing to bid then the market will find a way of making things happen, in other words even if Forum slowed down someone else would step in to fill the void. The fact is when the market was hot, the sales couldn't come fast enough for most people now complaining, everyone felt great about themselves when the value of their print went up Β£10k every other week when a new auction record was set. So sorry guys that was the time to sell, blaming one auction house for the state of his market is foolish and just sour grapes, it was just another asset bubble like many that have gone before and it won't be the last.
my two cents, with the exception of one or two lots these results are very much in line with where the market is, given that Forum are willing to do deals on fees it may well be that even though works could have sold for more at one of the big boys the seller may be no worse/better off. A few results exceeded my expectations and I know people always say this but a few prints had serious condition issues, so I would look at the reports before drawing too many conclusions.
Everyone whinging about Forum tanking the Banksy market, I hate to break it to you but they're not in business to protect the value of your assets by restricting supply, if sellers want to sell and as long as there is one buyer out there willing to bid then the market will find a way of making things happen, in other words even if Forum slowed down someone else would step in to fill the void. The fact is when the market was hot, the sales couldn't come fast enough for most people now complaining, everyone felt great about themselves when the value of their print went up Β£10k every other week when a new auction record was set. So sorry guys that was the time to sell, blaming one auction house for the state of his market is foolish and just sour grapes, it was just another asset bubble like many that have gone before and it won't be the last.
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Jules Leotard on Feb 23, 2023 3:22:15 GMT 1, It does make more sense if it is a collective i suppose. So is the original Banksy still anything to do with it?. Yes.
How much work do you think one person can do???
It does make more sense if it is a collective i suppose. So is the original Banksy still anything to do with it?. Yes.
How much work do you think one person can do???
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Jules Leotard on Feb 23, 2023 4:04:08 GMT 1, my two cents, with the exception of one or two lots these results are very much in line with where the market is, given that Forum are willing to do deals on fees it may well be that even though works could have sold for more at one of the big boys the seller may be no worse/better off. A few results exceeded my expectations and I know people always say this but a few prints had serious condition issues, so I would look at the reports before drawing too many conclusions. Everyone whinging about Forum tanking the Banksy market, I hate to break it to you but they're not in business to protect the value of your assets by restricting supply, if sellers want to sell and as long as there is one buyer out there willing to bid then the market will find a way of making things happen, in other words even if Forum slowed down someone else would step in to fill the void. The fact is when the market was hot, the sales couldn't come fast enough for most people now complaining, everyone felt great about themselves when the value of their print went up Β£10k every other week when a new auction record was set. So sorry guys that was the time to sell, blaming one auction house for the state of his market is foolish and just sour grapes, it was just another asset bubble like many that have gone before and it won't be the last.
my two cents, with the exception of one or two lots these results are very much in line with where the market is, given that Forum are willing to do deals on fees it may well be that even though works could have sold for more at one of the big boys the seller may be no worse/better off. A few results exceeded my expectations and I know people always say this but a few prints had serious condition issues, so I would look at the reports before drawing too many conclusions. Everyone whinging about Forum tanking the Banksy market, I hate to break it to you but they're not in business to protect the value of your assets by restricting supply, if sellers want to sell and as long as there is one buyer out there willing to bid then the market will find a way of making things happen, in other words even if Forum slowed down someone else would step in to fill the void. The fact is when the market was hot, the sales couldn't come fast enough for most people now complaining, everyone felt great about themselves when the value of their print went up Β£10k every other week when a new auction record was set. So sorry guys that was the time to sell, blaming one auction house for the state of his market is foolish and just sour grapes, it was just another asset bubble like many that have gone before and it won't be the last. I couldn't agree more with this post. I love (and hate that I love so much) Banksy. Markets go up. Markets go down. The nimble make a great profit from this (don't worry, I am not including myself in that group - I am not nimble). Auctions are usually a great reference point. Some get overheated and prices get silly (during good times) and some get silly in the other direction (in bad times), Once a swing in either direction gets started, it becomes dangerous calling a top or a bottom. At the end of a day, all these are is ink/ paint applied to a piece of paper. I would think all of us would be optimistic. If you don't own a Banksy, they are getting within reach. If you do own a Banksy (or twenty) and have some cash on the side, back up the truck. Opportunity is here. Either way, buy what you love and don't be doing it to make money. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by cemltz on Feb 23, 2023 4:46:47 GMT 1, It's already stated that Banksy is a collective. If you know better and can prove Banksy is indeed one person, then prove the allegations of fraud wrong. You can't be certain of anything if you don't know who Banksy is.
Think about this. Go back, and read it slowly. Think. About. This.
Summary of basic argument: it has been βstatedβ that something is true, and since you cannot disprove it, it is true. Since you donβt know who Banksy is you cannot argue against me. So I am right. Despite my not knowing who Banksy is either.
This is the Internet in 2023.
It's already stated that Banksy is a collective. If you know better and can prove Banksy is indeed one person, then prove the allegations of fraud wrong. You can't be certain of anything if you don't know who Banksy is. Think about this. Go back, and read it slowly. Think. About. This. Summary of basic argument: it has been βstatedβ that something is true, and since you cannot disprove it, it is true. Since you donβt know who Banksy is you cannot argue against me. So I am right. Despite my not knowing who Banksy is either. This is the Internet in 2023. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by cemltz on Feb 23, 2023 4:48:03 GMT 1, Anyone blaming Forum for Banksy prices is ignoring a lot of what is going on in the art market right now.
Anyone blaming Forum for Banksy prices is ignoring a lot of what is going on in the art market right now.
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by The Italian One on Feb 23, 2023 9:29:18 GMT 1, isn't this a perfect time for Banksy's collector to add some new pieces?
every one blaming on prices, but very few of us are taking the risk to keep buying...
BTW hands off to Banksy, he is the GOAT!!!
no matter if he is men or woman white asian or black a collective or single person, no matter if he is gay etero bisexual or married and have child.
No matter how he manage the sales of his art or how much PC need to answer or to issue a COA !!
don't need/want to know nothing about his private life neither I can't care less of who Banksy is..
let's just hope he doesn't stop making art and give the shake humanity need every now and then.
isn't this a perfect time for Banksy's collector to add some new pieces?
every one blaming on prices, but very few of us are taking the risk to keep buying...
BTW hands off to Banksy, he is the GOAT!!!
no matter if he is men or woman white asian or black a collective or single person, no matter if he is gay etero bisexual or married and have child.
No matter how he manage the sales of his art or how much PC need to answer or to issue a COA !!
don't need/want to know nothing about his private life neither I can't care less of who Banksy is..
let's just hope he doesn't stop making art and give the shake humanity need every now and then.
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by china man on Feb 23, 2023 10:57:12 GMT 1, Surely people will stop consigning their work with forum if they are not achieving good money, Or is that the way Banksy prices are going?
Surely people will stop consigning their work with forum if they are not achieving good money, Or is that the way Banksy prices are going?
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Judgement day on Feb 23, 2023 11:20:35 GMT 1, buyers market at the moment, will Banksy prices pick up again to pre Covid levels?
buyers market at the moment, will Banksy prices pick up again to pre Covid levels?
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by The Italian One on Feb 23, 2023 11:26:59 GMT 1, i once read that to be considered a blue chip artist it needs to fall and rise 3 times....
not sure this is the first time Banksy prices fall (if ever)
i once read that to be considered a blue chip artist it needs to fall and rise 3 times....
not sure this is the first time Banksy prices fall (if ever)
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Wanchope on Feb 23, 2023 11:47:02 GMT 1, Surely people will stop consigning their work with forum if they are not achieving good money, Or is that the way Banksy prices are going?
Surely people will stop consigning their work with forum if they are not achieving good money, Or is that the way Banksy prices are going? Itβs not just Forum as some will lead you to believe. All price levels are down and forum offer theirs via artsy before the auction which I think is the biggest platform to advertise artwork so the marketβs eyes are seeing BANKSY offerings, but are choosing to go for other artists at the price levels. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by bernardsmate on Feb 23, 2023 13:51:40 GMT 1, It does make more sense if it is a collective i suppose. So is the original Banksy still anything to do with it?. Yes.
How much work do you think one person can do???
It does make more sense if it is a collective i suppose. So is the original Banksy still anything to do with it?. Yes.
How much work do you think one person can do???
Thank you for clarifying. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by JFCC on Feb 23, 2023 15:39:58 GMT 1, Lots of very sage words, with which I totally agree. I have always said the market is depressed and has gone in to a serious decline, which ultimately will reverse, as history has shows us time and time again. My point though is Forum should have adapted more and evolved. Unfortunately for everyone, they are trotting out the same tired format time and time again. There were no bidders at the auction this week!
As art professionals and business people Forum should be mixing up their catalogues to have broader appeal, to target new parts of the market and bring bidders in. 15 pieces by the same artist, every month, does not entice new customers. All the big auction houses have evolved already! Businesses need to evolve or die, I hope Forum do evolve as I like them a lot and have bought many, many works from them!!
Finally I totally agree if you are βcash richβ and believe in the artist as an investment buy now, I haveβ¦certainly Forum has been the place to buy!!
Lots of very sage words, with which I totally agree. I have always said the market is depressed and has gone in to a serious decline, which ultimately will reverse, as history has shows us time and time again. My point though is Forum should have adapted more and evolved. Unfortunately for everyone, they are trotting out the same tired format time and time again. There were no bidders at the auction this week!
As art professionals and business people Forum should be mixing up their catalogues to have broader appeal, to target new parts of the market and bring bidders in. 15 pieces by the same artist, every month, does not entice new customers. All the big auction houses have evolved already! Businesses need to evolve or die, I hope Forum do evolve as I like them a lot and have bought many, many works from them!!
Finally I totally agree if you are βcash richβ and believe in the artist as an investment buy now, I haveβ¦certainly Forum has been the place to buy!!
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by ubl on Feb 23, 2023 15:42:44 GMT 1, It does make more sense if it is a collective i suppose. So is the original Banksy still anything to do with it?. Yes.
How much work do you think one person can do???
Look at Damien Hirst, he has a whole team behind it. Don't think he painted a single currency original, but its still a Damien Hirst. I would argue that most of Banksy's work is quite distinctive, and most people on this forum would be able to recognise a new work on the street as a Banksy. This would be harder if it were a collective, everyone would have a slightly different style. Not to say he wouldn't have a team, and would have had help and collaborated with many other artists.
It does make more sense if it is a collective i suppose. So is the original Banksy still anything to do with it?. Yes.
How much work do you think one person can do???
Look at Damien Hirst, he has a whole team behind it. Don't think he painted a single currency original, but its still a Damien Hirst. I would argue that most of Banksy's work is quite distinctive, and most people on this forum would be able to recognise a new work on the street as a Banksy. This would be harder if it were a collective, everyone would have a slightly different style. Not to say he wouldn't have a team, and would have had help and collaborated with many other artists. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by stuckeyc on Feb 23, 2023 15:49:00 GMT 1, Well we could talk about the painted elephant in the room in that the Banksy market has been way over valued for years (and still are imo). I suspect invader who saw prices skyrocket when banksy became unobtainable won't be far behind. I am waiting to pounce. Full disclosure I own works by both and didn't sell during what I think was the peak because I live them too damn much
Well we could talk about the painted elephant in the room in that the Banksy market has been way over valued for years (and still are imo). I suspect invader who saw prices skyrocket when banksy became unobtainable won't be far behind. I am waiting to pounce. Full disclosure I own works by both and didn't sell during what I think was the peak because I live them too damn much
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Blue on Feb 23, 2023 18:55:48 GMT 1, Well we could talk about the painted elephant in the room in that the Banksy market has been way over valued for years (and still are imo). I suspect invader who saw prices skyrocket when banksy became unobtainable won't be far behind. I am waiting to pounce. Full disclosure I own works by both and didn't sell during what I think was the peak because I live them too damn much
Well we could talk about the painted elephant in the room in that the Banksy market has been way over valued for years (and still are imo). I suspect invader who saw prices skyrocket when banksy became unobtainable won't be far behind. I am waiting to pounce. Full disclosure I own works by both and didn't sell during what I think was the peak because I live them too damn much Trying very hard to keep my powder dry, be patient and recognise a half decent time to buy |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by brookvale on Feb 23, 2023 20:53:29 GMT 1, Who would be stupid enough to sell a banksy print through forum auctions
Who would be stupid enough to sell a banksy print through forum auctions
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by LJCal on Feb 23, 2023 22:17:32 GMT 1, Lots of very sage words, with which I totally agree. I have always said the market is depressed and has gone in to a serious decline, which ultimately will reverse, as history has shows us time and time again. My point though is Forum should have adapted more and evolved. Unfortunately for everyone, they are trotting out the same tired format time and time again. There were no bidders at the auction this week! As art professionals and business people Forum should be mixing up their catalogues to have broader appeal, to target new parts of the market and bring bidders in. 15 pieces by the same artist, every month, does not entice new customers. All the big auction houses have evolved already! Businesses need to evolve or die, I hope Forum do evolve as I like them a lot and have bought many, many works from them!! Finally I totally agree if you are βcash richβ and believe in the artist as an investment buy now, I haveβ¦certainly Forum has been the place to buy!!
Lots of very sage words, with which I totally agree. I have always said the market is depressed and has gone in to a serious decline, which ultimately will reverse, as history has shows us time and time again. My point though is Forum should have adapted more and evolved. Unfortunately for everyone, they are trotting out the same tired format time and time again. There were no bidders at the auction this week! As art professionals and business people Forum should be mixing up their catalogues to have broader appeal, to target new parts of the market and bring bidders in. 15 pieces by the same artist, every month, does not entice new customers. All the big auction houses have evolved already! Businesses need to evolve or die, I hope Forum do evolve as I like them a lot and have bought many, many works from them!! Finally I totally agree if you are βcash richβ and believe in the artist as an investment buy now, I haveβ¦certainly Forum has been the place to buy!! Yeah I'd agree they need to find ways to freshen things up. To be fair their main prints sale this month is pretty good for a small independent auction house and has some decent lots. Maybe they should start trying to broker more private sales as well rather than having the same unsigned prints come up again and again. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by jaws2000 on Feb 24, 2023 11:14:06 GMT 1,
The same people who think this is signed by Stik being sold at forum
The same people who think this is signed by Stik being sold at forum |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by LJCal on Feb 26, 2023 15:07:24 GMT 1, The same people who think this is signed by Stik being sold at forum
The same people who think this is signed by Stik being sold at forum Respectfully do you have proof that it wasnβt? Do you know how these pieces were signed by him and can you show me two authenticated ones where the signatures are the same? |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by artforartssake on Mar 26, 2023 16:02:22 GMT 1, This Tuesday. Will the flight from banks lead to a resurgent interest in Banksy??
This Tuesday. Will the flight from banks lead to a resurgent interest in Banksy??
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by drbf on Mar 26, 2023 18:12:28 GMT 1, This Tuesday. Will the flight from banks lead to a resurgent interest in Banksy??
This Tuesday. Will the flight from banks lead to a resurgent interest in Banksy?? I think it may lead to a resurgence in all collectables! |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by .dappy on Mar 26, 2023 18:54:59 GMT 1,
... quite a few banksy prints coming up in the Tate Ward auction as well ... wed 29th ...
... quite a few banksy prints coming up in the Tate Ward auction as well ... wed 29th ...
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by apprint on Mar 26, 2023 18:58:36 GMT 1, buyers market at the moment, will Banksy prices pick up again to pre Covid levels?
I think still long way to drop, about another 20/30%
Main problems is PC, they donβt sort COA and peoples donβt have confidence on buying banksy works.
PC have choose to only issued a COA when works going to auction like this they
will get the ARR.
when PC is managed by low solicitor thinking than this is the best way for the artist is a very big mistakeβ¦
banksy need to suck all the PC workers and start from new.
buyers market at the moment, will Banksy prices pick up again to pre Covid levels? Is not going to happened any time soon! I think still long way to drop, about another 20/30% Main problems is PC, they donβt sort COA and peoples donβt have confidence on buying banksy works. PC have choose to only issued a COA when works going to auction like this they will get the ARR. when PC is managed by low solicitor thinking than this is the best way for the artist is a very big mistakeβ¦ banksy need to suck all the PC workers and start from new. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Richy Rich on Mar 26, 2023 19:10:50 GMT 1, buyers market at the moment, will Banksy prices pick up again to pre Covid levels? Is not going to happened any time soon! I think still long way to drop, about another 20/30% Main problems is PC, they donβt sort COA and peoples donβt have confidence on buying banksy works. PC have choose to only issued a COA when works going to auction like this they will get the ARR. when PC is managed by low solicitor thinking than this is the best way for the artist is a very big mistakeβ¦ banksy need to suck all the PC workers and start from new.
buyers market at the moment, will Banksy prices pick up again to pre Covid levels? Is not going to happened any time soon! I think still long way to drop, about another 20/30% Main problems is PC, they donβt sort COA and peoples donβt have confidence on buying banksy works. PC have choose to only issued a COA when works going to auction like this they will get the ARR. when PC is managed by low solicitor thinking than this is the best way for the artist is a very big mistakeβ¦ banksy need to suck all the PC workers and start from new. Heβs going to have a really sore jaw in the morning.. |
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Georgie Poppit on Mar 26, 2023 19:31:13 GMT 1, The low estimate on that pink CYW is just a waste of everyoneβs time.
The low estimate on that pink CYW is just a waste of everyoneβs time.
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Forum Auctions, Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Georgie Poppit on Mar 28, 2023 15:43:43 GMT 1, Results?
Results?
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