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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by schlomo on Sept 14, 2009 11:57:08 GMT 1, Mutant i wasn't gonna join in as figured it would sound like sour grapes (even tho i wasn't that into this colourway that much....), but i was interested in this line in your order receipt.....
Date / Time: 9/9/2009 1:57:38 PM
I find that time very interesting, as the print was released at roughly 16.50 uk time, Icono are in LA right, time difference 8 hours. I just dont see how an order receipt from 1.57 pm can work?? maybe i am also being cynical, but just thought that was a little odd.......
Mutant i wasn't gonna join in as figured it would sound like sour grapes (even tho i wasn't that into this colourway that much....), but i was interested in this line in your order receipt.....
Date / Time: 9/9/2009 1:57:38 PM
I find that time very interesting, as the print was released at roughly 16.50 uk time, Icono are in LA right, time difference 8 hours. I just dont see how an order receipt from 1.57 pm can work?? maybe i am also being cynical, but just thought that was a little odd.......
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by rosstierney on Sept 14, 2009 12:11:33 GMT 1, it was released at roughly 18:53 schlo
it was released at roughly 18:53 schlo
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by schlomo on Sept 14, 2009 12:22:17 GMT 1, Ah, apologies, although i still don't see how the time difference would make 1.57 in LA.... again i'm sure i'm being cynical and there is a perfectly reasonable....reason.....
Ah, apologies, although i still don't see how the time difference would make 1.57 in LA.... again i'm sure i'm being cynical and there is a perfectly reasonable....reason.....
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by rosstierney on Sept 14, 2009 12:34:27 GMT 1, how do you know mutant's in la? sounds more like he's experiencing eastern daylight time to me, new york etc. & is probably sleeping as we speak 
how do you know mutant's in la? sounds more like he's experiencing eastern daylight time to me, new york etc. & is probably sleeping as we speak |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by schlomo on Sept 14, 2009 12:43:20 GMT 1, yes you're probably right mate, Mutant i apologise.
yes you're probably right mate, Mutant i apologise.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by mutant on Sept 14, 2009 15:27:12 GMT 1, Cheers, Schlomo. I am in the eastern standard time and was out of commission during your conversation 
I understand where you are coming from. Purchasing works from popular artists can be frustrating. I resorted to buying prints on the secondary market numerous times because they were soldout instantly. Buying on the secondary market does not always mean you have to pay more. If you are patient, you can certainly pick up some lovely works at a very reasonable price. In any case, best of luck.
Cheers, Schlomo. I am in the eastern standard time and was out of commission during your conversation I understand where you are coming from. Purchasing works from popular artists can be frustrating. I resorted to buying prints on the secondary market numerous times because they were soldout instantly. Buying on the secondary market does not always mean you have to pay more. If you are patient, you can certainly pick up some lovely works at a very reasonable price. In any case, best of luck. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by achtungbono on Sept 15, 2009 9:45:31 GMT 1, well....
seems that a third party had got hold of my card detials & a shopping spree has ensured . the same card that I used to get a Can on Iconoclast.maybe a coincidence... The IC Transaction is cancelled. I dont want to deal with an outfit that leaves itself open to such fraud. I dont care about the money- thats the banks problem/ their card & systems - but the hassle involved in cancelling everything and getting new cards issued has left a rather bad taste in my mouth.
I rarely use this card - its for art purchases on the whole, so the amount of busnesses who have access to my detials are very limited
no more Iconoclast.
well....
seems that a third party had got hold of my card detials & a shopping spree has ensured . the same card that I used to get a Can on Iconoclast.maybe a coincidence... The IC Transaction is cancelled. I dont want to deal with an outfit that leaves itself open to such fraud. I dont care about the money- thats the banks problem/ their card & systems - but the hassle involved in cancelling everything and getting new cards issued has left a rather bad taste in my mouth.
I rarely use this card - its for art purchases on the whole, so the amount of busnesses who have access to my detials are very limited
no more Iconoclast.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by schlomo on Sept 15, 2009 9:47:46 GMT 1, Sorry to hear that man, hopefully just a coincidence, but even so not something you want happening. Hope all gets resolved matey.
Sorry to hear that man, hopefully just a coincidence, but even so not something you want happening. Hope all gets resolved matey.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by darrenrapley on Sept 15, 2009 9:50:41 GMT 1, Sorry to hear that Achtungbono. Right pain in the arse
Sorry to hear that Achtungbono. Right pain in the arse
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by achtungbono on Sept 15, 2009 9:55:38 GMT 1, yeah I know. Maybe not their fault but the site payment system doesnt seem secure.
Ive just tried again - for a laugh - and my McAfee AV has blocked it as a potemtial fraud addy.
watch your cards kids.
yeah I know. Maybe not their fault but the site payment system doesnt seem secure.
Ive just tried again - for a laugh - and my McAfee AV has blocked it as a potemtial fraud addy.
watch your cards kids.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by nex on Sept 15, 2009 10:10:44 GMT 1, i would suggest anyone purchasing from iconclast contacts them and then pays via paypal (I did this with the last can)
i would suggest anyone purchasing from iconclast contacts them and then pays via paypal (I did this with the last can)
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by njr911 on Sept 15, 2009 10:15:54 GMT 1, well.... seems that a third party had got hold of my card detials & a shopping spree has ensured . the same card that I used to get a Can on Iconoclast.maybe a coincidence... The IC Transaction is cancelled. I dont want to deal with an outfit that leaves itself open to such fraud. I dont care about the money- thats the banks problem/ their card & systems - but the hassle involved in cancelling everything and getting new cards issued has left a rather bad taste in my mouth. I rarely use this card - its for art purchases on the whole, so the amount of busnesses who have access to my detials are very limited no more Iconoclast.
I'm sure it was mentioned on thegiant.org that this happened with Soup Can 1 too ??!!
well.... seems that a third party had got hold of my card detials & a shopping spree has ensured . the same card that I used to get a Can on Iconoclast.maybe a coincidence... The IC Transaction is cancelled. I dont want to deal with an outfit that leaves itself open to such fraud. I dont care about the money- thats the banks problem/ their card & systems - but the hassle involved in cancelling everything and getting new cards issued has left a rather bad taste in my mouth. I rarely use this card - its for art purchases on the whole, so the amount of busnesses who have access to my detials are very limited no more Iconoclast. I'm sure it was mentioned on thegiant.org that this happened with Soup Can 1 too ??!! |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by achtungbono on Sept 15, 2009 10:23:42 GMT 1, In the cold light of day, having been hit for USD 750, even though I literally had the password input and print in the basket within 10 seconds of it coming up, I have serious doubts to the whole setup. Maybe this was a ryanair style offer - i.e. Seats advetised at 1p, but when you come to book, the one and only 1p seat has gone and all you are left with are £50 alternatives.
Too much greed for me
In the cold light of day, having been hit for USD 750, even though I literally had the password input and print in the basket within 10 seconds of it coming up, I have serious doubts to the whole setup. Maybe this was a ryanair style offer - i.e. Seats advetised at 1p, but when you come to book, the one and only 1p seat has gone and all you are left with are £50 alternatives.
Too much greed for me
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by curiousgeorge on Sept 15, 2009 13:25:51 GMT 1, i would suggest anyone purchasing from iconclast contacts them and then pays via paypal (I did this with the last can)
Did they ask you to pay the paypal fee's too??
i would suggest anyone purchasing from iconclast contacts them and then pays via paypal (I did this with the last can) Did they ask you to pay the paypal fee's too?? |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by nex on Sept 15, 2009 13:29:17 GMT 1, nope
nope
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by iconoclastedt on Sept 15, 2009 18:24:49 GMT 1, Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie. We have not, and do not, have any incidents of anything of this sort. This is complete mistruth. Period. Our site is secure and certified as such. We have transactions occur every day on the site without incident of this sort, no exceptions.
There is also a lot of conjecture circulating about how our site works, etc. We will issue a statement soon explaining in excruciating detail how the cart and checkout process works, our model, pricing structure etc.
In the meantime, as always, we encourage anyone with any questions or concerns to either email us at info@iconoclasteditions.com or call us at 513.792.9744 and we would be more than happy to help you in any way and answer any questions you may have.
Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie. We have not, and do not, have any incidents of anything of this sort. This is complete mistruth. Period. Our site is secure and certified as such. We have transactions occur every day on the site without incident of this sort, no exceptions.
There is also a lot of conjecture circulating about how our site works, etc. We will issue a statement soon explaining in excruciating detail how the cart and checkout process works, our model, pricing structure etc.
In the meantime, as always, we encourage anyone with any questions or concerns to either email us at info@iconoclasteditions.com or call us at 513.792.9744 and we would be more than happy to help you in any way and answer any questions you may have.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by snausages on Sept 15, 2009 18:41:23 GMT 1, I did notice that at some point between the time Soup Can III was released and today your site now conforms to https: secure protocol. But without a single doubt in my mind your cart was operating WITHOUT secure protocol on September 9th. I checked several times that day because I was so amazed that it was NOT secure.
I did notice that at some point between the time Soup Can III was released and today your site now conforms to https: secure protocol. But without a single doubt in my mind your cart was operating WITHOUT secure protocol on September 9th. I checked several times that day because I was so amazed that it was NOT secure.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by rosstierney on Sept 15, 2009 18:56:56 GMT 1, is it possible that only some people were not protected? maybe browser incompatibility? i checked & double checked on the 9th with firefox & it had the same security as it does now. i'm still bummed about the release mind.
is it possible that only some people were not protected? maybe browser incompatibility? i checked & double checked on the 9th with firefox & it had the same security as it does now. i'm still bummed about the release mind.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by Francis on Sept 15, 2009 19:02:36 GMT 1, Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie.
So the blokes here and the 50 or so geezers on thegiant that claimed to have their credit card info stolen over the past couple of years have all have gotten together to lie and conspire against your company for no good reason? Shame on them.
Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie. So the blokes here and the 50 or so geezers on thegiant that claimed to have their credit card info stolen over the past couple of years have all have gotten together to lie and conspire against your company for no good reason? Shame on them. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by Karl Read on Sept 15, 2009 19:10:32 GMT 1, Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie. So the blokes here and the 50 or so geezers on thegiant that claimed to have their credit card info stolen over the past couple of years have all have gotten together to lie and conspire against your company for no good reason? Shame on them.
Also a few guys on the giant are claiming the same recently too.
Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie. So the blokes here and the 50 or so geezers on thegiant that claimed to have their credit card info stolen over the past couple of years have all have gotten together to lie and conspire against your company for no good reason? Shame on them. Also a few guys on the giant are claiming the same recently too. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by snausages on Sept 15, 2009 19:28:13 GMT 1, is it possible that only some people were not protected? maybe browser incompatibility? i checked & double checked on the 9th with firefox & it had the same security as it does now. i'm still bummed about the release mind.
It was unsecure in both firefox and safari. I imagine they've waited a week to say anything as it allowed them time to fix the issue and cover their tracks. Noticed it was fixed several days ago.
is it possible that only some people were not protected? maybe browser incompatibility? i checked & double checked on the 9th with firefox & it had the same security as it does now. i'm still bummed about the release mind. It was unsecure in both firefox and safari. I imagine they've waited a week to say anything as it allowed them time to fix the issue and cover their tracks. Noticed it was fixed several days ago. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by achtungbono on Sept 15, 2009 21:06:43 GMT 1, Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie. We have not, and do not, have any incidents of anything of this sort. This is complete mistruth. Period. Our site is secure and certified as such. We have transactions occur every day on the site without incident of this sort, no exceptions. There is also a lot of conjecture circulating about how our site works, etc. We will issue a statement soon explaining in excruciating detail how the cart and checkout process works, our model, pricing structure etc. In the meantime, as always, we encourage anyone with any questions or concerns to either email us at info@iconoclasteditions.com or call us at 513.792.9744 and we would be more than happy to help you in any way and answer any questions you may have.
too little , too late
Maybe you had better get onto McAfee - they block the site on my browser-:
There is a problem with this website's security certificate.
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Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie. We have not, and do not, have any incidents of anything of this sort. This is complete mistruth. Period. Our site is secure and certified as such. We have transactions occur every day on the site without incident of this sort, no exceptions. There is also a lot of conjecture circulating about how our site works, etc. We will issue a statement soon explaining in excruciating detail how the cart and checkout process works, our model, pricing structure etc. In the meantime, as always, we encourage anyone with any questions or concerns to either email us at info@iconoclasteditions.com or call us at 513.792.9744 and we would be more than happy to help you in any way and answer any questions you may have. too little , too late Maybe you had better get onto McAfee - they block the site on my browser-: There is a problem with this website's security certificate. The security certificate presented by this website was issued for a different website's address. Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you send to the server. We recommend that you close this webpage and do not continue to this website. Click here to close this webpage. Continue to this website (not recommended). More information If you arrived at this page by clicking a link, check the website address in the address bar to be sure that it is the address you were expecting. When going to a website with an address such as example.com, try adding the 'www' to the address, www.example.com. If you choose to ignore this error and continue, do not enter private information into the website. For more information, see "Certificate Errors" in Internet Explorer Help. " |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by danmuppet on Sept 15, 2009 21:13:23 GMT 1, as far as to say if we have and questions to contact you- last time i did that mr strike told me to "STOP WASTING MY TIME"!! and that is the truth, no doubt! explain that scum bag!
as far as to say if we have and questions to contact you- last time i did that mr strike told me to "STOP WASTING MY TIME"!! and that is the truth, no doubt! explain that scum bag!
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by achtungbono on Sept 15, 2009 21:23:11 GMT 1, Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie. So the blokes here and the 50 or so geezers on thegiant that claimed to have their credit card info stolen over the past couple of years have all have gotten together to lie and conspire against your company for no good reason? Shame on them.
I cannot say with 100% accuracy that the IC site was the source of the fraud, but this card is used rarely , as I mentioned. MY bank have killed the card , not me.Then again, if we want to get into a tortological vortex, then anyone suggesting that a site is utterly and totally secure is incorrect - nothing is 100% safe, even with the best will in the world
On a personal level & this is opinion only , before ambulance chasers are called in - I dislike the curt arrogance of the robust IC text & the inference that any comment or anecdote relayed is a de facto mistruth, maybe thats just me of course, but as a consumer, I have some choice in how I spend my money.or not.
make your own decisions kids.
Iconoclast Statement: Any and all claims of any sort of lack of security, credit card fraud, or anything of this nature is a complete and absolute lie. So the blokes here and the 50 or so geezers on thegiant that claimed to have their credit card info stolen over the past couple of years have all have gotten together to lie and conspire against your company for no good reason? Shame on them. I cannot say with 100% accuracy that the IC site was the source of the fraud, but this card is used rarely , as I mentioned. MY bank have killed the card , not me.Then again, if we want to get into a tortological vortex, then anyone suggesting that a site is utterly and totally secure is incorrect - nothing is 100% safe, even with the best will in the world On a personal level & this is opinion only , before ambulance chasers are called in - I dislike the curt arrogance of the robust IC text & the inference that any comment or anecdote relayed is a de facto mistruth, maybe thats just me of course, but as a consumer, I have some choice in how I spend my money.or not. make your own decisions kids. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by iconoclastedt on Sept 23, 2009 20:43:53 GMT 1, Achtungbono’s claim of credit card misuse is completely and utterly false. This is a customer who we are familiar with and who has purchased from us multiple times over a period of several years, without incident both on our site, and direct via phone/email. His Soup Can purchases were not even made over our site. He took our pre-sale offer of completing his set of all 4 Soup Cans from this past May and completed his set of Soup Cans then. His order was taken by our staff over the phone. He did not even purchase SCIII OR SCII on our site! We repeat, he did not purchase SCII or III individually at all, only a full set over the phone. Needless to say, we will not be doing business with this person at any point in the future. There are absolutely no security issues with our site, nor were there at the time of the SCIII release. The site is, and was, completely secure using up to date registered security certificates. Once again, as we’ve stated many times, we have customers ordering off our site on a daily basis without incident, no exceptions. Having said that, we certainly would encourage anyone who believes they have a legitimate concern regarding anything, to contact us directly and we will help you in every possible way. And, as always, if you’d prefer to contact us with any questions or place an order directly, you can always reach us via email [info@iconoclasteditions.com] or phone [513.792.9744]. We also deal with our customers via email and phone as well, on a daily basis. Thank you.
Achtungbono’s claim of credit card misuse is completely and utterly false. This is a customer who we are familiar with and who has purchased from us multiple times over a period of several years, without incident both on our site, and direct via phone/email. His Soup Can purchases were not even made over our site. He took our pre-sale offer of completing his set of all 4 Soup Cans from this past May and completed his set of Soup Cans then. His order was taken by our staff over the phone. He did not even purchase SCIII OR SCII on our site! We repeat, he did not purchase SCII or III individually at all, only a full set over the phone. Needless to say, we will not be doing business with this person at any point in the future. There are absolutely no security issues with our site, nor were there at the time of the SCIII release. The site is, and was, completely secure using up to date registered security certificates. Once again, as we’ve stated many times, we have customers ordering off our site on a daily basis without incident, no exceptions. Having said that, we certainly would encourage anyone who believes they have a legitimate concern regarding anything, to contact us directly and we will help you in every possible way. And, as always, if you’d prefer to contact us with any questions or place an order directly, you can always reach us via email [info@iconoclasteditions.com] or phone [513.792.9744]. We also deal with our customers via email and phone as well, on a daily basis. Thank you.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by olivier on Sept 23, 2009 20:57:26 GMT 1, Achtungbono’s claim of credit card misuse is completely and utterly false. This is a customer who we are familiar with and who has purchased from us multiple times over a period of several years, without incident both on our site, and direct via phone/email. His Soup Can purchases were not even made over our site. He took our pre-sale offer of completing his set of all 4 Soup Cans from this past May and completed his set of Soup Cans then. His order was taken by our staff over the phone. He did not even purchase SCIII OR SCII on our site! We repeat, he did not purchase SCII or III individually at all, only a full set over the phone. Needless to say, we will not be doing business with this person at any point in the future. There are absolutely no security issues with our site, nor were there at the time of the SCIII release. The site is, and was, completely secure using up to date registered security certificates. Once again, as we’ve stated many times, we have customers ordering off our site on a daily basis without incident, no exceptions. Having said that, we certainly would encourage anyone who believes they have a legitimate concern regarding anything, to contact us directly and we will help you in every possible way. And, as always, if you’d prefer to contact us with any questions or place an order directly, you can always reach us via email [info@iconoclasteditions.com] or phone [513.792.9744]. We also deal with our customers via email and phone as well, on a daily basis. Thank you.
posting the details of any customer's purchase history without their permission is unprofessional and probably a violation of your own privacy policy:
"PRIVACY:
Iconoclast respects our customers' account information as private and confidential information. This information will never be shared with any outside affiliations or individuals."
Achtungbono’s claim of credit card misuse is completely and utterly false. This is a customer who we are familiar with and who has purchased from us multiple times over a period of several years, without incident both on our site, and direct via phone/email. His Soup Can purchases were not even made over our site. He took our pre-sale offer of completing his set of all 4 Soup Cans from this past May and completed his set of Soup Cans then. His order was taken by our staff over the phone. He did not even purchase SCIII OR SCII on our site! We repeat, he did not purchase SCII or III individually at all, only a full set over the phone. Needless to say, we will not be doing business with this person at any point in the future. There are absolutely no security issues with our site, nor were there at the time of the SCIII release. The site is, and was, completely secure using up to date registered security certificates. Once again, as we’ve stated many times, we have customers ordering off our site on a daily basis without incident, no exceptions. Having said that, we certainly would encourage anyone who believes they have a legitimate concern regarding anything, to contact us directly and we will help you in every possible way. And, as always, if you’d prefer to contact us with any questions or place an order directly, you can always reach us via email [info@iconoclasteditions.com] or phone [513.792.9744]. We also deal with our customers via email and phone as well, on a daily basis. Thank you. posting the details of any customer's purchase history without their permission is unprofessional and probably a violation of your own privacy policy: "PRIVACY: Iconoclast respects our customers' account information as private and confidential information. This information will never be shared with any outside affiliations or individuals." |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by danmuppet on Sept 23, 2009 21:02:16 GMT 1, another lovely message- doing your customer relations no end of good!
another lovely message- doing your customer relations no end of good!
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by Winter on Sept 23, 2009 21:10:57 GMT 1, They have taken quite a bashing so I would say it is fair to hear their side. Personally I prefer to hear both sides before making judgments.
They have taken quite a bashing so I would say it is fair to hear their side. Personally I prefer to hear both sides before making judgments.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by olivier on Sept 23, 2009 21:19:45 GMT 1, They have taken quite a bashing so I would say it is fair to hear their side. Personally I prefer to hear both sides before making judgments.
hearing both sides is sooooo antiquated.
snap judgments and lynch mobs is where it's at!
They have taken quite a bashing so I would say it is fair to hear their side. Personally I prefer to hear both sides before making judgments. hearing both sides is sooooo antiquated. snap judgments and lynch mobs is where it's at! |
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