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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by dh on Sept 9, 2009 20:48:03 GMT 1, Absolute con! I put one in my basket at $750 then the checkout changed to $950 so I opened up another window and checked the site which was still reading $750, and don't get me started on the shipping!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolute con! I put one in my basket at $750 then the checkout changed to $950 so I opened up another window and checked the site which was still reading $750, and don't get me started on the shipping!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by moleman on Sept 9, 2009 20:54:43 GMT 1, bloody hell dave thats a bit saucey
bloody hell dave thats a bit saucey
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by rosstierney on Sept 9, 2009 20:55:06 GMT 1, In fairness most of the people moaning are only doing so because they lost out on a good flip. I've yet to see a single framed pic of Soup Can II
re: framing, some have framing queues & some are/were gunning for the set
it's not a very good flip either. if icono weren't buying up all secondary market prints, i don't think people would have to pay over $600, meaning a little profit for some & a loss for others.
if you weren't so quick to judge, i'd copy your s&s frame job 
In fairness most of the people moaning are only doing so because they lost out on a good flip. I've yet to see a single framed pic of Soup Can II re: framing, some have framing queues & some are/were gunning for the set it's not a very good flip either. if icono weren't buying up all secondary market prints, i don't think people would have to pay over $600, meaning a little profit for some & a loss for others. if you weren't so quick to judge, i'd copy your s&s frame job |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by leephill on Sept 9, 2009 21:04:46 GMT 1,
So after all the shenanigans....has anyone actually bought one?
This is easily the best print out of the four......love the West Ham background too.....
So after all the shenanigans....has anyone actually bought one?
This is easily the best print out of the four......love the West Ham background too.....
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by pezlow on Sept 9, 2009 21:05:20 GMT 1, True ross but inevitably the majority of people trying to buy at $250 were looking to flip. I'm not judging them, its an expensive business this art collecting and I understand why people flip. But let's be honest about.
True ross but inevitably the majority of people trying to buy at $250 were looking to flip. I'm not judging them, its an expensive business this art collecting and I understand why people flip. But let's be honest about.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by mutant on Sept 9, 2009 21:09:26 GMT 1, I purchased one and I will have it sitting next to my Soup Can II on the wall. I really like all four colorways. Hopefully I can score IV with a reasonable price.
I purchased one and I will have it sitting next to my Soup Can II on the wall. I really like all four colorways. Hopefully I can score IV with a reasonable price.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by rosstierney on Sept 9, 2009 21:46:10 GMT 1, i'll stop going on soon, i just want to record everything in this thread for future reference
there are people kicking their teeth after paying $900 for fear it will go up even more, only for the cart system to calm down, leaving the price @ $750
there are also rumours about payment security
i can only speak for myself, the pages were/are secure for me
judging by twitter, i think incono are about to post their pricing structure on facebook...
i'll stop going on soon, i just want to record everything in this thread for future reference
there are people kicking their teeth after paying $900 for fear it will go up even more, only for the cart system to calm down, leaving the price @ $750
there are also rumours about payment security
i can only speak for myself, the pages were/are secure for me
judging by twitter, i think incono are about to post their pricing structure on facebook...
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by Rsyok on Sept 9, 2009 21:47:42 GMT 1, Seems like I made the best choice and went to the beach, surfed till sunset.
Feel your pain Ross, I've wasted countless hours checking their *cking Tw*tter over the months.
Seems like I made the best choice and went to the beach, surfed till sunset.
Feel your pain Ross, I've wasted countless hours checking their *cking Tw*tter over the months.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by curiousgeorge on Sept 9, 2009 21:53:43 GMT 1, Tell Shep
obeygiant.com/contact
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by bullet on Sept 9, 2009 21:54:13 GMT 1, I purchased one and I will have it sitting next to my Soup Can II on the wall. I really like all four colorways. Hopefully I can score IV with a reasonable price.
good luck with your credit card details,i would say you have a pretty good chance of them being stolen
I purchased one and I will have it sitting next to my Soup Can II on the wall. I really like all four colorways. Hopefully I can score IV with a reasonable price. good luck with your credit card details,i would say you have a pretty good chance of them being stolen |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by monkeyballs on Sept 9, 2009 22:03:12 GMT 1, A classic Shep went for Β£102 quid tonight, far better than this derivative image (soup can by him, him him, then shep, shep, shep)
Million times the image to my eye, if you have one of these and want the Β£90 odd quid after fee's some lucky bugger got this for tonight let me know. Soup cans, well you can keep em, would rather get a warhol poster.
A classic Shep went for Β£102 quid tonight, far better than this derivative image (soup can by him, him him, then shep, shep, shep) Million times the image to my eye, if you have one of these and want the Β£90 odd quid after fee's some lucky bug ger got this for tonight let me know. Soup cans, well you can keep em, would rather get a warhol poster. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by darrenrapley on Sept 9, 2009 22:06:10 GMT 1, I saw this - looks very nice
I saw this - looks very nice
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by rosstierney on Sept 9, 2009 22:29:51 GMT 1, judging by twitter, i think incono are about to post their pricing structure on facebook...
i take that back, the post is nonsense:
www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=125711058546
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by melmoth on Sept 9, 2009 22:57:28 GMT 1,
Hmm. Surely for something to 'sell out' it has to actually sell first? I don't see how anyone got through the four pages of checkout within 15 seconds of the print being dropped.
Which leads to the conclusion that they jacked up the price while the prints were in people's carts, and going through the checkout process.
Terrible, absolutely terrible.
Hmm. Surely for something to 'sell out' it has to actually sell first? I don't see how anyone got through the four pages of checkout within 15 seconds of the print being dropped. Which leads to the conclusion that they jacked up the price while the prints were in people's carts, and going through the checkout process. Terrible, absolutely terrible. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by mutant on Sept 9, 2009 23:26:43 GMT 1, good luck with your credit card details,i would say you have a pretty good chance of them being stolen
I certainly hope they've corrected the problem after Soup Can I. I know lots of folks have beef with Iconoclast. But taking it out on somebody who purchased a print from them is unwarranted.
Thank you very much for your ill-wish 
good luck with your credit card details,i would say you have a pretty good chance of them being stolen I certainly hope they've corrected the problem after Soup Can I. I know lots of folks have beef with Iconoclast. But taking it out on somebody who purchased a print from them is unwarranted. Thank you very much for your ill-wish |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by bullet on Sept 9, 2009 23:34:01 GMT 1, they have non secure checkouts and someone on the giant forum had their credit card details stolen.
was not wishing it on you, you read it wrong.
they have non secure checkouts and someone on the giant forum had their credit card details stolen.
was not wishing it on you, you read it wrong.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by butterfly on Sept 10, 2009 14:55:45 GMT 1, I have informed the folks at Obeygiant, and already received a reply.
They are sorry to hear about the bad customer experience, and are currently investigating what happened.
I have informed the folks at Obeygiant, and already received a reply.
They are sorry to hear about the bad customer experience, and are currently investigating what happened.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by Winter on Sept 10, 2009 15:00:08 GMT 1, How hard can it be to release a print? A decent one at that.
How hard can it be to release a print? A decent one at that.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by njr911 on Sept 10, 2009 15:05:04 GMT 1, How hard can it be to release a print? A decent one at that.
Depends how much cash you want to make out of it 
How hard can it be to release a print? A decent one at that. Depends how much cash you want to make out of it |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by nah on Sept 10, 2009 15:37:51 GMT 1, Hahah so quick to slate an entire gallery just because of a botched print release. It's not like it's an easy situation to handle.
Hahah so quick to slate an entire gallery just because of a botched print release. It's not like it's an easy situation to handle.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by nah on Sept 10, 2009 15:40:56 GMT 1, Hmm. Surely for something to 'sell out' it has to actually sell first? I don't see how anyone got through the four pages of checkout within 15 seconds of the print being dropped. Which leads to the conclusion that they jacked up the price while the prints were in people's carts, and going through the checkout process. Terrible, absolutely terrible.
Never heard of autofill? I hear it's all the rage.
Hmm. Surely for something to 'sell out' it has to actually sell first? I don't see how anyone got through the four pages of checkout within 15 seconds of the print being dropped. Which leads to the conclusion that they jacked up the price while the prints were in people's carts, and going through the checkout process. Terrible, absolutely terrible. Never heard of autofill? I hear it's all the rage. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by packet on Sept 10, 2009 15:41:23 GMT 1, It's not just one botched print release. Soup Can II also had quite a few issues.
It's not just one botched print release. Soup Can II also had quite a few issues.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by njr911 on Sept 10, 2009 16:00:45 GMT 1, It's not just one botched print release. Soup Can II also had quite a few issues.
And on SoupCan I a lot of people had their card details stolen IIRC
no smoke without fire 
It's not just one botched print release. Soup Can II also had quite a few issues. And on SoupCan I a lot of people had their card details stolen IIRC no smoke without fire |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by robotbad on Sept 10, 2009 16:05:43 GMT 1, Hmm. Surely for something to 'sell out' it has to actually sell first? I don't see how anyone got through the four pages of checkout within 15 seconds of the print being dropped. Which leads to the conclusion that they jacked up the price while the prints were in people's carts, and going through the checkout process. Terrible, absolutely terrible. Never heard of autofill? I hear it's all the rage.
yes especially on a page you've not visited previously
Hmm. Surely for something to 'sell out' it has to actually sell first? I don't see how anyone got through the four pages of checkout within 15 seconds of the print being dropped. Which leads to the conclusion that they jacked up the price while the prints were in people's carts, and going through the checkout process. Terrible, absolutely terrible. Never heard of autofill? I hear it's all the rage. yes especially on a page you've not visited previously |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by Happy Shopper on Sept 10, 2009 16:11:38 GMT 1, I guess the trouble is with their scaled prices.
The system doesn't work with a popular release like this. Too many people clicking buy, but then not buying.
Not really the gallery's fault (although they should have seen it coming)
Perhaps, as an act of good will, they could refund people who paid too much... and set one price next time!
I guess the trouble is with their scaled prices.
The system doesn't work with a popular release like this. Too many people clicking buy, but then not buying.
Not really the gallery's fault (although they should have seen it coming)
Perhaps, as an act of good will, they could refund people who paid too much... and set one price next time!
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by packet on Sept 10, 2009 16:17:10 GMT 1, And on SoupCan I a lot of people had their card details stolen IIRC no smoke without fire
Either way, the entire thing leaves me with an extremely bad taste in my mouth. I understand (although dislike) why Iconoclast does rising prices, but there has to be a decent number of prints available at the low price. As it is now, they would have been MUCH more truthful to just release the print at $750 and let people know ahead of time that's how much it costs.
Many of us feel betrayed due to the hype and forcing us to sign up to their twitter feed of follow them on facebook to get a password that would hopefully get us a print for a reasonable price. Then when it was released they completely removed any feedback mechanism and deleted all negative comments. That is NOT how you do damage control. Yes, people were angry. Let them speak their mind and then you come 100% clean with this is what tiers we had for x. It's not like that is proprietary information that can't be released to the public.
While Iconoclast is fully within their rights to set whatever price they want for a print, I'm not about to support a gallery that does a bait and switch. With the vast amount of art out there these days and the prices dropping due to the economy, it's a buyers market. Not to mention Obey does a print release about every other week so chances are something just as nice will be out in a month for $50 or less.
At this point I don't really care if Soup Can IV is released for $10. I'm not buying it or anything else from Iconoclast. I refuse to support such backhanded business practices and actions speak louder than words. I doubt I'm the only one that feels this way and considering the fiasco at the last release, I can't imagine Iconoclast is gaining a whole lot of repeat business after this. I hope for their sake that everything gets shipped properly and no one gets their credit card info stolen.
And on SoupCan I a lot of people had their card details stolen IIRC no smoke without fire Either way, the entire thing leaves me with an extremely bad taste in my mouth. I understand (although dislike) why Iconoclast does rising prices, but there has to be a decent number of prints available at the low price. As it is now, they would have been MUCH more truthful to just release the print at $750 and let people know ahead of time that's how much it costs. Many of us feel betrayed due to the hype and forcing us to sign up to their twitter feed of follow them on facebook to get a password that would hopefully get us a print for a reasonable price. Then when it was released they completely removed any feedback mechanism and deleted all negative comments. That is NOT how you do damage control. Yes, people were angry. Let them speak their mind and then you come 100% clean with this is what tiers we had for x. It's not like that is proprietary information that can't be released to the public. While Iconoclast is fully within their rights to set whatever price they want for a print, I'm not about to support a gallery that does a bait and switch. With the vast amount of art out there these days and the prices dropping due to the economy, it's a buyers market. Not to mention Obey does a print release about every other week so chances are something just as nice will be out in a month for $50 or less. At this point I don't really care if Soup Can IV is released for $10. I'm not buying it or anything else from Iconoclast. I refuse to support such backhanded business practices and actions speak louder than words. I doubt I'm the only one that feels this way and considering the fiasco at the last release, I can't imagine Iconoclast is gaining a whole lot of repeat business after this. I hope for their sake that everything gets shipped properly and no one gets their credit card info stolen. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by rosstierney on Sept 10, 2009 16:34:14 GMT 1, as far as i could see, the only thing wrong with the soup can 2 release was that the cart never expired. everything else was spot on. random release, no password, numerous prints @ $250 & other price points in between.
as for soup can 3, i-con have developed a serious issue with selling prints at below market value hence the $750 majority. upon investigation, here's what i think shep will find:
1. the amount of prints @ $250 & all other price points in between is considerably less compared to soup can 2
2. the time stamps on the minimal early price points will be prior to the 18:53 (uk) release indicating christian disclosed the password to his mates/family. a quick look into names & mutual friends on facebook will confirm this.
as far as i could see, the only thing wrong with the soup can 2 release was that the cart never expired. everything else was spot on. random release, no password, numerous prints @ $250 & other price points in between.
as for soup can 3, i-con have developed a serious issue with selling prints at below market value hence the $750 majority. upon investigation, here's what i think shep will find:
1. the amount of prints @ $250 & all other price points in between is considerably less compared to soup can 2
2. the time stamps on the minimal early price points will be prior to the 18:53 (uk) release indicating christian disclosed the password to his mates/family. a quick look into names & mutual friends on facebook will confirm this.
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by robotbad on Sept 10, 2009 16:51:22 GMT 1, soup can III release was an excercise in attracting new customers, the problem they now have is keeping any of these..I agree with Ross, if it had been identical to soup can II in nature (apart from the cart problem) the problems would have minimal in comparison
soup can III release was an excercise in attracting new customers, the problem they now have is keeping any of these..I agree with Ross, if it had been identical to soup can II in nature (apart from the cart problem) the problems would have minimal in comparison
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by melmoth on Sept 10, 2009 16:51:40 GMT 1, as far as i could see, the only thing wrong with the soup can 2 release was that the cart never expired. everything else was spot on. random release, no password, numerous prints @ $250 & other price points in between. as for soup can 3, i-con have developed a serious issue with selling prints at below market value hence the $750 majority. upon investigation, here's what i think shep will find: 1. the amount of prints @ $250 & all other price points in between is considerably less compared to soup can 2 2. the time stamps on the minimal early price points will be prior to the 18:53 (uk) release indicating christian disclosed the password to his mates/family. a quick look into names & mutual friends on facebook will confirm this.
In terms of point 2, someone on Facebook noted that the web-site had changed (and was theoretically password enabled) several minutes before the password was announced. He even said 'Wait for it', or something along those lines, and said that the site had changed when questioned on it.
I can't remember who it was (as everything was deleted), but he did have a distinctive photo. I could work it out if I go through the (dwindling) Fan listing.
as far as i could see, the only thing wrong with the soup can 2 release was that the cart never expired. everything else was spot on. random release, no password, numerous prints @ $250 & other price points in between. as for soup can 3, i-con have developed a serious issue with selling prints at below market value hence the $750 majority. upon investigation, here's what i think shep will find: 1. the amount of prints @ $250 & all other price points in between is considerably less compared to soup can 2 2. the time stamps on the minimal early price points will be prior to the 18:53 (uk) release indicating christian disclosed the password to his mates/family. a quick look into names & mutual friends on facebook will confirm this. In terms of point 2, someone on Facebook noted that the web-site had changed (and was theoretically password enabled) several minutes before the password was announced. He even said 'Wait for it', or something along those lines, and said that the site had changed when questioned on it. I can't remember who it was (as everything was deleted), but he did have a distinctive photo. I could work it out if I go through the (dwindling) Fan listing. |
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Shepard Fairey - Soup Can III, by snausages on Sept 10, 2009 16:52:17 GMT 1, I don't believe any prints sold at $250, as a few people say they saw the $250 price but after adding to cart and within seconds it jumped to $750. If people had the password early the $250 price would have probably been gone. And not even autofill would get you through that fast when you needed to spend several seconds entering the password before you could add to cart. I think their shopping cart is effed up and can't handle the pricing structure and load. --- I'm sure he can hook up his friends directly, don't think that's the problem.
And the shopping cart is not secure. This is a serious problem, maybe they should be reported to BBB?
But anyway, Iconoclast has mentioned they have an arms deep list of 'clients' aside from us internet fools who were willing to spend a lot of money on these prints. Where are they now?
I don't believe any prints sold at $250, as a few people say they saw the $250 price but after adding to cart and within seconds it jumped to $750. If people had the password early the $250 price would have probably been gone. And not even autofill would get you through that fast when you needed to spend several seconds entering the password before you could add to cart. I think their shopping cart is effed up and can't handle the pricing structure and load. --- I'm sure he can hook up his friends directly, don't think that's the problem.
And the shopping cart is not secure. This is a serious problem, maybe they should be reported to BBB?
But anyway, Iconoclast has mentioned they have an arms deep list of 'clients' aside from us internet fools who were willing to spend a lot of money on these prints. Where are they now?
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