banksy police car

[danvnuk]

alsbabar said:

ok got a heads up on this - this was never a print, this was only ever a stencil painting on canvas, so sorry to say babyjane, its not a real banksy

Just to be pedantic -

I agree, this image has never been a print - but this doesn't look like a print. It looks like stencil on card.....in fact, didn't babyjane state it was on card in the first post?

I wouldn't like to say for sure its not the real deal....

[Oliver Garland]

the only person who knows whther its real is banksy, she never said it was a print, so what relevance does a print of it have? It could be an original done by him, or it mite be a fake, but before you go stating it on here thats its fake atleast let her go and check it out first.

[alsbabar]

it would have been signed and like i told someone on PM, this would have been sold and receipted if it was the "turf war" show. Perhaps someone who also was there would have remembered.

All I was told was this piece was stencil painting on canvas and not cardboard

[icky]

BabyJane: I do not believe that Alsabar is an expert in any way, so don't believe his "its not a real banksy". I do not know either but I would suspect it's not a print but spray on card board. Banksy used to do quite a lot of these and I'll see if I can find something like yours anywhere.

Please don't sell this for less than £40.000 before you are certain it is not an original Banksy.

[alsbabar]

whatever icky, i really dont care - was just trying to help out

[graeme501]

i agree u were trying to help but stating its not a real banksy is slightly misleading, no1 can tell through a picture and babyjane should email banksys new company pest control, and go through their authentication process and then will know for sure

[icky]

alsbabar said:

whatever icky, i really dont care - was just trying to help out

Do not try to help when you don't have a clue whatsoever. This could cost someone tens of thousands. Like in this case.

This is probably from Turf War. I've seen several pics of it, but found this in a quick search:

www.artofthestate.co.uk/Banksy/Banksy_Turf_war_cop_car.htm



Art of the state is one of the oldest and best sites for Street Art, so you can trust them. If it's this exact version i don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised.

I would guess it's worth from £30 000 to the double if not more.

[foundation]

admin said:

alsbabar said:

what if i do know?

Dunt worry about it alsbabar ;D Ya just cant help some people no matter what you do or say One BIG lesson I have learned on here over the years

awwwww

[danvnuk]

These look nothing alike.....any fool can see that.

I'll give you £10 for it, get yourself down the cinema, catch a movie , sheesh - call me a crazy fool, I'll even throw an extra £5 in for some popcorn and a Coke. Whaddya say?

[Sherlock Holmes]

danvnuk said:

These look nothing alike.....any fool can see that.

I'll give you £10 for it, get yourself down the cinema, catch a movie , sheesh - call me a crazy fool, I'll even throw an extra £5 in for some popcorn and a Coke. Whaddya say?

Well, call me a fool but they certainly look very similar to me

[icky]

These are not mine, but they are from Turf War:

[danvnuk]

ged7775 said:

Well, call me a fool but they certainly look very similar to me

There's no pulling the wool over your eyes 'Sherlock Holmes' ;D

[graeme501]

looking at the overspray below the nearerst 'wheel' they look exactly the same

id say a match

[Sherlock Holmes]

danvnuk said:

ged7775 said:

Well, call me a fool but they certainly look very similar to me

There's no pulling the wool over your eyes 'Sherlock Holmes' ;D

[graeme501]

alittlebird said:

alsbabar said:

babyjane i sent you a pm, if you want it authenticated i will help you.

it would have been signed and like i told someone on PM, this would have been sold and receipted if it was the "turf war" show. Perhaps someone who also was there would have remembered.

All I was told was this piece was stencil painting on canvas and not cardboard

ok got a heads up on this - this was never a print, this was only ever a stencil painting on canvas, so sorry to say babyjane, its not a real banksy.

Perhaps i should be less helpful and more antagonistic - it is much more fun.

I may have missed the odd post or two, could anyone show me the "helpful" one?

ahh u havent met alsbarbar ... he is the resident 'banksy expert'

[icky]

alsbabar said:

ok got a heads up on this - this was never a print, this was only ever a stencil painting on canvas, so sorry to say babyjane, its not a real banksy

[yapsey]

ged7775 said:

danvnuk said:

These look nothing alike.....any fool can see that.

I'll give you £10 for it, get yourself down the cinema, catch a movie , sheesh - call me a crazy fool, I'll even throw an extra £5 in for some popcorn and a Coke. Whaddya say?

Well, call me a fool but they certainly look very similar to me

compare the shadow from the front bumpers - they are different in each image

no can can really say, they are all just educated guesses. your best bet is taking to LAZ. in know they've split, but his opinion will still be very valuable in this situation.

[arcam]

Great work Icky.

[graeme501]

compare it to the shot from the turf war shot, look at the overspray at the bottom, they look an exact match 2 me

[solar77]

Looks like the same image - I think the front bumper shadow disparity is caused by the brightness/contrast in the first pic.

[yapsey]

graeme501 said:

compare it to the shot from the turf war shot, look at the overspray at the bottom, they look an exact match 2 me

you are indeed right - there is a dimple (going down) about an inch in on the right on the one in question - it is the same in the turf war one - but different in the one from the artofthestate........

[Harveyn]

There are definitely differences in the two images. The profile on the front right bricks are not the same and the rear left completely different. That said that does not mean that this is not an original.

If your story is true then without a doubt seek expert opinion and try to get some form of authentication.

If its real and you can prove it its worth a significant sum of money.

[alsbabar]

i dont profess to be a "banksy expert", all I was told was, that this was not a real one

Babyj, email pestcontroloffice, not laz and if they authenticate it, fantastic. Good luck to you.

[colonelkurtz]

as we are discussing over spray... anyone notice the size difference?

[icky]

alsbabar said:

i dont profess to be a "banksy expert", all I was told was, that this was not a real one

Babyj, email pestcontroloffice, not laz and if they authenticate it, fantastic. Good luck to you.

To quote teatwosugars on another thread:
"You f**kin hypocrite."

[solar77]

All of the differences noted above could be caused by differences in the photography. I think it's the same piece, but you'd have to see it in person to know for sure.

[graeme501]

it looks like it could be the same size if u removed the frame

but is impossible to tell without seeing it ... which i never will

[alsbabar]

icky, do you fancy me? have i rejected your advances? because you seem to have a lot of anger going through your veins towards me!!

Would a free brown Dirtyfunker 12" pacify you?

[danvnuk]

The thing is - if this is indeed a stencil on card, and therefore an original - no two will be exactly alike (dont know how many of these are in circulation) - and also - the images look a bit stretched etc - so its impossible to compare properly.

As a few people have said - this looks good enough that she should seek some proper authentication from Laz or PestControl or whoevers doing it nowadays ;D

Could be sitting on a hell of a lot of money (which was brought home to me rather forcefully, as I popped in Andipa today for a look - and some eye wateringly expensive Banksy's have been sold - forget about the originals, 8k for a Colour trolleys - sold!!

[Rude Copper]

who 'told' you alsbabar?