[instinct]

ok so it looks good on the record sleeve! not sure about babyjanes 'version' though.
no disrespect babyjane but the story stinks and to be honest the image you show does not look right to me!

[Prescription Art]

Here's a couple of other versionsl...

[spirit]

Instinct - have a look at seidbereit's post on page 3 of this thread - babyjanes version looks pretty close.

Edit: Thanks prescription - you beat me to it.

[foreman]

icky said:

These are not mine, but they are from Turf War:

babyjane said:

Hi some more pictures of the copcar out of the fame

these two pieces look different to my eye... the above one from the turf war show has a distinct bump to the cardboard at the upper right where it is hanging from the wire... baby janes does not appear to have this bump...

also along the back fender on the car from one at the show... the black shadow looks to be filled in entirely from the back tire to the back bumper... in baby janes there is a white line around the back tire which breaks the shadow...


im not saying yours isnt real baby j ... just saying these two pieces look different to me.

EDIT* just saw perscriptions post... im sure banksy probably did multiple versions this image on different pieces of cardboard and the spray was varied a little each time..

[Prescription Art]

foreman said:

these two pieces look different to my eye... the above one from the turf war show has a distinct bump to the cardboard at the upper right where it is hanging from the wire... baby janes does not appear to have this bump...

also along the back fender on the car from one at the show... the black shadow looks to be filled in entirely from the back tire to the back bumper... in baby janes there is a white line around the back tire which breaks the shadow...


im not saying yours isnt real baby j ... just saying these two pieces look different to me.

baby jane's definitely doesn't look like the one that hung at Turf War. The other one I have a picture of is different as well as it has a tag in the bottom left. My guess is that it's real but a third version, but to be honest you're going to have to try & get provenance one way or another. These things are too easy to fake.

[RBK]

babjane - any response from Pest Control yet?

[instinct]

i guess the only point in discussing this here is that babyjane invited us to... our thoughts though as you rightly point out little bird are simply a matter of opinion.

[instinct]

ps when is the spot the difference book out? can i order a first edition copy? ;D

[instinct]

pps my opinion is that babjanes police car image is a frugaisie. the reason i have formed this opinion is that the story does not hang together so well and that her image just does not look right to me!

[bowser30]

why dont you just ask he where her husband obtained it from?

[romanywg]

Babyjane you're on the wrong forum if you want an expert opinion.
They are all over on W A L L C A N D Y .COM
There are 3 or 4 members there that I'm sure will help you out and not mention your husband or make demeaning comments about shoes.

[spirit]

w a l l c a n d y .com - for bespoke interiors photography

w a l l K a n d y .net - for Banksy experts ;-)

[paulypaul]

romanywg said:

Babyjane you're on the wrong forum if you want an expert opinion.
They are all over on W A L L C A N D Y .COM
There are 3 or 4 members there that I'm sure will help you out and not mention your husband or make demeaning comments about shoes.

Oops -

rsiveart.proboards53.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1205450319

(copy WHOLE link - don't click (s'not allowed...))

[romanywg]

spirit said:

w a l l c a n d y .com - for bespoke interiors photography

w a l l K a n d y .net - for Banksy experts ;-)

That's funny. Thanks for that.

[tenhairytoes]

romanywg said:

spirit said:

w a l l c a n d y .com - for bespoke interiors photography

w a l l K a n d y .net - for Banksy experts ;-)

That's funny. Thanks for that.

LOL are you telling me jboy cant help me out on authenticating Banksys?

[romanywg]

No, but Alsbabar can.

[kentkid]

;D ;D ;D

[Rude Copper]

romanywg said:

Babyjane you're on the wrong forum if you want an expert opinion.
They are all over on W A L L C A N D Y .COM
There are 3 or 4 members there that I'm sure will help you out and not mention your husband or make demeaning comments about shoes.

there's no such thing as a banksy expert,
are you sure you did'nt mean to write 'anorak' instead?

[danvnuk]

romanywg said:

Babyjane you're on the wrong forum if you want an expert opinion.
They are all over on W A L L C A N D Y .COM
There are 3 or 4 members there that I'm sure will help you out and not mention your husband or make demeaning comments about shoes.

I sent message recommending the same course of action to her via PM a while back - but I just checked my sent messages and the WK part was magically removed..(Forgot you can't say it )...so I'm afraid the message made no sense to her at all LOL

I'm not a nutcase really.

[Rude Copper]

yeh, possibly a bit childish,
but for the record, possibly the only person on these forums who can claim to be something of an expert is 'thugs'(on the old ebay forum) , who is possibly 'a little bird' on here,
outside of that everyone else is a a student, & their opinions are exactly that, opinions.
i find it amazing that people constantly put themselves in the frame as arbitors of authenticity, when the extent of the knowledge is a copy of wall & piece & 6 months posting to a forum. when you think that the piece we're discussing is potentially worth, i dont know, £40,000?, dont you think people should be a little more sure footed with their information?

[aj]

wallkandy

[aj]

Oh! you really can't spell wall k a n dy on here!

how strange

[guest2]

rudecopper said:

......
but for the record, possibly the only person on these forums who can claim to be something of an expert is 'thugs' (on the old ebay forum) , who is possibly 'a little bird' on here,
...

little bird does seem to have inside knowledge and a good wit - something that thugs has in abundance

[Rude Copper]

no more strange than people's constant reference to it!,
if you dont know, wk tends to be very factual, but also very dull, well, compared to the old ebay forum where it eminated from, anyway.

[Rude Copper]

lol
no combover?

[fuzzed]

I just found this old thread and read through it, did we ever find out whether it was real?!

[lee3]

Jan 14, 2009 19:11:56 GMT 1 fuzzed said:

I just found this old thread and read through it, did we ever find out whether it was real?!

and i put myself through the pain or reading this horrible drivel probably because you bumped the thread. no harm no foul though and my curiosity and memory were what kept me in tune. There was a police car that failed at auction and my recollection of that fact is what kept me reading on. Unfortunately, now that i did the artnet search i believe the one that failed at auction was different than baby jane's as the car was facing the left. Here are the details:

Banksy
Title Police car
Medium stencil spray paint on cardboard
Size 30.7 x 38.2 in. / 78 x 97 cm.
Year 2003 -
Description Banksy (British, born 1975) 'Police Car', 2003 stencil spray paint on more ...
Sale Of Bonhams London: Thursday, October 23, 2008 [Lot 3]
Urban Art
Estimate 30,000 - 50,000 BP (52,092 - 86,820 US$)
Sold For BOUGHT IN

And i just found a photo of it that i can link at flickr:

flickr.com/photos/12616147@N08/2965054652

[hunter007]

Mar 8, 2008 13:56:39 GMT 1 seidbereit said:

Great piece babyjane

I hope you take the general advice here and do nothing until you've had this properly authenticated.

Just a general question to those more knowledgable than me... but on the assumption that both are exactly the same piece on cardboard it looks like the cardboard (particularly at the front of the car) has been cut down quite a lot in order to fit into that frame... is this important issue? There must be 2 or 3 inches missing off the right hand side...

NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE , LIKE

[johnnyh]

Whoa hunter what a thread this s glad to see nothings really changed on the forum. Some classic comments throughout.
Yet never a proper decision on if it was real or not.

[hunter007]

Jan 13, 2012 17:52:25 GMT 1 johnnyh said:

Whoa hunter what a thread this s glad to see nothings really changed on the forum. Some classic comments throughout.
Yet never a proper decision on if it was real or not.

yeah i must admit a few comments did make me smile,