Banksy in Kiev, Ukraine 🇺🇦

[Reader]

Nov 13, 2022 21:24:13 GMT 1 Pete the Post said:

Nov 13, 2022 19:59:59 GMT 1 Reader said:

Thank you, finally, a voice of reason. Greece had a huge problem with neo-nazi's until very recently. 12 or 13 years ago Golden Dawn had the third-largest party in the Greek parliament. Golden Dawn leader Nikos Mihaloliakos and six other senior lawmakers from the party were all convicted and jailed for operating what the Greek Supreme Court  called a criminal organization masquerading as a political organization, and whilst there's no doubt that the AZOV battalion were neo-nazi sympathisers, those members were expelled long ago. Far-right extremism is far more prevelant in Greece than Ukraine. As for the rest of the thread, just damn right embarrassing. As someone said, imagine revisiting this thread in a week or so. Just cringe.

Nikos you say, interesting lol. 

That piece kinda made me think of the russian guy that painted the dick on that opening bridge in Moscow? When it raised it pointed towards the secret police building or something. Your theory makes more sense though. 

Ah, the Voina group created that, brilliant little group of radical artists, I was in touch with them shortly after this but was impossible to secure travel visas. On a related note, Banksy actually bailed them out of prison.





" A dick for the KGB". 2010. Facing their headquarters :-)

[bookends]

Nov 13, 2022 23:06:35 GMT 1 Reader said:

Nov 13, 2022 21:24:13 GMT 1 Pete the Post said:

Nikos you say, interesting lol. 

That piece kinda made me think of the russian guy that painted the dick on that opening bridge in Moscow? When it raised it pointed towards the secret police building or something. Your theory makes more sense though. 

Ah, the Voina group created that, brilliant little group of radical artists, I was in touch with them shortly after this but was impossible to secure travel visas. On a related note, Banksy actually bailed them out of prison.





" A dick for the KGB". 2010. Facing their headquarters :-)

Was this around the time of the Donut release  or is old age failing me ?

[Georgie Poppit]

I think this thread shows where this forum is now. It’s just a place to flip second rate art and tat and no interest in street art or Banksy at all. Very sad all the good people have left now.

[Reader]

Nov 14, 2022 0:16:07 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

I think this thread shows where this forum is now. It’s just a place to flip second rate art and tat and no interest in street art or Banksy at all. Very sad all the good people have left now.

The balance has certainly shifted, maybe the pending recession will see it swing the other way when 90% of what's being bought to flip is worth a fraction of the massively inflated primary prices of the print market.

[Deleted]

Nov 14, 2022 0:27:53 GMT 1 Reader said:

Nov 14, 2022 0:16:07 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

I think this thread shows where this forum is now. It’s just a place to flip second rate art and tat and no interest in street art or Banksy at all. Very sad all the good people have left now.

The balance has certainly shifted, maybe the pending recession will see it swing the other way when 90% of what's being bought to flip is worth a fraction of the massively inflated primary prices of the print market.

The primary prices are well below what they're selling for secondary even with the correction since last summer which has been severe. There's a possibility it could drop  more for sure but the most damage is done percentage wise. It's unlikely the secondary prices will drop below primary imo. There's not much flipping going on these days, it's not that type of market now. There's hasn't been much going out primary this last while.

[cosmic]

Nov 13, 2022 23:28:34 GMT 1 bookends said:

Nov 13, 2022 23:06:35 GMT 1 Reader said:

Ah, the Voina group created that, brilliant little group of radical artists, I was in touch with them shortly after this but was impossible to secure travel visas. On a related note, Banksy actually bailed them out of prison.





" A dick for the KGB". 2010. Facing their headquarters :-)

Was this around the time of the Donut release  or is old age failing me ?

It was the CYW print that was used to generate money to help bail them out .

[Daniel Silk]

I think this piece works much better from a distance where you can see the building properly.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck3urnmL3NU

[churchwood]

have to agree with you DS - the bigger picture is certainly the better one, contextualy (sic) it's better showing the destruction above,

Is it as straight forward as that despite eveything getting thrown at them, the Ukranians are carrying on, life as normal etc etc - apologies if that's already pointed out but I decided to skip a load of the previous posts as the thread was derailing bigtime

[apprint]

Nov 14, 2022 0:16:07 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

I think this thread shows where this forum is now. It’s just a place to flip second rate art and tat and no interest in street art or Banksy at all. Very sad all the good people have left now.

nothing to do with the forum, peoples dont give a dam about banksy anymore.. bla bla

[Lazarus II]

Nov 14, 2022 14:35:22 GMT 1 apprint said:

Nov 14, 2022 0:16:07 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

I think this thread shows where this forum is now. It’s just a place to flip second rate art and tat and no interest in street art or Banksy at all. Very sad all the good people have left now.

nothing to do with the forum, peoples dont give a dam about banksy anymore.. bla bla

Give or take his 11.3M followers on Instagram alone, you could well be right…

[Lroy]

Nov 14, 2022 14:35:22 GMT 1 apprint said:

Nov 14, 2022 0:16:07 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

I think this thread shows where this forum is now. It’s just a place to flip second rate art and tat and no interest in street art or Banksy at all. Very sad all the good people have left now.

nothing to do with the forum, peoples dont give a dam about banksy anymore.. bla bla

I disagree. and agree with Georgie Poppit.

Give them GDP and they all come as wasps on the rests of a T-bone.

But maybe are you one of these flippers only interesting by money, trades, NFTs, by The hype of today - live on Discord - that won't be anything in the future. Street-art and art is invaded by young - or less - speculators...

Banksy has nothing left to prove. Even absent he is in everyone's mind and is flooding the media when something is happening.

Too much hype for a lot of others artists, that's all.

Some are great, some others, only fashion.

Banksy is out of time.

edit : I knew people ( even galleries ) who snubbed or hated Invader some years ago, before his collaboration with Obey or before Djerba. Now they are all looking for a kit !

Are you looking for a kit  ? ;-)

[mandem]

Nov 14, 2022 15:06:20 GMT 1 Lroy said:

edit : I knew people ( even galleries ) who snubbed or hated Invader some years ago, before his collaboration with Obey or before Djerba. Now they are all looking for a kit !

Are you looking for a kit  ? ;-)

Invader is dead, Lroy.  His market is withered and shrivelled to nothing - victime de la mode; tel est son nom de code.

I'll buy your kit at the new tiny (m)in(i)vader market price

[Lroy]

Nov 14, 2022 16:48:03 GMT 1 mandem said:

Nov 14, 2022 15:06:20 GMT 1 Lroy said:

edit : I knew people ( even galleries ) who snubbed or hated Invader some years ago, before his collaboration with Obey or before Djerba. Now they are all looking for a kit !

Are you looking for a kit  ? ;-)

Invader is dead, Lroy.  His market is withered and shrivelled to nothing - victime de la mode; tel est son nom de code.

I'll buy your kit at the new tiny (m)in(i)vader market price

Everybody is dead with you : Apart Kaws Hirst DFace, Doodle, artoys, toys and NFT ? etc..  And all this French hype as Chanoir, Jace, etc..

Don't worry for Invader, He will survive.

As you, trolling on this thread with only two posts, to claim your hate of Banksy etc..

Funny as you are only talking about money, in two posts..

[mandem]

Nov 14, 2022 17:08:46 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Nov 14, 2022 16:48:03 GMT 1 mandem said:

Invader is dead, Lroy.  His market is withered and shrivelled to nothing - victime de la mode; tel est son nom de code.

I'll buy your kit at the new tiny (m)in(i)vader market price

Everybody is dead with you : Apart Kaws Hirst DFace, Doodle, artoys, toys and NFT ? etc..  And all this French hype as Chanoir, Jace, etc..

Don't worry for Invader, He will survive.

As you, trolling on this thread with only two posts, to claim your hate of Banksy etc..

Funny as you are only talking about money, in two posts..

Not trolling the thread at all, just to deflect from political arguments.  I love Banksy's work - both on walls and in frames (with exception of Applause tbh).    Just two posts, on this account, yes, but been on this board since 2007

[Extra Ball]

Nov 13, 2022 9:29:14 GMT 1 bookends said:

Nov 13, 2022 9:20:34 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

I agree. It feels sloppy to be fair. 
Cut off hands, people out of proportion , overspray and lack of shading. That's all I can see. . 

You guys know I'm not a big Banksy fan anymore since the fraud , but I can admit if a piece by the collective  is good and well executed. Those aren't though. 

It's maybe a lot of works, but quality over quantity . 
If he'd gone out there, done a full size sideview of a tank rolling over rubble with a few rats sticking out the portholes and a big "Z"on the side with a big Banksy tag across that, it would have said more and had more impact than this entire set. 

Steffi 

You are a nothing, a nobody,  YOU are not Banksy, You never will be !  The sooner you realise that the better !!   NOBODY cares what you would do !  because you are a nothing in life.....

I must admit that the reason escapes you my poor friend. Why are you so aggressive? Are your pants soiled?
Concentrate, I remain convinced that you can bring more than that to this forum

[Gnocchi Friends]

The (formally known as) British national front laid a wreath on Sunday at the cenotaph. There was a heavy far right presence in parliament Square and Trafalgar Square Saturday last, at the tuc march. So we have a massive problem with Nazis. Right now!

[trowel]

Nov 14, 2022 14:35:22 GMT 1 apprint said:

Nov 14, 2022 0:16:07 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

I think this thread shows where this forum is now. It’s just a place to flip second rate art and tat and no interest in street art or Banksy at all. Very sad all the good people have left now.

nothing to do with the forum, peoples dont give a dam about banksy anymore.. bla bla

We've been saying that on here since 2006

O l d s k o o l

[fuzzed]

Interesting that it appears photos posted by Jo Brooks and fragile on Instagram over the last couple of days with credit to Banksy, are actually those have been circulated to press agencies, I assume via Jo Brooks. First time I believe he’s knowingly done this before posting them himself?

[Not 4 The Thril]

I wonder if something happened to him and he was unable to post the photos or video himself. No cell service? equipment failure- camera lost/stolen/arrested? 

The original photo of the man in the bathtub by a Ukranian person says the painting was first seen last week. I wonder how old these are?

[Daniel Silk]

I think this is the best piece so far, as for me it's the only one with a clear message behind it. Anti fighting, Anti War, just big egos, big dicks fighting eachother.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck8s9AaoY6k

[Jules Leotard]

Nov 15, 2022 1:24:47 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

I think this is the best piece so far, as for me it's the only one with a clear message behind it. Anti fighting, Anti War, just big egos, big dicks fighting eachother.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck8s9AaoY6k

I'm going to have to book a ticket.  "Cutting it out" is my only opportunity at owning an original in this lifetime. Gotta beat the Garbler guy (or whatever his name is) to it. 

I jest, therefore I am.

[Dutch Art Collector]

New one spotted. Thanks it’s banksy again. Nice piece I think. What continu think?

[PS]

Nov 15, 2022 9:01:28 GMT 1 Dutch Art Collector said:

New one spotted. Thanks it’s banksy again. Nice piece I think. What continu think?

Please can you credit the photographer or person where you discovered the image, thank you. 

[Lroy]

Nov 15, 2022 9:54:32 GMT 1 PS said:

Nov 15, 2022 9:01:28 GMT 1 Dutch Art Collector said:

New one spotted. Thanks it’s banksy again. Nice piece I think. What continu think?

Please can you credit the photographer or person where you discovered the image, thank you. 

Easy, only use the # Banksy on IG, click on last posts and you will find it or him or her !

http://instagram.com/p/Ck-a1AKLGEM

[Lroy]

Nov 15, 2022 10:11:42 GMT 1 @geegon said:

Nov 15, 2022 9:01:28 GMT 1 Dutch Art Collector said:

New one spotted. Thanks it’s banksy again. Nice piece I think. What continu think?

Is the Olive branch an actual shadow or part of the piece? Regardless, I think its brilliant and a very strong image. The best yet.

yes, an amazing one ! wow ! very classy, singular and significative ! a bit of poetry too ! ( for me The Olive branch is apparently a shadow )

[Lroy]

Nov 15, 2022 10:41:38 GMT 1 Romulus said:

I'm not convinced the prison window is by Banksy
I'm not convinced the prison window is by Banksy

we find this "flesh color" - ochre, pink - of the hands, on most of Banksy's works or faces...

[Minecrafter]

Nov 15, 2022 9:01:28 GMT 1 Dutch Art Collector said:

New one spotted. Thanks it’s banksy again. Nice piece I think. What continu think?

🥱🤨 Very unoriginal and badly executed .. 

Words words words words words words words words words words 

[PS]

Nov 15, 2022 10:10:45 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Nov 15, 2022 9:54:32 GMT 1 PS said:

Please can you credit the photographer or person where you discovered the image, thank you. 

Easy, only use the # Banksy on IG, click on last posts and you will find it or him or her !

http://instagr.am/p/Ck-a1AKLGEM

Thanks, the reason I asked is that lots of people are reposting images without acknowledging the actual photographer. If you are going to steal the image please give the credit 

[Johnny Sarcasm]

Nov 15, 2022 10:48:46 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Nov 15, 2022 9:01:28 GMT 1 Dutch Art Collector said:

New one spotted. Thanks it’s banksy again. Nice piece I think. What continu think?

🥱🤨 Very unoriginal and badly executed .. 

Words words words words words words words words words words 

What were the really original pieces that you painted in Kiev? Keen to see your undoubted talent 🙄

[hnkpnk]

I really doubt this is Banksy. Too sentimental.

It’s on this Twitter account since four days.