Corona Virus effect on the art market?

[acme]

Exponential growth and epidemics

Animated math

[nobokov]

Mar 12, 2020 6:50:08 GMT 1 acme said:

Exponential growth and epidemics

Animated math

I think the graph omitted the data points at the end, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, and finally the Kardashians.

[Gentle Mental]

Isn't this a good time to pick up stocks instead of art?

What stock would you recommend - dear forum members? I'm a total noob with the stocky stocks marketing market.... point me the way?

[pellets]

Mar 12, 2020 9:12:41 GMT 1 Gentle Mental said:

Isn't this a good time to pick up stocks instead of art?

What stock would you recommend - dear forum members? I'm a total noob with the stocky stocks marketing market.... point me the way?

I’ve got a hot tip on some cruise line stocks!

[ajr]

Mar 12, 2020 9:12:41 GMT 1 Gentle Mental said:

Isn't this a good time to pick up stocks instead of art?

What stock would you recommend - dear forum members? I'm a total noob with the stocky stocks marketing market.... point me the way?

Oil stocks. Down due to virus and Russia/Saudi Arabia battle for market share. Better bet than cruises as people will not travel for a fair bit after this is over.

[aumi]

I think it is going to have a massiv impact on the art market. At least til the moment people realize how serious it is. Economy will decline/ is already declining. People need the money to buy essentials and not art. Lets hope that higher temperatures will kill the virus. Otherwise we will have to wait quite a while for any vaccine.

[Fake]

This is a very interesting podcast about the virus

[Daniel Silk]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9m2CdsnM3K

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Mar 12, 2020 13:13:13 GMT 1 god’s ultimate noise said:

So Trump bans all flights from (most of) Europe, but exempts the UK.

Leading coronavirus expert Nigel Farage (“the World Health Organisation is just another club of ‘clever people’ who want to bully and tell us what to do”) spews more jingoistic nonsense saying “drastic but necessary measures. The UK is now treated as an independent country”.

Besides the fact Trump’s ban also exempts a number of EU countries, Farage and other UK Trump supporters thinking he’s doing us a favour have - unsurprisingly - failed to grasp that this means any Americans (or anyone else for that matter) trying to get to the US from Italy and other affected hotspots will be obliged to travel via the UK (where passengers arriving from other countries are NOT being tested at UK airports) thus considerably increasing the risk of spreading infection here.

That was exactly my thoughts. I also have a lot of other thoughts that I still can't comprehend.
Why did we not stop all flights from China for 2 weeks from the onset of knowing this was a bad virus?
Why the hell are spectators allowed at Cheltenham festival all this week? There are 70,000 people mingling all day every day like sardines. It's not like a football match where they are all seated.
It's all down to money and the economy comes first and people's lives and health second.
All a bit fucked up if you ask me🙄

[irl1]

Ireland

From tomorrow all schools, colleges and childcare facilities are to close.

Also indoor gatherings of over a 100 people or outdoor of over 500 are to be cancelled

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Mar 12, 2020 13:47:09 GMT 1 Mooncub said:

Mar 12, 2020 13:28:52 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

That was exactly my thoughts. I also have a lot of other thoughts that I still can't comprehend.
Why did we not stop all flights from China for 2 weeks from the onset of knowing this was a bad virus?
Why the hell are spectators allowed at Cheltenham festival all this week? There are 70,000 people mingling all day every day like sardines. It's not like a football match where they are all seated.
It's all down to money and the economy comes first and people's lives and health second.
All a bit fucked up if you ask me🙄

But this "ban large crowds" thing doesn't really make sense.  You are only going to catch the virus from being in close proximity to someone with the virus.  In other words being in a big football stadium is no more risky than being in a crowded pub or a crowded supermarket trying to buy the last pack of loo roll.   

I understand what you are saying about stadiums, but have you ever been to Cheltenham festival. Its absolutely heaving with people pushing and shoving in the bars. One person there could potentially infect 100 others, not just the one or two sat next to a carrier at a football match.

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Mar 12, 2020 13:49:15 GMT 1 irl1 said:

Ireland

From tomorrow all schools, colleges and childcare facilities are to close.

Also indoor gatherings of over a 100 people or outdoor of over 500 are to be cancelled

Sensible, let's hope we follow... and who said the Irish were stupid? 😉

[irl1]

Mar 12, 2020 14:04:03 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Mar 12, 2020 13:49:15 GMT 1 irl1 said:

Ireland

From tomorrow all schools, colleges and childcare facilities are to close.

Also indoor gatherings of over a 100 people or outdoor of over 500 are to be cancelled

Sensible, let's hope we follow... and who said the Irish were stupid? 😉

who said the Irish were stupid? .................. The Irish 

[tab1]

Mar 12, 2020 13:13:13 GMT 1 god’s ultimate noise said:

So Trump bans all flights from (most of) Europe, but exempts the UK.

Leading coronavirus expert Nigel Farage (“the World Health Organisation is just another club of ‘clever people’ who want to bully and tell us what to do”) spews more jingoistic nonsense saying “drastic but necessary measures. The UK is now treated as an independent country”.

Besides the fact Trump’s ban also exempts a number of EU countries, Farage and other UK Trump supporters thinking he’s doing us a favour have - unsurprisingly - failed to grasp that this means any Americans (or anyone else for that matter) trying to get to the US from Italy and other affected hotspots will be obliged to travel via the UK (where passengers arriving from other countries are NOT being tested at UK airports) thus considerably increasing the risk of spreading infection here.

foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/26/europe-is-thinking-harder-about-divorcing-america-macron-merkel-trump/

More behind the scenes

[wrigs]

Global recession going to be on the way, it’s going to be a muck show.

[irl1]

He might have blown his chance with the girlfriend what a tool

Man sentenced over Covid-19 'pandemonium' on Aer Lingus flight (2 months in jail)

www.rte.ie/news/2020/0312/1121915-hoax-covid-19-aer-lingus/

[GMA]

Any forum members currently living in Italy?

[chevyav53]

Mar 12, 2020 19:59:44 GMT 1 GMA said:

Any forum members currently living in Italy?

Have some buddies out there and they say it is weird, ghost town but it just started. Nothing like what happened in China where I have a team and they said had armed guards outside the apartment buildings questioning where they were going and forcing people back inside.  

[tran16]

Mar 12, 2020 19:59:44 GMT 1 GMA said:

Any forum members currently living in Italy?

Spoke to a friend who lives in Milan. Only grocery stores, supermarkets, bakeries, hardware stores and tobacconists open. Supermarkets letting people in 5 at a time. He went out with his wife for a stroll today but officially that’s not allowed.., permit required. Milanese are pretty much getting on with it. Bad stories from hospitals. Some small optimism that Lombardia may be turning the corner.

[Javier]

Mar 12, 2020 18:06:10 GMT 1 Mooncub said:

Mar 12, 2020 14:01:55 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

I understand what you are saying about stadiums, but have you ever been to Cheltenham festival. Its absolutely heaving with people pushing and shoving in the bars. One person there could potentially infect 100 others, not just the one or two sat next to a carrier at a football match.

True.  But the same thing would happen in a busy pub.  Or are they considering closing pubs as well? 

They will. Maybe as they did in Italy, too late, or in Spain, that will do soon (let’s hope that not so late as things are going bad already...)

[pellets]

Finally, the cross over of corona and street art, check out the print in the background:

www.instagram.com/tv/B9oWZi-gKYV/?igshid=qe93hbp8q9an

(I dont know how to do that embedding of the IG post that Silky does)

[The Italian One]

Mar 12, 2020 19:59:44 GMT 1 GMA said:

Any forum members currently living in Italy?

yes me!
it is not an easy moment over here at the moment.
i live near venice in the north est of italy.
from yesterday we are not allowed to go outside of our house.
if you need to ( grocery, pharmacy or doctor) you need to write an auto certificate with proof you need to go there otherwise if the police stop you will get a 200 eu ticket.
bar , cinema restaurant and every place is closed down. At the moment you are not even  allowed to take a walk outside.

unrealistic situation, hopefully will end soon

[Tobi187]

Mar 13, 2020 9:01:08 GMT 1 The Italian One said:

Mar 12, 2020 19:59:44 GMT 1 GMA said:

Any forum members currently living in Italy?

yes me!
it is not an easy moment over here at the moment.
i live near venice in the north est of italy.
from yesterday we are not allowed to go outside of our house.
if you need to ( grocery, pharmacy or doctor) you need to write an auto certificate with proof you need to go there otherwise if the police stop you will get a 200 eu ticket.
bar , cinema restaurant and every place is closed down. At the moment you are not even  allowed to take a walk outside.

unrealistic situation, hopefully will end soon

Sounds like a nightmare. Please stay safe! Hope this will end soon...

[GMA]

Mar 13, 2020 9:01:08 GMT 1 The Italian One said:

Mar 12, 2020 19:59:44 GMT 1 GMA said:

Any forum members currently living in Italy?

yes me!
it is not an easy moment over here at the moment.
i live near venice in the north est of italy.
from yesterday we are not allowed to go outside of our house.
if you need to ( grocery, pharmacy or doctor) you need to write an auto certificate with proof you need to go there otherwise if the police stop you will get a 200 eu ticket.
bar , cinema restaurant and every place is closed down. At the moment you are not even  allowed to take a walk outside.

unrealistic situation, hopefully will end soon

Awful, I hope it ends soon, it's getting out of hand. 

[The Italian One]

Mar 13, 2020 10:31:38 GMT 1 GMA said:

Mar 13, 2020 9:01:08 GMT 1 The Italian One said:

yes me!
it is not an easy moment over here at the moment.
i live near venice in the north est of italy.
from yesterday we are not allowed to go outside of our house.
if you need to ( grocery, pharmacy or doctor) you need to write an auto certificate with proof you need to go there otherwise if the police stop you will get a 200 eu ticket.
bar , cinema restaurant and every place is closed down. At the moment you are not even  allowed to take a walk outside.

unrealistic situation, hopefully will end soon

Awful, I hope it ends soon, it's getting out of hand. 

we are very proud on how our government is handling this situation,
hopefully if each other will follow the rule and act safe it will end soon.

[Javier]

I think both Italian and my government are reacting late. I don’t know about France and Germany, their growing rate is smaller than ours. And I’m afraid British government is doing things late too. They should already had started making hard things because it’s too late

[Terry Fuckwitt]

So our government want 'herd immunity' to allow around 60% of the UK population to get the virus incase the virus hits stronger in the winter. Around 3% of this number could potentially die, that's about 1.2 million deaths.
Ok, let's carry on, happy days!

[GMA]

I think the British gov need to do more, cancel big events and ban big gatherings. Close down London underground which is like a cesspit and shut down the schools from now until the end of Easter hols.

Businesses can let people work from home.

[trapnel1]

Mar 13, 2020 11:59:50 GMT 1 Mooncub said:

Mar 13, 2020 11:36:22 GMT 1 GMA said:

I think the British gov need to do more, cancel big events and ban big gatherings. Close down London underground which is like a cesspit and shut down the schools from now until the end of Easter hols.

Businesses can let people work from home.

The problem with closing down schools is that parents then inevitably don't turn up for work in order to look after the kids; and that will include parents that work as doctors and nurses and hospital cleaners etc, i.e. people we desperately need at work.  

We also need healthcare workers to be able to get to work, so closing down public transport is not an option either.  

[graeme]

The majority of people are employed in jobs that can’t be undertaken from home.