[miah]

ianneedshelp said:

And would we still be buying Banksy, if he was so ready available......probably not.

really? Why does it have to be hard to get to be awesome? So that we can say "I have a Banksy and you don't"?
If Banksy re-released his Laugh Now print, and everyone had one, I would love mine no less. The only thing that changes about it is that I can't sell it for 10x what I bought it for, which is a non-issue since I was never going to sell it in the first place.
Just like the number of the print doesn't matter, the quantity doesn't really either...
except to the ones making money off of it [Banksy, POW, Ebay flippers, etc...] which is fair enough, but as a fan, I wish everyone had access to his prints. It's a fan-centric, selfish wish that would hurt the sellers pockets, and will never come true, but it's still what I think is in the best interest of the fan.
I don't see how a fan can be apposed to an artist's art being readily available, unless that fan's goal was to sell the art at a profit, or hold an elitist view over those that can't get one of their own. Just my 2 sense, hope it makes cents.

[gordy]

And surely Banksy wouldn't do his street work if he only wanted people with credit cards to see his work ;D ;D

[tomhills1]

miah said:

ianneedshelp said:

And would we still be buying Banksy, if he was so ready available......probably not.

really? Why does it have to be hard to get to be awesome? So that we can say "I have a Banksy and you don't"?
If Banksy re-released his Laugh Now print, and everyone had one, I would love mine no less. The only thing that changes about it is that I can't sell it for 10x what I bought it for, which is a non-issue since I was never going to sell it in the first place.
Just like the number of the print doesn't matter, the quantity doesn't really either...
except to the ones making money off of it [Banksy, POW, Ebay flippers, etc...] which is fair enough, but as a fan, I wish everyone had access to his prints. It's a fan-centric, selfish wish that would hurt the sellers pockets, and will never come true, but it's still what I think is in the best interest of the fan.
I don't see how a fan can be apposed to an artist's art being readily available, unless that fan's goal was to sell the art at a profit, or hold an elitist view over those that can't get one of their own. Just my 2 sense, hope it makes cents.

not just the sellers but those that have paid a lot of money for something because they love it but would rather not see the arse drop out of the market completely. i would get over it though i think, and it would be a small price to pay for being able to get hold of those missing pieces.

[johnerotten]

gordy said:

And surely Banksy wouldn't do his street work if he only wanted people with credit cards to see his work ;D ;D

banksy gives his prints away for free online in small medium and large format jpegs that you can be printed even larger than the limeted series. this is nothing new.

i personally like "Fairytail Cottage" with its Whacko Jacko reference.

check it out: www.banksy.co.uk/shop/images/shop%20small/fairytalecottage.jpg

[johnerotten]

by that logic then it would be ok to copy Picasso's and sell them as original work.

anyone who want's his prints can take them off his website or make poster copies of the one's they want.

what's wrong with having a limeted edition? its no different than comics or coins. this is getting a bit crazy.

i'm not attacking you, i'm just saying...

miah said:

ianneedshelp said:

And would we still be buying Banksy, if he was so ready available......probably not.

really? Why does it have to be hard to get to be awesome? So that we can say "I have a Banksy and you don't"?
If Banksy re-released his Laugh Now print, and everyone had one, I would love mine no less. The only thing that changes about it is that I can't sell it for 10x what I bought it for, which is a non-issue since I was never going to sell it in the first place.
Just like the number of the print doesn't matter, the quantity doesn't really either...
except to the ones making money off of it [Banksy, POW, Ebay flippers, etc...] which is fair enough, but as a fan, I wish everyone had access to his prints. It's a fan-centric, selfish wish that would hurt the sellers pockets, and will never come true, but it's still what I think is in the best interest of the fan.
I don't see how a fan can be apposed to an artist's art being readily available, unless that fan's goal was to sell the art at a profit, or hold an elitist view over those that can't get one of their own. Just my 2 sense, hope it makes cents.

[ThursdayFeeling]

"Fairytail Cottage" is amazing I hope someday he decides to bring that out as a print. Could it be available at Santas Ghetto 2007

[slinkink]

there are a lot of banksy fans out there who aren't on this forum. i am just wondering if this thread would exist at all if everyone on here had been lucky enough to get the print they wanted last week...

[ABC]

I think ebay is only a small part of the market now. Lets face it there are probably lots of stars and bankers out there that want a piece of the Banksy action and if they had them on their walls Im sure they would not tell their friends that they bought them from ebay, not the done thing IMO. People with money in higher places pay people to locate the items they want, IE galleries and not from ebay. Hence galleries like Andipa who normally deal in Hockney, bacon and picasso etc etc decided to buy everything Banksy related for their very wealthy clients that want to be in the in croud. Me I love ebay, even bought the wife there, well thats not quite true.

[craigmccluskey]

theres a sepia print just went up on the bay at fixed price of £4250, greedy bas,

[smashedhat]

Strange that there are no white signed ones but lots of sepias.

[monkeypuzzle]

Maybe because the sepias were more expensive on POW and therefore looked more appealing to the scalper mentality, not thinking that there were only half as many whites ( which weren't the colour of poops ( only saying that as I didnt get one, if I had one it would be the colour of a refreshing cup of coffee, or a mocha skined lovely from the south pacific who had been slowly bronzed by tropical sun and warm oceanic breezes ))
Just a thought.

[dmandpenfold]

I prefer the brace of soapy geisha girls that is the white version

Glad you changed your avatar Monkey Boy, i've spent too much time trying to fathom out the old one, this is much more straight forward

[stuey09]

monkeypuzzle said:

Maybe because the sepias were more expensive on POW and therefore looked more appealing to the scalper mentality, not thinking that there were only half as many whites ( which weren't the colour of poops ( only saying that as I didnt get one, if I had one it would be the colour of a refreshing cup of coffee, or a mocha skined lovely from the south pacific who had been slowly bronzed by tropical sun and warm oceanic breezes ))
Just a thought.

Yes. I like that last thought. Nice Avatar BTW.

[rolyateel]

monkeypuzzle said:

Maybe because the sepias were more expensive on POW and therefore looked more appealing to the scalper mentality, not thinking that there were only half as many whites ( which weren't the colour of poops ( only saying that as I didnt get one, if I had one it would be the colour of a refreshing cup of coffee, or a mocha skined lovely from the south pacific who had been slowly bronzed by tropical sun and warm oceanic breezes ))
Just a thought.

but there are only 300 sepia prints...and 650 white prints (in total) so the image itself (or that colourway of it) is rarer

[Curley]

rolyateel said:

monkeypuzzle said:

Maybe because the sepias were more expensive on POW and therefore looked more appealing to the scalper mentality, not thinking that there were only half as many whites ( which weren't the colour of poops ( only saying that as I didnt get one, if I had one it would be the colour of a refreshing cup of coffee, or a mocha skined lovely from the south pacific who had been slowly bronzed by tropical sun and warm oceanic breezes ))
Just a thought.

but there are only 300 sepia prints...and 650 white prints (in total) so the image itself (or that colourway of it) is rarer

I would have thought it would cost more to produce 300 of the poo colour as opposed to the unit cost of the 650 Blk & White.

IMO Signed Blk & white will be worth more as there are half as many of the sepia and its not the colour of Sh*t.
In fact i have not heard one person on this forum say they were lucky had got a signed B&W

[arcam]

curley said:

rolyateel said:

but there are only 300 sepia prints...and 650 white prints (in total) so the image itself (or that colourway of it) is rarer

I would have thought it would cost more to produce 300 of the poo colour as opposed to the unit cost of the 650 Blk & White.

IMO Signed Blk & white will be worth more as there are half as many of the sepia and its not the colour of Sh*t.
In fact i have not heard one person on this forum say they were lucky had got a signed B&W

I had the option of buying either and chose the Sepia as I felt it sold the 'scene' more. Obviously I can't make a true comparison until I've seen both in the flesh.

[monkeypuzzle]

dmandpenfold said:

I prefer the brace of soapy geisha girls that is the white version

Glad you changed your avatar Monkey Boy, i've spent too much time trying to fathom out the old one, this is much more straight forward

Sorry for the confusion DMandpenfold, the old avatar was a little featured character from 2000AD from years gone by called Bradley, he had a little frien called Milton and they generally caused havok and interviewed strange people.

[manchestermike]

arcam said:

curley said:

I would have thought it would cost more to produce 300 of the poo colour as opposed to the unit cost of the 650 Blk & White.

IMO Signed Blk & white will be worth more as there are half as many of the sepia and its not the colour of Sh*t.
In fact i have not heard one person on this forum say they were lucky had got a signed B&W

I had the option of buying either and chose the Sepia as I felt it sold the 'scene' more. Obviously I can't make a true comparison until I've seen both in the flesh.

I agree here, I thought the Sepia looked better. Had the B/W edition still had the gold frame I may have thought differently

[monkeypuzzle]

rolyateel said:

monkeypuzzle said:

Maybe because the sepias were more expensive on POW and therefore looked more appealing to the scalper mentality, not thinking that there were only half as many whites ( which weren't the colour of poops ( only saying that as I didnt get one, if I had one it would be the colour of a refreshing cup of coffee, or a mocha skined lovely from the south pacific who had been slowly bronzed by tropical sun and warm oceanic breezes ))
Just a thought.

but there are only 300 sepia prints...and 650 white prints (in total) so the image itself (or that colourway of it) is rarer

I was talking about the signed edition royalteel, what self respecting scalper would even consider the unsigned

[dmandpenfold]

that's better can see it now it's bigger, cheers for the explanation, that's the end of sleepless nights now

[arcam]

manchestermike said:

arcam said:

I had the option of buying either and chose the Sepia as I felt it sold the 'scene' more. Obviously I can't make a true comparison until I've seen both in the flesh.

I agree here, I thought the Sepia looked better. Had the B/W edition still had the gold frame I may have thought differently

Yeah I agree.

[dmandpenfold]

curley said:

rolyateel said:

but there are only 300 sepia prints...and 650 white prints (in total) so the image itself (or that colourway of it) is rarer

I would have thought it would cost more to produce 300 of the poo colour as opposed to the unit cost of the 650 Blk & White.

IMO Signed Blk & white will be worth more as there are half as many of the sepia and its not the colour of Sh*t.
In fact i have not heard one person on this forum say they were lucky had got a signed B&W

Curly, your post there has me confused maybe i am reading it wrong or is it a deliberate ploy to confuse dyslexics like me

Can someone clarify the numbers in each run, cant seem to find it on the POW site, they only mention the number of pooh prints.

[monkeypuzzle]

dmandpenfold said:

curley said:

I would have thought it would cost more to produce 300 of the poo colour as opposed to the unit cost of the 650 Blk & White.

IMO Signed Blk & white will be worth more as there are half as many of the sepia and its not the colour of Sh*t.
In fact i have not heard one person on this forum say they were lucky had got a signed B&W

Curly, your post there has me confused maybe i am reading it wrong or is it a deliberate ploy to confuse dyslexics like me

Can someone clarify the numbers in each run, cant seem to find it on the POW site, they only mention the number of pooh prints.

300 sepia signed
150 B&W signed
100 LA unsigned
400 UK unsigned

[dmandpenfold]

cheers for clarifying that MP

when the prints were released i looked at the Sepia and B&W and thought for a minute about the two wondering which way to go sepia or no? It was difficult at first, i couldnt quite get my head around it, perhaps the sepia had some sort of x-factor that i couldnt quite put my finger on.

Then after some thought i dismissed the x-factor idea, woke up to pure economics and bought the less costly print with the shorter print run

......plus the other was poo coloured

[arcam]

dmandpenfold said:

cheers for clarifying that MP

when the prints were released i looked at the Sepia and B&W and thought for a minute about the two wondering which way to go sepia or no? It was difficult at first, i couldnt quite get my head around it, perhaps the sepia had some sort of x-factor that i couldnt quite put my finger on.

Then after some thought i dismissed the x-factor idea, woke up to pure economics and bought the less costly print with the shorter print run

......plus the other was poo coloured

It's a delicate shade of brown.........poo coloured.....tisk..

Just wait until it's framed, it'll look grand on the wall. ;D

[dmandpenfold]

chuckle ;D

[monkeypuzzle]

arcam said:

dmandpenfold said:

cheers for clarifying that MP

when the prints were released i looked at the Sepia and B&W and thought for a minute about the two wondering which way to go sepia or no? It was difficult at first, i couldnt quite get my head around it, perhaps the sepia had some sort of x-factor that i couldnt quite put my finger on.

Then after some thought i dismissed the x-factor idea, woke up to pure economics and bought the less costly print with the shorter print run

......plus the other was poo coloured

It's a delicate shade of brown.........poo coloured.....tisk..

Just wait until it's framed, it'll look grand on the wall. ;D

At least If i had gotten one it wouldnt have clashed with my sh1t coloured sofa

[dmandpenfold]

or lamp shades ;D

[monkeypuzzle]

dmandpenfold said:

or lamp shades ;D

Oi shut-it, that lampshade is class dude ;D

[arcam]

monkeypuzzle said:

arcam said:

It's a delicate shade of brown.........poo coloured.....tisk..

Just wait until it's framed, it'll look grand on the wall. ;D

At least If i had gotten one it wouldnt have clashed with my sh1t coloured sofa

;D