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Why do people like Stik?, by Winter on Jan 4, 2016 15:23:52 GMT 1, Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same.
Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same. |
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Why do people like Stik?, by thomasmer on Jan 4, 2016 15:32:55 GMT 1, Very true, people are quick to throw huge sums of money at artists that have had a couple of half arsed group shows, no auction history and so on.
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Why do people like Stik?, by Coach on Jan 4, 2016 16:28:58 GMT 1, Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same.
This is lovely. I hope it's yours.
I would certainly chose that over a Stik print.
Appreciate that others may not though.
Horses for courses and all that.
Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same. This is lovely. I hope it's yours. I would certainly chose that over a Stik print. Appreciate that others may not though. Horses for courses and all that. |
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Why do people like Stik?, by tartarus on Jan 4, 2016 16:50:18 GMT 1, Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same. This is lovely. I hope it's yours. I would certainly chose that over a Stik print. Appreciate that others may not though. Horses for courses and all that.
Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same. This is lovely. I hope it's yours. I would certainly chose that over a Stik print. Appreciate that others may not though. Horses for courses and all that. Must say i do like that a lot! But id like to have both! |
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Why do people like Stik?, by bone on Jan 4, 2016 16:53:48 GMT 1, Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same.
Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same. Thats the great thing about art, you are free to choose which art you like. Some people don't care if the artist is globally recognized, they like one image over another and want it on their wall. I like the image above, but I usually like more color in my artwork as I think it adds more to the room that it hangs in. |
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Why do people like Stik?, by Coach on Jan 4, 2016 17:09:53 GMT 1, This is lovely. I hope it's yours. I would certainly chose that over a Stik print. Appreciate that others may not though. Horses for courses and all that. Must say i do like that a lot! But id like to have both!
Well if that's an option.......me too!
This is lovely. I hope it's yours. I would certainly chose that over a Stik print. Appreciate that others may not though. Horses for courses and all that. Must say i do like that a lot! But id like to have both! Well if that's an option.......me too! |
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Why do people like Stik?, by natstan on Jan 4, 2016 17:27:51 GMT 1, Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same. Thats the great thing about art, you are free to choose which art you like. Some people don't care if the artist is globally recognized, they like one image over another and want it on their wall. I like the image above, but I usually like more color in my artwork as I think it adds more to the room that it hangs in.
And there you go!
www.julianopie.com/artwork/painting/2003/898
Personally prefer Julian Opie and would choose this (below) by a globally recognised and exhibited artist who has a proven track record and a Stik print which some people on here would value the same. Thats the great thing about art, you are free to choose which art you like. Some people don't care if the artist is globally recognized, they like one image over another and want it on their wall. I like the image above, but I usually like more color in my artwork as I think it adds more to the room that it hangs in. And there you go! www.julianopie.com/artwork/painting/2003/898 |
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Why do people like Stik?, by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 18:04:10 GMT 1, Must say i do like that a lot! But id like to have both! Well if that's an option.......me too!
You greedy gits...stole my answer 
Must say i do like that a lot! But id like to have both! Well if that's an option.......me too! You greedy gits...stole my answer |
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Why do people like Stik?, by Whitefish on Jan 4, 2016 18:24:43 GMT 1, Let us not forget "expensive art" is a subjective and relative term
Let us not forget "expensive art" is a subjective and relative term
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Why do people like Stik?, by nds on Jan 4, 2016 19:26:02 GMT 1, Rather than attempting to defend STIK as a testament to contemporary art for the work he has done for the community or the fact that he does not seem to be influenced by fame, I think is not justification for liking that specific piece or art. Does that not undermine the very reason for buying art itself? I think his work just adds to the confusing of contemporary art. I struggle to appreciate or enjoy a block colour with a few lines on it that represents what I use to draw 1000’s of times over as a child. Despite whether fame does not affect him, or he donates copious amounts of money to charity and saves the planet (exaggerating), it requires no skill or thought to generate that piece. I don’t think the fault is of the artist in anyway it’s the fault of a post-modern society lacking meaning or purpose. Although saying that each to their own that’s art. "Something I drew 1000's of times" Yes but did they look more like this  Since all of us drew these, but in reality is isn't really what Stik is doing now is it! I see it as a weak comparison. I used to draw these as a kid too.  But it doesn't mean I'm capable of painting van Goughs sunflowers now does it
Then what exactly am I missing?
If everyone in their childhood drew similar pictures as you have just demonstrated in reality, but in reality Stik's images are not comparable and therefore the images you drew are a weak comparison. Then what is a strong comparison to his work if children drawing stick figures throughout their childhood are not?
I don’t know are you capable of painting a Van Goghs? Despite Van Gogh heavily influencing the next step into modernist art (that’s an opinion).
I suppose the future shall tell how influential Stik’s work shall become, heck maybe it will inspire many more generations of stick drawings.
Rather than attempting to defend STIK as a testament to contemporary art for the work he has done for the community or the fact that he does not seem to be influenced by fame, I think is not justification for liking that specific piece or art. Does that not undermine the very reason for buying art itself? I think his work just adds to the confusing of contemporary art. I struggle to appreciate or enjoy a block colour with a few lines on it that represents what I use to draw 1000’s of times over as a child. Despite whether fame does not affect him, or he donates copious amounts of money to charity and saves the planet (exaggerating), it requires no skill or thought to generate that piece. I don’t think the fault is of the artist in anyway it’s the fault of a post-modern society lacking meaning or purpose. Although saying that each to their own that’s art. "Something I drew 1000's of times" Yes but did they look more like this Since all of us drew these, but in reality is isn't really what Stik is doing now is it! I see it as a weak comparison. I used to draw these as a kid too. But it doesn't mean I'm capable of painting van Goughs sunflowers now does it I love the flower maybe you’re the next Banksy, slap a blue back ground on that image and I’ll buy it for 50,000 Then what exactly am I missing? If everyone in their childhood drew similar pictures as you have just demonstrated in reality, but in reality Stik's images are not comparable and therefore the images you drew are a weak comparison. Then what is a strong comparison to his work if children drawing stick figures throughout their childhood are not? I don’t know are you capable of painting a Van Goghs? Despite Van Gogh heavily influencing the next step into modernist art (that’s an opinion). I suppose the future shall tell how influential Stik’s work shall become, heck maybe it will inspire many more generations of stick drawings. |
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Why do people like Stik?, by rgc on Jan 4, 2016 19:46:22 GMT 1, Rather than attempting to defend STIK as a testament to contemporary art for the work he has done for the community or the fact that he does not seem to be influenced by fame, I think is not justification for liking that specific piece or art. Does that not undermine the very reason for buying art itself? I think his work just adds to the confusing of contemporary art. I struggle to appreciate or enjoy a block colour with a few lines on it that represents what I use to draw 1000’s of times over as a child. Despite whether fame does not affect him, or he donates copious amounts of money to charity and saves the planet (exaggerating), it requires no skill or thought to generate that piece. I don’t think the fault is of the artist in anyway it’s the fault of a post-modern society lacking meaning or purpose. Although saying that each to their own that’s art. "Something I drew 1000's of times" Yes but did they look more like this Since all of us drew these, but in reality is isn't really what Stik is doing now is it! I see it as a weak comparison. I used to draw these as a kid too. But it doesn't mean I'm capable of painting van Goughs sunflowers now does it
The top image looks as though it hasn't been stored correctly and has considerable damage. I'm assuming this is a HF 1/1 so this may just save it's value on the secondary market??
Rather than attempting to defend STIK as a testament to contemporary art for the work he has done for the community or the fact that he does not seem to be influenced by fame, I think is not justification for liking that specific piece or art. Does that not undermine the very reason for buying art itself? I think his work just adds to the confusing of contemporary art. I struggle to appreciate or enjoy a block colour with a few lines on it that represents what I use to draw 1000’s of times over as a child. Despite whether fame does not affect him, or he donates copious amounts of money to charity and saves the planet (exaggerating), it requires no skill or thought to generate that piece. I don’t think the fault is of the artist in anyway it’s the fault of a post-modern society lacking meaning or purpose. Although saying that each to their own that’s art. "Something I drew 1000's of times" Yes but did they look more like this Since all of us drew these, but in reality is isn't really what Stik is doing now is it! I see it as a weak comparison. I used to draw these as a kid too. But it doesn't mean I'm capable of painting van Goughs sunflowers now does it The top image looks as though it hasn't been stored correctly and has considerable damage. I'm assuming this is a HF 1/1 so this may just save it's value on the secondary market?? |
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Why do people like Stik?, by tartarus on Jan 4, 2016 19:58:56 GMT 1, "Something I drew 1000's of times" Yes but did they look more like this Since all of us drew these, but in reality is isn't really what Stik is doing now is it! I see it as a weak comparison. I used to draw these as a kid too. But it doesn't mean I'm capable of painting van Goughs sunflowers now does it I love the flower maybe you’re the next Banksy, slap a blue back ground on that image and I’ll buy it for 50,000 Then what exactly am I missing? If everyone in their childhood drew similar pictures as you have just demonstrated in reality, but in reality Stik's images are not comparable and therefore the images you drew are a weak comparison. Then what is a strong comparison to his work if children drawing stick figures throughout their childhood are not? I don’t know are you capable of painting a Van Goghs? Despite Van Gogh heavily influencing the next step into modernist art (that’s an opinion). I suppose the future shall tell how influential Stik’s work shall become, heck maybe it will inspire many more generations of stick drawings.
Not really sure how to force a relevant comparison, stik is stik to me. I just don't get that i drew loads comparison when as above, no we didn't, they look nothing like his work.
Wish i could! sadly i even dismembered the stick man and that flower has got to be GMO if you ask me! my art producing skills are low to say the least.
"Something I drew 1000's of times" Yes but did they look more like this Since all of us drew these, but in reality is isn't really what Stik is doing now is it! I see it as a weak comparison. I used to draw these as a kid too. But it doesn't mean I'm capable of painting van Goughs sunflowers now does it I love the flower maybe you’re the next Banksy, slap a blue back ground on that image and I’ll buy it for 50,000 Then what exactly am I missing? If everyone in their childhood drew similar pictures as you have just demonstrated in reality, but in reality Stik's images are not comparable and therefore the images you drew are a weak comparison. Then what is a strong comparison to his work if children drawing stick figures throughout their childhood are not? I don’t know are you capable of painting a Van Goghs? Despite Van Gogh heavily influencing the next step into modernist art (that’s an opinion). I suppose the future shall tell how influential Stik’s work shall become, heck maybe it will inspire many more generations of stick drawings. Would that be sky blue or sea blue sir. And possibly more importantly 50,000 what? Not really sure how to force a relevant comparison, stik is stik to me. I just don't get that i drew loads comparison when as above, no we didn't, they look nothing like his work. Wish i could! sadly i even dismembered the stick man and that flower has got to be GMO if you ask me! my art producing skills are low to say the least. |
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Why do people like Stik?, by tartarus on Jan 4, 2016 20:01:54 GMT 1, "Something I drew 1000's of times" Yes but did they look more like this Since all of us drew these, but in reality is isn't really what Stik is doing now is it! I see it as a weak comparison. I used to draw these as a kid too. But it doesn't mean I'm capable of painting van Goughs sunflowers now does it The top image looks as though it hasn't been stored correctly and has considerable damage. I'm assuming this is a HF 1/1 so this may just save it's value on the secondary market??
"Something I drew 1000's of times" Yes but did they look more like this Since all of us drew these, but in reality is isn't really what Stik is doing now is it! I see it as a weak comparison. I used to draw these as a kid too. But it doesn't mean I'm capable of painting van Goughs sunflowers now does it The top image looks as though it hasn't been stored correctly and has considerable damage. I'm assuming this is a HF 1/1 so this may just save it's value on the secondary market?? There on the same piece of paper. So its a bit like buying a Banksy J&J and finding a rude copper on the back! Except there both on the front on mine. Saves on double glass framing and flipping it round time. Same price signed or unsigned, i like to give back to the fans :-) |
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Why do people like Stik?, by .dappy on Jan 4, 2016 20:04:30 GMT 1,
... it's not singed ... and definatley not mint ... I'M OUT! 
... it's not singed ... and definatley not mint ... I'M OUT! |
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Why do people like Stik?, by rgc on Jan 4, 2016 20:08:14 GMT 1, Will have to pass on this as I don't have the funds, GLWTS though. If I see this in the auction houses or on eBay for £10 in a few years I know I will be kicking myself.
Will have to pass on this as I don't have the funds, GLWTS though. If I see this in the auction houses or on eBay for £10 in a few years I know I will be kicking myself.
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Why do people like Stik?, by nds on Jan 4, 2016 20:08:39 GMT 1,
well as the saying goes... retrospectively speaking here, 'you can polish a turd, but it's still a turd'.
well as the saying goes... retrospectively speaking here, 'you can polish a turd, but it's still a turd'.
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tartarus
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Why do people like Stik?, by tartarus on Jan 4, 2016 20:15:46 GMT 1, well as the saying goes... retrospectively speaking here, 'you can polish a turd, but it's still a turd'.
well as the saying goes... retrospectively speaking here, 'you can polish a turd, but it's still a turd'. Cant help but think that polishing turds is something i want someone else to demonstrate. |
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Why do people like Stik?, by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 20:21:16 GMT 1, tartarus I just realized that if you overlap your two drawings you get an instant Takashi Murakami.
tartarus I just realized that if you overlap your two drawings you get an instant Takashi Murakami.
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Why do people like Stik?, by rgc on Jan 4, 2016 20:22:12 GMT 1, ... it's not singed ... and definatley not mint ... I'M OUT!
Interesting you are looking for a print which is burn't superficially or slightly scorched???
... it's not singed ... and definatley not mint ... I'M OUT! Interesting you are looking for a print which is burn't superficially or slightly scorched??? |
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Why do people like Stik?, by 11 on Jan 4, 2016 20:26:12 GMT 1, Singed = long-running joke, started by a quirky frenchman as i recall
Singed = long-running joke, started by a quirky frenchman as i recall
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Why do people like Stik?, by nds on Jan 4, 2016 20:29:31 GMT 1, well as the saying goes... retrospectively speaking here, 'you can polish a turd, but it's still a turd'. Cant help but think that polishing turds is something i want someone else to demonstrate.
Thank God I said retrospectively
well as the saying goes... retrospectively speaking here, 'you can polish a turd, but it's still a turd'. Cant help but think that polishing turds is something i want someone else to demonstrate. Well if hard evidence is what you need Tartarus..... *grabs camera and some Mr Sheen- multi surface polish, 'offering an effective way to clean a multitude of tough surfaces from metals, woods to turds'* quote Thank God I said retrospectively |
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Why do people like Stik?, by 11 on Jan 4, 2016 20:36:21 GMT 1, Has anyone considered that Stik doesn't strive for recognition or success and therefore any and all success he has achieved has been based on the way his work has been received. This has been without a PR team or any other support so whilst individuals may not like his work it does not mean his work is crap.
Stik developed his own style of stick men and over time they have become more refined but the purpose of these characters was not to show-out to the wider world about his art - they were his way of dealing with his life and circumstances at the time. It is well documented how he used these figures as companions and as a comfort when he had no control of his life so I feel he is being judged rather harshly.
Stik does his thang and will continue to do so regardless of success and without forcing it down our throats - the question was why is he so popular but seems to have turned into whether you personally like him or not.....and how good you were at art
Has anyone considered that Stik doesn't strive for recognition or success and therefore any and all success he has achieved has been based on the way his work has been received. This has been without a PR team or any other support so whilst individuals may not like his work it does not mean his work is crap.
Stik developed his own style of stick men and over time they have become more refined but the purpose of these characters was not to show-out to the wider world about his art - they were his way of dealing with his life and circumstances at the time. It is well documented how he used these figures as companions and as a comfort when he had no control of his life so I feel he is being judged rather harshly.
Stik does his thang and will continue to do so regardless of success and without forcing it down our throats - the question was why is he so popular but seems to have turned into whether you personally like him or not.....and how good you were at art
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Why do people like Stik?, by saucyjack on Jan 4, 2016 20:59:04 GMT 1, Has anyone considered that Stik doesn't strive for recognition or success and therefore any and all success he has achieved has been based on the way his work has been received. This has been without a PR team or any other support so whilst individuals may not like his work it does not mean his work is crap. Stik developed his own style of stick men and over time they have become more refined but the purpose of these characters was not to show-out to the wider world about his art - they were his way of dealing with his life and circumstances at the time. It is well documented how he used these figures as companions and as a comfort when he had no control of his life so I feel he is being judged rather harshly. Stik does his thang and will continue to do so regardless of success and without forcing it down our throats - the question was why is he so popular but seems to have turned into whether you personally like him or not.....and how good you were at art
You insinuation that the artist STIK has no "PR team or any other support" is patently false. There is clearly a PR campaign in effect, though it is well disguised as "news." I am sure you know how the media works in the new economy, and how the industry has morphed over the years. Let's look at two examples:
1) From 2014, "Copyright Settlement for Street Artist Stik"
www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-28754656
This clearly demonstrates great care is being taken to protect the Stik brand. If you genuinely believe the artist known as Stik used his own resources to take a very deep-pocked company to court, I have a piece of property you may be interested in.
2) From 2013, "Street Artist Stik Gives Away Posters of his Art in the Big Issue Magazine"
hollywardpr.co.uk/blog/2013/03/street-artist-stik-gives-away-posters-of-his-art-in-the-big-issue-magazine/
The most telling part about this article is the last bit:
"The use of celebrity endorsement coupled with the authentic desire to contribute to a cause he believes in makes this a winning PR campaign. Interesting an advertising agency stumped up the cash for the project but they seem to have remained nameless in some of the news reports."
I could go on, if you like...
Has anyone considered that Stik doesn't strive for recognition or success and therefore any and all success he has achieved has been based on the way his work has been received. This has been without a PR team or any other support so whilst individuals may not like his work it does not mean his work is crap. Stik developed his own style of stick men and over time they have become more refined but the purpose of these characters was not to show-out to the wider world about his art - they were his way of dealing with his life and circumstances at the time. It is well documented how he used these figures as companions and as a comfort when he had no control of his life so I feel he is being judged rather harshly. Stik does his thang and will continue to do so regardless of success and without forcing it down our throats - the question was why is he so popular but seems to have turned into whether you personally like him or not.....and how good you were at art I've considered it, but at the end of the day, I don't believe it. You insinuation that the artist STIK has no "PR team or any other support" is patently false. There is clearly a PR campaign in effect, though it is well disguised as "news." I am sure you know how the media works in the new economy, and how the industry has morphed over the years. Let's look at two examples: 1) From 2014, "Copyright Settlement for Street Artist Stik" www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-28754656This clearly demonstrates great care is being taken to protect the Stik brand. If you genuinely believe the artist known as Stik used his own resources to take a very deep-pocked company to court, I have a piece of property you may be interested in. 2) From 2013, "Street Artist Stik Gives Away Posters of his Art in the Big Issue Magazine" hollywardpr.co.uk/blog/2013/03/street-artist-stik-gives-away-posters-of-his-art-in-the-big-issue-magazine/The most telling part about this article is the last bit: "The use of celebrity endorsement coupled with the authentic desire to contribute to a cause he believes in makes this a winning PR campaign. Interesting an advertising agency stumped up the cash for the project but they seem to have remained nameless in some of the news reports."I could go on, if you like... |
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Why do people like Stik?, by 11 on Jan 4, 2016 21:05:59 GMT 1, Has anyone considered that Stik doesn't strive for recognition or success and therefore any and all success he has achieved has been based on the way his work has been received. This has been without a PR team or any other support so whilst individuals may not like his work it does not mean his work is crap. Stik developed his own style of stick men and over time they have become more refined but the purpose of these characters was not to show-out to the wider world about his art - they were his way of dealing with his life and circumstances at the time. It is well documented how he used these figures as companions and as a comfort when he had no control of his life so I feel he is being judged rather harshly. Stik does his thang and will continue to do so regardless of success and without forcing it down our throats - the question was why is he so popular but seems to have turned into whether you personally like him or not.....and how good you were at art I've considered it, but at the end of the day, I don't believe it. You insinuation that the artist STIK has no "PR team or any other support" is patently false. There is clearly a PR campaign in effect, though it is well disguised as "news." I am sure you know how the media works in the new economy, and how the industry has morphed over the years. Let's look at two examples: 1) From 2014, "Copyright Settlement for Street Artist Stik" www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-28754656This clearly demonstrates great care is being taken to protect the Stik brand. If you genuinely believe the artist known as Stik used his own resources to take a very deep-pocked company to court, I have a piece of property you may be interested in. 2) From 2013, "Street Artist Stik Gives Away Posters of his Art in the Big Issue Magazine" hollywardpr.co.uk/blog/2013/03/street-artist-stik-gives-away-posters-of-his-art-in-the-big-issue-magazine/The most telling part about this article is the last bit: "The use of celebrity endorsement coupled with the authentic desire to contribute to a cause he believes in makes this a winning PR campaign. Interesting an advertising agency stumped up the cash for the project but they seem to have remained nameless in some of the news reports."I could go on, if you like...
Has anyone considered that Stik doesn't strive for recognition or success and therefore any and all success he has achieved has been based on the way his work has been received. This has been without a PR team or any other support so whilst individuals may not like his work it does not mean his work is crap. Stik developed his own style of stick men and over time they have become more refined but the purpose of these characters was not to show-out to the wider world about his art - they were his way of dealing with his life and circumstances at the time. It is well documented how he used these figures as companions and as a comfort when he had no control of his life so I feel he is being judged rather harshly. Stik does his thang and will continue to do so regardless of success and without forcing it down our throats - the question was why is he so popular but seems to have turned into whether you personally like him or not.....and how good you were at art I've considered it, but at the end of the day, I don't believe it. You insinuation that the artist STIK has no "PR team or any other support" is patently false. There is clearly a PR campaign in effect, though it is well disguised as "news." I am sure you know how the media works in the new economy, and how the industry has morphed over the years. Let's look at two examples: 1) From 2014, "Copyright Settlement for Street Artist Stik" www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-28754656This clearly demonstrates great care is being taken to protect the Stik brand. If you genuinely believe the artist known as Stik used his own resources to take a very deep-pocked company to court, I have a piece of property you may be interested in. 2) From 2013, "Street Artist Stik Gives Away Posters of his Art in the Big Issue Magazine" hollywardpr.co.uk/blog/2013/03/street-artist-stik-gives-away-posters-of-his-art-in-the-big-issue-magazine/The most telling part about this article is the last bit: "The use of celebrity endorsement coupled with the authentic desire to contribute to a cause he believes in makes this a winning PR campaign. Interesting an advertising agency stumped up the cash for the project but they seem to have remained nameless in some of the news reports."I could go on, if you like... No, no need |
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tartarus
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Why do people like Stik?, by tartarus on Jan 4, 2016 21:23:56 GMT 1, Has anyone considered that Stik doesn't strive for recognition or success and therefore any and all success he has achieved has been based on the way his work has been received. This has been without a PR team or any other support so whilst individuals may not like his work it does not mean his work is crap. Stik developed his own style of stick men and over time they have become more refined but the purpose of these characters was not to show-out to the wider world about his art - they were his way of dealing with his life and circumstances at the time. It is well documented how he used these figures as companions and as a comfort when he had no control of his life so I feel he is being judged rather harshly. Stik does his thang and will continue to do so regardless of success and without forcing it down our throats - the question was why is he so popular but seems to have turned into whether you personally like him or not.....and how good you were at art I've considered it, but at the end of the day, I don't believe it. You insinuation that the artist STIK has no "PR team or any other support" is patently false. There is clearly a PR campaign in effect, though it is well disguised as "news." I am sure you know how the media works in the new economy, and how the industry has morphed over the years. Let's look at two examples: 1) From 2014, "Copyright Settlement for Street Artist Stik" www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-28754656This clearly demonstrates great care is being taken to protect the Stik brand. If you genuinely believe the artist known as Stik used his own resources to take a very deep-pocked company to court, I have a piece of property you may be interested in. 2) From 2013, "Street Artist Stik Gives Away Posters of his Art in the Big Issue Magazine" hollywardpr.co.uk/blog/2013/03/street-artist-stik-gives-away-posters-of-his-art-in-the-big-issue-magazine/The most telling part about this article is the last bit: "The use of celebrity endorsement coupled with the authentic desire to contribute to a cause he believes in makes this a winning PR campaign. Interesting an advertising agency stumped up the cash for the project but they seem to have remained nameless in some of the news reports."I could go on, if you like...
What PR company paid for it? I had a feeling i read he paid for the big issue stuff from the money he got from the previously mentioned Intelectual property issue. So did they pay it direct to the big issue deal?
Seems an awful lot of emphasis is being put on explaining this as PR, when for any other artist its just stuff that happens during their career.
Has anyone considered that Stik doesn't strive for recognition or success and therefore any and all success he has achieved has been based on the way his work has been received. This has been without a PR team or any other support so whilst individuals may not like his work it does not mean his work is crap. Stik developed his own style of stick men and over time they have become more refined but the purpose of these characters was not to show-out to the wider world about his art - they were his way of dealing with his life and circumstances at the time. It is well documented how he used these figures as companions and as a comfort when he had no control of his life so I feel he is being judged rather harshly. Stik does his thang and will continue to do so regardless of success and without forcing it down our throats - the question was why is he so popular but seems to have turned into whether you personally like him or not.....and how good you were at art I've considered it, but at the end of the day, I don't believe it. You insinuation that the artist STIK has no "PR team or any other support" is patently false. There is clearly a PR campaign in effect, though it is well disguised as "news." I am sure you know how the media works in the new economy, and how the industry has morphed over the years. Let's look at two examples: 1) From 2014, "Copyright Settlement for Street Artist Stik" www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-28754656This clearly demonstrates great care is being taken to protect the Stik brand. If you genuinely believe the artist known as Stik used his own resources to take a very deep-pocked company to court, I have a piece of property you may be interested in. 2) From 2013, "Street Artist Stik Gives Away Posters of his Art in the Big Issue Magazine" hollywardpr.co.uk/blog/2013/03/street-artist-stik-gives-away-posters-of-his-art-in-the-big-issue-magazine/The most telling part about this article is the last bit: "The use of celebrity endorsement coupled with the authentic desire to contribute to a cause he believes in makes this a winning PR campaign. Interesting an advertising agency stumped up the cash for the project but they seem to have remained nameless in some of the news reports."I could go on, if you like... firstly, protecting his intellectual property is his right as much as anyones. second, that is not a PR campaign, its protecting intellectual property. What PR company paid for it? I had a feeling i read he paid for the big issue stuff from the money he got from the previously mentioned Intelectual property issue. So did they pay it direct to the big issue deal? Seems an awful lot of emphasis is being put on explaining this as PR, when for any other artist its just stuff that happens during their career. |
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Trismanco
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Why do people like Stik?, by Trismanco on Jan 4, 2016 21:29:46 GMT 1, Why do people like Stik? is perhaps a loaded question... as clearly lots of people do and don't
I find Stik's work a bit wooden, badly drawn and colours too basic but I understand the intension is that it's deliberately crude and meant to be cheerful even if doesn't appeal to me personally.
I'm not against simple designs but I prefer work with a bit more funk and flair - such as Chanoir, Pez, Mr Andre, London Police, Keith Haring - all of those dudes I find much more artistic and more fun...
All power to the artist for expressing himself though and enjoying it.
Why do people like Stik? is perhaps a loaded question... as clearly lots of people do and don't I find Stik's work a bit wooden, badly drawn and colours too basic but I understand the intension is that it's deliberately crude and meant to be cheerful even if doesn't appeal to me personally. I'm not against simple designs but I prefer work with a bit more funk and flair - such as Chanoir, Pez, Mr Andre, London Police, Keith Haring - all of those dudes I find much more artistic and more fun... All power to the artist for expressing himself though and enjoying it. |
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FЯ
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Why do people like Stik?, by FЯ on Jan 4, 2016 21:31:22 GMT 1, When stik needs to hire a rig to paint, he sells an original.
i think thats fair.
no pr team or money goes anywhere apart from street work.
anything else is made up bullshit.
When stik needs to hire a rig to paint, he sells an original.
i think thats fair.
no pr team or money goes anywhere apart from street work.
anything else is made up bullshit.
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saucyjack
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Why do people like Stik?, by saucyjack on Jan 4, 2016 21:36:28 GMT 1, Tartarus, you memory is incorrect. The Big Issue deal was paid for by an "anonymous" advertising agency, not the funds Stik received as a result of his lawsuit. I can provide more information, if you like.
Secondly, I was simply disputing the claim that Stik is not smartly utilizing a PR campaign to increase the visibility and viability of his brand. I'm not saying it is wrong, I am just saying it is being done.
Thirdly, can you remember a time Banksy sued anyone for stealing "his" intellectual property? Banksy probably feels any publicity is good publicity in the sense that the more people see it, the more powerful the brand becomes.
Tartarus, you memory is incorrect. The Big Issue deal was paid for by an "anonymous" advertising agency, not the funds Stik received as a result of his lawsuit. I can provide more information, if you like.
Secondly, I was simply disputing the claim that Stik is not smartly utilizing a PR campaign to increase the visibility and viability of his brand. I'm not saying it is wrong, I am just saying it is being done.
Thirdly, can you remember a time Banksy sued anyone for stealing "his" intellectual property? Banksy probably feels any publicity is good publicity in the sense that the more people see it, the more powerful the brand becomes.
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tartarus
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Why do people like Stik?, by tartarus on Jan 4, 2016 21:41:06 GMT 1, Tartarus, you memory is incorrect. The Big Issue deal was paid for by an "anonymous" advertising agency, not the funds Stik received as a result of his lawsuit. I can provide more information, if you like. Secondly, I was simply disputing the claim that Stik is not smartly utilizing a PR campaign to increase the visibility and viability of his brand. I'm not saying it is wrong, I am just saying it is being done. Thirdly, can you remember a time Banksy sued anyone for stealing "his" intellectual property? Banksy probably feels any publicity is good publicity in the sense that the more people see it, the more powerful the brand becomes.
Any proof of that? or are you just saying it so we are to believe it?
Thats quite difficult when you want to remain anonymous is it not?
Tartarus, you memory is incorrect. The Big Issue deal was paid for by an "anonymous" advertising agency, not the funds Stik received as a result of his lawsuit. I can provide more information, if you like. Secondly, I was simply disputing the claim that Stik is not smartly utilizing a PR campaign to increase the visibility and viability of his brand. I'm not saying it is wrong, I am just saying it is being done. Thirdly, can you remember a time Banksy sued anyone for stealing "his" intellectual property? Banksy probably feels any publicity is good publicity in the sense that the more people see it, the more powerful the brand becomes. yes, lets see the more information. Any proof of that? or are you just saying it so we are to believe it? Thats quite difficult when you want to remain anonymous is it not? |
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saucyjack
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Why do people like Stik?, by saucyjack on Jan 4, 2016 21:41:46 GMT 1, Applies here, I think...
"People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.
You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.
Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.
– Banksy"
Applies here, I think...
"People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.
You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.
Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.
– Banksy"
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