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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by carlito on May 16, 2008 12:50:26 GMT 1, how is he well known though? through a forum or hitting spots where banksy has done before. infamous? Visit to London and take a look  don't just believe the crap other people say. He must be the most prolific stencil artist by far! 
prolific unfortunately doesn't make him good...I see his stuff everyyday
how is he well known though? through a forum or hitting spots where banksy has done before. infamous? Visit to London and take a look don't just believe the crap other people say. He must be the most prolific stencil artist by far! prolific unfortunately doesn't make him good...I see his stuff everyyday |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by jynormous on May 16, 2008 12:54:02 GMT 1, I must say that im very dissapointed with these too.
Not only the images, but the price to match.
For me, Β£250 is far to high for an artists first release!
I must say that im very dissapointed with these too.
Not only the images, but the price to match.
For me, Β£250 is far to high for an artists first release!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by bobbyt23 on May 16, 2008 12:56:56 GMT 1, Overpriced re-hashed rubbish.
Sorry could try harder!
Overpriced re-hashed rubbish.
Sorry could try harder!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by paulypaul on May 16, 2008 12:57:00 GMT 1, Great to see Cartrain now getting exposure at galleries, and not just UK ones too! ;D This is just the start for a very young artist, but who is already much more well known than any other artist of his generation. Certainly one for the future 
Are you doing his mam?
Great to see Cartrain now getting exposure at galleries, and not just UK ones too! ;D This is just the start for a very young artist, but who is already much more well known than any other artist of his generation. Certainly one for the future Are you doing his mam? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by rillo on May 16, 2008 12:57:28 GMT 1,
not by account of his street work that's for sure
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by buffin on May 16, 2008 12:58:47 GMT 1, Dave the Chump ain't gonna like those bombs!
Dave the Chump ain't gonna like those bombs!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Fragile on May 16, 2008 13:00:50 GMT 1, come on, the guy is only 16 years old! give the kid a chance.
come on, the guy is only 16 years old! give the kid a chance.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by mcnuts on May 16, 2008 13:03:50 GMT 1, Dave the Chump ain't gonna like those bombs!
lol
Dave the Chump ain't gonna like those bombs! lol |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by spirit on May 16, 2008 13:06:08 GMT 1, come on, the guy is only 16 years old! give the kid a chance.
I've been waiting for that line...
I honestly believe that the best thing we can do for this kid is to tell it like it is. Hopefully he will then go and have a long hard think and possibly, just possibly, come back with something worthwhile.
come on, the guy is only 16 years old! give the kid a chance. I've been waiting for that line... I honestly believe that the best thing we can do for this kid is to tell it like it is. Hopefully he will then go and have a long hard think and possibly, just possibly, come back with something worthwhile. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by darjeeling on May 16, 2008 13:07:03 GMT 1, He must be the most prolific stencil artist by far!
sorry to hear
He must be the most prolific stencil artist by far! sorry to hear |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by rillo on May 16, 2008 13:07:13 GMT 1, 
Each canvas is limited edition of 5. Signed and numbered by the artist. Size 60x66 cm. Price Β£250+p&p.
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100 artworks, care to justify your pricing of these? quoting the above for prosperity
Each canvas is limited edition of 5. Signed and numbered by the artist. Size 60x66 cm. Price Β£250+p&p. [/quote] 100 artworks, care to justify your pricing of these? quoting the above for prosperity |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by streetgirl on May 16, 2008 13:13:55 GMT 1, I usually try and steer clear of negative comments - opting with the 'nothing nice to say don't say it at all attitude' however, feel there is a need for constructive criticism.
The kid may have some talent, but let's not over-state this. A long way to go in improving and perhaps a deal to sell canvasses for him should have come a little further down the line.
I certainly don't think these are anywhere good enough to be sold/touted at Β£250 a pop.
You see the difference in quality when you look at these and Grafter's 'charity' canvas.
And before you tell me how old Cartrain is, it's irrelevant now that he/galleries are saying he's good enough to compete with others and sell pieces at these prices.
I usually try and steer clear of negative comments - opting with the 'nothing nice to say don't say it at all attitude' however, feel there is a need for constructive criticism.
The kid may have some talent, but let's not over-state this. A long way to go in improving and perhaps a deal to sell canvasses for him should have come a little further down the line.
I certainly don't think these are anywhere good enough to be sold/touted at Β£250 a pop.
You see the difference in quality when you look at these and Grafter's 'charity' canvas.
And before you tell me how old Cartrain is, it's irrelevant now that he/galleries are saying he's good enough to compete with others and sell pieces at these prices.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Montubu7 on May 16, 2008 13:20:57 GMT 1, I usually try and steer clear of negative comments - opting with the 'nothing nice to say don't say it at all attitude' however, feel there is a need for constructive criticism. The kid may have some talent, but let's not over-state this. A long way to go in improving and perhaps a deal to sell canvasses for him should have come a little further down the line. I certainly don't think these are anywhere good enough to be sold/touted at Β£250 a pop. You see the difference in quality when you look at these and Grafter's 'charity' canvas. And before you tell me how old Cartrain is, it's irrelevant now that he/galleries are saying he's good enough to compete with others and sell pieces at these prices.
Nice post . x
I usually try and steer clear of negative comments - opting with the 'nothing nice to say don't say it at all attitude' however, feel there is a need for constructive criticism. The kid may have some talent, but let's not over-state this. A long way to go in improving and perhaps a deal to sell canvasses for him should have come a little further down the line. I certainly don't think these are anywhere good enough to be sold/touted at Β£250 a pop. You see the difference in quality when you look at these and Grafter's 'charity' canvas. And before you tell me how old Cartrain is, it's irrelevant now that he/galleries are saying he's good enough to compete with others and sell pieces at these prices. Nice post . x |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by jed100375 on May 16, 2008 13:24:19 GMT 1, Don't like em at all
Don't like em at all
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by spirit on May 16, 2008 13:24:53 GMT 1, I usually try and steer clear of negative comments - opting with the 'nothing nice to say don't say it at all attitude' however, feel there is a need for constructive criticism. The kid may have some talent, but let's not over-state this. A long way to go in improving and perhaps a deal to sell canvasses for him should have come a little further down the line. I certainly don't think these are anywhere good enough to be sold/touted at Β£250 a pop. You see the difference in quality when you look at these and Grafter's 'charity' canvas. And before you tell me how old Cartrain is, it's irrelevant now that he/galleries are saying he's good enough to compete with others and sell pieces at these prices. Nice post . x
Agreed. Made me go back and edit some of my previous comments as that summed it all up really.
I usually try and steer clear of negative comments - opting with the 'nothing nice to say don't say it at all attitude' however, feel there is a need for constructive criticism. The kid may have some talent, but let's not over-state this. A long way to go in improving and perhaps a deal to sell canvasses for him should have come a little further down the line. I certainly don't think these are anywhere good enough to be sold/touted at Β£250 a pop. You see the difference in quality when you look at these and Grafter's 'charity' canvas. And before you tell me how old Cartrain is, it's irrelevant now that he/galleries are saying he's good enough to compete with others and sell pieces at these prices. Nice post . x Agreed. Made me go back and edit some of my previous comments as that summed it all up really. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by seidbereit on May 16, 2008 13:26:54 GMT 1, Very well said, streetgirl. There's not a single point or opinion there that i don't agree with, from the talent (raw as it is), to the pricing to the timing.
There are several other artists offering work in the same approx. price bracket, Grafter being one, although you could name Dog-Byte, SPQR and many others in the same breath, with the vital difference being the originality of the others and their technical ability and attention to execution. I mean, if you look closely at the lollipop lady one (in fact you don't really have to look that close), the sign which should be round has hints of little corners, for 250 pounds that should not be the quality on offer.
Very well said, streetgirl. There's not a single point or opinion there that i don't agree with, from the talent (raw as it is), to the pricing to the timing.
There are several other artists offering work in the same approx. price bracket, Grafter being one, although you could name Dog-Byte, SPQR and many others in the same breath, with the vital difference being the originality of the others and their technical ability and attention to execution. I mean, if you look closely at the lollipop lady one (in fact you don't really have to look that close), the sign which should be round has hints of little corners, for 250 pounds that should not be the quality on offer.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by carlito on May 16, 2008 13:29:45 GMT 1, really like breathless - well done copyright
really like breathless - well done copyright
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alcat82 on May 16, 2008 13:34:00 GMT 1, He's nicked my avatar!
He's nicked my avatar!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Montubu7 on May 16, 2008 13:34:24 GMT 1, I should add its fair play to cartrain getting his work out on the street at such an early age but think he needs to hone his style & skill out there before doing deals with galleries to sell work @ a premium price.
Its worth mentioning that SPQR started slowly with much cheaper work and as he worked his skills up & built a fanbase his prices only increased in line with what people were willing to pay, i cannot see the market for this work at this price.
Cartrain could very well growinto something special but i think he needs to use the street as his artbook a little while longer & getting his stuff up away from banksy street work should really be a must!
I should add its fair play to cartrain getting his work out on the street at such an early age but think he needs to hone his style & skill out there before doing deals with galleries to sell work @ a premium price.
Its worth mentioning that SPQR started slowly with much cheaper work and as he worked his skills up & built a fanbase his prices only increased in line with what people were willing to pay, i cannot see the market for this work at this price.
Cartrain could very well growinto something special but i think he needs to use the street as his artbook a little while longer & getting his stuff up away from banksy street work should really be a must!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by dmandpenfold on May 16, 2008 14:31:10 GMT 1, how is he well known though? through a forum or hitting spots where banksy has done before. infamous? Visit to London and take a look don't just believe the crap other people say. He must be the most prolific stencil artist by far!
isnt he your nephew silky?
how is he well known though? through a forum or hitting spots where banksy has done before. infamous? Visit to London and take a look don't just believe the crap other people say. He must be the most prolific stencil artist by far! isnt he your nephew silky? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by eddiedangerous on May 16, 2008 14:34:21 GMT 1, Dave the Chump ain't gonna like those bombs!
pmsl!!!
could understand the issue until i re-read Β£25 as Β£250 then choked on my own tongue.
no worries over the art itself, but lets get reasonable Β£100 a pop for the canvas, i mean at Β£250 as canvas what are you gonna ask for a print...Β£125...I think not, not yet anyway!!
Dave the Chump ain't gonna like those bombs! pmsl!!! could understand the issue until i re-read Β£25 as Β£250 then choked on my own tongue. no worries over the art itself, but lets get reasonable Β£100 a pop for the canvas, i mean at Β£250 as canvas what are you gonna ask for a print...Β£125...I think not, not yet anyway!! |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Daniel Silk on May 16, 2008 14:36:09 GMT 1, Visit to London and take a look don't just believe the crap other people say. He must be the most prolific stencil artist by far! isnt he your nephew silky?
Yep, Cartrain's my nephew, Banksy's my uncle, Eine's my Brother, and Tracey Emin's my sister ;D 
Visit to London and take a look don't just believe the crap other people say. He must be the most prolific stencil artist by far! isnt he your nephew silky? Yep, Cartrain's my nephew, Banksy's my uncle, Eine's my Brother, and Tracey Emin's my sister ;D |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by dmandpenfold on May 16, 2008 14:40:00 GMT 1, isnt he your nephew silky? Yep, Cartrain's my nephew, Banksy's my uncle, Eine's my Brother, and Tracey Emin's my sister ;D
just remember cartrain posting something along those lines early on...now if banksy's your uncle can you get him to spray a bit more up my way, a couple of stencils in Glasgow just doesnt cut the mustard
isnt he your nephew silky? Yep, Cartrain's my nephew, Banksy's my uncle, Eine's my Brother, and Tracey Emin's my sister ;D just remember cartrain posting something along those lines early on...now if banksy's your uncle can you get him to spray a bit more up my way, a couple of stencils in Glasgow just doesnt cut the mustard |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by carlito on May 16, 2008 15:07:36 GMT 1, I should add its fair play to cartrain getting his work out on the street at such an early age but think he needs to hone his style & skill out there before doing deals with galleries to sell work @ a premium price. Its worth mentioning that SPQR started slowly with much cheaper work and as he worked his skills up & built a fanbase his prices only increased in line with what people were willing to pay, i cannot see the market for this work at this price. Cartrain could very well growinto something special but i think he needs to use the street as his artbook a little while longer & getting his stuff up away from banksy street work should really be a must!
wise words Monty
I should add its fair play to cartrain getting his work out on the street at such an early age but think he needs to hone his style & skill out there before doing deals with galleries to sell work @ a premium price. Its worth mentioning that SPQR started slowly with much cheaper work and as he worked his skills up & built a fanbase his prices only increased in line with what people were willing to pay, i cannot see the market for this work at this price. Cartrain could very well growinto something special but i think he needs to use the street as his artbook a little while longer & getting his stuff up away from banksy street work should really be a must! wise words Monty |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by nixon451 on May 16, 2008 15:09:34 GMT 1, I usually try and steer clear of negative comments - opting with the 'nothing nice to say don't say it at all attitude' however, feel there is a need for constructive criticism. The kid may have some talent, but let's not over-state this. A long way to go in improving and perhaps a deal to sell canvasses for him should have come a little further down the line. I certainly don't think these are anywhere good enough to be sold/touted at Β£250 a pop. You see the difference in quality when you look at these and Grafter's 'charity' canvas. And before you tell me how old Cartrain is, it's irrelevant now that he/galleries are saying he's good enough to compete with others and sell pieces at these prices.
Well said. This is a far better post than what I was going to write.
I usually try and steer clear of negative comments - opting with the 'nothing nice to say don't say it at all attitude' however, feel there is a need for constructive criticism. The kid may have some talent, but let's not over-state this. A long way to go in improving and perhaps a deal to sell canvasses for him should have come a little further down the line. I certainly don't think these are anywhere good enough to be sold/touted at Β£250 a pop. You see the difference in quality when you look at these and Grafter's 'charity' canvas. And before you tell me how old Cartrain is, it's irrelevant now that he/galleries are saying he's good enough to compete with others and sell pieces at these prices. Well said. This is a far better post than what I was going to write. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by nixon451 on May 16, 2008 15:18:06 GMT 1, Question:
Didn't there used to be a Hutch Forum advertised above in in the bundle of Silky world forums? Where did it go?
Question:
Didn't there used to be a Hutch Forum advertised above in in the bundle of Silky world forums? Where did it go?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Daniel Silk on May 16, 2008 15:19:36 GMT 1, Question: Didn't there used to be a Hutch Forum advertised above in in the bundle of Silky world forums? Where did it go?
Never been a Hutch forum.
Question: Didn't there used to be a Hutch Forum advertised above in in the bundle of Silky world forums? Where did it go? Never been a Hutch forum. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by nixon451 on May 16, 2008 15:27:47 GMT 1, Question: Didn't there used to be a Hutch Forum advertised above in in the bundle of Silky world forums? Where did it go? Never been a Hutch forum.
I stand corrected.
Question: Didn't there used to be a Hutch Forum advertised above in in the bundle of Silky world forums? Where did it go? Never been a Hutch forum. I stand corrected. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by streetgirl on May 16, 2008 15:29:19 GMT 1, As a Car Train advocate Silky, honest answer -
Do you think these stand worthy at Β£250?
As a Car Train advocate Silky, honest answer -
Do you think these stand worthy at Β£250?
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