jamesreeve5
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by jamesreeve5 on Dec 13, 2007 19:54:50 GMT 1, FANTASTIC THREAD, GOOD COMMUNICATION WOULD READ AGAIN A++++++++++++++++++++
haha... +1 positive feedback for that! (I hope you'll do the same once my comment is received!)
FANTASTIC THREAD, GOOD COMMUNICATION WOULD READ AGAIN A++++++++++++++++++++ haha... +1 positive feedback for that! (I hope you'll do the same once my comment is received!)
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jamesreeve5
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by jamesreeve5 on Dec 13, 2007 19:59:18 GMT 1, I have no problem AT ALL with Flippers, I see it as no more than a legit business venture. In my mind it is no different from people who buy and sell any in-demand commodity at a profit. Whether that commodity be diamonds, clothings, electronics, cars or whatever. The real villians in this whole scene are POW and specifically Laz, they have a complete monopoly on the market and control and hype it to a frightening extent. The sad fact of the matter is that most of you are all so blinkered you really don't have a clue. This is what Laz wants you to be like. Little lap-dogs who worship his every move and release. Time for some of you to waken up... PS Neg away, I treat it as an honour and I loathe the full Fan-Boy scene.
revolt! give up banksy! lets pour all of our money into a new artist!
I have no problem AT ALL with Flippers, I see it as no more than a legit business venture. In my mind it is no different from people who buy and sell any in-demand commodity at a profit. Whether that commodity be diamonds, clothings, electronics, cars or whatever. The real villians in this whole scene are POW and specifically Laz, they have a complete monopoly on the market and control and hype it to a frightening extent. The sad fact of the matter is that most of you are all so blinkered you really don't have a clue. This is what Laz wants you to be like. Little lap-dogs who worship his every move and release. Time for some of you to waken up... PS Neg away, I treat it as an honour and I loathe the full Fan-Boy scene. revolt! give up banksy! lets pour all of our money into a new artist!
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kronoopus
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by kronoopus on Dec 13, 2007 20:47:23 GMT 1, I've noticed here and elsewhere that just about everyone flips........At one time or another. No wall space, no more room under the bed, girlfriend boyfriend wife husband cat dog mother-in-law hates it, I've overspent, bills to pay, mortgage due, kids school to pay, wedding to pay, gambling debts, porn habit, the list goes on and on..............
I've noticed here and elsewhere that just about everyone flips........At one time or another. No wall space, no more room under the bed, girlfriend boyfriend wife husband cat dog mother-in-law hates it, I've overspent, bills to pay, mortgage due, kids school to pay, wedding to pay, gambling debts, porn habit, the list goes on and on..............
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by corblimeylimey on Dec 13, 2007 21:23:53 GMT 1, I've noticed here and elsewhere that just about everyone flips........At one time or another. No wall space, no more room under the bed, girlfriend boyfriend wife husband cat dog mother-in-law hates it, I've overspent, bills to pay, mortgage due, kids school to pay, wedding to pay, gambling debts, porn habit, the list goes on and on..............
I wasn't going to get drawn into this, but...
Selling stuff is not flipping even when you sell it for market value.
Flipping is buying something with the sole intention of selling it immediately or very quickly purely for profit. (see anything thats on ebay from SG 07, that's flipping)
Now, you can only 'flip' certain things, like concert tickets, football match tickets, high demand limited edition prints, certain expensive sports cars with waiting lists etc.
If you like paying ยฃ100's of pounds over the odds for seeing bands, football, or prints then you like flippers.
If you like you see bands, football etc for the face value on the tickets then flippers are of no use to you, in fact they'll make it more difficult as it adds artificial demand.
I've noticed here and elsewhere that just about everyone flips........At one time or another. No wall space, no more room under the bed, girlfriend boyfriend wife husband cat dog mother-in-law hates it, I've overspent, bills to pay, mortgage due, kids school to pay, wedding to pay, gambling debts, porn habit, the list goes on and on.............. I wasn't going to get drawn into this, but... Selling stuff is not flipping even when you sell it for market value. Flipping is buying something with the sole intention of selling it immediately or very quickly purely for profit. (see anything thats on ebay from SG 07, that's flipping) Now, you can only 'flip' certain things, like concert tickets, football match tickets, high demand limited edition prints, certain expensive sports cars with waiting lists etc. If you like paying ยฃ100's of pounds over the odds for seeing bands, football, or prints then you like flippers. If you like you see bands, football etc for the face value on the tickets then flippers are of no use to you, in fact they'll make it more difficult as it adds artificial demand.
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morrissey1
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by morrissey1 on Dec 14, 2007 4:10:50 GMT 1, once you buy something (if the money you use isn't stolen, or you don't kill somebody for it) it is your property, and you have absolutely every right to do anything with it as you please. With ownership comes the ability to actually treat it like it's your own. Therefore, nobody can tell you it's wrong to sell something, it's wrong to make a profit, it's wrong to flip. Is it creepy and without ethics and respect to buy something and turn around and sell it right away? Maybe. But is it your right? Of course. I think sometimes on this forum we get caught up in the idea that there is "us" and the "flippers"....but I think most of the flippers aren't that different from the rest of us. It's unfair to say it's wrong to sell something straight away after buying it, but that it's ok to sell it six months down the road. If you're selling you're a seller, if you're buying you're a buyer. And the two cannot exist without each other. Rant complete!
once you buy something (if the money you use isn't stolen, or you don't kill somebody for it) it is your property, and you have absolutely every right to do anything with it as you please. With ownership comes the ability to actually treat it like it's your own. Therefore, nobody can tell you it's wrong to sell something, it's wrong to make a profit, it's wrong to flip. Is it creepy and without ethics and respect to buy something and turn around and sell it right away? Maybe. But is it your right? Of course. I think sometimes on this forum we get caught up in the idea that there is "us" and the "flippers"....but I think most of the flippers aren't that different from the rest of us. It's unfair to say it's wrong to sell something straight away after buying it, but that it's ok to sell it six months down the road. If you're selling you're a seller, if you're buying you're a buyer. And the two cannot exist without each other. Rant complete!
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Avian Security
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by Avian Security on Dec 14, 2007 4:22:48 GMT 1, I've noticed here and elsewhere that just about everyone flips........At one time or another. No wall space, no more room under the bed, girlfriend boyfriend wife husband cat dog mother-in-law hates it, I've overspent, bills to pay, mortgage due, kids school to pay, wedding to pay, gambling debts, porn habit, the list goes on and on.............. I wasn't going to get drawn into this, but... Selling stuff is not flipping even when you sell it for market value. Flipping is buying something with the sole intention of selling it immediately or very quickly purely for profit. (see anything thats on ebay from SG 07, that's flipping) Now, you can only 'flip' certain things, like concert tickets, football match tickets, high demand limited edition prints, certain expensive sports cars with waiting lists etc. If you like paying ยฃ100's of pounds over the odds for seeing bands, football, or prints then you like flippers. If you like you see bands, football etc for the face value on the tickets then flippers are of no use to you, in fact they'll make it more difficult as it adds artificial demand.
I think the term "flipping" has been used for the housing market for a while. People with a lot of wodge, bought houses and sold them 6 months later without doing any work on them or even living in them. So I'm not sure it's a question of what the commodity is, or how long you wait before you flip, but the intention. The intention is to make money in all cases, which in itself is not wrong. What people resent is that they've been denied the opportunity to (a) acquire something they want, or (b) do exactly the same as the "flipper"... In most cases somewhere between the two. However there's nothing that's innately morally reprehensible about the activity.
I've noticed here and elsewhere that just about everyone flips........At one time or another. No wall space, no more room under the bed, girlfriend boyfriend wife husband cat dog mother-in-law hates it, I've overspent, bills to pay, mortgage due, kids school to pay, wedding to pay, gambling debts, porn habit, the list goes on and on.............. I wasn't going to get drawn into this, but... Selling stuff is not flipping even when you sell it for market value. Flipping is buying something with the sole intention of selling it immediately or very quickly purely for profit. (see anything thats on ebay from SG 07, that's flipping) Now, you can only 'flip' certain things, like concert tickets, football match tickets, high demand limited edition prints, certain expensive sports cars with waiting lists etc. If you like paying ยฃ100's of pounds over the odds for seeing bands, football, or prints then you like flippers. If you like you see bands, football etc for the face value on the tickets then flippers are of no use to you, in fact they'll make it more difficult as it adds artificial demand. I think the term "flipping" has been used for the housing market for a while. People with a lot of wodge, bought houses and sold them 6 months later without doing any work on them or even living in them. So I'm not sure it's a question of what the commodity is, or how long you wait before you flip, but the intention. The intention is to make money in all cases, which in itself is not wrong. What people resent is that they've been denied the opportunity to (a) acquire something they want, or (b) do exactly the same as the "flipper"... In most cases somewhere between the two. However there's nothing that's innately morally reprehensible about the activity.
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BME
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by BME on Dec 14, 2007 5:10:54 GMT 1, Its an age-old debate. The morality of generating profit through trade (rather than from 'the sweat of one's brow') was a hot topic in Ancient Greece, the Middle Ages and well into the 19th Century. Personally, I like Aquinas' take on it:
"If someone would be greatly helped by something belonging to someone else, and the seller not similarly harmed by losing it, the seller must not sell for a higher price: because the usefulness that goes to the buyer comes not from the seller, but from the buyer's needy condition."
Its an age-old debate. The morality of generating profit through trade (rather than from 'the sweat of one's brow') was a hot topic in Ancient Greece, the Middle Ages and well into the 19th Century. Personally, I like Aquinas' take on it: "If someone would be greatly helped by something belonging to someone else, and the seller not similarly harmed by losing it, the seller must not sell for a higher price: because the usefulness that goes to the buyer comes not from the seller, but from the buyer's needy condition."
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submit
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by submit on Dec 14, 2007 5:19:19 GMT 1, Thomas Aquinas was a flipper? blasphemer!!
Thomas Aquinas was a flipper? blasphemer!!
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dburn
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by dburn on Dec 14, 2007 7:09:30 GMT 1, over it.... mantis rules.
over it.... mantis rules.
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Avian Security
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by Avian Security on Dec 14, 2007 9:01:55 GMT 1, What a ramble. -1
What a ramble. -1
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by Lord Lucas Roham on Dec 14, 2007 10:50:34 GMT 1, Basically a wall of text mate so -1
Basically a wall of text mate so -1
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PEOPLE WHO FLIP, by shogun on Dec 14, 2007 12:09:08 GMT 1, I think it boils down to a love of art.
Buy what you like, Dont buy what you dont and there'll be enough to go around.
Tastes can change - so that print on your wall thats been there for a few years might aswell be sold off. But selling prints before you have them in your hand.... Its Art Touting
I think it boils down to a love of art.
Buy what you like, Dont buy what you dont and there'll be enough to go around.
Tastes can change - so that print on your wall thats been there for a few years might aswell be sold off. But selling prints before you have them in your hand.... Its Art Touting
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