[topper007]

Now that the dust is settling, what do people really think of the brave new world for Banksy print releases at POW? Try not to let your success or otherwise cloud your judgment

P.S. for what it's worth I was unsuccessful but on balance think it's the right direction to take if perhaps with a little more fine-tuning.

[robinbanks]

If they're going to do this from now on I'd prefer if it was just a 1 hour window for entries, and then winners notified 24 hours later.

Just email people a week before and then maybe a follow up reminder email on the day.

At the moment it just drags on too long.

If they are going to persist with the same system they need to communicate via their website a lot better. ie; all the prints have been allocated there are no more emails being sent out and no prints will be sold online. end of.

Personally I much prefered the old system. You might have had more or less the same chance of scoring one but at least you felt like you had a degree of control over it.

Also - the bit about not having to re-register if you were unsuccessful this time is about as clear as mud. What about the people that undoubtedly entered ten email accounts - will they still be entered in every print draw from now until the end of time. What about the winners - will their emails now be discarded (seems a bit unfair)?

[topper007]

Robinbanks - all good points - that's some of the fine-tuning I'm talking about.

Agree to disagree on the old system though. The one big benefit I feel this new one has is that you enter and that's it - no need to spend hours fruitlessly hitting F5, and that's assuming you even have the time to do that.

[sand]

I agree with a lot of robinbanks sentiments.

The period in which you could enter the lottery was too long - probably allowed a lot of people the time to set up new email accounts / change their IP address multiple times and for non Banksy fans with no interest in the actual art - the time to hear about the lottery and enter along with all their friends and family members.

I would say a 1 hour window with a advance warning would be fair.

Also I wish you got some sort of confirmation of entering the lottery [automatically generated email]. And than a message to let you know 'you have been unsuccesful on this occasion' kinda email after the draw is completed.

Also agree with robin that POW should communicate more clearly on their homepage...it really isn't too hard to do.

Fair play to POW for trying to do something different...it does just need to be tweaked though.

[cashman]

I won nothing and think it worked fine, end of

[sand]

Jul 30, 2009 9:26:43 GMT 1 @cashman said:

I won nothing and think it worked fine, end of

Depends on how many we see for sale on ebay...

Could POW not have taken credit / debit card details upon entering the lottery so that the entrants name would have to match the name on the card...thus making it much more difficult to enter multiple times.

[Ruggs]

I think the lottery has been a success from POW's point of view. No fuss, no bother! I hope it remains despite the fact I didn't manage to score one. I agree with the 1 hour window with the advanced message a week before followed up with final message the day before, not on the day. A lot of Banksy fans and collectors don't have access to computer's during the day, but more than likely do have them at home. This gives them the opportunity to sort something out. Regarding this lottery I agree with the fact they could've been a bit more informative. Certainly on their own website and possibly on this forum too. Hope I have better luck next time!

[os1so]

I have to disagree with the one hour window idea, I didn't win the opportunity to buy this print, but am well happy I didn't have to stay up all night again F5in to try and buy one and still be disappointed. And I really don't want to wake up in the middle of the night our time to register for one, in a one hour slot ( the way I sleep, it takes the alarm a half dozen times to wake me in the morning )

[boatboy]

Lets see how many are on ebay to see if it's worked or not. I reckon ebay will be flooded even more than usual so in that respect a failure.

[Ruggs]

Jul 30, 2009 9:45:58 GMT 1 os1so said:

I have to disagree with the one hour window idea, I didn't win the opportunity to buy this print, but am well happy I didn't have to stay up all night again F5in to try and buy one and still be disappointed. And I really don't want to wake up in the middle of the night our time to register for one, in a one hour slot ( the way I sleep, it takes the alarm a half dozen times to wake me in the morning )

Rather than be up ALL night F5ing you'll know what 'hour' to be up for. I think for the sake of overseas punters they should specify the exact hour window. Example: 3.00pm to 4.00pm (GMT).

[kitkit]

first time ive ever won one so happy days all round por moi

[Fragile]

first one to hit the bay?

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banksy-Donuts-Donut-Strawberry-Print_W0QQitemZ270435503541QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Prints?hash=item3ef7364db5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[Rsyok]

Dependable US flippers always first.

Personally I enjoyed my non-winning experience helped along with Silky's" THIS IS THE VOICE OF POW UPDATES"

[os1so]

Ruggs, 3.00pm to 4.00pm is 1 - 2am over hear, How many complaints would POW get if the you guys in the UK had to get up at 1 - 2am to register. even if the times are changed to suit me, then someone somewhere would be unhappy. maybe make 1 day not one hour!

[bonesy]

I like the short window to enter idea. I also think entering your last 4 credit card numbers at time of entry would greatly reduce the number of entrants. And obviously only allow the unique winning name and credit card number to complete the purchase.

[richy00]

all good points being made, i think you should register the card your going to pay with and you can only enter your card once.. good idea

but most of all what i want IS A CONFIRMATION EMAIL THAT IVE BEEN ENTERED... hope you heard that POW

[damullae]

What about putting the 600 prints on ebay or similar auction site.. I have to buy there anyway @ 4 times the cost...

But think it is better than live releases.

Next release I wonder what happens if someone re-enters details, will they be excluded for double entry?

[digitalkid]

Jul 30, 2009 10:13:07 GMT 1 bonesy said:

I like the short window to enter idea. I also think entering your last 4 credit card numbers at time of entry would greatly reduce the number of entrants. And obviously only allow the unique winning name and credit card number to complete the purchase.

depends how many CC you have!

[hlarmy]

Banksy and POW should organise a charity print run in the style of Red Propellor / Edgeart and give fans a 24 hour window to purchase a signed print. The amount sold would be the edition size. Admittedly, Banksy would undoubtedly have to spend about 6 months signing '000s of prints but he could reduce the price to £200 (for example) and give a huge amount of money to charity and give all his fans (new and old) the chance to buy a signed Banksy print at an affordable price. The media attention and PR around doing such a thing would also serve to increase his exposure even further.

Everyone wins... (I think )

[Ruggs]

Jul 30, 2009 10:08:47 GMT 1 os1so said:

Ruggs, 3.00pm to 4.00pm is 1 - 2am over hear, How many complaints would POW get if the you guys in the UK had to get up at 1 - 2am to register. even if the times are changed to suit me, then someone somewhere would be unhappy. maybe make 1 day not one hour!

os1so! 3.00pm to 4.00pm is just an example. Maybe a mid-morning or lunchtime (GMT) window. Agreed it wouldn't suit everyone. Must be better than F5ing or Apple 'R'ing for hours on end.

[boatboy]

Jul 30, 2009 10:26:29 GMT 1 hlarmy said:

Banksy and POW should organise a charity print run in the style of Red Propellor / Edgeart and give fans a 24 hour window to purchase a signed print. The amount sold would be the edition size. Admittedly, Banksy would undoubtedly have to spend about 6 months signing '000s of prints but he could reduce the price to £200 (for example) and give a huge amount of money to charity and give all his fans (new and old) the chance to buy a signed Banksy print at an affordable price. The media attention and PR around doing such a thing would also serve to increase his exposure even further.

Everyone wins... (I think )

Good idea.
He could just get his team to help him out with signing them, who knows who signs them anyway?

[dogzero]

I didn't win, but thought it was pretty good - was glad to see some forum members getting donuts, would have been horrible if so many people had entered that nobody here got one.

As well as name and email, I think that having to enter your post-code (that your credit card is registered at) would definitely help to weed out multiple entries.

Looking forward to the next one now (assuming that I did actually type my email address in properly the first time!)

AJ.

[Billy Sport]

Jul 30, 2009 9:54:31 GMT 1 Fragile said:

first one to hit the bay?

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banksy-Donuts-Donut-Strawberry-Print_W0QQitemZ270435503541QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Prints?hash=item3ef7364db5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

this isnt going to be hard for POW to work out who this is.. how many winners from portland .

[dogzero]

Jul 30, 2009 11:07:46 GMT 1 Billy Sport said:

Jul 30, 2009 9:54:31 GMT 1 Fragile said:

first one to hit the bay?

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banksy-Donuts-Donut-Strawberry-Print_W0QQitemZ270435503541QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Prints?hash=item3ef7364db5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

this isnt going to be hard for POW to work out who this is.. how many winners from portland .

Surely just because the seller is in Portland, doesn't mean the original owner of the donut was also from there.

AJ.

[G-Man]

I like the idea of the lottery but wasn't lucky this time I havent managed to score a banksy from source since S&S so am not happy about that but still think that this way at least I have a chance

I do agree with others here that a tighter window for entering and a confirmation that my email was actually in the draw would be good for piece of mind, I entered only once but from my work computer and I know that many of my work colleagues also entered, so dont know if mine was kept in for a chance or not?!

I like thet Red Prop model and think that Banksy should absolutely do this to end his show, perhaps just for a few short hours low price and edition size decided on how many are bout. Great way for everyone to be happy, collectors especially and put an end to flipping completely

Still pissed off that I didnt get one mind

[Deleted]

I like the lottery, still not scored a print from source but hey ho. I was thinking last night though, it would be a good idea if POW held some back and sold at Market value, so those that did miss and are real fans willing to pay more for a print they want would not have to go through the ordeal of ebay and other such methods. I would be happier paying POW 1.5K than some spotty 19yr old looking for a fast buck. There are a few holes to this idea but it's just a thought. ;D

[alsbabar]

Given the popularity of Mr. B's show, how many more thousands of people do you think registered or expressed an interest in his prints? If they did a print release online, these thousands of new fans across the world would have missed out - so give credit where credit is due - POW/Pest Control/Banksy are at least doing something that is fair for all, not just for the few.

Also the time window is flawed, because look at the time differences you have to deal with - LA are -8 hours -Sydney +9 Hours. What about the people who were/are away either on holiday or down in Bristol looking at the show?

[curiousgeorge]

quelle surprise

[curiousgeorge]

Ohh that's right, you are either with them or against them, no grey area here

More surprises, posts edited

[danmuppet]

did u get one als?