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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by taylor26 on Nov 20, 2007 0:48:32 GMT 1, I saw the one on ebay but was put off by the damage ,where can i get one from ? any one know how many were printed ? and what would be a fair price ?
Thanks all
I saw the one on ebay but was put off by the damage ,where can i get one from ? any one know how many were printed ? and what would be a fair price ?
Thanks all
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by morrissey1 on Nov 20, 2007 1:07:11 GMT 1, being that it was a backdoor print, there probably aren't many out there...any snapping up the one on ebay might have been one of your very few chances to get it....its not a proper edition.....
being that it was a backdoor print, there probably aren't many out there...any snapping up the one on ebay might have been one of your very few chances to get it....its not a proper edition.....
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by dmandpenfold on Nov 20, 2007 1:12:15 GMT 1, hmm i think buster would have the full low down on this but if i'm right the long and the short of it is that there appears to be only one 'real' one in existance, property of a certain Messers Fairey and that all others are either fakes, backdoor prints etc. There was no official release of the gold........ please feel free to correct me if i've got this wrong anyone....where's buster.... 
hmm i think buster would have the full low down on this but if i'm right the long and the short of it is that there appears to be only one 'real' one in existance, property of a certain Messers Fairey and that all others are either fakes, backdoor prints etc. There was no official release of the gold........ please feel free to correct me if i've got this wrong anyone....where's buster.... |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by pagerage on Nov 20, 2007 2:06:47 GMT 1, not true dmandisdfusiodf. the one shown at shepards house is not the same deal at all. his looks to be a hand sprayed. and there is plenty of other 'real' ones, look andipas way.
the member westley was offering one up last week. it is from the printer, and has a great deal of prov as far as these 'backdoor' prints go. search him out, and then give me 5% commission.
not true dmandisdfusiodf. the one shown at shepards house is not the same deal at all. his looks to be a hand sprayed. and there is plenty of other 'real' ones, look andipas way.
the member westley was offering one up last week. it is from the printer, and has a great deal of prov as far as these 'backdoor' prints go. search him out, and then give me 5% commission.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by dmandpenfold on Nov 20, 2007 4:00:22 GMT 1, arent all the Andipa ones hand-sprayed on canvas? The colour one they have is green not gold and is also a one off original on canvas not a print, which is what i was talking about. I don't know about westley's print though, i've never seen it.
Of course any back door prints are naturally not part of an official release, therefore were never meant to be sold and wouldn't be signed or stamped/numbered; provenance etc would be harder to prove. In that case surely the value of these would be lower than the official releases and any unusual ones more of a curiosity, nice though they are?
So if we were able answer the original post would the gold print be less to pick up than an official release?
arent all the Andipa ones hand-sprayed on canvas? The colour one they have is green not gold and is also a one off original on canvas not a print, which is what i was talking about. I don't know about westley's print though, i've never seen it.
Of course any back door prints are naturally not part of an official release, therefore were never meant to be sold and wouldn't be signed or stamped/numbered; provenance etc would be harder to prove. In that case surely the value of these would be lower than the official releases and any unusual ones more of a curiosity, nice though they are?
So if we were able answer the original post would the gold print be less to pick up than an official release?
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by pagerage on Nov 20, 2007 4:20:38 GMT 1, my point was that faireys OG is in no way related to the print, backdoor or not. sheps is just as 'real' as a canvas sold from andipa.
i would think that a print from the official run should be worth more, but others may disagree. some may argue that the gold 'printers proof' is much more rare, and therefore more valuable. im not sure if i should speak on westleys behalf, but the gold LIITA he has comes with a note from the printer and a decent story. while its not full prov, it is something. the story and the 'note' could be faked just as easily as the print could be, which creates an inherent leap of faith someone would have to take when purchasing. i highly doubt that any decent auction house would ever consider touching one of these. that being said, i would jump to purchase one at $500
my point was that faireys OG is in no way related to the print, backdoor or not. sheps is just as 'real' as a canvas sold from andipa.
i would think that a print from the official run should be worth more, but others may disagree. some may argue that the gold 'printers proof' is much more rare, and therefore more valuable. im not sure if i should speak on westleys behalf, but the gold LIITA he has comes with a note from the printer and a decent story. while its not full prov, it is something. the story and the 'note' could be faked just as easily as the print could be, which creates an inherent leap of faith someone would have to take when purchasing. i highly doubt that any decent auction house would ever consider touching one of these. that being said, i would jump to purchase one at $500
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by snakes on Nov 20, 2007 6:27:44 GMT 1, I dont think anyone would even consider selling you one for $500 when a damaged one just sold for £885.
I dont think anyone would even consider selling you one for $500 when a damaged one just sold for £885.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 10:58:19 GMT 1, one, the gold one is crap, two, it is worth what you're willing to pay for it but bear in mind it has no status and therefore only material value.
no gallery, auction house or serious collector would touch this in a million years. there are a few about, same as the stretch pulp's but this gold edition has never ever been connected with banksy, it's regarded purely as a creation of the printing company in birmingham that did the printing back then.
the stretch pulp's were an a/p and have since been sold for £22k a piece, an editon of about seven.
in comparison the backdoor unsigned, unnumbered stretch pulp's are worth zero. if somone will pay a grand or two for one, then good luck to them but they are worthless without prov and being editioned.
as for a letter from the printer as prov? well in that case it must be authentic because anyone, not just pow and laz, can authenticate a print you know, i'm always doing them. pm me and i'll the same for you. 
one, the gold one is crap, two, it is worth what you're willing to pay for it but bear in mind it has no status and therefore only material value. no gallery, auction house or serious collector would touch this in a million years. there are a few about, same as the stretch pulp's but this gold edition has never ever been connected with banksy, it's regarded purely as a creation of the printing company in birmingham that did the printing back then. the stretch pulp's were an a/p and have since been sold for £22k a piece, an editon of about seven. in comparison the backdoor unsigned, unnumbered stretch pulp's are worth zero. if somone will pay a grand or two for one, then good luck to them but they are worthless without prov and being editioned. as for a letter from the printer as prov? well in that case it must be authentic because anyone, not just pow and laz, can authenticate a print you know, i'm always doing them. pm me and i'll the same for you. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by buster on Nov 20, 2007 11:17:17 GMT 1, one, the gold one is crap, two, it is worth what you're willing to pay for it but bear in mind it has no status and therefore only material value. no gallery, auction house or serious collector would touch this in a million years. there are a few about, same as the stretch pulp's but this gold edition has never ever been connected with banksy, it's regarded purely as a creation of the printing company in birmingham that did the printing back then. the stretch pulp's were an a/p and have since been sold for £22k a piece, an editon of about seven. in comparison the backdoor unsigned, unnumbered stretch pulp's are worth zero. if somone will pay a grand or two for one, then good luck to them but they are worthless without prov and being editioned. as for a letter from the printer as prov? well in that case it must be authentic because anyone, not just pow and laz, can authenticate a print you know, i'm always doing them. pm me and i'll the same for you.
To whom it may concern,
I printed this piece from a stencil created by another artist, without their knowledge or authorisation, I then removed it from where it was printed, with other unauthorised prints, and proceeded to sell what many might consider to be stolen property.....
Ahem.
I have a stolen telly for sale dirt cheap, it does come with full warranty and receipts from the dodgy bloke in the van who sold it to me though.......
;D ;D ;D ;D
one back from me rudeboy, have a feeling it'll be one of those days as someone will always try to legitimise these posters.
one, the gold one is crap, two, it is worth what you're willing to pay for it but bear in mind it has no status and therefore only material value. no gallery, auction house or serious collector would touch this in a million years. there are a few about, same as the stretch pulp's but this gold edition has never ever been connected with banksy, it's regarded purely as a creation of the printing company in birmingham that did the printing back then. the stretch pulp's were an a/p and have since been sold for £22k a piece, an editon of about seven. in comparison the backdoor unsigned, unnumbered stretch pulp's are worth zero. if somone will pay a grand or two for one, then good luck to them but they are worthless without prov and being editioned. as for a letter from the printer as prov? well in that case it must be authentic because anyone, not just pow and laz, can authenticate a print you know, i'm always doing them. pm me and i'll the same for you. Bang on rudboy, I had a good chuckle when I heard about the note.... To whom it may concern, I printed this piece from a stencil created by another artist, without their knowledge or authorisation, I then removed it from where it was printed, with other unauthorised prints, and proceeded to sell what many might consider to be stolen property..... Ahem. I have a stolen telly for sale dirt cheap, it does come with full warranty and receipts from the dodgy bloke in the van who sold it to me though....... ;D ;D ;D ;D one back from me rudeboy, have a feeling it'll be one of those days as someone will always try to legitimise these posters. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by dmandpenfold on Nov 20, 2007 11:22:55 GMT 1, cheers for the neg, faceless gutless c unt.
;D ;D ;D
nice rudeboy, thought i was barking up the right tree
must be someone with a backdoor gold who thought they were sitting on a goldmine, you've gone and ruined the sale now 
cheers for the neg, faceless gutless c unt. ;D ;D ;D nice rudeboy, thought i was barking up the right tree must be someone with a backdoor gold who thought they were sitting on a goldmine, you've gone and ruined the sale now |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 11:24:52 GMT 1, buster, cheers. i'll have that telly BTW if it hasn't sold
buster, cheers. i'll have that telly BTW if it hasn't sold |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by pezlow on Nov 20, 2007 11:27:56 GMT 1, I have to say I like the Gold LIITA. And yes I know all the arguments about backdoor prints and that I really shouldn't be buying. I also know it is effectively just a poster. But I still like it. I would have bought the one on the bay but it went for far too much money.
I have to say I like the Gold LIITA. And yes I know all the arguments about backdoor prints and that I really shouldn't be buying. I also know it is effectively just a poster. But I still like it. I would have bought the one on the bay but it went for far too much money.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by buster on Nov 20, 2007 11:28:30 GMT 1, its yours fella, it says Wankfucky on the front, but thats just the french spelling of Sony Bravia ( so the bloke said...... so it must be true) ;D ;D ;D
its yours fella, it says Wankfucky on the front, but thats just the french spelling of Sony Bravia ( so the bloke said...... so it must be true) ;D ;D ;D
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 11:31:58 GMT 1, I have to say I like the Gold LIITA. And yes I know all the arguments about backdoor prints and that I really shouldn't be buying. I also know it is effectively just a poster. But I still like it. I would have bought the one on the bay but it went for far too much money.
do you prefer it to the red though pez? i think nu pointed out that the vibrancy of the red background is what gave this particular print it's impact. for me, i prefer the red to any and every single canvass, for pretty much those reasons.
anyone wanna swap me one? please?
I have to say I like the Gold LIITA. And yes I know all the arguments about backdoor prints and that I really shouldn't be buying. I also know it is effectively just a poster. But I still like it. I would have bought the one on the bay but it went for far too much money. do you prefer it to the red though pez? i think nu pointed out that the vibrancy of the red background is what gave this particular print it's impact. for me, i prefer the red to any and every single canvass, for pretty much those reasons. anyone wanna swap me one? please? |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by pezlow on Nov 20, 2007 11:36:08 GMT 1, Yeah I think I do prefer it to the red. The red is a bit much for my tastes.
Personally I think this image works best on a white background though, similar to the cover of Wall and Piece.
Yeah I think I do prefer it to the red. The red is a bit much for my tastes.
Personally I think this image works best on a white background though, similar to the cover of Wall and Piece.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 12:33:22 GMT 1, Yeah I think I do prefer it to the red. The red is a bit much for my tastes. Personally I think this image works best on a white background though, similar to the cover of Wall and Piece.
isn't that more greyish though? ;D
Yeah I think I do prefer it to the red. The red is a bit much for my tastes. Personally I think this image works best on a white background though, similar to the cover of Wall and Piece. isn't that more greyish though? ;D |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by pezlow on Nov 20, 2007 12:36:27 GMT 1, Yeah I think I do prefer it to the red. The red is a bit much for my tastes. Personally I think this image works best on a white background though, similar to the cover of Wall and Piece. isn't that more greyish though? ;D
Yeah probably - I guess I should have said "light" rather than "white" 
Yeah I think I do prefer it to the red. The red is a bit much for my tastes. Personally I think this image works best on a white background though, similar to the cover of Wall and Piece. isn't that more greyish though? ;D Yeah probably - I guess I should have said "light" rather than "white" |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by insite on Nov 20, 2007 12:43:08 GMT 1, isn't that more greyish though? ;D Yeah probably - I guess I should have said "light" rather than "white"
How about the keep left sticker, that's on a white background (you could always tippex out the red circle) plus it's wipe clean, a boon to any parent.
isn't that more greyish though? ;D Yeah probably - I guess I should have said "light" rather than "white" How about the keep left sticker, that's on a white background (you could always tippex out the red circle) plus it's wipe clean, a boon to any parent. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by snakes on Nov 20, 2007 14:03:00 GMT 1, the backdoor unsigned, unnumbered stretch pulp's are worth zero. if somone will pay a grand or two for one, then good luck to them but they are worthless without prov and being editioned.
If anyone has a normal unstretched 'pulp' backdoor print (with or without printers provinence!)please feel free to contact me as i think its a bloody nice print and i unfortunately do not have lots of wedge for a numbered one and even if i did i think i would be flying me and the Mrs to somewhere hot or thereabouts!
the backdoor unsigned, unnumbered stretch pulp's are worth zero. if somone will pay a grand or two for one, then good luck to them but they are worthless without prov and being editioned. If anyone has a normal unstretched 'pulp' backdoor print (with or without printers provinence!)please feel free to contact me as i think its a bloody nice print and i unfortunately do not have lots of wedge for a numbered one and even if i did i think i would be flying me and the Mrs to somewhere hot or thereabouts! |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by craigf on Nov 20, 2007 14:26:35 GMT 1, its yours fella, it says Wankf**ky on the front, but thats just the french spelling of Sony Bravia ( so the bloke said...... so it must be true) ;D ;D ;D
I can check with our marketing communications ppl, but I am pretty sure that isn't the translation ;D
its yours fella, it says Wankf**ky on the front, but thats just the french spelling of Sony Bravia ( so the bloke said...... so it must be true) ;D ;D ;D I can check with our marketing communications ppl, but I am pretty sure that isn't the translation ;D |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by buster on Nov 20, 2007 14:35:37 GMT 1, its yours fella, it says Wankf**ky on the front, but thats just the french spelling of Sony Bravia ( so the bloke said...... so it must be true) ;D ;D ;D I can check with our marketing communications ppl, but I am pretty sure that isn't the translation ;D
its yours fella, it says Wankf**ky on the front, but thats just the french spelling of Sony Bravia ( so the bloke said...... so it must be true) ;D ;D ;D I can check with our marketing communications ppl, but I am pretty sure that isn't the translation ;D next you will tell me that the black tar they used to tar my drive isnt ment to smell of imulsion and wash away when it rains.....please tell me it aint so.... |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 15:54:22 GMT 1, its yours fella, it says Wankf**ky on the front, but thats just the french spelling of Sony Bravia ( so the bloke said...... so it must be true) ;D ;D ;D I can check with our marketing communications ppl, but I am pretty sure that isn't the translation ;D
nope, bloke said, so it must be true.
its yours fella, it says Wankf**ky on the front, but thats just the french spelling of Sony Bravia ( so the bloke said...... so it must be true) ;D ;D ;D I can check with our marketing communications ppl, but I am pretty sure that isn't the translation ;D nope, bloke said, so it must be true. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by pagerage on Nov 20, 2007 17:09:07 GMT 1, I dont think anyone would even consider selling you one for $500 when a damaged one just sold for £885.
that was my point. i dont think it is worth $2000
no gallery, auction house or serious collector would touch this in a million years. as for a letter from the printer as prov? well in that case it must be authentic because anyone, not just pow and laz, can authenticate a print you know, i'm always doing them. pm me and i'll the same for you.
rude boy, i dont unserstand your tone. it sounds like you disagree with what i said.
"the story and the 'note' could be faked just as easily as the print could be, which creates an inherent leap of faith someone would have to take when purchasing. i highly doubt that any decent auction house would ever consider touching one of these"
I dont think anyone would even consider selling you one for $500 when a damaged one just sold for £885. that was my point. i dont think it is worth $2000 no gallery, auction house or serious collector would touch this in a million years. as for a letter from the printer as prov? well in that case it must be authentic because anyone, not just pow and laz, can authenticate a print you know, i'm always doing them. pm me and i'll the same for you. rude boy, i dont unserstand your tone. it sounds like you disagree with what i said. "the story and the 'note' could be faked just as easily as the print could be, which creates an inherent leap of faith someone would have to take when purchasing. i highly doubt that any decent auction house would ever consider touching one of these" |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by lesbianwednesdays on Nov 20, 2007 17:42:07 GMT 1, I dont think anyone would even consider selling you one for $500 when a damaged one just sold for £885. that was my point. i dont think it is worth $2000 no gallery, auction house or serious collector would touch this in a million years. as for a letter from the printer as prov? well in that case it must be authentic because anyone, not just pow and laz, can authenticate a print you know, i'm always doing them. pm me and i'll the same for you. rude boy, i dont unserstand your tone. it sounds like you disagree with what i said. "the story and the 'note' could be faked just as easily as the print could be, which creates an inherent leap of faith someone would have to take when purchasing. i highly doubt that any decent auction house would ever consider touching one of these"
re read my post paperage, i'm sure you'll get it ;D
I dont think anyone would even consider selling you one for $500 when a damaged one just sold for £885. that was my point. i dont think it is worth $2000 no gallery, auction house or serious collector would touch this in a million years. as for a letter from the printer as prov? well in that case it must be authentic because anyone, not just pow and laz, can authenticate a print you know, i'm always doing them. pm me and i'll the same for you. rude boy, i dont unserstand your tone. it sounds like you disagree with what i said. "the story and the 'note' could be faked just as easily as the print could be, which creates an inherent leap of faith someone would have to take when purchasing. i highly doubt that any decent auction house would ever consider touching one of these" re read my post paperage, i'm sure you'll get it ;D |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by buster on Nov 20, 2007 17:53:04 GMT 1, I have been to a Gallery a couple of years back that had about four or five special Banksy test prints, well known images, in different colours, and was told they came direct from POW. I tell ya! if you saw them you would be fallin off the chair!  Dont think they would want me to say who they are  so 
Its true that POW have done some strange and wonderfull colour variations, some of which were released as A/Ps ( esp the napalms, IFTL, soup cans etc...) but it still doesnt make this print any more legit.
Anyone with some nice A/P s fancy sticking some pics up for a gander? not seen any for a while.
I have been to a Gallery a couple of years back that had about four or five special Banksy test prints, well known images, in different colours, and was told they came direct from POW. I tell ya! if you saw them you would be fallin off the chair! Dont think they would want me to say who they are so Its true that POW have done some strange and wonderfull colour variations, some of which were released as A/Ps ( esp the napalms, IFTL, soup cans etc...) but it still doesnt make this print any more legit. Anyone with some nice A/P s fancy sticking some pics up for a gander? not seen any for a while. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by corblimeylimey on Nov 20, 2007 19:00:32 GMT 1, I have to say I like the Gold LIITA. And yes I know all the arguments about backdoor prints and that I really shouldn't be buying. I also know it is effectively just a poster. But I still like it. I would have bought the one on the bay but it went for far too much money.
My thoughts exactly.
I have to say I like the Gold LIITA. And yes I know all the arguments about backdoor prints and that I really shouldn't be buying. I also know it is effectively just a poster. But I still like it. I would have bought the one on the bay but it went for far too much money. My thoughts exactly. |
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Nuno on Nov 26, 2007 21:18:02 GMT 1, Fairly obvious...
if you have one and wish to sell it, pm me.
Looking for an u/s version, but could be swayed by a well priced signed!
Any Response is Much Appreciated!!
Fairly obvious...
if you have one and wish to sell it, pm me.
Looking for an u/s version, but could be swayed by a well priced signed!
Any Response is Much Appreciated!!
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Pattycakes on Nov 27, 2007 0:26:39 GMT 1, There is one at the Bloomsbury Auctions sale on Wednesday www.bloomsburyauctions.com
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