Poppy Sunshine
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Feb 19, 2010 18:46:38 GMT 1, Thanks for the support and kind words nigelbgg....very much appreciated.
I've got to say messing me around is one thing but if anything was to come of any shortfalls in charity money then it would be game over for Mr Jetset.
Thanks for the support and kind words nigelbgg....very much appreciated.
I've got to say messing me around is one thing but if anything was to come of any shortfalls in charity money then it would be game over for Mr Jetset.
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JetSet Graffiti, by manty on Feb 19, 2010 18:50:34 GMT 1, Out of curiosity, whats the tie up between jetset (Daniel) and modern multiples ?
Out of curiosity, whats the tie up between jetset (Daniel) and modern multiples ?
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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Feb 19, 2010 18:51:08 GMT 1, Very much so, didn't it happen on here before a while back with someone ripping off charity money?
Organizing anything for charity has to be well documented for all parties involved to review at all times, and not done on good faith alone.
Very much so, didn't it happen on here before a while back with someone ripping off charity money?
Organizing anything for charity has to be well documented for all parties involved to review at all times, and not done on good faith alone.
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Poppy Sunshine
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Feb 19, 2010 19:01:46 GMT 1, Out of curiosity, whats the tie up between jetset (Daniel) and modern multiples ?
They are the printers involved with the Dface and saber stuff etc.
Wonder if they've had any unpaid bills yet.
Out of curiosity, whats the tie up between jetset (Daniel) and modern multiples ? They are the printers involved with the Dface and saber stuff etc. Wonder if they've had any unpaid bills yet.
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JetSet Graffiti, by lifeonwalls on Feb 19, 2010 19:02:46 GMT 1, Wonder if JSG would care to do the same that EMEK did for his Haiti relief print...
Wonder if JSG would care to do the same that EMEK did for his Haiti relief print...
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JetSet Graffiti, by Gentle Mental on Feb 19, 2010 19:35:43 GMT 1, would like to share my experience, and this is only my experience, maybe i'm the odd guy out, but still... -
I didn't know the backstory, but ordered the Haiti version anyway, not because I love the image, but because the charity thing nudge me through.
been buying stuff online for years, so didn't even crossed my mind anything neg can happened...
HOWEVER, Dan had been helpful and friendly throughout.
My Unamerican Graffiti (Haiti) arrived today - in a huge tube, wrapped with loads of Dface stickers. which was really nice of the man.
The print is actually very, very bright, thick with ink, and high quality - which made image more gorgeous than i though it ever could
the quality is amazing.
and i sincerely hope all this bad vibes can clear up. quickly and in private.
because, as from what i can see, JSG has real potential in being a solid supplier of exceptional work
would like to share my experience, and this is only my experience, maybe i'm the odd guy out, but still... -
I didn't know the backstory, but ordered the Haiti version anyway, not because I love the image, but because the charity thing nudge me through.
been buying stuff online for years, so didn't even crossed my mind anything neg can happened...
HOWEVER, Dan had been helpful and friendly throughout.
My Unamerican Graffiti (Haiti) arrived today - in a huge tube, wrapped with loads of Dface stickers. which was really nice of the man.
The print is actually very, very bright, thick with ink, and high quality - which made image more gorgeous than i though it ever could
the quality is amazing.
and i sincerely hope all this bad vibes can clear up. quickly and in private.
because, as from what i can see, JSG has real potential in being a solid supplier of exceptional work
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Poppy Sunshine
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Feb 19, 2010 20:09:20 GMT 1, It's very admirable of you to show your feelings regarding your recent personal experience gentlemental but you really do need to look at the back catalogue of deceit and unhappiness to appreciate the big picture here I think.
There is only one person who is able to clear these bad vibes up and he has had 18 months to do so.
The reason he has been allowed to drag it out for so long is precisely the fact that it has so far been done in private. During that time more people have been caught in the web.
Now that it is in the open and so much more corrupt activity is coming to light only goes to prove that it should have been opened up to everyone earlier.
I hope he reads your post and realises that he can actually produce what he set out to when he started this business.......a satisfied customer. Then he might go about correcting his mistakes.
It's very admirable of you to show your feelings regarding your recent personal experience gentlemental but you really do need to look at the back catalogue of deceit and unhappiness to appreciate the big picture here I think.
There is only one person who is able to clear these bad vibes up and he has had 18 months to do so.
The reason he has been allowed to drag it out for so long is precisely the fact that it has so far been done in private. During that time more people have been caught in the web.
Now that it is in the open and so much more corrupt activity is coming to light only goes to prove that it should have been opened up to everyone earlier.
I hope he reads your post and realises that he can actually produce what he set out to when he started this business.......a satisfied customer. Then he might go about correcting his mistakes.
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JetSet Graffiti, by sug on Feb 19, 2010 20:21:01 GMT 1, Do you have to be a member to get these links to work?
Do you have to be a member to get these links to work?
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Poppy Sunshine
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Feb 19, 2010 20:27:03 GMT 1, Just put bim growl into google and you'll get there straight away sug.
Some sterling work from grafik.
Just put bim growl into google and you'll get there straight away sug.
Some sterling work from grafik.
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thecsoldier
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JetSet Graffiti, by thecsoldier on Feb 19, 2010 21:42:31 GMT 1, dont want to stir the pot in any way but a friend of mine purchased one of
"These are the ultra-rare edition of 10 proofs that were created while DFace was in Los Angeles a few months ago. Each print was painstakingly hand-pulled by the master printers at Modern Multiples."
we both passed on the initial release but he decided to get one this time around as it would go to charity.
he didn't receive one of the 1/10 rare proofs but a numbered one instead (from the original edition).
dont know if this is a + or - just thought id throw it out there.
thought it was a little on the weird side after reading the numerous threads about Jet Set and hope that the money will still be donated to charity (the main reason he bought it).
dont want to stir the pot in any way but a friend of mine purchased one of
"These are the ultra-rare edition of 10 proofs that were created while DFace was in Los Angeles a few months ago. Each print was painstakingly hand-pulled by the master printers at Modern Multiples."
we both passed on the initial release but he decided to get one this time around as it would go to charity.
he didn't receive one of the 1/10 rare proofs but a numbered one instead (from the original edition).
dont know if this is a + or - just thought id throw it out there.
thought it was a little on the weird side after reading the numerous threads about Jet Set and hope that the money will still be donated to charity (the main reason he bought it).
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JetSet Graffiti, by Photoxtc on Feb 19, 2010 22:35:58 GMT 1, dont want to stir the pot in any way but a friend of mine purchased one of "These are the ultra-rare edition of 10 proofs that were created while DFace was in Los Angeles a few months ago. Each print was painstakingly hand-pulled by the master printers at Modern Multiples." we both passed on the initial release but he decided to get one this time around as it would go to charity. he didn't receive one of the 1/10 rare proofs but a numbered one instead (from the original edition). dont know if this is a + or - just thought id throw it out there. thought it was a little on the weird side after reading the numerous threads about Jet Set and hope that the money will still be donated to charity (the main reason he bought it). From the world famous Tamarind Institute's definitions section; "22. Publisher proofs Unsigned and unchopped impressions (not in excess of five) will be printed on occasion for use in connection with print sales. Such impressions will be clearly marked publication proof, not for sale in indelible ink, and will be further cancelled by cutting a corner from the sheet of paper or punching a hole within the image. All such impressions will be destroyed as soon as they have served their purpose."
unless a profit is to be made... I think all the rules flew out the window a few years ago when people/galleries were making insane profits off of prints and even more so if with was an a/p p/p or any other kind of p/run they could think of... more p's = more money and it didn't matter if there was no difference in the print whatsoever as long as it sold for more money and people would buy them up, then all was good!!! the more P's the merrier
dont want to stir the pot in any way but a friend of mine purchased one of "These are the ultra-rare edition of 10 proofs that were created while DFace was in Los Angeles a few months ago. Each print was painstakingly hand-pulled by the master printers at Modern Multiples." we both passed on the initial release but he decided to get one this time around as it would go to charity. he didn't receive one of the 1/10 rare proofs but a numbered one instead (from the original edition). dont know if this is a + or - just thought id throw it out there. thought it was a little on the weird side after reading the numerous threads about Jet Set and hope that the money will still be donated to charity (the main reason he bought it). From the world famous Tamarind Institute's definitions section; "22. Publisher proofs Unsigned and unchopped impressions (not in excess of five) will be printed on occasion for use in connection with print sales. Such impressions will be clearly marked publication proof, not for sale in indelible ink, and will be further cancelled by cutting a corner from the sheet of paper or punching a hole within the image. All such impressions will be destroyed as soon as they have served their purpose." unless a profit is to be made... I think all the rules flew out the window a few years ago when people/galleries were making insane profits off of prints and even more so if with was an a/p p/p or any other kind of p/run they could think of... more p's = more money and it didn't matter if there was no difference in the print whatsoever as long as it sold for more money and people would buy them up, then all was good!!! the more P's the merrier
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JetSet Graffiti, by monkeyart on Feb 19, 2010 22:47:56 GMT 1, GM, you quoted "because, as from what i can see, JSG has real potential in being a solid supplier of exceptional work"
I'm not having a pop, but why after reading so many peoples trouble with JS and from what I understand 1000's of dollars involved, and the lack of communication as to why, would you see him having the potential to be a solid provider? Other than your own experience, maybe thats all that matters which is fair enough. Cheers MA
GM, you quoted "because, as from what i can see, JSG has real potential in being a solid supplier of exceptional work"
I'm not having a pop, but why after reading so many peoples trouble with JS and from what I understand 1000's of dollars involved, and the lack of communication as to why, would you see him having the potential to be a solid provider? Other than your own experience, maybe thats all that matters which is fair enough. Cheers MA
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JetSet Graffiti, by Photoxtc on Feb 19, 2010 22:54:02 GMT 1, thecsoldier, the fact that your friend paid for an "ultra-rare edition of 10 Publisher Proofs" and got something else is unacceptable, regardless if it was for a charity or not, he/she was still mislead and should be compensated by Daniel is some form or another...
Poppy should be taken care of as well but it doesn't look like that's going to happen without some form of legal representation... which I strongly suggest you follow through with... for me, I wouldn't care if legal fees where more than the value of the print, it would all be a matter of principal to nail his ass...
I also have to say, I don't know the facts either way and have only dealt with JSG once with no issues... but if I was owed $8k or a print of equal value and it had been over 2 yrs with no resolve I would be in serious talks with my team of Lawyers... end of.
thecsoldier, the fact that your friend paid for an "ultra-rare edition of 10 Publisher Proofs" and got something else is unacceptable, regardless if it was for a charity or not, he/she was still mislead and should be compensated by Daniel is some form or another...
Poppy should be taken care of as well but it doesn't look like that's going to happen without some form of legal representation... which I strongly suggest you follow through with... for me, I wouldn't care if legal fees where more than the value of the print, it would all be a matter of principal to nail his ass...
I also have to say, I don't know the facts either way and have only dealt with JSG once with no issues... but if I was owed $8k or a print of equal value and it had been over 2 yrs with no resolve I would be in serious talks with my team of Lawyers... end of.
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JetSet Graffiti, by thecsoldier on Feb 20, 2010 0:07:00 GMT 1, thecsoldier, the fact that your friend paid for an "ultra-rare edition of 10 Publisher Proofs" and got something else is unacceptable, regardless if it was for a charity or not, he/she was still mislead and should be compensated by Daniel is some form or another...
thanks ill pass on this info to him as hes not a member and give you guys updates
thecsoldier, the fact that your friend paid for an "ultra-rare edition of 10 Publisher Proofs" and got something else is unacceptable, regardless if it was for a charity or not, he/she was still mislead and should be compensated by Daniel is some form or another... thanks ill pass on this info to him as hes not a member and give you guys updates
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JetSet Graffiti, by afroken on Feb 20, 2010 0:25:41 GMT 1, "These are the ultra-rare edition of 10 proofs that were created while DFace was in Los Angeles a few months ago. Each print was painstakingly hand-pulled by the master printers at Modern Multiples." we both passed on the initial release but he decided to get one this time around as it would go to charity. he didn't receive one of the 1/10 rare proofs but a numbered one instead (from the original edition).
JSG is beginning to read like a sociopath. Seriously.
"These are the ultra-rare edition of 10 proofs that were created while DFace was in Los Angeles a few months ago. Each print was painstakingly hand-pulled by the master printers at Modern Multiples." we both passed on the initial release but he decided to get one this time around as it would go to charity. he didn't receive one of the 1/10 rare proofs but a numbered one instead (from the original edition). JSG is beginning to read like a sociopath. Seriously.
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JetSet Graffiti, by thecsoldier on Feb 20, 2010 1:00:21 GMT 1, just a theory.....
wondering if the original edition didn't truly sell out, instead they just pulled the remainder of the edition to say SOLD OUT (wouldn't be the first gallery/studio to do so). then when the 10 PP's sold out and transactions still went through, nstead of refunding people $$$, he just sent the leftovers of the OG edition to people over the 10 that ordered (not giving JSG a scapegoat excuse ). the only person that ive heard bought one is gentlemental.
its not that im mad that he sent an OG ed. print its that we have no idea my friends money is going to charity.
p.s. gentlemental is yours a PP?
just a theory..... wondering if the original edition didn't truly sell out, instead they just pulled the remainder of the edition to say SOLD OUT (wouldn't be the first gallery/studio to do so). then when the 10 PP's sold out and transactions still went through, nstead of refunding people $$$, he just sent the leftovers of the OG edition to people over the 10 that ordered (not giving JSG a scapegoat excuse ). the only person that ive heard bought one is gentlemental. its not that im mad that he sent an OG ed. print its that we have no idea my friends money is going to charity. p.s. gentlemental is yours a PP?
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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Feb 20, 2010 4:09:50 GMT 1, would like to share my experience, and this is only my experience, maybe i'm the odd guy out, but still... - I didn't know the backstory, but ordered the Haiti version anyway, not because I love the image, but because the charity thing nudge me through. been buying stuff online for years, so didn't even crossed my mind anything neg can happened... HOWEVER, Dan had been helpful and friendly throughout. My Unamerican Graffiti (Haiti) arrived today - in a huge tube, wrapped with loads of Dface stickers. which was really nice of the man. The print is actually very, very bright, thick with ink, and high quality - which made image more gorgeous than i though it ever could the quality is amazing. and i sincerely hope all this bad vibes can clear up. quickly and in private. because, as from what i can see, JSG has real potential in being a solid supplier of exceptional work
Would you still be happy if you found out that $0 went to charity.
Come on Daniel..... I know you must be errrm busy cough, and have no time for this.... cough.... but lets see some proof that the money got to where it was meant to.
would like to share my experience, and this is only my experience, maybe i'm the odd guy out, but still... - I didn't know the backstory, but ordered the Haiti version anyway, not because I love the image, but because the charity thing nudge me through. been buying stuff online for years, so didn't even crossed my mind anything neg can happened... HOWEVER, Dan had been helpful and friendly throughout. My Unamerican Graffiti (Haiti) arrived today - in a huge tube, wrapped with loads of Dface stickers. which was really nice of the man. The print is actually very, very bright, thick with ink, and high quality - which made image more gorgeous than i though it ever could the quality is amazing. and i sincerely hope all this bad vibes can clear up. quickly and in private. because, as from what i can see, JSG has real potential in being a solid supplier of exceptional work Would you still be happy if you found out that $0 went to charity. Come on Daniel..... I know you must be errrm busy cough, and have no time for this.... cough.... but lets see some proof that the money got to where it was meant to.
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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Feb 20, 2010 4:11:02 GMT 1, dont want to stir the pot in any way but a friend of mine purchased one of "These are the ultra-rare edition of 10 proofs that were created while DFace was in Los Angeles a few months ago. Each print was painstakingly hand-pulled by the master printers at Modern Multiples." we both passed on the initial release but he decided to get one this time around as it would go to charity. he didn't receive one of the 1/10 rare proofs but a numbered one instead (from the original edition). dont know if this is a + or - just thought id throw it out there. thought it was a little on the weird side after reading the numerous threads about Jet Set and hope that the money will still be donated to charity (the main reason he bought it).
I'd also be interested in knowing the number of this print, I wouldn't put ''re-numbering'' past this guy, just to make a quick buck!
dont want to stir the pot in any way but a friend of mine purchased one of "These are the ultra-rare edition of 10 proofs that were created while DFace was in Los Angeles a few months ago. Each print was painstakingly hand-pulled by the master printers at Modern Multiples." we both passed on the initial release but he decided to get one this time around as it would go to charity. he didn't receive one of the 1/10 rare proofs but a numbered one instead (from the original edition). dont know if this is a + or - just thought id throw it out there. thought it was a little on the weird side after reading the numerous threads about Jet Set and hope that the money will still be donated to charity (the main reason he bought it). I'd also be interested in knowing the number of this print, I wouldn't put ''re-numbering'' past this guy, just to make a quick buck!
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JetSet Graffiti, by afroken on Feb 20, 2010 4:26:50 GMT 1, Don't let this thread creep into the realm of conspiracy theories. It's really unhelpful and just panders to JSG's holier than thou rantings. The point is simply for poppy to get his money back. Stick to the facts people.
Don't let this thread creep into the realm of conspiracy theories. It's really unhelpful and just panders to JSG's holier than thou rantings. The point is simply for poppy to get his money back. Stick to the facts people.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Graffiti Prints on Feb 20, 2010 5:34:51 GMT 1, mines at the couriers missed the delivery carnt wait to get it, hope it a pp though, a 1 of 10 print is what i bought and i expect to get that.
mines at the couriers missed the delivery carnt wait to get it, hope it a pp though, a 1 of 10 print is what i bought and i expect to get that.
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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Feb 20, 2010 6:09:06 GMT 1, Don't let this thread creep into the realm of conspiracy theories. It's really unhelpful and just panders to JSG's holier than thou rantings. The point is simply for poppy to get his money back. Stick to the facts people.
REALLY?
I for one would like to see the charity donation slips for a start, wouldn't you?
Don't let this thread creep into the realm of conspiracy theories. It's really unhelpful and just panders to JSG's holier than thou rantings. The point is simply for poppy to get his money back. Stick to the facts people. REALLY? I for one would like to see the charity donation slips for a start, wouldn't you?
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JetSet Graffiti, by Guest on Feb 20, 2010 6:12:02 GMT 1, Don't let this thread creep into the realm of conspiracy theories. It's really unhelpful and just panders to JSG's holier than thou rantings. The point is simply for poppy to get his money back. Stick to the facts people. REALLY? I for one would like to see the charity donation slips for a start, wouldn't you? so would I.
Don't let this thread creep into the realm of conspiracy theories. It's really unhelpful and just panders to JSG's holier than thou rantings. The point is simply for poppy to get his money back. Stick to the facts people. REALLY? I for one would like to see the charity donation slips for a start, wouldn't you? so would I.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2010 8:33:04 GMT 1, As would I.
If you paid US$500 for a printers proof 1/10, then that's precisely what you should get - it really is that simple. Personally it wouldn't have bothered me but I would want the assurance that whatever % of the cost that was due to go to charity went there.
I think in English law you can claim for costs and material distress as well as direct financial loss and wish Chris all the best in this as on the face of it seems to have been treated appallingly.
As would I.
If you paid US$500 for a printers proof 1/10, then that's precisely what you should get - it really is that simple. Personally it wouldn't have bothered me but I would want the assurance that whatever % of the cost that was due to go to charity went there.
I think in English law you can claim for costs and material distress as well as direct financial loss and wish Chris all the best in this as on the face of it seems to have been treated appallingly.
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JetSet Graffiti, by notworthit on Feb 20, 2010 10:16:40 GMT 1, Has anyone checked out those car threads? They're insane
This bloke needs a ton of bricks to fall on him.
Poppy, have you tried calling the polis in LV? Maybe register something with them at least? Also I'd be on the phone to modern multiples and speak to the MD, get an email address and forward him all the threads you can find, if they have any sense they'll drop him like a hot rock.
I'd be planning a lads holiday to Vegas next time the boxing's on if I were you.
Has anyone checked out those car threads? They're insane
This bloke needs a ton of bricks to fall on him.
Poppy, have you tried calling the polis in LV? Maybe register something with them at least? Also I'd be on the phone to modern multiples and speak to the MD, get an email address and forward him all the threads you can find, if they have any sense they'll drop him like a hot rock.
I'd be planning a lads holiday to Vegas next time the boxing's on if I were you.
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JetSet Graffiti, by schlomo on Feb 20, 2010 11:00:07 GMT 1, Chris, i know this thread is about your money, and wish you all the best getting it back. BUT, the charity thing is HUGE!
This is from earlier in the thread...
Regardless of the lies, slander, and hate continually thrown towards our efforts, I'm extremely happy to report that we sold the 10 Publisher proofs and raised over $3,800 for the International Medical Corps. to use in their efforts to help support the relief effort in Haiti. The donation will be made shortly and confirmation will be sent to all clients.
The question of whether money was donated should be answered by this post, where Dan clearly says confirmation of the donation will be sent to all clients. So, anyone who buy one get confirmation? If not then dan you need to post something showing you did donate man....
Ripping off clients is one thing (not a good thing, but one thing), ripping off people and a worthy charity is another thing and is absolutely disgraceful.
Chris, i know this thread is about your money, and wish you all the best getting it back. BUT, the charity thing is HUGE! This is from earlier in the thread... Regardless of the lies, slander, and hate continually thrown towards our efforts, I'm extremely happy to report that we sold the 10 Publisher proofs and raised over $3,800 for the International Medical Corps. to use in their efforts to help support the relief effort in Haiti. The donation will be made shortly and confirmation will be sent to all clients. The question of whether money was donated should be answered by this post, where Dan clearly says confirmation of the donation will be sent to all clients. So, anyone who buy one get confirmation? If not then dan you need to post something showing you did donate man.... Ripping off clients is one thing (not a good thing, but one thing), ripping off people and a worthy charity is another thing and is absolutely disgraceful.
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JetSet Graffiti, by manchestermike on Feb 20, 2010 11:42:28 GMT 1, And the thing is... after all this thread people will still buy from JSG, we've been through all of this numerous times before and still people bought the D prints, principles are great in err... principle
And the thing is... after all this thread people will still buy from JSG, we've been through all of this numerous times before and still people bought the D prints, principles are great in err... principle
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JetSet Graffiti, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2010 13:04:27 GMT 1, I respectfully disagree Mike, I think this is the end of the road for Mr Lahoda.
There's some say that there's no such thing as bad publicity, the D association put him back on the radar screen and you'd ensivage that exercise was commercially sound but this thread should've been nipped in the bud a long while ago to preserve integrity rebuilding.
JSG could've done this by sorting out Poppysunshine or by a suitable response in defence - the silence is deafening.
Credit to Silky also, for letting this one run.
I respectfully disagree Mike, I think this is the end of the road for Mr Lahoda.
There's some say that there's no such thing as bad publicity, the D association put him back on the radar screen and you'd ensivage that exercise was commercially sound but this thread should've been nipped in the bud a long while ago to preserve integrity rebuilding.
JSG could've done this by sorting out Poppysunshine or by a suitable response in defence - the silence is deafening.
Credit to Silky also, for letting this one run.
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JetSet Graffiti, by nah on Feb 20, 2010 13:25:57 GMT 1, the only thing i dont get is why JSG would actually need to scam people? by the looks of it he has some of the best contacts/recourses in the business, why not just be legit about running the whole thing? weird
the only thing i dont get is why JSG would actually need to scam people? by the looks of it he has some of the best contacts/recourses in the business, why not just be legit about running the whole thing? weird
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JetSet Graffiti, by boaty on Feb 20, 2010 14:59:55 GMT 1, As the old saying goes:
"If you can't be famous...be infamous".....
As the old saying goes:
"If you can't be famous...be infamous".....
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JetSet Graffiti, by boatboy on Feb 20, 2010 15:35:54 GMT 1, He seems to have gone awfully quiet. Guilty by the looks of it.
He seems to have gone awfully quiet. Guilty by the looks of it.
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