[Neate Michael]

If you look at the RP website: www.redpropeller.co.uk/section158493_121844.html

the majority of Guy's work remains unsold.

Do you think the reason for this, is that the board hyped Guy up, bought all his old pieces and that his fans on here now all have pieces, and outside the board his name means nothing to anybody hence RP put up the prices and nobosy buys them?

Or am I wrong in thinking the board is that powerful? But if not, high prices cannot be the only reason for lack of sales, because other artists have seen huge increases (Mat Small, Ian Francis) and they sell...

And is Lister the new Denning? His prints over at Elms did not fly off the shelves did they? And Choe's are not flying off the shelf either are they... was he a one print wonder? (albeit two versions)..

Possibly I just think too much...

[Dellboyy]

Personally i love Guy's work, and his new stuff looks great too. Only problem for me is i can't afford anywhere near the kind of prices they're asking... even with the price cut (which was pretty good of them!).

[dave313perry]

too expensive now, leaving the core audience behind im afraid and putting Guy up there in a price bracket with some very very good artists highly desireable artists far too soon IMO.

[njr911]

I personally find it a bit too morbid! Twin towers and planes isn't something I'd want on my walls. And the faces all look glum (or dead!)...bet he's a right laugh to live with

All imho obviously!

[italiano]

His new work is brilliant. Maybe priced too high initially

[carlito]

his work at the prices they were a year ago were a steal..now the prices have left most of us behind...if they'd remained in the ball park of what they were I'd own a good few of his pieces..instead of none as it is....

[Daniel Silk]

Yeah I think they have jumped the gun a bit.

They needed to wait to build up a bigger following before having a go at bumping up the prices I seem to remember advising them to keep the prices low.

[carlito]

I guess the good thing with the massive price hike...is that its lining Guy's pocket rather than the secondary market..still a real shame tho love his work and never will be able to afford an oil painting of his now...

[mcnuts]

i quite like a lot of his stuff too but simply cant afford it (there is a forum member on here who has his favourite piece of mine and I will be forever jealous). The imagery of the new stuff is intentionally abrasive and uncomfortable and, to be honest, even if I did have the money don’t know if I would want it on my wall. Having said this, I do have an appreciation for guy’s ethos and talent. Just too pricey for me now.

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I have literally just come back from Red Propeller Gallery..

I am currently uploading all the remaining (plus sold) pieces, once complete, (cost me £12 to update my flickr to pro..so you best enjoy them!)I will post them here..they are not hung up, so they look even better to me!

15mins as my computer is painfully slow..

Prices increase would not deter me if I had the available funds..am skint at the mo, so relatively unaffected!

Hope to see his work become affordable to all again..

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White Icarus..

[mcnuts]

bigman said:

mcnuts said:

i quite like a lot of his stuff too but simply cant afford it (there is a forum member on here who has his favourite piece of mine and I will be forever jealous). The imagery of the new stuff is intentionally abrasive and uncomfortable and, to be honest, even if I did have the money don’t know if I would want it on my wall. Having said this, I do have an appreciation for guy’s ethos and talent. Just too pricey for me now.

can i make a guess at harveyn?

nope. was a piece from 2006 i think that a forum member bought the day before I tried to (mrs didnt like it anyway!). anyway guy's archive is removed from his site otherwise i'd post it up here.

[Daniel Silk]

carlito said:

his work at the prices they were a year ago were a steal..now the prices have left most of us behind...if they'd remained in the ball park of what they were I'd own a good few of his pieces..instead of none as it is....

Dint you sell a nice original Guy Denning?

[scavos]

Harvyn's is rather special isn't it!

I gather there were some issues around covering rental costs in inner city London that contributed toward the hike in prices. No doubt the £8000 piece at Bonhams played its part too. I think the fact RP brought the prices down, after negotiating with the gallery speaks volumes in terms of having a flexible approach and listening to customers. I respect them for that.
As with everything, there's always more going on in the background that we know nothing about.

The fact is Guy's work is steadily increasing in popularity and this latest price hike was initially too high. Time will tell if the prices are now pitched at the right level. His work is consistently strong and unapologetically powerful and romantic. Arguably his strongest body of work yet.

A couple of points that I remind myself about are:
1) RP is not the only source of Denning work and therefore prices will no doubt vary. They'd better do or my hopes of owning a canvas are probably gone.

2) Denning has been painting for years and it would be ridiculous to believe that just because many paintings from his latest show remain unsold at this moment in time means the end is nigh!

I think the less we view artists like horses to back the more we can enjoy/hate/ignore their work with genuine passion. Don't get me wrong, I'm not preaching about financial rights and wrongs and I welcome a thread that opens the discussion, but it seems we all too readily reflect the way British media builds people up to only knock them back down again when we see fit.

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scavos said:

Harvyn's is rather special isn't it!

I gather there were some issues around covering rental costs in inner city London that contributed toward the hike in prices. No doubt the £8000 piece at Bonhams played its part too. I think the fact RP brought the prices down, after negotiating with the gallery speaks volumes in terms of having a flexible approach and listening to customers. I respect them for that.
As with everything, there's always more going on in the background that we know nothing about.

The fact is Guy's work is steadily increasing in popularity and this latest price hike was initially too high. Time will tell if the prices are now pitched at the right level. His work is consistently strong and unapologetically powerful and romantic. Arguably his strongest body of work yet.

A couple of points that I remind myself about are:
1) RP is not the only source of Denning work and therefore prices will no doubt vary. They'd better do or my hopes of owning a canvas are probably gone.

2) Denning has been painting for years and it would be ridiculous to believe that just because many paintings from his latest show remain unsold at this moment in time means the end is nigh!

I think the less we view artists like horses to back the more we can enjoy/hate/ignore their work with genuine passion. Don't get me wrong, I'm not preaching about financial rights and wrongs and I welcome a thread that opens the discussion, but it seems we all too readily reflect the way British media builds people up to only knock them back down again when we see fit.

..nicely put

[carlito]

admin said:

carlito said:

his work at the prices they were a year ago were a steal..now the prices have left most of us behind...if they'd remained in the ball park of what they were I'd own a good few of his pieces..instead of none as it is....

Dint you sell a nice original Guy Denning?

yep I did? And? its called buying a home and having to make tough decisions...would like to own a piece in the future but impossible now unfortunately

[loucastel]

I think perhaps one of the reasons this exhidition didnt do so well is the subject metter, because i think the ones that was'nt so 9/11 orientated did sell, trouble is the subject has been done to death, and I personaly find it very depressing let alone have one on my wall, Guys style is intentionaly dark, but this just seems to highlight it a bit too much. I look forward to his next exhibition, although as others have said already it looks like he is being pushed to the next level,price wise, time will tell.

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Think we need to remember that Guy paints the images in his head onto canvas. Got to get them out, so even if they don't always appeal, it may be a factor to consider.


I'm sure he has a lot up his sleeve for upcoming shows..

Pretty sure he will move in a different direction to the 9/11 pieces..

Look forward to more portraits and new subject matter

[dave313perry]

loucastel said:

I think perhaps one of the reasons this exhidition didnt do so well is the subject metter, because i think the ones that was'nt so 9/11 orientated did sell, trouble is the subject has been done to death, and I personaly find it very depressing let alone have one on my wall, Guys style is intentionaly dark, but this just seems to highlight it a bit too much. I look forward to his next exhibition, although as others have said already it looks like he is being pushed to the next level,price wise, time will tell.

Agreed 100%, the 9/11, and inparticular the twin towers imagery is just too obvious IMO - still a huge fan though, this body of work just not for me, price wise or content

[Daniel Silk]

I really like the 9/11 images, they are just so strong.
Just wondering what would have happened if he had shown them in a Gallery in New York?

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admin said:

I really like the 9/11 images, they are just so strong.
Just wondering what would have happened if he had shown them in a Gallery in New York?

..I expect Guy's work will be featured in the States some point in the next year or so..

;D ;D ;D

[craigf]

Agree with most of the posts, pieces are very nice, some of the subject matter may be difficult to have on the wall, but for me price is the main issue (too high for me, however not necessarily too high in general)

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..as promised






















..one too dark to photo due to glare.

..if you get the chance..see them in the flesh..you know why

[loucastel]

Guy is a fantasticaly talented artist, if I had a fraction of his talent I would be a happy man, as for his prices, difficult one that, seems like a funny week with all these artists suddenly hitting new highs, obviously now out of range for a lot of people on here, just have to start looking out for some new affordable up and coming artists.

[pramface]

if i was a fan of manic depressive, morbid, camp and faintly homoerotic artwork then great.
but i'm not

[carlito]

not a big fan of morrissey then eh?

[pramface]

aren't they the same person?

[rurualhick]

1. NICHE APPEAL
2. YOU CAN ONLY GET SO FAR WITH THE "MICALLEF" ENDORSEMENT
3. RP LOOKS TERRIBLE FIRST TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE IN STREET SCENE HYSTERIA
4. BAD SIGN FOR AN ARTIST IN AN EMERGING SCENE

[rhodesy2112]

marblemarch said:

if i was a fan of manic depressive, morbid, camp and faintly homoerotic artwork then great.
but i'm not

The fact that tasteless swine like yourself do not like Guy's work is merely a further endorsement as far as I am concerned. I guess he's just not quite "shoreditch" enough for a lot of people. Go buy some more giclee prints of some disney characters holding guns.....no, no, wait...how about some star wars characters...oh how ironic we are, how very urban.

[pramface]

eh? hello guy

what the fuck do you know about my 'tastes'? fyi the only giclees i own are by adam neate

obviously you relate to tortured images of half naked men better than i do