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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by finsburyparkranger on Oct 14, 2007 18:09:16 GMT 1, I think the main point here is that Bloomsbury is NOT an esteemed auction house whereas Sothebys and Bonhams are
Surly this means that if you want to buy from auction you do it at Bloomsbury whilst checking the prov yourself because this way you will get a much better price than from the older auction houses where you are basically paying them to garantee the prov which for a bansky with sig, stamp + reciept for example you don't need another person to tell you its kosher. Also the other bonus is that you will be up against less millionaires than necessary.
I think the main point here is that Bloomsbury is NOT an esteemed auction house whereas Sothebys and Bonhams are Surly this means that if you want to buy from auction you do it at Bloomsbury whilst checking the prov yourself because this way you will get a much better price than from the older auction houses where you are basically paying them to garantee the prov which for a bansky with sig, stamp + reciept for example you don't need another person to tell you its kosher. Also the other bonus is that you will be up against less millionaires than necessary. |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 14, 2007 18:10:39 GMT 1, just some random comments...
1. There will be a "crash" as theres just soo much mediocre at best stuff that wouldnt have sold for 10 dollars in the past. Inventory levels growing exponentially overnight ie. micallef
2. I don't think theres too many who spend Β£5000 on a banksy print whose primary reason for purchase is that it'll double. It would be nice but these buyers are already well off.
3. Bloomsbury is not an esteemed auction house thats for sure.
4. Banksy is the only one who will be guaranteed to get mentioned in art circles in the future.
5. The term "Stunning" is used way too much on this forum
just some random comments...
1. There will be a "crash" as theres just soo much mediocre at best stuff that wouldnt have sold for 10 dollars in the past. Inventory levels growing exponentially overnight ie. micallef
2. I don't think theres too many who spend Β£5000 on a banksy print whose primary reason for purchase is that it'll double. It would be nice but these buyers are already well off.
3. Bloomsbury is not an esteemed auction house thats for sure.
4. Banksy is the only one who will be guaranteed to get mentioned in art circles in the future.
5. The term "Stunning" is used way too much on this forum
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 18:54:56 GMT 1, Bloomsbury may not be Christies but it is a respected auction house. Crash I think we're seeing it begin. The Micallef prints that everyone was insane for 2-3 weeks ago I just noticed are selling for about Β£1100 on ebay. (Which by the way I think are GREAT prints) But I wouldn't be surprised to see them go for less than retail shortly. I told you the party was over then. When amateurs and jokers line up 24 hours in advance to "double their money" that's a clear sign things have gotten stupid and people are about to get burned.
You're right there's too many prints and the hype got so overwhelming earlier this year that I think we're seeing a reaction against it now. And yeah, I'm speculating but I think there were quite a few people who charged Β£5000+ earlier this year and justified it by thinking they would be able to make money off it if they needed to sell. With a few standouts here and there lots of stuff in ebay is not hitting the sellers reserves or going for well under prices from spring & early summer, even decent Banksy prints.
Bloomsbury may not be Christies but it is a respected auction house. Crash I think we're seeing it begin. The Micallef prints that everyone was insane for 2-3 weeks ago I just noticed are selling for about Β£1100 on ebay. (Which by the way I think are GREAT prints) But I wouldn't be surprised to see them go for less than retail shortly. I told you the party was over then. When amateurs and jokers line up 24 hours in advance to "double their money" that's a clear sign things have gotten stupid and people are about to get burned.
You're right there's too many prints and the hype got so overwhelming earlier this year that I think we're seeing a reaction against it now. And yeah, I'm speculating but I think there were quite a few people who charged Β£5000+ earlier this year and justified it by thinking they would be able to make money off it if they needed to sell. With a few standouts here and there lots of stuff in ebay is not hitting the sellers reserves or going for well under prices from spring & early summer, even decent Banksy prints.
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by numusic on Oct 14, 2007 18:56:52 GMT 1, Are you ranting? Venting? What's your point? I've seen plenty of people who bought Banksy prints for 50 quid come on this forum and try to squeeze thousands out of people. Are these the people into "Banksy's work and values" you speak of? You got a point? 
Yeah, the point being that the majority on here are genuine fans of banksy, street art, graf and art in general, so not sure who you're having a go at, maybe be a bit more specific.. the few that arn't fans or those buying with their ears instead of their eyes..well, who gives a toss. Their loss hey ? It's only money, we were here before em, and we'll be here long after they've moved on to the "next big thing" their lives being no richer than when they arrived, 
edit : as for having a go at those that had the foresight to buy a few years back and are now reaping the benefits... good for them hey..
Are you ranting? Venting? What's your point? I've seen plenty of people who bought Banksy prints for 50 quid come on this forum and try to squeeze thousands out of people. Are these the people into "Banksy's work and values" you speak of? You got a point? Yeah, the point being that the majority on here are genuine fans of banksy, street art, graf and art in general, so not sure who you're having a go at, maybe be a bit more specific.. the few that arn't fans or those buying with their ears instead of their eyes..well, who gives a toss. Their loss hey ? It's only money, we were here before em, and we'll be here long after they've moved on to the "next big thing" their lives being no richer than when they arrived, edit : as for having a go at those that had the foresight to buy a few years back and are now reaping the benefits... good for them hey.. |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 19:26:55 GMT 1,
I have respect for people who bought this stuff several years ago. I don't have respect for people who have tried to "negotiate" thousands out of me for their Β£50 print. I won't bore with examples.
But those prints have been out there for YEARS already. And if they get "REALLY" expensive I now have 2600 other Mic prints to choose from at better prices that just came out via POW and Laz.
Even "genuine" fans need to buy sell and swutch up their collection sometimes. I know of prints that are MUCH harder to find than any Micallef print yet that doesn't mean that prices are on a one way ticket up. And editions of 95 aren't really that small.
Or if the whole scene or art market in general tanks.
I have respect for people who bought this stuff several years ago. I don't have respect for people who have tried to "negotiate" thousands out of me for their Β£50 print. I won't bore with examples.
But those prints have been out there for YEARS already. And if they get "REALLY" expensive I now have 2600 other Mic prints to choose from at better prices that just came out via POW and Laz.
Even "genuine" fans need to buy sell and swutch up their collection sometimes. I know of prints that are MUCH harder to find than any Micallef print yet that doesn't mean that prices are on a one way ticket up. And editions of 95 aren't really that small.
Or if the whole scene or art market in general tanks.
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by manty on Oct 14, 2007 19:28:50 GMT 1, I think the main point here is that Bloomsbury is NOT an esteemed auction house whereas Sothebys and Bonhams are Surly this means that if you want to buy from auction you do it at Bloomsbury whilst checking the prov yourself because this way you will get a much better price than from the older auction houses where you are basically paying them to garantee the prov which for a bansky with sig, stamp + reciept for example you don't need another person to tell you its kosher. Also the other bonus is that you will be up against less millionaires than necessary.
Yep, I suppose your right, I hadnt looked it like that :-) I was looking at it from a sellers point of view. 
Looking at what they were offering I could have put my citygirl 150 print in this auction. And then complained that it didnt sell for Β£900, and that the end is nigh, the sky is going to fall on our heads etc etc.
Thats why it doesnt attract the right kind of buyer, which in turn doesnt get the price the pieces would get even on fleabay.
If you had a very good original banksy piece would you use bloomsburys or sothebys to sell it ?
All IMHO of course
I think the main point here is that Bloomsbury is NOT an esteemed auction house whereas Sothebys and Bonhams are Surly this means that if you want to buy from auction you do it at Bloomsbury whilst checking the prov yourself because this way you will get a much better price than from the older auction houses where you are basically paying them to garantee the prov which for a bansky with sig, stamp + reciept for example you don't need another person to tell you its kosher. Also the other bonus is that you will be up against less millionaires than necessary. Yep, I suppose your right, I hadnt looked it like that :-) I was looking at it from a sellers point of view. Looking at what they were offering I could have put my citygirl 150 print in this auction. And then complained that it didnt sell for Β£900, and that the end is nigh, the sky is going to fall on our heads etc etc. Thats why it doesnt attract the right kind of buyer, which in turn doesnt get the price the pieces would get even on fleabay. If you had a very good original banksy piece would you use bloomsburys or sothebys to sell it ? All IMHO of course |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by numusic on Oct 14, 2007 19:37:19 GMT 1, endtimes.. good name ya old doom mongerer.. right, there's gonna be a readjustment/crash (call it what you will) in the contemporary art market..not sure when.. 2 months, 6, A year, maybe two... people buying from the secondary market at inflated prices in order to sell on the secondary market at a later date in the hope or making a massive profit are gonna come unstuck.
is that it ?
endtimes.. good name ya old doom mongerer.. right, there's gonna be a readjustment/crash (call it what you will) in the contemporary art market..not sure when.. 2 months, 6, A year, maybe two... people buying from the secondary market at inflated prices in order to sell on the secondary market at a later date in the hope or making a massive profit are gonna come unstuck.
is that it ?
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by verbalkint on Oct 14, 2007 19:38:45 GMT 1, the last year has proved one thing, that the market is unpredictable. No one knows where the prices will be in a year, this is a brand new market in its infancy. Not enough time has gone by to spot trends and buying patterns. It plays by the same principles of all other markets, it is swelled by confidence, but knowing when moods will change is impossible. No one can say people are definatly going to get burned, no one can say its a good time to buy (with any authority)
no one knows what will happen, but if you avoid the value issue and buy for the love of art then you cannot really go wrong. 2007 has been the year of the print and the secondary market for them, will 2008 be any different? Who knows
the last year has proved one thing, that the market is unpredictable. No one knows where the prices will be in a year, this is a brand new market in its infancy. Not enough time has gone by to spot trends and buying patterns. It plays by the same principles of all other markets, it is swelled by confidence, but knowing when moods will change is impossible. No one can say people are definatly going to get burned, no one can say its a good time to buy (with any authority)
no one knows what will happen, but if you avoid the value issue and buy for the love of art then you cannot really go wrong. 2007 has been the year of the print and the secondary market for them, will 2008 be any different? Who knows
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 19:49:39 GMT 1,
I never said I was an optimist. 
And you're close but you're missing the point which I've only really alluded to I guess.
I'm not just ranting about the "expensive prints" as much as the greed and corruption all over the place that has caused it. (Even people in POW have now been exposed as corrupt although they are supposed to be about bringing afforable art to the masses) I think it's all ruining this scene and there is going to be a stigma forever about it being overrun with greed and hysteria. I bet the price hysteria is talked about as much as the art in the history books. This will have an effect on many levels.
I never said I was an optimist. And you're close but you're missing the point which I've only really alluded to I guess. I'm not just ranting about the "expensive prints" as much as the greed and corruption all over the place that has caused it. (Even people in POW have now been exposed as corrupt although they are supposed to be about bringing afforable art to the masses) I think it's all ruining this scene and there is going to be a stigma forever about it being overrun with greed and hysteria. I bet the price hysteria is talked about as much as the art in the history books. This will have an effect on many levels. |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by pezlow on Oct 14, 2007 19:55:16 GMT 1, Exactly verbal. All these prophets of doom going "I told you so" at every little opportunity is all getting rather tedious. Endtimes has posted 77 times on this forum and, apart from one great heads up in the Β£50 print category, I have yet to see ONE SINGLE post by him that doesn't talk about the market and the crash. And I haven't gone through all the posts he has done so I may be misinterpreting.
Bottom line is that most people know that this market is due for a correction but since most people who regularly post on this forum are collectors, we're pretty bored of talking about it.
Exactly verbal. All these prophets of doom going "I told you so" at every little opportunity is all getting rather tedious. Endtimes has posted 77 times on this forum and, apart from one great heads up in the Β£50 print category, I have yet to see ONE SINGLE post by him that doesn't talk about the market and the crash. And I haven't gone through all the posts he has done so I may be misinterpreting.
Bottom line is that most people know that this market is due for a correction but since most people who regularly post on this forum are collectors, we're pretty bored of talking about it.
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by CR on Oct 14, 2007 19:57:35 GMT 1, Exactly verbal. All these prophets of doom going "I told you so" at every little opportunity is all getting rather tedious. Endtimes has posted 77 times on this forum and, apart from one great heads up in the Β£50 print category, I have yet to see ONE SINGLE post by him that doesn't talk about the market and the crash. And I haven't gone through all the posts he has done so I may be misinterpreting. Bottom line is that most people know that this market is due for a correction but since most people who regularly post on this forum are collectors, we're pretty bored of talking about it.
here here Pez!!
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Exactly verbal. All these prophets of doom going "I told you so" at every little opportunity is all getting rather tedious. Endtimes has posted 77 times on this forum and, apart from one great heads up in the Β£50 print category, I have yet to see ONE SINGLE post by him that doesn't talk about the market and the crash. And I haven't gone through all the posts he has done so I may be misinterpreting. Bottom line is that most people know that this market is due for a correction but since most people who regularly post on this forum are collectors, we're pretty bored of talking about it. here here Pez!! CR |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 19:58:58 GMT 1, Well I have talked about things other than the price of things many times here.
If you'll see my post above maybe that will cut there the verbage. It's not just about I told you so and expensive prints it's about how the greed right now and this year will have an effect on the scene in general and far into the future and I don't think it will be good. Great for the people who made tons of money now but I think it will be a negative for future generations. The dynamic of this scene will change drastically after the dust settles. But no one wants to recognize this. So be it. 
Well I have talked about things other than the price of things many times here. If you'll see my post above maybe that will cut there the verbage. It's not just about I told you so and expensive prints it's about how the greed right now and this year will have an effect on the scene in general and far into the future and I don't think it will be good. Great for the people who made tons of money now but I think it will be a negative for future generations. The dynamic of this scene will change drastically after the dust settles. But no one wants to recognize this. So be it. |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by pezlow on Oct 14, 2007 20:02:19 GMT 1, But no one wants to recognize this. So be it.
Oh for crying out loud this is exactly what I was talking about. For the last time WE ALL RECOGNIZE IT. It's just that I think most people are pretty bored talking about it.
But no one wants to recognize this. So be it. Oh for crying out loud this is exactly what I was talking about. For the last time WE ALL RECOGNIZE IT. It's just that I think most people are pretty bored talking about it. |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 20:03:25 GMT 1, You all RECOGNIZE that the prices "might" go down. But I've never heard anyone talk about further ramifications of it all...
You all RECOGNIZE that the prices "might" go down. But I've never heard anyone talk about further ramifications of it all...
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by numusic on Oct 14, 2007 20:04:20 GMT 1, I never said I was an optimist. And you're close but you're missing the point which I've only really alluded to I guess. I'm not just ranting about the "expensive prints" and the greed and corruption that has caused it. (Even people in POW have now been exposed as corrupt although they are supposed to be about bringing afforable art to the masses) I think it's all ruining this scene and there is going to be a stigma forever about this scene associated with the greed and hysteria and not the art. This is not a good thing in my opinon and will have an effect on many levels.
Probelm with that theory is this kind of myopic view of the scene that a lot of people seem to have developed. Probably due to just being interested in the print side of things or the pr/media machine, but honestly.. it's sooo much bigger than this lil old forum, laz, banksy, auctions whoever.. it exists on a truly phenomenal scale.. from Europe to Australia to the US, the Middle East, Africa, China...
It's a global movement that's caught the imagination of so many people.. forget this little POW/LAZ/Elms nonesense.. they're businesses..set up primarily to make a profit for the owners and shareholders via a love of subversive art. All well and good..they do their bit.. but their influence is minimal...the blip in the late 80's when the graffiti/gallery cross over imploded.. it didn't have an effect on Graffiti.. people learned and moved on, hence Obey, Banksy etc... I've said it before.. but it's here to stay and I can only see it developing better and more interesting strategies to engage us with.
Rather than the doom and gloom.. I can only really see positive things happening for street art and artists in the future. There's some amazing stuff out there.
I never said I was an optimist. And you're close but you're missing the point which I've only really alluded to I guess. I'm not just ranting about the "expensive prints" and the greed and corruption that has caused it. (Even people in POW have now been exposed as corrupt although they are supposed to be about bringing afforable art to the masses) I think it's all ruining this scene and there is going to be a stigma forever about this scene associated with the greed and hysteria and not the art. This is not a good thing in my opinon and will have an effect on many levels. Probelm with that theory is this kind of myopic view of the scene that a lot of people seem to have developed. Probably due to just being interested in the print side of things or the pr/media machine, but honestly.. it's sooo much bigger than this lil old forum, laz, banksy, auctions whoever.. it exists on a truly phenomenal scale.. from Europe to Australia to the US, the Middle East, Africa, China... It's a global movement that's caught the imagination of so many people.. forget this little POW/LAZ/Elms nonesense.. they're businesses..set up primarily to make a profit for the owners and shareholders via a love of subversive art. All well and good..they do their bit.. but their influence is minimal...the blip in the late 80's when the graffiti/gallery cross over imploded.. it didn't have an effect on Graffiti.. people learned and moved on, hence Obey, Banksy etc... I've said it before.. but it's here to stay and I can only see it developing better and more interesting strategies to engage us with. Rather than the doom and gloom.. I can only really see positive things happening for street art and artists in the future. There's some amazing stuff out there. |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by pezlow on Oct 14, 2007 20:06:19 GMT 1, Well said Nu. The voice of positivity strikes again
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by pezlow on Oct 14, 2007 20:07:21 GMT 1, You all RECOGNIZE that the prices "might" go down. But I've never heard anyone talk about further ramifications of it all...
What might be these "further ramifications". If they involve baggers and flippers fucking off and leaving this scene to people who love the art then bring it on...
You all RECOGNIZE that the prices "might" go down. But I've never heard anyone talk about further ramifications of it all... What might be these "further ramifications". If they involve baggers and flippers fucking off and leaving this scene to people who love the art then bring it on... |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by finsburyparkranger on Oct 14, 2007 20:13:32 GMT 1,
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 20:18:28 GMT 1, For starters people "who love the art" are getting f*&cked over by baggers and flippers and even real art fans who are also greedy bastards. And now they get a bad taste for the scene and don't want to be associated with it or lose their taste for art collecting.
For another thing the fact that this scene will now be associated more with the hype, greed, hysteria and corruption than the art and it might not get its just due. I bet that is the first thing that will come to mind in 20 years when people reflect about this scene. And if this scene does tank don't you think the next time a street artists starts to hit it big 'a la Banksy' that the art world is going to step back and be like, uh no thanks, we made that mistake once. And if you think that bodes well for the next generation of street artists great!
For starters people "who love the art" are getting f*&cked over by baggers and flippers and even real art fans who are also greedy bastards. And now they get a bad taste for the scene and don't want to be associated with it or lose their taste for art collecting.
For another thing the fact that this scene will now be associated more with the hype, greed, hysteria and corruption than the art and it might not get its just due. I bet that is the first thing that will come to mind in 20 years when people reflect about this scene. And if this scene does tank don't you think the next time a street artists starts to hit it big 'a la Banksy' that the art world is going to step back and be like, uh no thanks, we made that mistake once. And if you think that bodes well for the next generation of street artists great!
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by pezlow on Oct 14, 2007 20:23:49 GMT 1, Number of Banksy prints in circulation - 30,000??? (tops)
Number of wall and piece books in circulation - approx 2 million
Number of articles in the press about Banksys street art and stunts - loads
Number of article in the press about the inflated street art market for prints and canvasses - very few.
This scene is about so much more than a few limited edition prints. The first sentence of your second paragraph is so wrong.
Number of Banksy prints in circulation - 30,000??? (tops)
Number of wall and piece books in circulation - approx 2 million
Number of articles in the press about Banksys street art and stunts - loads
Number of article in the press about the inflated street art market for prints and canvasses - very few.
This scene is about so much more than a few limited edition prints. The first sentence of your second paragraph is so wrong.
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by motor on Oct 14, 2007 20:34:04 GMT 1, Endtimes,
for fuck sake get a room!
I understand this is a public forum but all I can see is you just jerking off the gloom and doom
based on one auction which took place at the wrong time and the wrong place.
Come back in a year time and will see.
Just had to say this...
Feel free to continue
Endtimes, for fuck sake get a room! I understand this is a public forum but all I can see is you just jerking off the gloom and doom based on one auction which took place at the wrong time and the wrong place. Come back in a year time and will see. Just had to say this... Feel free to continue |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 20:48:57 GMT 1, I guess we just have different opinons.
You are irate at me for saying hey, hold on wait a second, all this greed is going to destroy this scene. Fine.
Me, I'm irate at people trying to extort thousands of dollars out of people for a print. I'm irate at people STILL trying to claim that prices have no place to go but up, and then they'll level off. Not a negative word from you all about the people that are still here trying to feed this greed and hysteria and oh my god there are only 95 prints etc. Fine.
I guess we just have different opinons.
You are irate at me for saying hey, hold on wait a second, all this greed is going to destroy this scene. Fine.
Me, I'm irate at people trying to extort thousands of dollars out of people for a print. I'm irate at people STILL trying to claim that prices have no place to go but up, and then they'll level off. Not a negative word from you all about the people that are still here trying to feed this greed and hysteria and oh my god there are only 95 prints etc. Fine.
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by stuey09 on Oct 14, 2007 20:54:28 GMT 1, I think the issue is that you are playing the same old record. Once your point has been made there is no need to keep reinforcing it. There are plenty of people who will agree with your point, but those that don't won't be persuaded by repeated posts.
I think the issue is that you are playing the same old record. Once your point has been made there is no need to keep reinforcing it. There are plenty of people who will agree with your point, but those that don't won't be persuaded by repeated posts.
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by finsburyparkranger on Oct 14, 2007 20:57:20 GMT 1, In the publics mind banksy is a graffiti artist and they don't know that banksy sells prints (thank god). The big story is that there is this guy that could be anyone that pops up and does art normal people really like and its free. Thats what people will remember. This forum and us crazies and the print market are fairly insignificant as far as the banksy legend will be remembered. We're like the obsesives that may have hung around Da Vinci. Its the art that gets remembered.
In the publics mind banksy is a graffiti artist and they don't know that banksy sells prints (thank god). The big story is that there is this guy that could be anyone that pops up and does art normal people really like and its free. Thats what people will remember. This forum and us crazies and the print market are fairly insignificant as far as the banksy legend will be remembered. We're like the obsesives that may have hung around Da Vinci. Its the art that gets remembered.
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by numusic on Oct 14, 2007 21:01:48 GMT 1, Its the art that gets remembered.
Fuck, you mean the Nu effect was all in vain ?.. damn !
Its the art that gets remembered. Fuck, you mean the Nu effect was all in vain ?.. damn ! |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by finsburyparkranger on Oct 14, 2007 21:08:18 GMT 1, Its the art that gets remembered. f**k, you mean the Nu effect was all in vain ?.. damn !
The NU effect will no doubt be reflected in the 7 figure sale price on some 6 o'clock news program in 2047. ;D
Its the art that gets remembered. f**k, you mean the Nu effect was all in vain ?.. damn ! The NU effect will no doubt be reflected in the 7 figure sale price on some 6 o'clock news program in 2047. ;D |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by mcnuts on Oct 14, 2007 21:09:23 GMT 1, f**k, you mean the Nu effect was all in vain ?.. damn ! The NU effect will no doubt be reflected in the 7 figure sale price on some 6 o'clock news program in 2047. ;D
it will also no doubt be the subject of a number of doctoral dissertations written on the street art period
f**k, you mean the Nu effect was all in vain ?.. damn ! The NU effect will no doubt be reflected in the 7 figure sale price on some 6 o'clock news program in 2047. ;D it will also no doubt be the subject of a number of doctoral dissertations written on the street art period |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by stuey09 on Oct 14, 2007 21:11:22 GMT 1, The NU effect will no doubt be reflected in the 7 figure sale price on some 6 o'clock news program in 2047. ;D it will also no doubt be the subject of a number of doctoral dissertations written on the street art period
Speaking of which, hows yours coming along?
The NU effect will no doubt be reflected in the 7 figure sale price on some 6 o'clock news program in 2047. ;D it will also no doubt be the subject of a number of doctoral dissertations written on the street art period Speaking of which, hows yours coming along? |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by numusic on Oct 14, 2007 21:14:29 GMT 1, f**k, you mean the Nu effect was all in vain ?.. damn ! The NU effect will no doubt be reflected in the 7 figure sale price on some 6 o'clock news program in 2047. ;D
Knew there had to be a reason for having a kid ! just gotta hide all the crayons for the next 8 or 9 years and he'll be minted one day
f**k, you mean the Nu effect was all in vain ?.. damn ! The NU effect will no doubt be reflected in the 7 figure sale price on some 6 o'clock news program in 2047. ;D Knew there had to be a reason for having a kid ! just gotta hide all the crayons for the next 8 or 9 years and he'll be minted one day |
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Bloomsbury Auctions π¬π§, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 21:16:02 GMT 1,
The headlines are equally often about the money, and it's apparent that people haven't gotten my point.
The headlines are equally often about the money, and it's apparent that people haven't gotten my point.
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