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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by fatherxmas on Jun 1, 2008 22:14:00 GMT 1, the people that wil be going to this auction are not the ones "effected by the credit crunch"
these are the people which create a market..ebay/this forum is a very small chunk of buyers.
The big money is always in the room (Auction) i predict another crazy outburst in prices
the people that wil be going to this auction are not the ones "effected by the credit crunch"
these are the people which create a market..ebay/this forum is a very small chunk of buyers.
The big money is always in the room (Auction) i predict another crazy outburst in prices
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jun 1, 2008 22:17:07 GMT 1, the people that wil be going to this auction are not the ones "effected by the credit crunch" these are the people which create a market..ebay/this forum is a very small chunk of buyers. The big money is always in the room (Auction) i predict another crazy outburst in prices
yeah right
i hear the big international players are clamouring for mudwig and eelus......
80% of the work in this auction is shite!
the people that wil be going to this auction are not the ones "effected by the credit crunch" these are the people which create a market..ebay/this forum is a very small chunk of buyers. The big money is always in the room (Auction) i predict another crazy outburst in prices yeah right i hear the big international players are clamouring for mudwig and eelus...... 80% of the work in this auction is shite! |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by fatherxmas on Jun 1, 2008 22:18:06 GMT 1, thats your opinion
like they say, everyone has a differnet look at different piece sof art.
thats your opinion
like they say, everyone has a differnet look at different piece sof art.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by jam on Jun 1, 2008 22:19:05 GMT 1, the people that wil be going to this auction are not the ones "effected by the credit crunch" these are the people which create a market..ebay/this forum is a very small chunk of buyers. The big money is always in the room (Auction) i predict another crazy outburst in prices
I have to agree. Ebay prices are the bottom of the barrel so to speak... yet for some reason, everyone sites them as the going rate. The majority of minted folks aren't buying on ebay (never would consider it) and ebay sales do not accurately reflect fair market as much as it shows what the 'I need to sell this right now, no matter how low' price is. While I don't think the auction has the best work, I would sill expect it to pack the room and bring strong money.
the people that wil be going to this auction are not the ones "effected by the credit crunch" these are the people which create a market..ebay/this forum is a very small chunk of buyers. The big money is always in the room (Auction) i predict another crazy outburst in prices I have to agree. Ebay prices are the bottom of the barrel so to speak... yet for some reason, everyone sites them as the going rate. The majority of minted folks aren't buying on ebay (never would consider it) and ebay sales do not accurately reflect fair market as much as it shows what the 'I need to sell this right now, no matter how low' price is. While I don't think the auction has the best work, I would sill expect it to pack the room and bring strong money. |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by spirit on Jun 1, 2008 22:20:55 GMT 1, A lot of the estimates (and therefore probably reserves) are set too high imo - I therefore imagine a lot of stuff won't sell.
A lot of the estimates (and therefore probably reserves) are set too high imo - I therefore imagine a lot of stuff won't sell.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jun 1, 2008 22:26:09 GMT 1, the people that wil be going to this auction are not the ones "effected by the credit crunch" these are the people which create a market..ebay/this forum is a very small chunk of buyers. The big money is always in the room (Auction) i predict another crazy outburst in prices I have to agree. Ebay prices are the bottom of the barrel so to speak... yet for some reason, everyone sites them as the going rate. The majority of minted folks aren't buying on ebay (never would consider it) and ebay sales do not accurately reflect fair market as much as it shows what the 'I need to sell this right now, no matter how low' price is. While I don't think the auction has the best work, I would sill expect it to pack the room and bring strong money.
jammy, ignorance and paying top whack for mediocre art doesn't make them the 'correct' pricing.
let's be honest here the banksy and neate work is all that stands out. maybe the walker mood board.
for the rest ebay is the natural home of their art not an auction house!
the people that wil be going to this auction are not the ones "effected by the credit crunch" these are the people which create a market..ebay/this forum is a very small chunk of buyers. The big money is always in the room (Auction) i predict another crazy outburst in prices I have to agree. Ebay prices are the bottom of the barrel so to speak... yet for some reason, everyone sites them as the going rate. The majority of minted folks aren't buying on ebay (never would consider it) and ebay sales do not accurately reflect fair market as much as it shows what the 'I need to sell this right now, no matter how low' price is. While I don't think the auction has the best work, I would sill expect it to pack the room and bring strong money. jammy, ignorance and paying top whack for mediocre art doesn't make them the 'correct' pricing. let's be honest here the banksy and neate work is all that stands out. maybe the walker mood board. for the rest ebay is the natural home of their art not an auction house! |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by fatherxmas on Jun 1, 2008 22:28:08 GMT 1, again thast your opinion
again thast your opinion
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jun 1, 2008 22:29:22 GMT 1, i think fx is talking a little sence for once!! ok not all artists will do big things but there were alot of new buyers etc at the drewartts preview, and i think it will surprise people at the auction the prices but only time will tell
i'm sure it will be suprising, because most of the work is so poor......
i think fx is talking a little sence for once!! ok not all artists will do big things but there were alot of new buyers etc at the drewartts preview, and i think it will surprise people at the auction the prices but only time will tell i'm sure it will be suprising, because most of the work is so poor...... |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jun 1, 2008 22:31:29 GMT 1,
yes, just like thinking d*face is a sound investment is yours!
yes, just like thinking d*face is a sound investment is yours! |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Heavyconsumer on Jun 1, 2008 22:34:06 GMT 1, Not all of the work is great, but there are enough great pieces in there to fill the room with serious buyers. There will be some among them who are more aware of the "smaller names" than others. It's impossible to predict how sales for most of the artists will go, but I maintain that Dreweatts have put together a fairly accurate snapshot of the scene today, with the works they've pulled together. I will find the results very interesting and I'm very curious to see how a lot of the work does. I also think their publicity will stand them in very good stead, in making aware all those that like to spend on trend.
Not all of the work is great, but there are enough great pieces in there to fill the room with serious buyers. There will be some among them who are more aware of the "smaller names" than others. It's impossible to predict how sales for most of the artists will go, but I maintain that Dreweatts have put together a fairly accurate snapshot of the scene today, with the works they've pulled together. I will find the results very interesting and I'm very curious to see how a lot of the work does. I also think their publicity will stand them in very good stead, in making aware all those that like to spend on trend.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jun 1, 2008 22:36:59 GMT 1, Not all of the work is great, but there are enough great pieces in there to fill the room with serious buyers. There will be some among them who are more aware of the "smaller names" than others. It's impossible to predict how sales for most of the artists will go, but I maintain that Dreweatts have put together a fairly accurate snapshot of the scene today, with the works they've pulled together. I will find the results very interesting and I'm very curious to see how a lot of the work does. I also think their publicity will stand them in very good stead, in making aware all those that like to spend on trend.
i'm sure that the smaller artists are fully aware that they will attract stronger than normal prices, which is why they stuffed the work in for auction THEMSELVES!
Not all of the work is great, but there are enough great pieces in there to fill the room with serious buyers. There will be some among them who are more aware of the "smaller names" than others. It's impossible to predict how sales for most of the artists will go, but I maintain that Dreweatts have put together a fairly accurate snapshot of the scene today, with the works they've pulled together. I will find the results very interesting and I'm very curious to see how a lot of the work does. I also think their publicity will stand them in very good stead, in making aware all those that like to spend on trend. i'm sure that the smaller artists are fully aware that they will attract stronger than normal prices, which is why they stuffed the work in for auction THEMSELVES! |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Eton Groover on Jun 1, 2008 22:42:19 GMT 1, For this scene, at the moment, I'm afraid they are.
If not what is? Paying a gallery twice as much?, o an auction price plus 20% for the house
For this scene, at the moment, I'm afraid they are.
If not what is? Paying a gallery twice as much?, o an auction price plus 20% for the house
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Jun 1, 2008 22:45:05 GMT 1, ebay and this forum are not the art market!!!!!!!
and a lot of the stuff in dreweatts does not belong anywhere near a serious art auction!
ebay and this forum are not the art market!!!!!!! and a lot of the stuff in dreweatts does not belong anywhere near a serious art auction! |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by fatherxmas on Jun 1, 2008 22:46:33 GMT 1, in your opinion ^^^^
in your opinion ^^^^
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by manty on Jun 1, 2008 22:47:10 GMT 1, Not all of the work is great, but there are enough great pieces in there to fill the room with serious buyers. There will be some among them who are more aware of the "smaller names" than others. It's impossible to predict how sales for most of the artists will go, but I maintain that Dreweatts have put together a fairly accurate snapshot of the scene today, with the works they've pulled together. I will find the results very interesting and I'm very curious to see how a lot of the work does. I also think their publicity will stand them in very good stead, in making aware all those that like to spend on trend.
Nice post
My view is
Will there be anyone 'serious' that wants anything other than 1 of the banksys for sale ?
Will 'serious' people even know about this auction?
I reckon over 80% of people there will be from this Forum, just having a look and taking the whole auction thing in which is pretty cool, and should be a fun evening
I think it will be a shockingly bad auction, prices will drop, doom and gloom will follow. Then Bonhams will do their Urban auction in October and life will be good again
Happy Sunday everyone :-)
Not all of the work is great, but there are enough great pieces in there to fill the room with serious buyers. There will be some among them who are more aware of the "smaller names" than others. It's impossible to predict how sales for most of the artists will go, but I maintain that Dreweatts have put together a fairly accurate snapshot of the scene today, with the works they've pulled together. I will find the results very interesting and I'm very curious to see how a lot of the work does. I also think their publicity will stand them in very good stead, in making aware all those that like to spend on trend. Nice post My view is Will there be anyone 'serious' that wants anything other than 1 of the banksys for sale ? Will 'serious' people even know about this auction? I reckon over 80% of people there will be from this Forum, just having a look and taking the whole auction thing in which is pretty cool, and should be a fun evening I think it will be a shockingly bad auction, prices will drop, doom and gloom will follow. Then Bonhams will do their Urban auction in October and life will be good again Happy Sunday everyone :-) |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by buffin on Jun 1, 2008 22:48:46 GMT 1, I think a lot of the lesser items will sell quite strongly judging by the number of first time buyers I saw leaving bids at the Selfridges preview. I also think that pieces from some of the lesser known artists will not be allowed to fail, if that makes sense.
I think a lot of the lesser items will sell quite strongly judging by the number of first time buyers I saw leaving bids at the Selfridges preview. I also think that pieces from some of the lesser known artists will not be allowed to fail, if that makes sense.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Jun 1, 2008 23:09:10 GMT 1, I think that with the widespread "Lull" in the economy certain sectors of the investment market are looking to invest in something other than property... that could be Art. Mary at Dreweatts knows her stuff, she is an art collector herself.I have dealt with auction houses including Dreweatts / Bonhams / Sothebys et al all of my working life (i am 71 now), i know auction houses like to estimate low to gather interest except when forced to put a high reserve on a lot at the sellers wishes, or a high estimate to hype something up, they act for the seller dont forget. This is the first UK auction of its type (Dedicated) that i know of..and others are booked post this one. Taking all these things into consideration i predict a huge success at Dreweatts sale and i also think that prices will exceed their estimates by far. This is of course just my opinion. I will attend the sale for a specific piece of work, i am willing to pay a good price for it because i love it and i want it for myself, its a real nice piece and i can afford to buy it (hopefully). Please dont throw stones at me now!!.
I think that with the widespread "Lull" in the economy certain sectors of the investment market are looking to invest in something other than property... that could be Art. Mary at Dreweatts knows her stuff, she is an art collector herself.I have dealt with auction houses including Dreweatts / Bonhams / Sothebys et al all of my working life (i am 71 now), i know auction houses like to estimate low to gather interest except when forced to put a high reserve on a lot at the sellers wishes, or a high estimate to hype something up, they act for the seller dont forget. This is the first UK auction of its type (Dedicated) that i know of..and others are booked post this one. Taking all these things into consideration i predict a huge success at Dreweatts sale and i also think that prices will exceed their estimates by far. This is of course just my opinion. I will attend the sale for a specific piece of work, i am willing to pay a good price for it because i love it and i want it for myself, its a real nice piece and i can afford to buy it (hopefully). Please dont throw stones at me now!!.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by manty on Jun 1, 2008 23:13:11 GMT 1, Wizbong. You know much more than me about these things and I hope your right.
I wish you the best of luck on your bidding :-)
Wizbong. You know much more than me about these things and I hope your right.
I wish you the best of luck on your bidding :-)
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Jun 1, 2008 23:16:42 GMT 1, Manty, i was just stating my opinion, i hope the market stays good i honestly do. As for the piece of work i want... i could have bought it from the Artist a few months ago but i dithered so now that will cost me haha, live and learn even at my age.
Manty, i was just stating my opinion, i hope the market stays good i honestly do. As for the piece of work i want... i could have bought it from the Artist a few months ago but i dithered so now that will cost me haha, live and learn even at my age.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by spirit on Jun 1, 2008 23:24:19 GMT 1,
Can you stop saying that please? Of course it's his opinion. Everything anyone says on here is their opinion. Unless God himself has recently signed up to the forum that's all you are ever going to hear. It is therefore unnecessary to keep pointing it out. thanks
Can you stop saying that please? Of course it's his opinion. Everything anyone says on here is their opinion. Unless God himself has recently signed up to the forum that's all you are ever going to hear. It is therefore unnecessary to keep pointing it out. thanks |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by spirit on Jun 1, 2008 23:28:57 GMT 1, I think that with the widespread "Lull" in the economy certain sectors of the investment market are looking to invest in something other than property... that could be Art. Mary at Dreweatts knows her stuff, she is an art collector herself.I have dealt with auction houses including Dreweatts / Bonhams / Sothebys et al all of my working life (i am 71 now), i know auction houses like to estimate low to gather interest except when forced to put a high reserve on a lot at the sellers wishes, or a high estimate to hype something up, they act for the seller dont forget. This is the first UK auction of its type (Dedicated) that i know of..and others are booked post this one. Taking all these things into consideration i predict a huge success at Dreweatts sale and i also think that prices will exceed their estimates by far. This is of course just my opinion. I will attend the sale for a specific piece of work, i am willing to pay a good price for it because i love it and i want it for myself, its a real nice piece and i can afford to buy it (hopefully). Please dont throw stones at me now!!.
Great post Wizbong, I hope you are right. 71! that may well make you the most senior member on the forum! It's an honour to have you here. I will have to start watching my language a bit more now tho...
I think that with the widespread "Lull" in the economy certain sectors of the investment market are looking to invest in something other than property... that could be Art. Mary at Dreweatts knows her stuff, she is an art collector herself.I have dealt with auction houses including Dreweatts / Bonhams / Sothebys et al all of my working life (i am 71 now), i know auction houses like to estimate low to gather interest except when forced to put a high reserve on a lot at the sellers wishes, or a high estimate to hype something up, they act for the seller dont forget. This is the first UK auction of its type (Dedicated) that i know of..and others are booked post this one. Taking all these things into consideration i predict a huge success at Dreweatts sale and i also think that prices will exceed their estimates by far. This is of course just my opinion. I will attend the sale for a specific piece of work, i am willing to pay a good price for it because i love it and i want it for myself, its a real nice piece and i can afford to buy it (hopefully). Please dont throw stones at me now!!. Great post Wizbong, I hope you are right. 71! that may well make you the most senior member on the forum! It's an honour to have you here. I will have to start watching my language a bit more now tho... |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Coach on Jun 1, 2008 23:30:37 GMT 1, Wizbong. Got me intrigued now. Let us know what the piece is after the auction, and whether you got it would you?
Good luck at the auction!
Wizbong. Got me intrigued now. Let us know what the piece is after the auction, and whether you got it would you?
Good luck at the auction!
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by felix on Jun 1, 2008 23:33:20 GMT 1, 71 thats definitely some sort of record, well done mate for keeping it real, wonder if i'll still be on the forum at your age on my 2,000,000 post  ;D
71 thats definitely some sort of record, well done mate for keeping it real, wonder if i'll still be on the forum at your age on my 2,000,000 post ;D |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Jun 1, 2008 23:34:27 GMT 1, Spirit, Dont have to watch your language for my sake.... i have heard it all and seen most of it in my life (up to now).... Best of luck to anyone who goes to bid at the sale, i hope its a great success.
Spirit, Dont have to watch your language for my sake.... i have heard it all and seen most of it in my life (up to now).... Best of luck to anyone who goes to bid at the sale, i hope its a great success.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Jun 1, 2008 23:42:57 GMT 1, Coach. Will tell you if i got it post sale, or if your at the sale and you see an elderly chap jumping in the air at the fall of the hammer... thats me. Im off now... whiskeyoclock.
Coach. Will tell you if i got it post sale, or if your at the sale and you see an elderly chap jumping in the air at the fall of the hammer... thats me. Im off now... whiskeyoclock.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by alsbabar on Jun 1, 2008 23:45:30 GMT 1, You will have seen the last few auctions, that pieces are not quite going for the prices one would have hoped. So potentially there are some real bargains to be had, with the exception of a few originals, you would ordinarily see majority of these items on Ebay, so nothing new there. I expect Adam Neate, Guy Denning to do well, along with Nick Walker, but there are a lot of weak/poor pieces in there. A Paul Insect Dunce Boy and Mona Simpson prints, (even though I would like to buy one), I wouldnt expect to see these at auction.
You will have seen the last few auctions, that pieces are not quite going for the prices one would have hoped. So potentially there are some real bargains to be had, with the exception of a few originals, you would ordinarily see majority of these items on Ebay, so nothing new there. I expect Adam Neate, Guy Denning to do well, along with Nick Walker, but there are a lot of weak/poor pieces in there. A Paul Insect Dunce Boy and Mona Simpson prints, (even though I would like to buy one), I wouldnt expect to see these at auction.
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by graeme501 on Jun 1, 2008 23:47:39 GMT 1, quality pieces and quality artists will sell for good prices,s**t pieces will do shit, its a no brainer really
quality pieces and quality artists will sell for good prices,s**t pieces will do shit, its a no brainer really
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by graeme501 on Jun 1, 2008 23:54:48 GMT 1, having looked at the catalogue again, there are some great pieces by artists such as banksy, micallef, neate, faile - these will attract the big buyers no doubt
whether when some1 gets outbid on adam neate portrait they will console themselves with a dr.d print is another thing entirely 
having looked at the catalogue again, there are some great pieces by artists such as banksy, micallef, neate, faile - these will attract the big buyers no doubt whether when some1 gets outbid on adam neate portrait they will console themselves with a dr.d print is another thing entirely |
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Dreweatts Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Jun 2, 2008 0:01:29 GMT 1, Graeme501, True but remember that you are knowledgeable about the art, you know these things, you know what sort of price things cost roughly and you know about the artists and their different works... whos good and whos better etc. but not everyone at the sale will know these things. Hope its a good one.
Graeme501, True but remember that you are knowledgeable about the art, you know these things, you know what sort of price things cost roughly and you know about the artists and their different works... whos good and whos better etc. but not everyone at the sale will know these things. Hope its a good one.
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