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expresso beans, by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 8:59:28 GMT 1, i was just wondering how acurate expresso beans is?. its not a site i've really looked at, but decided to check out the sales history for Nick Walkers Empire State. i was thinking that maybe 40 have been sold so far. i was suprised to see that only 21 have been sold. surely its more than that ?. who or how does the information get passed from ebay to Expresso Beans?
i was just wondering how acurate expresso beans is?. its not a site i've really looked at, but decided to check out the sales history for Nick Walkers Empire State. i was thinking that maybe 40 have been sold so far. i was suprised to see that only 21 have been sold. surely its more than that ?. who or how does the information get passed from ebay to Expresso Beans?
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hahaajp05
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expresso beans, by hahaajp05 on Mar 29, 2009 9:28:44 GMT 1, Sometimes not all prints that are sold are entered into the database. This could be due to the seller not entering in the info. Prints on ebay that are entered in the database will be kept track of but there a lot of instances where we don't catch them all. Any member can add an auction to the data base by simply copying and pasting the item number into the sales/trades tab in the ebay section. I think that the sales history is accurate depending on what print it is. Sometimes ebay prices can differ from prices that forum members would sell the print for. It does give you some type of idea of the market value of most prints. If not you can always ask around. I don't know much about the Nick Walker piece you're talking about though. I hope this helps. -Cece
Sometimes not all prints that are sold are entered into the database. This could be due to the seller not entering in the info. Prints on ebay that are entered in the database will be kept track of but there a lot of instances where we don't catch them all. Any member can add an auction to the data base by simply copying and pasting the item number into the sales/trades tab in the ebay section. I think that the sales history is accurate depending on what print it is. Sometimes ebay prices can differ from prices that forum members would sell the print for. It does give you some type of idea of the market value of most prints. If not you can always ask around. I don't know much about the Nick Walker piece you're talking about though. I hope this helps. -Cece
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expresso beans, by lobster on Mar 29, 2009 11:32:28 GMT 1, It does indeed but one thing I would know is how you work out the exchange rate - is it done at the rate on the day the piece is sold ? What about the original price - again I assume this is based on the rate at the time ?
Many thanks Nick
It does indeed but one thing I would know is how you work out the exchange rate - is it done at the rate on the day the piece is sold ? What about the original price - again I assume this is based on the rate at the time ?
Many thanks Nick
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hahaajp05
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expresso beans, by hahaajp05 on Mar 29, 2009 11:47:24 GMT 1, If the piece being entered is provided with an original price then it will be listed under the average going rate over the past 6 months. People usually follow the sale's history as time goes by so yes it's usually based on more recent prices. Sometimes the value increases over time and sometimes it decreases. Most of the time I think people look at other sale's histories of other artworks by the same artist to determine what price to ask for as well. The exchange rate would be determined at the time of the sale.
If the piece being entered is provided with an original price then it will be listed under the average going rate over the past 6 months. People usually follow the sale's history as time goes by so yes it's usually based on more recent prices. Sometimes the value increases over time and sometimes it decreases. Most of the time I think people look at other sale's histories of other artworks by the same artist to determine what price to ask for as well. The exchange rate would be determined at the time of the sale.
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lobster
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expresso beans, by lobster on Mar 29, 2009 11:55:08 GMT 1, Sorry I dont understand !!! Say something is sold on ebay today for ยฃ2000 - is the price listed as ยฃ2000 at TODAYS exchange rate in $ ? The original price is NOT either the price in todays rate OR the price at the rate when the piece was originally bought (?) - it is an average of the last 6 months exchange rate ?
Sorry to labor this but I use your site every day and find it extremelly useful and I just want to establish that I am getting the right info.
Sorry I dont understand !!! Say something is sold on ebay today for ยฃ2000 - is the price listed as ยฃ2000 at TODAYS exchange rate in $ ? The original price is NOT either the price in todays rate OR the price at the rate when the piece was originally bought (?) - it is an average of the last 6 months exchange rate ?
Sorry to labor this but I use your site every day and find it extremelly useful and I just want to establish that I am getting the right info.
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afroken
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expresso beans, by afroken on Mar 29, 2009 12:17:37 GMT 1, I believe exchange rates are calculated approximately at the time of the sale. This means Expressobeans figures have become very distorted in the last few months.
I believe exchange rates are calculated approximately at the time of the sale. This means Expressobeans figures have become very distorted in the last few months.
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hahaajp05
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expresso beans, by hahaajp05 on Mar 29, 2009 12:28:40 GMT 1, If the info of original price was provided then it would be listed there. By the original price, I meant the price that was paid for the artwork when it was released. Then if enough time has gone by there will be an average going rate of the piece over the past few months. I'm sorry I misunderstood your question about the exchange rate! I thought you were asking how the price is determined. Afroken is right, the exchange rate would reflect on what the currency rate is at the time it is sold. I hope this clears it up for you.
If the info of original price was provided then it would be listed there. By the original price, I meant the price that was paid for the artwork when it was released. Then if enough time has gone by there will be an average going rate of the piece over the past few months. I'm sorry I misunderstood your question about the exchange rate! I thought you were asking how the price is determined. Afroken is right, the exchange rate would reflect on what the currency rate is at the time it is sold. I hope this clears it up for you.
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Heavyconsumer
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expresso beans, by Heavyconsumer on Mar 30, 2009 2:24:05 GMT 1, EB is a great tool, but for it to live up to its' potential, users like us need to "do our bit" and enter ebay listings into the database every once in a while as well as entering art and artists who aren't yet in there. I'm pretty slack and I would guess that most other members are too. It's well worth taking into consideration the changes in exchange rates and also an artist's general appeal to American consumers. My finding is that EB was/is far more geared towards gig posters and works by popular American artists, while most active members seem to be North American, so I'd guess that most of the enthusiastic members are keane on keeping that data as complete as possible. While there is a huge overlap (ever-growing) between the content here and there, if we want the sales info' to be reliable, if we each spent a few minutes each week updating the items by our favourite artists, EB could be an even better tool than it already is.
EB is a great tool, but for it to live up to its' potential, users like us need to "do our bit" and enter ebay listings into the database every once in a while as well as entering art and artists who aren't yet in there. I'm pretty slack and I would guess that most other members are too. It's well worth taking into consideration the changes in exchange rates and also an artist's general appeal to American consumers. My finding is that EB was/is far more geared towards gig posters and works by popular American artists, while most active members seem to be North American, so I'd guess that most of the enthusiastic members are keane on keeping that data as complete as possible. While there is a huge overlap (ever-growing) between the content here and there, if we want the sales info' to be reliable, if we each spent a few minutes each week updating the items by our favourite artists, EB could be an even better tool than it already is.
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Martin DK
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expresso beans, by Martin DK on Mar 30, 2009 8:03:57 GMT 1, We just need to make an EB for europe with urban / street art
We just need to make an EB for europe with urban / street art
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