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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by rosstierney on Nov 19, 2008 19:59:27 GMT 1, Have you asked the galleries you purchased these works from if they are OK with you selling it? Say you sell it for a loss, which is probably what will happen....it would seriously damage the artist's reputation and ability to sell in future shows.
not if it's a private sale for an undisclosed fee
if you put it on ebay as a no reserve auction it would be different
as it is, origo's offering it up @ near enough cost
Have you asked the galleries you purchased these works from if they are OK with you selling it? Say you sell it for a loss, which is probably what will happen....it would seriously damage the artist's reputation and ability to sell in future shows. not if it's a private sale for an undisclosed fee if you put it on ebay as a no reserve auction it would be different as it is, origo's offering it up @ near enough cost
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by hick on Nov 19, 2008 20:02:01 GMT 1, fook can of worms ! sorry origo ! i personally think your barmy, damon ginanades is great and that piece in particular is a stunner, and if it wasn't for the fact that i am gonna hand nearly two months wages over to frankie next week at the herakut show i'd have it off you !!!!
fook can of worms ! sorry origo ! i personally think your barmy, damon ginanades is great and that piece in particular is a stunner, and if it wasn't for the fact that i am gonna hand nearly two months wages over to frankie next week at the herakut show i'd have it off you !!!!
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origo
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 20:05:27 GMT 1, fook can of worms ! sorry origo ! i personally think your barmy, damon ginanades is great and that piece in particular is a stunner, and if it wasn't for the fact that i am gonna hand nearly two months wages over to frankie next week at the herakut show i'd have it off you !!!!
Hey hick, no worries man, it is a stunner but with what I have coming in somethingยดs gotta go, and I am actually throwing in a 140 GBP frame for free.
fook can of worms ! sorry origo ! i personally think your barmy, damon ginanades is great and that piece in particular is a stunner, and if it wasn't for the fact that i am gonna hand nearly two months wages over to frankie next week at the herakut show i'd have it off you !!!! Hey hick, no worries man, it is a stunner but with what I have coming in somethingยดs gotta go, and I am actually throwing in a 140 GBP frame for free.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by Filipino Box Spring Hog on Nov 19, 2008 20:23:48 GMT 1, Just a thought here but, if so many people were not so eager to purchase art with no motivation other than to sell on quickly thereafter, a lot of galleries would not be moving very much at all. This would lead to galleries having to be very much more selective in terms of who they show, as well as force them to be more competitive in their pricing. Not as many artists would be shown - never mind selling their work.
Prices seem to jump up very, very quickly - sometimes gallery prices are more than the market is willing to bear - sure they will sell out their shows (however, it is a sell-out under false pretenses) as the work that sold is quickly resold on the secondary market and can often times be had for less than it's original price. This mark-down absolutely affects the artist's overall value -
if people were not buying to sell onward right away this wouldn't happen. The value gets skewed negatively on the secondary market which hurts the artists overall career - at least in the short term. The next time they have a gallery show the public says why bother because I can get the pieces cheaper in the aftermarket. After a couple of shows, no one is buying anything anymore and the artist is forced with some difficult decisions.
I'm not giving shit to anyone selling for any reason - just breaking this all down for my head -
If I were an artist I'd probably choose to show at some smaller, lesser known galleries....here and there and keep my prices intentionally low for as long as possible to grow my base of collectors and thwart anyone from buying to sell for a quick profit.
Josh Keyes is a good example of this...he showed for a good 7 or 8 years before anyone in the lowbrow or the street art scenes knew who he was...i.e. before he blew up in these circles. He still keeps his prices lower than he could and his collector base continually grows....
I don't know, I'm a little spacey today but, hopefully someone gets the points I'm making...
it's all been said before anyway. I don't personally care if anyone buys to resell for any reason at all - I was just trying to place myself in a gallery and artist kind of perspective.
Just a thought here but, if so many people were not so eager to purchase art with no motivation other than to sell on quickly thereafter, a lot of galleries would not be moving very much at all. This would lead to galleries having to be very much more selective in terms of who they show, as well as force them to be more competitive in their pricing. Not as many artists would be shown - never mind selling their work.
Prices seem to jump up very, very quickly - sometimes gallery prices are more than the market is willing to bear - sure they will sell out their shows (however, it is a sell-out under false pretenses) as the work that sold is quickly resold on the secondary market and can often times be had for less than it's original price. This mark-down absolutely affects the artist's overall value -
if people were not buying to sell onward right away this wouldn't happen. The value gets skewed negatively on the secondary market which hurts the artists overall career - at least in the short term. The next time they have a gallery show the public says why bother because I can get the pieces cheaper in the aftermarket. After a couple of shows, no one is buying anything anymore and the artist is forced with some difficult decisions.
I'm not giving shit to anyone selling for any reason - just breaking this all down for my head -
If I were an artist I'd probably choose to show at some smaller, lesser known galleries....here and there and keep my prices intentionally low for as long as possible to grow my base of collectors and thwart anyone from buying to sell for a quick profit.
Josh Keyes is a good example of this...he showed for a good 7 or 8 years before anyone in the lowbrow or the street art scenes knew who he was...i.e. before he blew up in these circles. He still keeps his prices lower than he could and his collector base continually grows....
I don't know, I'm a little spacey today but, hopefully someone gets the points I'm making...
it's all been said before anyway. I don't personally care if anyone buys to resell for any reason at all - I was just trying to place myself in a gallery and artist kind of perspective.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by Heavyconsumer on Nov 20, 2008 3:24:35 GMT 1, Things pop up in life, something else comes along we can't say no to, we're not as happy when we receive the art as we'd expected to be, we didn't think it over for long enough pre-purchase and the piece just doesn't quite fit with our other art or our home when we unwrap it. s**t happens! I'm sure galleries and artists realise this. If I buy something and have a change of heart, I'm going to be more worried about what's right for me than what's right for the gallery I've paid for the piece! I may ask them if they're interested in buying back or helping to sell, but beyond that, it's me out of pocket, not them.
After seeing what Origo has been offering up in the forum in recent months and the prices he's asked, as well as the range of stuff he buys and proudly shares/shows off, I would be surprised if this purchase or sale were driven by financial greed. The guy's in Denmark (I think), so getting to see art in person before buying it isn't always gonna be practical and these resales will happen from time to time, surely!
Things pop up in life, something else comes along we can't say no to, we're not as happy when we receive the art as we'd expected to be, we didn't think it over for long enough pre-purchase and the piece just doesn't quite fit with our other art or our home when we unwrap it. s**t happens! I'm sure galleries and artists realise this. If I buy something and have a change of heart, I'm going to be more worried about what's right for me than what's right for the gallery I've paid for the piece! I may ask them if they're interested in buying back or helping to sell, but beyond that, it's me out of pocket, not them.
After seeing what Origo has been offering up in the forum in recent months and the prices he's asked, as well as the range of stuff he buys and proudly shares/shows off, I would be surprised if this purchase or sale were driven by financial greed. The guy's in Denmark (I think), so getting to see art in person before buying it isn't always gonna be practical and these resales will happen from time to time, surely!
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