origo
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 1:25:27 GMT 1, I am considering parting with my Damon Ginandes piece and will sell it for cost, which was 3000 USD.
Buyer can have the frame with it for free.
Acrylic on canvas measuring 70 x 110 cm.
I also have this amazing Zeus landscape for sale, measuring 93 x 93 cm in frame - 1900 GBP
It´s an AP from the edition from the Corked show with added details, which makes it unique.
I am considering parting with my Damon Ginandes piece and will sell it for cost, which was 3000 USD. Buyer can have the frame with it for free. Acrylic on canvas measuring 70 x 110 cm. I also have this amazing Zeus landscape for sale, measuring 93 x 93 cm in frame - 1900 GBP It´s an AP from the edition from the Corked show with added details, which makes it unique.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by Deleted on Nov 19, 2008 8:41:38 GMT 1, I love that Giandes piece. fancy swaps?
I love that Giandes piece. fancy swaps?
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by hick on Nov 19, 2008 10:57:20 GMT 1, jesus do you keep anything over a month ?
jesus do you keep anything over a month ?
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origo
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 10:58:22 GMT 1, jesus do you keep anything over a month ?
Jesus, do you care?
Swaps/trades could be an option as well.
jesus do you keep anything over a month ? Jesus, do you care? Swaps/trades could be an option as well.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by nacional on Nov 19, 2008 12:10:34 GMT 1, What was the original price on the Zeus, I remember it being WAY cheaper than 1900???
What was the original price on the Zeus, I remember it being WAY cheaper than 1900???
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origo
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 12:57:55 GMT 1, Run of 5 on Urban Angel is 2500, so it´s actually quite cheap.
Run of 5 on Urban Angel is 2500, so it´s actually quite cheap.
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nacional
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by nacional on Nov 19, 2008 13:41:58 GMT 1, But what did YOU pay for it at the Corked show. What "galleries" ask is almost irrelevant: for example they seem to want 2k for a Neate street piece that doesn't even reach 800 in real life.....
But what did YOU pay for it at the Corked show. What "galleries" ask is almost irrelevant: for example they seem to want 2k for a Neate street piece that doesn't even reach 800 in real life.....
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origo
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 14:15:06 GMT 1, But what did YOU pay for it at the Corked show. What "galleries" ask is almost irrelevant: for example they seem to want 2k for a Neate street piece that doesn't even reach 800 in real life.....
I don´t know why you feel like you are entitled to know, but since we for some reason have some issues here, I can tell you that the piece costed me pretty much around what I am asking, 1850 all in all I think.
Please let me know if you have anymore concerns regarding this piece of MINE.
But what did YOU pay for it at the Corked show. What "galleries" ask is almost irrelevant: for example they seem to want 2k for a Neate street piece that doesn't even reach 800 in real life..... I don´t know why you feel like you are entitled to know, but since we for some reason have some issues here, I can tell you that the piece costed me pretty much around what I am asking, 1850 all in all I think. Please let me know if you have anymore concerns regarding this piece of MINE.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by hick on Nov 19, 2008 14:20:19 GMT 1, jesus do you keep anything over a month ? Jesus, do you care? Swaps/trades could be an option as well.
yep. it was only two months back you were showing this off on the get your art out thread saying how amazing it was ....what's changed?
jesus do you keep anything over a month ? Jesus, do you care? Swaps/trades could be an option as well. yep. it was only two months back you were showing this off on the get your art out thread saying how amazing it was ....what's changed?
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origo
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 14:29:02 GMT 1, Jesus, do you care? Swaps/trades could be an option as well. yep. it was only two months back you were showing this off on the get your art out thread saying how amazing it was ....what's changed?
New things happened, just got an opportunity to purchase something quite special, if you absolutely think you are entitled to know.
How long after you purchased your Denning was it for sale? I really don´t care, but where is the limit for when it´s okay and not? I am not charging flipper prices here, just asking what I paid.
Now move on.
Jesus, do you care? Swaps/trades could be an option as well. yep. it was only two months back you were showing this off on the get your art out thread saying how amazing it was ....what's changed? New things happened, just got an opportunity to purchase something quite special, if you absolutely think you are entitled to know. How long after you purchased your Denning was it for sale? I really don´t care, but where is the limit for when it´s okay and not? I am not charging flipper prices here, just asking what I paid. Now move on.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by hick on Nov 19, 2008 14:32:55 GMT 1, yep. it was only two months back you were showing this off on the get your art out thread saying how amazing it was ....what's changed? New things happened, just got an opportunity to purchase something quite special, if you absolutely think you are entitled to know. How long after you purchased your Denning was it for sale? I really don´t care, but where is the limit for when it´s okay and not? I am not charging flipper prices here, just asking what I paid. Now move on.
I am just asking !!
yep. it was only two months back you were showing this off on the get your art out thread saying how amazing it was ....what's changed? New things happened, just got an opportunity to purchase something quite special, if you absolutely think you are entitled to know. How long after you purchased your Denning was it for sale? I really don´t care, but where is the limit for when it´s okay and not? I am not charging flipper prices here, just asking what I paid. Now move on. I am just asking !!
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origo
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 14:43:21 GMT 1, Fair enough...
Fair enough...
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by rosstierney on Nov 19, 2008 14:44:44 GMT 1, there are unlimited reasons why people sell art pieces, whether it's days/weeks/months/years after they originally bought them
financial gain that will be moved out of the 'scene'
financial gain that will stay in the 'scene' to further 'x' collection that wouldn't otherwise be financially able
opportunities to buy a 'better' piece whatever your definition of 'better' is
financial difficulties
successful rehabilitation for this addiction
why anyone feels they require an explanation from a seller is beyond me
there are unlimited reasons why people sell art pieces, whether it's days/weeks/months/years after they originally bought them financial gain that will be moved out of the 'scene' financial gain that will stay in the 'scene' to further 'x' collection that wouldn't otherwise be financially able opportunities to buy a 'better' piece whatever your definition of 'better' is financial difficulties successful rehabilitation for this addiction why anyone feels they require an explanation from a seller is beyond me
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by hick on Nov 19, 2008 15:02:14 GMT 1, I was asking because me and origi have very simalr tastes . I purchased a DG from that show and it is stunning, and wondered why he would want to sell it.
I was asking because me and origi have very simalr tastes . I purchased a DG from that show and it is stunning, and wondered why he would want to sell it.
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nacional
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by nacional on Nov 19, 2008 15:06:27 GMT 1, Origo
If you are offering something for sale it is absurd to get all sensitive when people ask questions. That's like putting your apartment on the market then not wanting anyone to look at the place.
Grow up: you want to sell, there will be questions, especially regarding the price at this moment in time.
Origo
If you are offering something for sale it is absurd to get all sensitive when people ask questions. That's like putting your apartment on the market then not wanting anyone to look at the place.
Grow up: you want to sell, there will be questions, especially regarding the price at this moment in time.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by rosstierney on Nov 19, 2008 15:12:04 GMT 1, i'm not singling you out hick, although i suppose your misunderstood comments bled the rant out of me, but i've read one too many requests for explanations as of late, neil's choe og for example, and i just think people should mind their own business & ignore the advert if they're not interested in buying the piece
i'm not singling you out hick, although i suppose your misunderstood comments bled the rant out of me, but i've read one too many requests for explanations as of late, neil's choe og for example, and i just think people should mind their own business & ignore the advert if they're not interested in buying the piece
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by Heavyconsumer on Nov 19, 2008 15:54:29 GMT 1, i'm not singling you out hick, although i suppose your misunderstood comments bled the rant out of me, but i've read one too many requests for explanations as of late, neil's choe og for example, and i just think people should mind their own business & ignore the advert if they're not interested in buying the piece
I totally agree that sellers never need to explain themselves as such, but sometimes, people in here are on friendly enough terms to feel (perhaps in error) that they can ask a question based on genuine curiosity. I made this mistake on Neil's thread with the Choe and perhaps I should have PM'd it and made sure it seemed a genuine and friendly enquiry. It happens, we're all open to misenterpretation at times. Making narky comments on the other hand, such as "jesus, do you ever keep anything for over a month" may of course cause offense! But to suggest that people in an open forum shouldn't be free to speak their minds is wrong. If someone wants to ask why Origo rotates his collection so frequently, let them ask away! If he wants to answer, he will, if not, he won't!
FWIW, I believe Origo is a totally genuine collector who loves a lot of art and has a serious problem not looking for that next special piece. Like anyone else, he only has so many walls! Same goes for Harveyn. Imo, these guys are fantastic for this forum and give us all a chance to enjoy LOTS of excellent art in the "get your art out" thread.
Personally I hope (for my benefit and this forum's) that Origo and Harveyn never stop buying!!! ;D Then again, maybe they feel differently! ;D
i'm not singling you out hick, although i suppose your misunderstood comments bled the rant out of me, but i've read one too many requests for explanations as of late, neil's choe og for example, and i just think people should mind their own business & ignore the advert if they're not interested in buying the piece I totally agree that sellers never need to explain themselves as such, but sometimes, people in here are on friendly enough terms to feel (perhaps in error) that they can ask a question based on genuine curiosity. I made this mistake on Neil's thread with the Choe and perhaps I should have PM'd it and made sure it seemed a genuine and friendly enquiry. It happens, we're all open to misenterpretation at times. Making narky comments on the other hand, such as "jesus, do you ever keep anything for over a month" may of course cause offense! But to suggest that people in an open forum shouldn't be free to speak their minds is wrong. If someone wants to ask why Origo rotates his collection so frequently, let them ask away! If he wants to answer, he will, if not, he won't! FWIW, I believe Origo is a totally genuine collector who loves a lot of art and has a serious problem not looking for that next special piece. Like anyone else, he only has so many walls! Same goes for Harveyn. Imo, these guys are fantastic for this forum and give us all a chance to enjoy LOTS of excellent art in the "get your art out" thread. Personally I hope (for my benefit and this forum's) that Origo and Harveyn never stop buying!!! ;D Then again, maybe they feel differently! ;D
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origo
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 17:23:15 GMT 1, Origo If you are offering something for sale it is absurd to get all sensitive when people ask questions. That's like putting your apartment on the market then not wanting anyone to look at the place. Grow up: you want to sell, there will be questions, especially regarding the price at this moment in time.
I don´t mind people asking questions and I won´t mind answering at all, but both you and I know that there are often hidden questions between the lines, at least that is the impression I get from a lot of sales threads and the same goes for this one.
I think Ross and Heavyconsumer said it all, people have different motives for putting pieces up for sale, I can be rather impulsive at times and that is why I sometimes sell a piece pretty quick, but my motive is pretty much always the same: A new piece coming in.
Origo If you are offering something for sale it is absurd to get all sensitive when people ask questions. That's like putting your apartment on the market then not wanting anyone to look at the place. Grow up: you want to sell, there will be questions, especially regarding the price at this moment in time. I don´t mind people asking questions and I won´t mind answering at all, but both you and I know that there are often hidden questions between the lines, at least that is the impression I get from a lot of sales threads and the same goes for this one. I think Ross and Heavyconsumer said it all, people have different motives for putting pieces up for sale, I can be rather impulsive at times and that is why I sometimes sell a piece pretty quick, but my motive is pretty much always the same: A new piece coming in.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by nacional on Nov 19, 2008 18:03:02 GMT 1, Now I read the thread again I can see where you were coming from...apologies....
Now I read the thread again I can see where you were coming from...apologies....
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by Art-el on Nov 19, 2008 18:07:13 GMT 1, amen
amen
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 18:13:07 GMT 1, Now I read the thread again I can see where you were coming from...apologies....
No worries man, I like a little edge to the debate.
Now I read the thread again I can see where you were coming from...apologies.... No worries man, I like a little edge to the debate.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by edcase on Nov 19, 2008 19:05:06 GMT 1, Reading this thread made me angry, and it's not even my art!!
Some people need to wind their neck in, I don't understand what motivates people to comment on threads like this other than to stir up bad feeling and conflict. What a waste of time!!
If you have genuine beef with something, send someone a PM! Of course people have a genuine right to ask questions about a sale, but this is supposed to be a community, why the need to position thing so aggressively?? You would never approach conversation like that in person so why behind the keyboard?
It's hardly like Origo is buying prints from shows and trying to flip them the next day on ebay! These are fantastic original pieces, bought by an obviously passionate and knowledgeable collector, and you are very lucky they are even being offered to you let alone at cost!!!
Just to add, I have never even spoken to Origo let alone met him, I'm just slightly fed up with some of the attitudes on this forum of late. Everyone likes to have a good debate, me as much as the next man, but this kind of posting is good for nobody.
Rant over.
Reading this thread made me angry, and it's not even my art!!
Some people need to wind their neck in, I don't understand what motivates people to comment on threads like this other than to stir up bad feeling and conflict. What a waste of time!!
If you have genuine beef with something, send someone a PM! Of course people have a genuine right to ask questions about a sale, but this is supposed to be a community, why the need to position thing so aggressively?? You would never approach conversation like that in person so why behind the keyboard?
It's hardly like Origo is buying prints from shows and trying to flip them the next day on ebay! These are fantastic original pieces, bought by an obviously passionate and knowledgeable collector, and you are very lucky they are even being offered to you let alone at cost!!!
Just to add, I have never even spoken to Origo let alone met him, I'm just slightly fed up with some of the attitudes on this forum of late. Everyone likes to have a good debate, me as much as the next man, but this kind of posting is good for nobody.
Rant over.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by dotdot on Nov 19, 2008 19:25:22 GMT 1, interesting thread.
I wouldn‘t need to think much when i‘d sell anything - alas i wouldn‘t put up here. i‘d buy / swap yeah - cool - but sell nah - not here - it‘s just not a place where i‘d trade - much as i trust a few folks here - and yeah i know a few of you - but this place has changed of late.
just not worth the ag.
interesting thread.
I wouldn‘t need to think much when i‘d sell anything - alas i wouldn‘t put up here. i‘d buy / swap yeah - cool - but sell nah - not here - it‘s just not a place where i‘d trade - much as i trust a few folks here - and yeah i know a few of you - but this place has changed of late.
just not worth the ag.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by edcase on Nov 19, 2008 19:28:44 GMT 1, A sad indictment.
A sad indictment.
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origo
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 19:35:15 GMT 1, I have never had a bad experience in here, I actually think this is the best forum I am on, cool people and so much good art being shown.
Surely there will always be some bad apples in between, but I have chatted with some serious good people and always know who to turn to, if I need a word of advise.
I have never had a bad experience in here, I actually think this is the best forum I am on, cool people and so much good art being shown.
Surely there will always be some bad apples in between, but I have chatted with some serious good people and always know who to turn to, if I need a word of advise.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by Heavyconsumer on Nov 19, 2008 19:43:23 GMT 1, interesting thread. I wouldn‘t need to think much when i‘d sell anything - alas i wouldn‘t put up here. i‘d buy / swap yeah - cool - but sell nah - not here - it‘s just not a place where i‘d trade - much as i trust a few folks here - and yeah i know a few of you - but this place has changed of late. just not worth the ag.
Have to disagree, maybe I'm the exception, but I've bought, sold and swapped in the past 6 months and each time, both parties have come away happy with receiving exactly what they were promised. I'd sooner deal here, with people, than with bidders and potential scammers who'll later charge back or something on ebay and feed the fees to the paypal/ebay beast in the process. Imo ebay's a last resort and this is my first port of call. Sure it may take a while, but I'd sooner art's enjoyed by someone else in this community and I'd also rather give my money to someone in this community.
interesting thread. I wouldn‘t need to think much when i‘d sell anything - alas i wouldn‘t put up here. i‘d buy / swap yeah - cool - but sell nah - not here - it‘s just not a place where i‘d trade - much as i trust a few folks here - and yeah i know a few of you - but this place has changed of late. just not worth the ag. Have to disagree, maybe I'm the exception, but I've bought, sold and swapped in the past 6 months and each time, both parties have come away happy with receiving exactly what they were promised. I'd sooner deal here, with people, than with bidders and potential scammers who'll later charge back or something on ebay and feed the fees to the paypal/ebay beast in the process. Imo ebay's a last resort and this is my first port of call. Sure it may take a while, but I'd sooner art's enjoyed by someone else in this community and I'd also rather give my money to someone in this community.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by bradpitt on Nov 19, 2008 19:51:21 GMT 1, A lot of people will have different views on this, but I for one think that buying an original from an artist and then immediately selling it is sometimes damaging for the artist (as it starts messing with there primary market). Also I can never understand why someone would spend that much on a piece of art without the intention of keeping it for a long time, I understand new pieces come along, but sometimes it just feels like people buy everything hoping the price will go up and then cut their losses if it hasn't.
Not having a dig at all, but just trying to explain why some people may be annoyed with people re-selling stuff so quickly, as many wouldn't dream of doing it themselves.
A lot of people will have different views on this, but I for one think that buying an original from an artist and then immediately selling it is sometimes damaging for the artist (as it starts messing with there primary market). Also I can never understand why someone would spend that much on a piece of art without the intention of keeping it for a long time, I understand new pieces come along, but sometimes it just feels like people buy everything hoping the price will go up and then cut their losses if it hasn't.
Not having a dig at all, but just trying to explain why some people may be annoyed with people re-selling stuff so quickly, as many wouldn't dream of doing it themselves.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by rosstierney on Nov 19, 2008 19:56:16 GMT 1, you only have to look at my signature ;D
all purchases by the way!
micko's to be added next
you only have to look at my signature ;D all purchases by the way! micko's to be added next
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by Francis on Nov 19, 2008 19:56:55 GMT 1, Have you asked the galleries you purchased these works from if they are OK with you selling it? Say you sell it for a loss, which is probably what will happen....it would seriously damage the artist's reputation and ability to sell in future shows.
Have you asked the galleries you purchased these works from if they are OK with you selling it? Say you sell it for a loss, which is probably what will happen....it would seriously damage the artist's reputation and ability to sell in future shows.
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FS: Damon Ginandes OG/Zeus 3D landscape, by origo on Nov 19, 2008 19:58:02 GMT 1, No I haven´t, and none of them were purchased from galleries.
Thanks for your concern though.
No I haven´t, and none of them were purchased from galleries.
Thanks for your concern though.
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