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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Daniel Silk on Sept 11, 2008 0:02:27 GMT 1, HAS NOT BEEN ONLINE EITHER SINE THE 31ST AUG. SILKY CAN YOU TELL IF HE HAS AN ALTERNATIVE USER NAME OR HAS BEEN BROWSING AS A GUEST?
I have only just been catching up on this thread
Had PM from Havana07, and have ran some searches on the member in questions IP address and Email address and have found no other accounts on this forum that match up
HAS NOT BEEN ONLINE EITHER SINE THE 31ST AUG. SILKY CAN YOU TELL IF HE HAS AN ALTERNATIVE USER NAME OR HAS BEEN BROWSING AS A GUEST? I have only just been catching up on this thread Had PM from Havana07, and have ran some searches on the member in questions IP address and Email address and have found no other accounts on this forum that match up
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Daniel Silk on Sept 11, 2008 0:08:30 GMT 1, You have his address, silky can get you his ISP no. (or if data protection prohibits that he can give it to the proper authorities) and I am sure others may have other personal details for him. I suggest you go the the Police station and report his crime.
Have been in contact via PM'ds with Havana07 and I can release some info to her if I feel its correct to do so under the following rule that every member agrees to when joining a Proboards forum - "We at this forum also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any information we have about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any information posted by you."
You have his address, silky can get you his ISP no. (or if data protection prohibits that he can give it to the proper authorities) and I am sure others may have other personal details for him. I suggest you go the the Police station and report his crime. Have been in contact via PM'ds with Havana07 and I can release some info to her if I feel its correct to do so under the following rule that every member agrees to when joining a Proboards forum - "We at this forum also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any information we have about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any information posted by you."
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Daniel Silk on Sept 11, 2008 0:15:47 GMT 1, i got 1 better gcraigjames@gmail.com greg craig james
Just ran a search on that email address and we have no member registered with it
i got 1 better gcraigjames@gmail.com greg craig james Just ran a search on that email address and we have no member registered with it
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Photoxtc
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Photoxtc on Sept 11, 2008 2:12:19 GMT 1, I think I remember him saying in a past post he was a surfboard shaper in California.. PM me with his name and I can do a little search, I know a lot of shapers here in California and they all seem to know one another...
We have a few members here in CA that would pop by for a little peek in his windows...
I think I remember him saying in a past post he was a surfboard shaper in California.. PM me with his name and I can do a little search, I know a lot of shapers here in California and they all seem to know one another... We have a few members here in CA that would pop by for a little peek in his windows...
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wave
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by wave on Sept 11, 2008 9:40:44 GMT 1, Yep. This is the guy that tried to rip me off too. 100% scammer imo. He was looking to offload all his Banksys, Neates and Nick Walkers. He responded to my post for a sepia morons then said he's be happy to swap for an unsigned Morons and a Nick Walker piece. Hmmmm....... He couldn't get any forum members to vouch for him so i asked him to post first. This was his response.
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Great, the deal is done (terms-wise). I have to say, I am a little nervous about the idea of sending first, and then my side of the deal will be sent after the other person gets my piece. Alarms always ring in my head when that idea is given. I've done so many of these trades--from the UK to Singapore, and most points between (either a straight trade, a buy, or a sale) and have never had a problem--the only problem was the one time I did agree to send first (with the promise mine would be sent upon receipt).
He said it was "seriously damaged" and that it looked like it was there previously, and not in transit....two days later after constant emails the song changed and it was "because of the damn post, they must have screwed it up." The whole time I am questionioning this, and without his end of the deal. He wouldn't send because of the supposed "damage", but he would always ignore and change the subject on my emails about sending my piece back. This went on for a month (him talking to me and responding), and he never sent my piece back or sent what he traded me. Then he dissapeared, email didn't work, no contact, nothing...so it was just a scam. I just don't like that idea, because it opens up too many chances to take advantage. I mean, you're inspecting my stuff, framing it, putting it on the walls before you've even shipped my end of the deal...lol....Plus, in this case, I do realize my piece does have a little higher resale value, and is pretty easy to sell on the secondary and/or black market, so it could dissapear pretty easily.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I just can't risk that. I just don't think its fair either--I wouldn't ask someone to do that on my end, so I am not a hypocrite about it...I just sent out a Banksy Soup Can (single can, edition of 10), HUGE money piece, and that was the only one I modified--because he is well known to collectors. I only made him pay half of the money, then he is to send the other half after receiving. I just trust people, all these times and I was only ripped off the one time...and oddly, it was the time the person made the biggest deal about getting ripped off himself, getting scammed, i have to send first to build trust, etc, etc....tosser! haha
We don't have to rush...we can take our time, think about this, email, etc, etc....I am kind of impulsive, and I realize that...I should work on it! lol...I just see something i want, and that's it...I saw you had some piece I wanted, had somethign that would make a trade, and voila..here is the deal "is this okay with you" and it's done! ha., if you would have just said "yes, lets, here is my addresss..and what is yours so i can mail yours monday morning"...i'd have rushed right up to the UPS Store and put those boys to work right now. I'm just odd that way.
Well, sorry for the ramble. Just let me know what the story is, where you stand, have any ideas, if I set you at ease at all, etc...
The only problem right now is, volume. I am trading (and buying) A TON of stuff right now. It's just the market, I can't help myself. I am just seeing price on original and canvas work that is unavoidable! That, and I am trying to move out about 80 percent of my Banksy pieces for other work...I've just grown tired (to be perfectly honest) with his stuff.
Oh, the reason this is a problem, is because of the trades. I am doing about 10 right now, and working on just under 10 others. This piece could come up as a deal breaker--someone wanting it, and not having it would break the deal...ya know? That's my only worry...if not, I have all the time in the world. They will both spend a long part of my life on walls of homes I live in, so what's the rush--they will be like wives. Really hot wives that don't talk, bother you, ask you to change, etc, etc...
Cool man, glad you emailed back and liked the terms of the trade--that's a great start. I'm definitely into it and would be glad to get it done!
If you want, email me whenever you want
gcraigjames@gmail.com
haisurf
Yep. This is the guy that tried to rip me off too. 100% scammer imo. He was looking to offload all his Banksys, Neates and Nick Walkers. He responded to my post for a sepia morons then said he's be happy to swap for an unsigned Morons and a Nick Walker piece. Hmmmm....... He couldn't get any forum members to vouch for him so i asked him to post first. This was his response.
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Great, the deal is done (terms-wise). I have to say, I am a little nervous about the idea of sending first, and then my side of the deal will be sent after the other person gets my piece. Alarms always ring in my head when that idea is given. I've done so many of these trades--from the UK to Singapore, and most points between (either a straight trade, a buy, or a sale) and have never had a problem--the only problem was the one time I did agree to send first (with the promise mine would be sent upon receipt).
He said it was "seriously damaged" and that it looked like it was there previously, and not in transit....two days later after constant emails the song changed and it was "because of the damn post, they must have screwed it up." The whole time I am questionioning this, and without his end of the deal. He wouldn't send because of the supposed "damage", but he would always ignore and change the subject on my emails about sending my piece back. This went on for a month (him talking to me and responding), and he never sent my piece back or sent what he traded me. Then he dissapeared, email didn't work, no contact, nothing...so it was just a scam. I just don't like that idea, because it opens up too many chances to take advantage. I mean, you're inspecting my stuff, framing it, putting it on the walls before you've even shipped my end of the deal...lol....Plus, in this case, I do realize my piece does have a little higher resale value, and is pretty easy to sell on the secondary and/or black market, so it could dissapear pretty easily.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I just can't risk that. I just don't think its fair either--I wouldn't ask someone to do that on my end, so I am not a hypocrite about it...I just sent out a Banksy Soup Can (single can, edition of 10), HUGE money piece, and that was the only one I modified--because he is well known to collectors. I only made him pay half of the money, then he is to send the other half after receiving. I just trust people, all these times and I was only ripped off the one time...and oddly, it was the time the person made the biggest deal about getting ripped off himself, getting scammed, i have to send first to build trust, etc, etc....tosser! haha
We don't have to rush...we can take our time, think about this, email, etc, etc....I am kind of impulsive, and I realize that...I should work on it! lol...I just see something i want, and that's it...I saw you had some piece I wanted, had somethign that would make a trade, and voila..here is the deal "is this okay with you" and it's done! ha., if you would have just said "yes, lets, here is my addresss..and what is yours so i can mail yours monday morning"...i'd have rushed right up to the UPS Store and put those boys to work right now. I'm just odd that way.
Well, sorry for the ramble. Just let me know what the story is, where you stand, have any ideas, if I set you at ease at all, etc...
The only problem right now is, volume. I am trading (and buying) A TON of stuff right now. It's just the market, I can't help myself. I am just seeing price on original and canvas work that is unavoidable! That, and I am trying to move out about 80 percent of my Banksy pieces for other work...I've just grown tired (to be perfectly honest) with his stuff.
Oh, the reason this is a problem, is because of the trades. I am doing about 10 right now, and working on just under 10 others. This piece could come up as a deal breaker--someone wanting it, and not having it would break the deal...ya know? That's my only worry...if not, I have all the time in the world. They will both spend a long part of my life on walls of homes I live in, so what's the rush--they will be like wives. Really hot wives that don't talk, bother you, ask you to change, etc, etc...
Cool man, glad you emailed back and liked the terms of the trade--that's a great start. I'm definitely into it and would be glad to get it done!
If you want, email me whenever you want
gcraigjames@gmail.com
haisurf
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by bobbyt23 on Sept 11, 2008 9:50:14 GMT 1, Bloody hell there are so many contradictions in that email and what an effort to read!!!!
Bloody hell there are so many contradictions in that email and what an effort to read!!!!
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by rosstierney on Sept 11, 2008 10:47:32 GMT 1, what makes me laugh is the amount of people who've decided now is the time to expose him
maybe if you'd done this sooner you would have saved a few people
what makes me laugh is the amount of people who've decided now is the time to expose him
maybe if you'd done this sooner you would have saved a few people
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Richard
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Richard on Sept 11, 2008 11:06:18 GMT 1, what makes me laugh is the amount of people who've decided now is the time to expose him maybe if you'd done this sooner you would have saved a few people
It doesn't seem that dodgy until you get everyones experiences together.
He tried to do a swap with me...then went awol. Has happened to me with plenty of other members in the past and no real reason to think he was a scammer or set off alarm bells.
It's when everyone else has had exactly the same experience with him that it does make it appear suspicious.
I think the lesson for all who are considering trading or selling on here is to ask for references. I always do and I havn't had a bad experience yet.
;D
what makes me laugh is the amount of people who've decided now is the time to expose him maybe if you'd done this sooner you would have saved a few people It doesn't seem that dodgy until you get everyones experiences together. He tried to do a swap with me...then went awol. Has happened to me with plenty of other members in the past and no real reason to think he was a scammer or set off alarm bells. It's when everyone else has had exactly the same experience with him that it does make it appear suspicious. I think the lesson for all who are considering trading or selling on here is to ask for references. I always do and I havn't had a bad experience yet. ;D
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by ninja on Sept 11, 2008 11:08:55 GMT 1, I contacted him to see whether they were signed or unsigned because I was looking for an unsigned piece. As soon as he came back saying that they were all signed then alarm bells started ringing.
I didn't really take it any further after that and it looks like I deleted the pm. It just screamed SCAM to me and I didn't think anybody would fall for it without some really watertight reassurances.
I contacted him to see whether they were signed or unsigned because I was looking for an unsigned piece. As soon as he came back saying that they were all signed then alarm bells started ringing.
I didn't really take it any further after that and it looks like I deleted the pm. It just screamed SCAM to me and I didn't think anybody would fall for it without some really watertight reassurances.
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wave
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by wave on Sept 11, 2008 11:20:52 GMT 1, Havana. What print did you send this guy, number etc?
Havana. What print did you send this guy, number etc?
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by onemandown72 on Sept 11, 2008 11:53:11 GMT 1, Rather unusual for an American to use the word 'mobile' rather than 'cell', no? Same again with his use of the word 'tosser'.
Bizarre, as just what I thought.
Rather unusual for an American to use the word 'mobile' rather than 'cell', no? Same again with his use of the word 'tosser'. Bizarre, as just what I thought.
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by alsbabar on Sept 11, 2008 11:55:33 GMT 1, he's probably the Robert McGarry character who has faked a few others via ebay
he's probably the Robert McGarry character who has faked a few others via ebay
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Guest on Sept 11, 2008 12:27:21 GMT 1, pm
I'm in Los Angeles. So, we're not neighbors..I did just ship off a soup can to london yesterday on a trade...that's about as close as i've gotten.
pm
I'm in Los Angeles. So, we're not neighbors..I did just ship off a soup can to london yesterday on a trade...that's about as close as i've gotten.
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Guest on Sept 11, 2008 12:28:52 GMT 1, pm
I'm not in a buying mood, but trade, I would. I love that piece, always have and want it BADLY. Micallef Peacekeeper? Banksy Grannies? Hell, probably stupid, because I could sell either and make more than your sale price....hum, we could make something work though if you'd entertain a trade.
pm
I'm not in a buying mood, but trade, I would. I love that piece, always have and want it BADLY. Micallef Peacekeeper? Banksy Grannies? Hell, probably stupid, because I could sell either and make more than your sale price....hum, we could make something work though if you'd entertain a trade.
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Guest on Sept 11, 2008 12:29:25 GMT 1, tosser
tosser
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stylus
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by stylus on Sept 11, 2008 12:31:34 GMT 1, Just to add myself to the list, I had arranged a trade with him. The day before we were due to post out, he said that the three pieces he was going to send me were accidentally destroyed by fire. It's very interesting reading all of the above posts - my experience in terms of email comms was just the same. For me, I guess what it should have come down to was "If it looks too good to be true, it probably is".
I got the same email address as above, but couldn't manage to get a mobile number from him.
I feel for anyone who posted anything off to him. I was 1 day away from being another person on the list.
Just to add myself to the list, I had arranged a trade with him. The day before we were due to post out, he said that the three pieces he was going to send me were accidentally destroyed by fire. It's very interesting reading all of the above posts - my experience in terms of email comms was just the same. For me, I guess what it should have come down to was "If it looks too good to be true, it probably is".
I got the same email address as above, but couldn't manage to get a mobile number from him.
I feel for anyone who posted anything off to him. I was 1 day away from being another person on the list.
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by seidbereit on Sept 11, 2008 12:46:47 GMT 1, Rather unusual for an American to use the word 'mobile' rather than 'cell', no? Same again with his use of the word 'tosser'.
Just read through the various snippets of correspondence in the posts above and I have the distinct impression he's not English or American. His English and vocabulary are pretty good (and probably picked up in England or from English friends) but - and without wanting to bore anyone - every now and again he uses German-style syntax and loads of passive tenses (also a German trait) in his sentences. I translate German to English for a living and it was the first thing I noticed. I'm guessing therefore that he's not called Craig or James or any other name suggested by his emal address.
Incidentally, while I'm on the subject, the Hai part of Haisurf is also the German word for Shark.
Hope this helps, although I admit it doesn't really get to the core of the matter. I hope those who've been scammed by him get some satisfaction or other sooner rather than later.
Rather unusual for an American to use the word 'mobile' rather than 'cell', no? Same again with his use of the word 'tosser'. Just read through the various snippets of correspondence in the posts above and I have the distinct impression he's not English or American. His English and vocabulary are pretty good (and probably picked up in England or from English friends) but - and without wanting to bore anyone - every now and again he uses German-style syntax and loads of passive tenses (also a German trait) in his sentences. I translate German to English for a living and it was the first thing I noticed. I'm guessing therefore that he's not called Craig or James or any other name suggested by his emal address. Incidentally, while I'm on the subject, the Hai part of Haisurf is also the German word for Shark. Hope this helps, although I admit it doesn't really get to the core of the matter. I hope those who've been scammed by him get some satisfaction or other sooner rather than later.
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by holden on Sept 11, 2008 13:46:22 GMT 1, 2 things amaze me with this thread the first, the cunningness of the scam this character performed. He clearly did his/some research. the second is the amount of trading that appears to go on behind the scenes. No judgement, just blissfully unaware peoples art was so fluid Clearly care is required without the protection of a credit card, paypal or ebay
2 things amaze me with this thread the first, the cunningness of the scam this character performed. He clearly did his/some research. the second is the amount of trading that appears to go on behind the scenes. No judgement, just blissfully unaware peoples art was so fluid Clearly care is required without the protection of a credit card, paypal or ebay
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wave
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by wave on Sept 11, 2008 13:59:37 GMT 1, I think it's pretty safe to do trades as long as you can get people to vouch for you. This guy said he had done 100's of trades but yet he couldn't get anyone to 'recommend' him. Recommendation has to be the golden rule and if you cannot get this, you have to go out of your way to re-assure the other party.
I think it's pretty safe to do trades as long as you can get people to vouch for you. This guy said he had done 100's of trades but yet he couldn't get anyone to 'recommend' him. Recommendation has to be the golden rule and if you cannot get this, you have to go out of your way to re-assure the other party.
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by manty on Sept 11, 2008 14:18:54 GMT 1, Good luck with it havana
Good luck with it havana
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by pfffffffffft on Sept 11, 2008 14:26:01 GMT 1, Havana, can you give us detail on what was sent so we can keep an eye out?
Havana, can you give us detail on what was sent so we can keep an eye out?
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stylus
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by stylus on Sept 11, 2008 14:36:23 GMT 1, Havana, I have a postal address that he gave me. Happy to share via PM if it helps you. Good luck!
Havana, I have a postal address that he gave me. Happy to share via PM if it helps you. Good luck!
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by graeme501 on Sept 11, 2008 14:43:34 GMT 1, as far as people saying a lot of people must have contacted him, in every instance when he tried to swap with me, it was him latching onto swap threads and contacting me
i pulled out when he wanted me to send stuff 1st on the back of him telling me he had done alot of trades but had 0 references
as far as people saying a lot of people must have contacted him, in every instance when he tried to swap with me, it was him latching onto swap threads and contacting me
i pulled out when he wanted me to send stuff 1st on the back of him telling me he had done alot of trades but had 0 references
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by nacional on Sept 11, 2008 16:04:58 GMT 1, thats great
thats great
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Guest on Sept 11, 2008 16:10:43 GMT 1, only do trades, if you can meet up in person
only do trades, if you can meet up in person
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by manchestermike on Sept 11, 2008 16:15:46 GMT 1, only do trades, if you can meet up in person
I don't agree with that
I've done many trades through here and WK without meeting up in person
only do trades, if you can meet up in person I don't agree with that I've done many trades through here and WK without meeting up in person
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by guest2 on Sept 11, 2008 16:24:49 GMT 1, Just caught up with this thread. He offered me a deal that was good for me and of I agreed. Deal was weighted in my favour by about 20% A good ratio to take up the deal but not to think too suspect I guess. But then he kept asking me if I've posted the 2 items and i basically told him to post 1st and gave him some Californian references. Then it all went quiet but I didn't think too much about it.
I have an address for him at "living canvas". Seems dodgy to me now looking back at it. Thing is he wanted to swap something for a couple of original pieces so god knows what he was thinking of doing them. He'd def done some research though if he is a con man. I have the same email address too.
While I'm at it, I got an email from a guy with the email address beginning with "volcom" at a yahoo address (i always suspect yahoo email addresses, african scammers favorite) asking to do a quick deal on a fairly expensive piece yet he didn't want to pay by creditcard and insisted on me giving over bank details etc. He said he was trying to save me the CC charge.
He was overseas and i told him just to pay cc and after several emails he went quite also. So maybe he's another one. Was also actually asking for similar things that our friend gregory james craig was attempting to swap with me. Possible coincidence but beware.
Just caught up with this thread. He offered me a deal that was good for me and of I agreed. Deal was weighted in my favour by about 20% A good ratio to take up the deal but not to think too suspect I guess. But then he kept asking me if I've posted the 2 items and i basically told him to post 1st and gave him some Californian references. Then it all went quiet but I didn't think too much about it.
I have an address for him at "living canvas". Seems dodgy to me now looking back at it. Thing is he wanted to swap something for a couple of original pieces so god knows what he was thinking of doing them. He'd def done some research though if he is a con man. I have the same email address too.
While I'm at it, I got an email from a guy with the email address beginning with "volcom" at a yahoo address (i always suspect yahoo email addresses, african scammers favorite) asking to do a quick deal on a fairly expensive piece yet he didn't want to pay by creditcard and insisted on me giving over bank details etc. He said he was trying to save me the CC charge.
He was overseas and i told him just to pay cc and after several emails he went quite also. So maybe he's another one. Was also actually asking for similar things that our friend gregory james craig was attempting to swap with me. Possible coincidence but beware.
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by stylus on Sept 11, 2008 16:30:54 GMT 1, Yeah, I got the same 'living canvas' address as you Frankie. I think it's a tattoo studio.
Yeah, I got the same 'living canvas' address as you Frankie. I think it's a tattoo studio.
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ANYBODY TRADE WITH HAISURF?, by Alan Craig on Sept 11, 2008 16:45:38 GMT 1, Yeah, I got the same 'living canvas' address as you Frankie. I think it's a tattoo studio.
Same here
Yeah, I got the same 'living canvas' address as you Frankie. I think it's a tattoo studio. Same here
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