Inknart
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Inknart on Mar 11, 2020 21:56:21 GMT 1, ah ok well either way still smart strategy. As some said above, even has us thinking about possibly bidding. I wouldnโt waste your time unless your prepared to pay well over guide. Christieโs is the last place Iโd buy Banksy from, youre up against international collectors and galleries with very deep pockets. Would people still buy from auction houses after BBay is up? And if so, would they still sell for more than BBay? I feel like Buying direct from an auction run by Banksy would push premiums up, as you get more validation and don't have to wait in line for a COA.
ah ok well either way still smart strategy. As some said above, even has us thinking about possibly bidding. I wouldnโt waste your time unless your prepared to pay well over guide. Christieโs is the last place Iโd buy Banksy from, youre up against international collectors and galleries with very deep pockets. Would people still buy from auction houses after BBay is up? And if so, would they still sell for more than BBay? I feel like Buying direct from an auction run by Banksy would push premiums up, as you get more validation and don't have to wait in line for a COA.
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Inknart
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Inknart on Mar 11, 2020 22:04:33 GMT 1, Would people still buy from auction houses after BBay is up? And if so, would they still sell for more than BBay? I feel like Buying direct from an auction run by Banksy would push premiums up, as you get more validation and don't have to wait in line for a COA. What โauction run by Banksyโ? Isn't BBAY just essentially an Auction House for Banksy Items, run by Banksy?
Would people still buy from auction houses after BBay is up? And if so, would they still sell for more than BBay? I feel like Buying direct from an auction run by Banksy would push premiums up, as you get more validation and don't have to wait in line for a COA. What โauction run by Banksyโ? Isn't BBAY just essentially an Auction House for Banksy Items, run by Banksy?
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LJCal
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 11, 2020 22:38:48 GMT 1, I wouldnโt waste your time unless your prepared to pay well over guide. Christieโs is the last place Iโd buy Banksy from, youre up against international collectors and galleries with very deep pockets. You wouldnโt be saying that if you bought the HW for ยฃ100k last year..
Sure people have done well on the high value bits mainly because his market has shot up but for prints you can shop around and get much better deals privately or through regional auction houses.
I wouldnโt waste your time unless your prepared to pay well over guide. Christieโs is the last place Iโd buy Banksy from, youre up against international collectors and galleries with very deep pockets. You wouldnโt be saying that if you bought the HW for ยฃ100k last year.. Sure people have done well on the high value bits mainly because his market has shot up but for prints you can shop around and get much better deals privately or through regional auction houses.
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LJCal
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 11, 2020 22:41:37 GMT 1, I wouldnโt waste your time unless your prepared to pay well over guide. Christieโs is the last place Iโd buy Banksy from, youre up against international collectors and galleries with very deep pockets. Would people still buy from auction houses after BBay is up? And if so, would they still sell for more than BBay? I feel like Buying direct from an auction run by Banksy would push premiums up, as you get more validation and don't have to wait in line for a COA.ย
People with the rare and high value items will still go to the big 3 auction houses. Also the format Bbay will run will mean you may need to wait a while to sell your print through them. There will still be plenty of business to go round but I think on the lower value multiples auction houses will lose out to a degree.
I wouldnโt waste your time unless your prepared to pay well over guide. Christieโs is the last place Iโd buy Banksy from, youre up against international collectors and galleries with very deep pockets. Would people still buy from auction houses after BBay is up? And if so, would they still sell for more than BBay? I feel like Buying direct from an auction run by Banksy would push premiums up, as you get more validation and don't have to wait in line for a COA.ย People with the rare and high value items will still go to the big 3 auction houses. Also the format Bbay will run will mean you may need to wait a while to sell your print through them. There will still be plenty of business to go round but I think on the lower value multiples auction houses will lose out to a degree.
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LJCal
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 11, 2020 23:00:48 GMT 1, People with the rare and high value items will still go to the big 3 auction houses. Also the format Bbay will run will mean you may need to wait a while to sell your print through them. There will still be plenty of business to go round but I think on the lower value multiples auction houses will lose out to a degree. What is โthe format Bbay will runโ? Timed auctions but theyโll only allow one print from an edition to run at the same time. So if they end up with say 6 people wanting to sell Very Little Helps youโll have to wait your turn until the other auctions have concluded.
People with the rare and high value items will still go to the big 3 auction houses. Also the format Bbay will run will mean you may need to wait a while to sell your print through them. There will still be plenty of business to go round but I think on the lower value multiples auction houses will lose out to a degree. What is โthe format Bbay will runโ? Timed auctions but theyโll only allow one print from an edition to run at the same time. So if they end up with say 6 people wanting to sell Very Little Helps youโll have to wait your turn until the other auctions have concluded.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 23:05:10 GMT 1, What is โthe format Bbay will runโ? Timed auctions but theyโll only allow one print from an edition to run at the same time. So if they end up with say 6 people wanting to sell Very Little Helps youโll have to wait your turn until the other auctions have concluded.ย
This is all rumour, fyi
What is โthe format Bbay will runโ? Timed auctions but theyโll only allow one print from an edition to run at the same time. So if they end up with say 6 people wanting to sell Very Little Helps youโll have to wait your turn until the other auctions have concluded.ย This is all rumour, fyi
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LJCal
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 11, 2020 23:26:50 GMT 1, Timed auctions but theyโll only allow one print from an edition to run at the same time. So if they end up with say 6 people wanting to sell Very Little Helps youโll have to wait your turn until the other auctions have concluded. Thatโs how itโs working is it? Thatโs what you know? Youโre not going to wait long to find out. Iโve heard that 2nd hand but Iโm pretty certain itโs accurate
Timed auctions but theyโll only allow one print from an edition to run at the same time. So if they end up with say 6 people wanting to sell Very Little Helps youโll have to wait your turn until the other auctions have concluded. Thatโs how itโs working is it? Thatโs what you know? Youโre not going to wait long to find out. Iโve heard that 2nd hand but Iโm pretty certain itโs accurate
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LJCal
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 11, 2020 23:28:55 GMT 1, Timed auctions but theyโll only allow one print from an edition to run at the same time. So if they end up with say 6 people wanting to sell Very Little Helps youโll have to wait your turn until the other auctions have concluded. This is all rumour, fyi I donโt work for pest control so obviously, Iโm confident thatโs how itโs going to work but donโt sue me if it follows a different format
Timed auctions but theyโll only allow one print from an edition to run at the same time. So if they end up with say 6 people wanting to sell Very Little Helps youโll have to wait your turn until the other auctions have concluded. This is all rumour, fyi I donโt work for pest control so obviously, Iโm confident thatโs how itโs going to work but donโt sue me if it follows a different format
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by sbash on Mar 11, 2020 23:32:29 GMT 1, Just saying, but if I had and wanted to sell a high value Banksy piece (which I don't sadly!) I would most definitely go for the big auction houses without question, rather than through Banksy BBay or whatever that becomes.... because I'm certain that would fetch a higher price than the Banksy route....
Just saying, but if I had and wanted to sell a high value Banksy piece (which I don't sadly!) I would most definitely go for the big auction houses without question, rather than through Banksy BBay or whatever that becomes.... because I'm certain that would fetch a higher price than the Banksy route....
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 23:33:45 GMT 1, Thatโs how itโs working is it? Thatโs what you know? Youโre not going to wait long to find out. Iโve heard that 2nd hand but Iโm pretty certain itโs accurate
BBAY isn't an auction at all.
It's a boot fair, held every sunday at 8 am at various TBC locations around the country. Its set up around the old acid house scene, you get a number......
the prize for the first 100 people every sunday to limited edition smiley face, the colourways change every week, and a TDK cassette with good music and some clues to the next location
Thatโs how itโs working is it? Thatโs what you know? Youโre not going to wait long to find out. Iโve heard that 2nd hand but Iโm pretty certain itโs accurate BBAY isn't an auction at all. It's a boot fair, held every sunday at 8 am at various TBC locations around the country. Its set up around the old acid house scene, you get a number...... the prize for the first 100 people every sunday to limited edition smiley face, the colourways change every week, and a TDK cassette with good music and some clues to the next location
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LJCal
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 11, 2020 23:34:33 GMT 1, Just saying, but if I had and wanted to sell a high value Banksy piece (which I don't sadly!) I would most definitely go for the big auction houses without question, rather than through Banksy BBay or whatever that becomes.... because I'm certain that would fetch a higher price than the Banksy route.... Agreed a live auction at a posh auction house will flush out higher Calibre buyers. I expect BBay will be useful for a lot of people selling and buying prints though
Just saying, but if I had and wanted to sell a high value Banksy piece (which I don't sadly!) I would most definitely go for the big auction houses without question, rather than through Banksy BBay or whatever that becomes.... because I'm certain that would fetch a higher price than the Banksy route.... Agreed a live auction at a posh auction house will flush out higher Calibre buyers. I expect BBay will be useful for a lot of people selling and buying prints though
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Terry Fuckwitt on Mar 11, 2020 23:39:46 GMT 1, Youโre not going to wait long to find out. Iโve heard that 2nd hand but Iโm pretty certain itโs accurateย ย BBAY isn't an auction at all. It's a boot fair, held every sunday at 8 am at various TBC locations around the country.ย Its set up around the old acid house scene, you get a number...... the prize for the first 100 people every sunday toย limited edition smiley face, the colourways change every week, and a TDK cassette with good music and some clues to the next location
Now we're talking! This is how it should be done. I've got my acid shirt on, my whistle round me neck and a vicks up my nose, bring it on๐
Youโre not going to wait long to find out. Iโve heard that 2nd hand but Iโm pretty certain itโs accurateย ย BBAY isn't an auction at all. It's a boot fair, held every sunday at 8 am at various TBC locations around the country.ย Its set up around the old acid house scene, you get a number...... the prize for the first 100 people every sunday toย limited edition smiley face, the colourways change every week, and a TDK cassette with good music and some clues to the next location Now we're talking! This is how it should be done. I've got my acid shirt on, my whistle round me neck and a vicks up my nose, bring it on๐
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LJCal
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by LJCal on Mar 11, 2020 23:43:45 GMT 1, I donโt work for pest control so obviously, Iโm confident thatโs how itโs going to work but donโt sue me if it follows a different format Your habit of presenting second or third hand conjecture as fact in order to sound โin the knowโ is mildly embarrassing. Just a heads up. Iโm not at all embarrassed and your opinion of me really doesnโt bother me so why donโt you jog on.
I donโt work for pest control so obviously, Iโm confident thatโs how itโs going to work but donโt sue me if it follows a different format Your habit of presenting second or third hand conjecture as fact in order to sound โin the knowโ is mildly embarrassing. Just a heads up. Iโm not at all embarrassed and your opinion of me really doesnโt bother me so why donโt you jog on.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Mar 11, 2020 23:49:46 GMT 1, Your habit of presenting second or third hand conjecture as fact in order to sound โin the knowโ is mildly embarrassing. Just a heads up. Iโm not at all embarrassed and your opinion of me really doesnโt bother me so why donโt you jog on.ย dont fck with the Lancelot.
Your habit of presenting second or third hand conjecture as fact in order to sound โin the knowโ is mildly embarrassing. Just a heads up. Iโm not at all embarrassed and your opinion of me really doesnโt bother me so why donโt you jog on.ย dont fck with the Lancelot.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Mar 14, 2020 14:00:42 GMT 1, Sotheby's Made in Britain LIVE AUCTION BEGINS:17 Mar 2020 | 10:30 AM GMT David Shrigley, Bridget Riley, The Connor Brothers, Julian Opie, Chris Levine, Tracey Emin, David Hockney, Damien Hirst, STIK, Harland Miller, 291 lots www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/made-in-britain www.sothebys.com/en/articles/rule-britannia-discover-the-very-best-of-british-art?
Sotheby's Made in Britain LIVE AUCTION BEGINS:17 Mar 2020 | 10:30 AM GMT David Shrigley, Bridget Riley, The Connor Brothers, Julian Opie, Chris Levine, Tracey Emin, David Hockney, Damien Hirst, STIK, Harland Miller, 291 lots www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/made-in-britain www.sothebys.com/en/articles/rule-britannia-discover-the-very-best-of-british-art?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by lv90210 on Mar 16, 2020 7:54:30 GMT 1, This seems to be moving along nicely.......
Are we going to see some new records broken ?
This seems to be moving along nicely.......
Are we going to see some new records broken ?
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Unica
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Mar 16, 2020 9:12:21 GMT 1, About ยฃ80k already for the the unsigned GWB with 10 days left, Banksy art a safe haven.
About ยฃ80k already for the the unsigned GWB with 10 days left, Banksy art a safe haven.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by gross on Mar 16, 2020 10:39:27 GMT 1, Global recession going to be on the way
Global recession going to be on the way
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 11:42:25 GMT 1, Global recession going to be on the way All the more reason to buy a safe haven asset
Global recession going to be on the way All the more reason to buy a safe haven asset
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by fusion0001 on Mar 16, 2020 11:59:15 GMT 1, The 2008-2009 recession did cut Banksy print values by more than half, but I guess his position was not a blue-chip artist back then.
At the same time, none of the smaller economic / stock market dips since 2010 affected the performance of Banksy prints.
Hard to say how the situation will develop, but itโs hard to see that there would be completely no impact as discretionary spend declines and at the same time speculative buyers hold off and wait to see how it moves. My guess would be a flattening our or a small correction that could lay path to sustainable future growth in value.
The 2008-2009 recession did cut Banksy print values by more than half, but I guess his position was not a blue-chip artist back then.
At the same time, none of the smaller economic / stock market dips since 2010 affected the performance of Banksy prints.
Hard to say how the situation will develop, but itโs hard to see that there would be completely no impact as discretionary spend declines and at the same time speculative buyers hold off and wait to see how it moves. My guess would be a flattening our or a small correction that could lay path to sustainable future growth in value.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 12:13:06 GMT 1, The 2008-2009 recession did cut Banksy print values by more than half, but I guess his position was not a blue-chip artist back then. At the same time, none of the smaller economic / stock market dips since 2010 affected the performance of Banksy prints. Hard to say how the situation will develop, but itโs hard to see that there would be completely no impact as discretionary spend declines and at the same time speculative buyers hold off and wait to see how it moves. My guess would be a flattening our or a small correction that could lay path to sustainable future growth in value. This is more like 9/11, less like 2008-9
Market will recover by the end of the year. heavily indebted companies will be weeded out but such is life.
The 2008-2009 recession did cut Banksy print values by more than half, but I guess his position was not a blue-chip artist back then. At the same time, none of the smaller economic / stock market dips since 2010 affected the performance of Banksy prints. Hard to say how the situation will develop, but itโs hard to see that there would be completely no impact as discretionary spend declines and at the same time speculative buyers hold off and wait to see how it moves. My guess would be a flattening our or a small correction that could lay path to sustainable future growth in value. This is more like 9/11, less like 2008-9 Market will recover by the end of the year. heavily indebted companies will be weeded out but such is life.
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gross
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by gross on Mar 16, 2020 12:52:06 GMT 1, The 2008-2009 recession did cut Banksy print values by more than half, but I guess his position was not a blue-chip artist back then. At the same time, none of the smaller economic / stock market dips since 2010 affected the performance of Banksy prints. Hard to say how the situation will develop, but itโs hard to see that there would be completely no impact as discretionary spend declines and at the same time speculative buyers hold off and wait to see how it moves. My guess would be a flattening our or a small correction that could lay path to sustainable future growth in value. This is more like 9/11, less like 2008-9 Market will recover by the end of the year. heavily indebted companies will be weeded out but such is life. in 2007 Warhol market lost more than 40% of its value from the peak to the bottom
The 2008-2009 recession did cut Banksy print values by more than half, but I guess his position was not a blue-chip artist back then. At the same time, none of the smaller economic / stock market dips since 2010 affected the performance of Banksy prints. Hard to say how the situation will develop, but itโs hard to see that there would be completely no impact as discretionary spend declines and at the same time speculative buyers hold off and wait to see how it moves. My guess would be a flattening our or a small correction that could lay path to sustainable future growth in value. This is more like 9/11, less like 2008-9 Market will recover by the end of the year. heavily indebted companies will be weeded out but such is life. in 2007 Warhol market lost more than 40% of its value from the peak to the bottom
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Lazarus II
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Mar 16, 2020 14:24:44 GMT 1, Global recession going to be on the way a great time for any sort of gallery to sweep up some bargains as panic'd sellers flood the market with their Banksy prints.
Global recession going to be on the way a great time for any sort of gallery to sweep up some bargains as panic'd sellers flood the market with their Banksy prints.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 16, 2020 15:49:36 GMT 1, Global recession going to be on the way a great time for any sort of gallery to sweep up some bargains as panic'd sellers flood the market with their Banksy prints. No idea what "panic'd sellers" are but some of us have money ready to make purchases. Sell now before lockdown.
Global recession going to be on the way a great time for any sort of gallery to sweep up some bargains as panic'd sellers flood the market with their Banksy prints. No idea what "panic'd sellers" are but some of us have money ready to make purchases. Sell now before lockdown.
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Lazarus II
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lazarus II on Mar 16, 2020 15:54:23 GMT 1, a great time for any sort of gallery to sweep up some bargains as panic'd sellers flood the market with their Banksy prints. No idea what "panic'd sellers" are but some of us have money ready to make purchases. Sell now before lockdown.ย you and Gross both then but Big Bob always has the money in any climate or crisis.
a great time for any sort of gallery to sweep up some bargains as panic'd sellers flood the market with their Banksy prints. No idea what "panic'd sellers" are but some of us have money ready to make purchases. Sell now before lockdown.ย you and Gross both then but Big Bob always has the money in any climate or crisis.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by samfrost on Mar 16, 2020 16:00:03 GMT 1, Some decent levels currently, but early in sale. Surprised to not see any real OGs like the first sale.
Some decent levels currently, but early in sale. Surprised to not see any real OGs like the first sale.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Buff Monster Fan on Mar 16, 2020 16:23:13 GMT 1, Keeping an eye on that Gold Flags - drool
Keeping an eye on that Gold Flags - drool
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 16:25:28 GMT 1, Jeez. That Rude Copper looks like it's been used as a fish & chip wrapper...
Jeez. That Rude Copper looks like it's been used as a fish & chip wrapper...
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