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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by robo on Mar 18, 2021 18:58:51 GMT 1, Ran the figures on the banksy-value.com index. The overall index is very strong at +11.88% but largely driven by a small number of prints doing really well and rest being average.
Good analysis.
Is this rise based just off this auction?
What happens if you separate by signed and unsigned? Or even signed and one-offs?
Ran the figures on the banksy-value.com index. The overall index is very strong at +11.88% but largely driven by a small number of prints doing really well and rest being average. Good analysis. Is this rise based just off this auction? What happens if you separate by signed and unsigned? Or even signed and one-offs? |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by mj on Mar 18, 2021 19:02:41 GMT 1, As owner of a us TM I am stoked for the result but I think this was a one off. Realistic I value it in the mid 40's.
But what do I know of this crazy market
As owner of a us TM I am stoked for the result but I think this was a one off. Realistic I value it in the mid 40's.
But what do I know of this crazy market
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by dirtypete on Mar 18, 2021 19:08:17 GMT 1, You’re probably right. I can only theorise that a few bidders missed out on the different colourway TM and then FOMO took them into a bidding war on the vanilla version.
I’d be surprised if this was the new market price, but who knows!
You’re probably right. I can only theorise that a few bidders missed out on the different colourway TM and then FOMO took them into a bidding war on the vanilla version.
I’d be surprised if this was the new market price, but who knows!
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by jp226 on Mar 18, 2021 19:13:02 GMT 1, You’re probably right. I can only theorise that a few bidders missed out on the different colourway TM and then FOMO took them into a bidding war on the vanilla version. I’d be surprised if this was the new market price, but who knows!
Christies later this month will be a good indicator
You’re probably right. I can only theorise that a few bidders missed out on the different colourway TM and then FOMO took them into a bidding war on the vanilla version. I’d be surprised if this was the new market price, but who knows! As an owner of a TM, I think realistically, prices are around $60 - 65k USD for an unsigned. Honestly, who knows anymore.... Christies later this month will be a good indicator |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Phear Loathing on Mar 18, 2021 20:00:46 GMT 1, As an owner of sky blue ap CYW would be happy to take 420k and selll to an interested party.
As an owner of sky blue ap CYW would be happy to take 420k and selll to an interested party.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 20:26:45 GMT 1, time for prices to settle a bit though, lets be honest. jackpot is behind us
time for prices to settle a bit though, lets be honest. jackpot is behind us
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Dexter Bulldog on Mar 18, 2021 21:04:20 GMT 1, As an owner of sky blue ap Choose Your Weapon would be happy to take 420k and selll to an interested party.
As an owner of sky blue ap Choose Your Weapon would be happy to take 420k and selll to an interested party. does hangup still have the white w red dots for that? seemed crazy a month ago, seems like a steal now |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by jp226 on Mar 18, 2021 21:17:32 GMT 1, time for prices to settle a bit though, lets be honest. jackpot is behind us 
time for prices to settle a bit though, lets be honest. jackpot is behind us Pretty sure this has been said consistently for the last several years |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by F*X on Mar 18, 2021 21:42:16 GMT 1, As an owner of sky blue ap Choose Your Weapon would be happy to take 420k and selll to an interested party. To quote Aristotle "One swallow a Porn Star does not make"
As an owner of sky blue ap Choose Your Weapon would be happy to take 420k and selll to an interested party. To quote Aristotle "One swallow a Porn Star does not make"
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by letterpressed on Mar 18, 2021 21:43:03 GMT 1, Maybe everyone is buying Crypto at the moment... Banksy or Bitcoin? I know what I would rather buy for a long term investment.
Maybe everyone is buying Crypto at the moment... Banksy or Bitcoin? I know what I would rather buy for a long term investment.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by marquis on Mar 18, 2021 22:20:27 GMT 1, Maybe everyone is buying Crypto at the moment... Banksy or Bitcoin? I know what I would rather buy for a long term investment.
I'm fortunate to have a Banksy, and some Bitcoin. I'm going to have to sell one or the other though at some point to put towards a deposit on a flat. Bitcoin has greater upside potential, it seems, but Banksy less likely to totally crash, unless he's involved in some scandal...
Maybe everyone is buying Crypto at the moment... Banksy or Bitcoin? I know what I would rather buy for a long term investment. I'm fortunate to have a Banksy, and some Bitcoin. I'm going to have to sell one or the other though at some point to put towards a deposit on a flat. Bitcoin has greater upside potential, it seems, but Banksy less likely to totally crash, unless he's involved in some scandal... |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by urbanny on Mar 18, 2021 23:41:26 GMT 1, Wow, some really poor results. Any thoughts why? Seemed well marketed. Condition concerns?
Wow, some really poor results. Any thoughts why? Seemed well marketed. Condition concerns?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Spenie on Mar 18, 2021 23:46:57 GMT 1, Wow, some really poor results. Any thoughts why? Seemed well marketed. Condition concerns?
Wow, some really poor results. Any thoughts why? Seemed well marketed. Condition concerns? Wheres artdelight when you need him? |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by sgolby on Mar 18, 2021 23:49:02 GMT 1, I can’t believe people are talking about these results being weak. These are pieces of paper, mostly in multiples, selling for 2 to 3 times what they were going for just 2 years ago. If you think they are weak, please sell your banksy’s and use the money for a psychiatrist.
I can’t believe people are talking about these results being weak. These are pieces of paper, mostly in multiples, selling for 2 to 3 times what they were going for just 2 years ago. If you think they are weak, please sell your banksy’s and use the money for a psychiatrist.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Spenie on Mar 18, 2021 23:58:42 GMT 1, I can’t believe people are talking about these results being weak. These are pieces of paper, mostly in multiples, selling for 2 to 3 times what they were going for just 2 years ago. If you think they are weak, please sell your banksy’s and use the money for a psychiatrist.
I can’t believe people are talking about these results being weak. These are pieces of paper, mostly in multiples, selling for 2 to 3 times what they were going for just 2 years ago. If you think they are weak, please sell your banksy’s and use the money for a psychiatrist. The problem is so many people claiming to know the market are talking silly prices , so when they aren't achieved it's deemed to be a weak auction. I think if you paid £500 for a print and it achieves £100,000+ in 10 years that's a bloody good result. Just don't read too much into the bullshit prices being mention on here, usually people who own the print, and are looking after an investment. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by sgolby on Mar 19, 2021 0:02:23 GMT 1, I can’t believe people are talking about these results being weak. These are pieces of paper, mostly in multiples, selling for 2 to 3 times what they were going for just 2 years ago. If you think they are weak, please sell your banksy’s and use the money for a psychiatrist. The problem is so many people claiming to know the market are talking silly prices , so when they aren't achieved it's deemed to be a weak auction. I think if you paid £500 for a print and it achieves £100,000+ in 10 years that's a bloody good result. Just don't read too much into the bullshit prices being mention on here, usually people who own and are looking after an investment.
Oh, i agree. Believe me, i hate that i had to sell two of my prints to survive financially, so when i see people bellyaching about the “weak prices,” i think to myself banksy should do morons V2, about the ridiculousness of his “market fans” these days.
I can’t believe people are talking about these results being weak. These are pieces of paper, mostly in multiples, selling for 2 to 3 times what they were going for just 2 years ago. If you think they are weak, please sell your banksy’s and use the money for a psychiatrist. The problem is so many people claiming to know the market are talking silly prices , so when they aren't achieved it's deemed to be a weak auction. I think if you paid £500 for a print and it achieves £100,000+ in 10 years that's a bloody good result. Just don't read too much into the bullshit prices being mention on here, usually people who own and are looking after an investment. Oh, i agree. Believe me, i hate that i had to sell two of my prints to survive financially, so when i see people bellyaching about the “weak prices,” i think to myself banksy should do morons V2, about the ridiculousness of his “market fans” these days. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by tab1 on Mar 19, 2021 0:12:20 GMT 1, I can’t believe people are talking about these results being weak. These are pieces of paper, mostly in multiples, selling for 2 to 3 times what they were going for just 2 years ago. If you think they are weak, please sell your banksy’s and use the money for a psychiatrist.
Greed sets in, in some cases and individuals can become hostile to protect their investments.
Private sales will be latest auction price inc fees +5% a week later now.
As you quote 2-3 times a price rise in a short period and more with some other prints, the market has been a straight increase constantly for a good few years now, you would think owners would be grateful with any rises as long as they have not dipped
I can’t believe people are talking about these results being weak. These are pieces of paper, mostly in multiples, selling for 2 to 3 times what they were going for just 2 years ago. If you think they are weak, please sell your banksy’s and use the money for a psychiatrist. Greed sets in, in some cases and individuals can become hostile to protect their investments. Private sales will be latest auction price inc fees +5% a week later now. As you quote 2-3 times a price rise in a short period and more with some other prints, the market has been a straight increase constantly for a good few years now, you would think owners would be grateful with any rises as long as they have not dipped |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by sgolby on Mar 19, 2021 0:35:21 GMT 1, tab1 . I agree completely. When i get sad about selling my prints it is not because i wish I made more. It is because i know i will never be able to afford to buy them back and I truly loved them. I know some, many of you think that is weak or stupid, but it’s the truth.
tab1 . I agree completely. When i get sad about selling my prints it is not because i wish I made more. It is because i know i will never be able to afford to buy them back and I truly loved them. I know some, many of you think that is weak or stupid, but it’s the truth.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by sgolby on Mar 19, 2021 1:01:34 GMT 1, tab1 . I agree completely. When i get sad about selling my prints it is not because i wish I made more. It is because i know i will never be able to afford to buy them back and I truly loved them. I know some, many of you think that is weak or stupid, but it’s the truth. West country prince, my man.
He is mia setting up his new studio. However one of them was special and the story made it irreplaceable.
tab1 . I agree completely. When i get sad about selling my prints it is not because i wish I made more. It is because i know i will never be able to afford to buy them back and I truly loved them. I know some, many of you think that is weak or stupid, but it’s the truth. West country prince, my man. He is mia setting up his new studio. However one of them was special and the story made it irreplaceable. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by tab1 on Mar 19, 2021 1:04:37 GMT 1, tab1 . I agree completely. When i get sad about selling my prints it is not because i wish I made more. It is because i know i will never be able to afford to buy them back and I truly loved them. I know some, many of you think that is weak or stupid, but it’s the truth.
Would think most true collectors would think the same, and the way the market moves most selling now would Not be able to buy back into the market, nothing weak or stupid with your thoughts.most holding pieces now are speculators and holding as part of their investment portfolios,total different crowd compared to 10 years ago
The prices seen now are astonishing
tab1 . I agree completely. When i get sad about selling my prints it is not because i wish I made more. It is because i know i will never be able to afford to buy them back and I truly loved them. I know some, many of you think that is weak or stupid, but it’s the truth. Would think most true collectors would think the same, and the way the market moves most selling now would Not be able to buy back into the market, nothing weak or stupid with your thoughts.most holding pieces now are speculators and holding as part of their investment portfolios,total different crowd compared to 10 years ago The prices seen now are astonishing |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by ab3 on Mar 19, 2021 8:53:21 GMT 1, Few things spring to mind here reading the comments.
Supply and demand for one.
If there are eight buyers for a GWRB and only one being sold, the price is going to be high. If there are eight buyers and 3 or 4 (like this year already) GWRB, the price will probably be lower.
Also remember that 'there is no loss in making a profit' for those of you who did sell in the past. You were probably pretty happy with what you got and thinking you could have got more now will only lead down a dark road and not do you any good.
Few things spring to mind here reading the comments.
Supply and demand for one.
If there are eight buyers for a GWRB and only one being sold, the price is going to be high. If there are eight buyers and 3 or 4 (like this year already) GWRB, the price will probably be lower.
Also remember that 'there is no loss in making a profit' for those of you who did sell in the past. You were probably pretty happy with what you got and thinking you could have got more now will only lead down a dark road and not do you any good.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by kentkid on Mar 19, 2021 10:14:19 GMT 1, I’m actually surprised the prices have remained so high, although it’s good to see of course!
I know very little about these things, but I would have thought the flooding of the market over the last few months would have led to a natural decline in prices realised, as there appears to be multiple opportunities per month to acquire a whole host of Banksy prints.
For example, I would think a Turf War would fetch a really good price at the moment. Not based on anything more than the fact we haven’t seen one available at auction for a while. To many, it’s not one of Banksy’s most desirable prints, but I would expect it to command a good price due to it’s relative lack of availability.
I just checked www.banksy-value.com/, and there have been 6 unsigned Happy Chopper prints available at buy at auction since the last unsigned Turf War print was sold at auction.
Does scarcity lead to a higher price?
It would be interesting to see the prices achieved if there was just one auction for Banksy prints every 3 or 6 months, as you would then have more people interested in the upcoming sale. At the moment, potential buyers can afford to miss out on a Banksy print as they’ll likely get another opportunity to buy again in a couple of weeks. I guess this isn’t going to happen anytime soon though, as people are quite rightly looking to cash-in for life changing amounts of money.
Just my thoughts, and a little disclaimer: I own an unsigned Happy Chopper, but not an unsigned Turf War - although I very nearly bought one for £8k around 5 years ago but thought it was too expensive at the time. Oh well, we live and learn!
Either way, anyone fortunate enough to own a Banksy print should consider themselves very lucky - I know I do.
I’m actually surprised the prices have remained so high, although it’s good to see of course! I know very little about these things, but I would have thought the flooding of the market over the last few months would have led to a natural decline in prices realised, as there appears to be multiple opportunities per month to acquire a whole host of Banksy prints. For example, I would think a Turf War would fetch a really good price at the moment. Not based on anything more than the fact we haven’t seen one available at auction for a while. To many, it’s not one of Banksy’s most desirable prints, but I would expect it to command a good price due to it’s relative lack of availability. I just checked www.banksy-value.com/, and there have been 6 unsigned Happy Chopper prints available at buy at auction since the last unsigned Turf War print was sold at auction. Does scarcity lead to a higher price? It would be interesting to see the prices achieved if there was just one auction for Banksy prints every 3 or 6 months, as you would then have more people interested in the upcoming sale. At the moment, potential buyers can afford to miss out on a Banksy print as they’ll likely get another opportunity to buy again in a couple of weeks. I guess this isn’t going to happen anytime soon though, as people are quite rightly looking to cash-in for life changing amounts of money. Just my thoughts, and a little disclaimer: I own an unsigned Happy Chopper, but not an unsigned Turf War - although I very nearly bought one for £8k around 5 years ago but thought it was too expensive at the time. Oh well, we live and learn! Either way, anyone fortunate enough to own a Banksy print should consider themselves very lucky - I know I do. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Mass on Mar 19, 2021 11:24:52 GMT 1, Total paid in BP ARR & VAT Total OF 35% Premium Rude Copper Unsigned £51300 Love Is In The Air Unsigned £229500 HMV Dog Unsigned £56700 Bomb Hugger Unsigned £54000 Grannies Signed £114750 Soup Can (Colour) Signed £101250 Kate Signed £297000 Soup Can Unsigned £47250 Very Little Helps Signed £81000 Grannies Hand Sprayed Signed £243000 Get Out While You Can Unsigned £54000 Love Rat Unsigned £67500 Girl With Balloon Unsigned £216000 Toxic Mary Colour way Gold & Pink Signed £128250 Get Out While You Can Unsigned £56700 Flag (Gold Formica) Signed £87750 CND Soldiers Signed £74250 Monkey Queen Unsigned £51300 Queen Vic Unsigned £40500 Grin Reaper AP Signed £108000 Have a Nice Day Unsigned £47250 Happy Choppers Unsigned £67500 Bomb Middle England Unsigned £35100 Flying Copper Unsigned £67500 Golf Sale Signed £60750 Napalm Unsigned £54000 CND Soldiers Unsigned £56700 Flag (Silver Formica) Signed £81000 Golf Sale Unsigned £40500 Toxic Mary Unsigned £94500 Jack and Jill Signed £101250 I Fought The Law Signed £60750 Flag (Gold) Signed £60750 Barcode Unsigned £81000 Weston Super Mare Unsigned £35100 Pulp Fiction Unsigned £87750 Laugh Now Signed £162000 I Fought The Law Unsigned £37800 Grannies Unsigned £40500 Festival AP Signed £135000 Applause (POW) Unsigned £47250 Morons (Sepia) Signed £81000 Flag (Silver) Unsigned 35100 Donuts (Chocolate) Signed £108000 Choose Your Weapon (25 edition) Signed £324000 Choose Your Weapon (58 edition) Signed £216000
was there a signed happy choppers?
Total paid in BP ARR & VAT Total OF 35% Premium Rude Copper Unsigned £51300 Love Is In The Air Unsigned £229500 HMV Dog Unsigned £56700 Bomb Hugger Unsigned £54000 Grannies Signed £114750 Soup Can (Colour) Signed £101250 Kate Signed £297000 Soup Can Unsigned £47250 Very Little Helps Signed £81000 Grannies Hand Sprayed Signed £243000 Get Out While You Can Unsigned £54000 Love Rat Unsigned £67500 Girl With Balloon Unsigned £216000 Toxic Mary Colour way Gold & Pink Signed £128250 Get Out While You Can Unsigned £56700 Flag (Gold Formica) Signed £87750 CND Soldiers Signed £74250 Monkey Queen Unsigned £51300 Queen Vic Unsigned £40500 Grin Reaper AP Signed £108000 Have a Nice Day Unsigned £47250 Happy Choppers Unsigned £67500 Bomb Middle England Unsigned £35100 Flying Copper Unsigned £67500 Golf Sale Signed £60750 Napalm Unsigned £54000 CND Soldiers Unsigned £56700 Flag (Silver Formica) Signed £81000 Golf Sale Unsigned £40500 Toxic Mary Unsigned £94500 Jack and Jill Signed £101250 I Fought The Law Signed £60750 Flag (Gold) Signed £60750 Barcode Unsigned £81000 Weston Super Mare Unsigned £35100 Pulp Fiction Unsigned £87750 Laugh Now Signed £162000 I Fought The Law Unsigned £37800 Grannies Unsigned £40500 Festival AP Signed £135000 Applause (POW) Unsigned £47250 Morons (Sepia) Signed £81000 Flag (Silver) Unsigned 35100 Donuts (Chocolate) Signed £108000 Choose Your Weapon (25 edition) Signed £324000 Choose Your Weapon (58 edition) Signed £216000 was there a signed happy choppers? |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Lazarus II on Mar 19, 2021 11:42:42 GMT 1, was there a signed happy choppers?
Was pulled from the auction a day or so before the auction.
was there a signed happy choppers?
Was pulled from the auction a day or so before the auction.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by stuckeyc on Mar 19, 2021 12:11:54 GMT 1, Is that price right on the unsigned Toxic Mary? I have always thought it was one of his best
Is that price right on the unsigned Toxic Mary? I have always thought it was one of his best
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by Dice on Mar 19, 2021 14:14:11 GMT 1, The biggest surprise here was QJG at over 200k. One sold in dec or jan (digard?) for just over £100k and I thought that was about right. Nuts!
The biggest surprise here was QJG at over 200k. One sold in dec or jan (digard?) for just over £100k and I thought that was about right. Nuts!
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by robo on Mar 19, 2021 14:23:41 GMT 1, was there a signed happy choppers? Was pulled from the auction a day or so before the auction.
Seems like a signed happy choppers and a signed LIITA were both pulled from Sotheby’s in that case, likely due to Pest Control concerns. Both editions are appearing in the Christies auction though.
was there a signed happy choppers? Was pulled from the auction a day or so before the auction. Seems like a signed happy choppers and a signed LIITA were both pulled from Sotheby’s in that case, likely due to Pest Control concerns. Both editions are appearing in the Christies auction though. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions • LONDON 🇬🇧, by teabaggins on Mar 19, 2021 14:40:25 GMT 1, The biggest surprise here was QJG at over 200k. One sold in dec or jan (digard?) for just over £100k and I thought that was about right. Nuts!
CYW seems to having a push. Had an offer for 150 for my standard grey recently. Will happily let it go if it ever hits 200.
The biggest surprise here was QJG at over 200k. One sold in dec or jan (digard?) for just over £100k and I thought that was about right. Nuts! CYW seems to having a push. Had an offer for 150 for my standard grey recently. Will happily let it go if it ever hits 200. |
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