Dungle
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Dungle on Oct 23, 2019 20:07:38 GMT 1, Is that the Citrus one dude? Canโt find the sizes for it. Yeah, Citrus Approximately 32" x 24" Handmade in Greece by women in refugee camps, colours and trim will vary Every purchase directly supports refugees They are making a whole host of different items.
Is that the Citrus one dude? Canโt find the sizes for it. Yeah, Citrus Approximately 32" x 24" Handmade in Greece by women in refugee camps, colours and trim will vary Every purchase directly supports refugees They are making a whole host of different items.
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tab1
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by tab1 on Oct 24, 2019 1:03:54 GMT 1, Yeah, Citrus Approximately 32" x 24" Handmade in Greece by women in refugee camps, colours and trim will vary Every purchase directly supports refugees They are making a whole host of different items. Where did that pic come from wanted to buy one those bags , good toddler day bag ,not on the site
Yeah, Citrus Approximately 32" x 24" Handmade in Greece by women in refugee camps, colours and trim will vary Every purchase directly supports refugees They are making a whole host of different items. Where did that pic come from wanted to buy one those bags , good toddler day bag ,not on the site
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Dungle
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Dungle on Oct 24, 2019 5:47:34 GMT 1, They are making a whole host of different items. Where did that pic come from wanted to buy one those bags , good toddler day bag ,not on the site
My mother in law is in Lesvos at the moment providing legal help to the refugees.
They are making a whole host of different items. Where did that pic come from wanted to buy one those bags , good toddler day bag ,not on the site My mother in law is in Lesvos at the moment providing legal help to the refugees.
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met
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by met on Oct 24, 2019 14:36:08 GMT 1, Lets not say that art is subjective and then in the same breath tell nobokov heโs wrong for thinking its not art. If anything its a benefit to the forum to have people of varying opinions and I welcome the debate. Imagine how boring this place would be if we all just agreed with each other all the time By subjective I mean there is no "Bad" Art.
Using the same reasoning, you would also have to accept there is no "Good" Art.
__________
Perhaps we are conflating (i) quality and (ii) personal taste.
The first is based on objective or semi-objective criteria that are broadly agreed to be relevant by those who are well-informed in a particular field.
The second is entirely subjective, and not reliant upon the individual having any specialist knowledge whatsoever. It follows that a 5-year-old's personal taste in art is equally valid to that of a curator with three decades of professional experience.
__________
Another way to illustrate the same point:
I buy Nescafรฉ Original instant coffee granules in 300g jars. The flavour and aroma are fine with me. More importantly for my purposes, this gives me access to inexpensive caffeine that is very quick and convenient to prepare in large quantities.
But regardless of my personal taste, when judged according to standards widely accepted by knowledgeable and experienced coffee drinkers, I recognise that Nescafรฉ Original is considered bad coffee โ or not even real coffee. The fact I like it has zero impact on its objective quality.
We can take the analogy a step further:
Given my predilection for Nescafรฉ Original, it would not seem unreasonable for you to ignore or dismiss my opinion if we were having a serious discussion about the quality of different coffees.
You might assume โ quite fairly in my view โ that I don't have a trained, refined palate. Or I lack the breadth and depth of knowledge and experience one should expect from a credible, discerning judge of coffee. In other words, as far as coffee goes, that I don't really know what I'm talking about. This, despite my being a long-term, hardcore coffee-drinker.
[When it comes to art, I feel a similar way myself about collectors who express enthusiasm for the likes of JJ Adams, Martin Whatson, Alec Monopoly, The Connor Brothers or Mr Brainwash.]
__________
In case additional reading around the topic is of interest, see here and here.
Lets not say that art is subjective and then in the same breath tell nobokov heโs wrong for thinking its not art. If anything its a benefit to the forum to have people of varying opinions and I welcome the debate. Imagine how boring this place would be if we all just agreed with each other all the time By subjective I mean there is no "Bad" Art.Using the same reasoning, you would also have to accept there is no "Good" Art. __________ Perhaps we are conflating (i) quality and (ii) personal taste. The first is based on objective or semi-objective criteria that are broadly agreed to be relevant by those who are well-informed in a particular field. The second is entirely subjective, and not reliant upon the individual having any specialist knowledge whatsoever. It follows that a 5-year-old's personal taste in art is equally valid to that of a curator with three decades of professional experience. __________ Another way to illustrate the same point:I buy Nescafรฉ Original instant coffee granules in 300g jars. The flavour and aroma are fine with me. More importantly for my purposes, this gives me access to inexpensive caffeine that is very quick and convenient to prepare in large quantities. But regardless of my personal taste, when judged according to standards widely accepted by knowledgeable and experienced coffee drinkers, I recognise that Nescafรฉ Original is considered bad coffee โ or not even real coffee. The fact I like it has zero impact on its objective quality. We can take the analogy a step further: Given my predilection for Nescafรฉ Original, it would not seem unreasonable for you to ignore or dismiss my opinion if we were having a serious discussion about the quality of different coffees. You might assume โ quite fairly in my view โ that I don't have a trained, refined palate. Or I lack the breadth and depth of knowledge and experience one should expect from a credible, discerning judge of coffee. In other words, as far as coffee goes, that I don't really know what I'm talking about. This, despite my being a long-term, hardcore coffee-drinker. [When it comes to art, I feel a similar way myself about collectors who express enthusiasm for the likes of JJ Adams, Martin Whatson, Alec Monopoly, The Connor Brothers or Mr Brainwash.]__________ In case additional reading around the topic is of interest, see here and here.
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sameoldthing
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by sameoldthing on Oct 24, 2019 15:12:36 GMT 1, If anyone else decides they don't want to buy theirs get in touch.
They would probably contact the next on the list. Maybe!
If anyone else decides they don't want to buy theirs get in touch. They would probably contact the next on the list. Maybe!
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blerd
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by blerd on Oct 24, 2019 15:16:27 GMT 1, By subjective I mean there is no "Bad" Art.Using the same reasoning, you would also have to accept there is no "Good" Art. __________ Perhaps we are conflating (i) quality and (ii) personal taste. The first is based on objective or semi-objective criteria that are broadly agreed to be relevant by those who are well-informed in a particular field. The second is entirely subjective, and not reliant upon the individual having any specialist knowledge whatsoever. It follows that a 5-year-old's personal taste in art is equally valid to that of a curator with three decades of professional experience. __________ Another way to illustrate the same point:I buy Nescafรฉ Original instant coffee granules in 300g jars. The flavour and aroma are fine with me. More importantly for my purposes, this gives me access to inexpensive caffeine that is very quick and convenient to prepare in large quantities. But regardless of my personal taste, when judged according to standards widely accepted by knowledgeable and experienced coffee drinkers, I recognise that Nescafรฉ Original is considered bad coffee โ or not even real coffee. The fact I like it has zero impact on its objective quality. We can take the analogy a step further: Given my predilection for Nescafรฉ Original, it would not seem unreasonable for you to ignore or dismiss my opinion if we were having a serious discussion about the quality of different coffees. You might assume โ quite fairly in my view โ that I don't have a trained, refined palate. Or I lack the breadth and depth of knowledge and experience one should expect from a credible, discerning judge of coffee. In other words, as far as coffee goes, that I don't really know what I'm talking about. This, despite my being a long-term, hardcore coffee-drinker. [When it comes to art, I feel a similar way myself about collectors who express enthusiasm for the likes of JJ Adams, Martin Whatson, Alec Monopoly, The Connor Brothers or Mr Brainwash.]__________ In case additional reading around the topic is of interest, see here and here. Agreed.
By subjective I mean there is no "Bad" Art.Using the same reasoning, you would also have to accept there is no "Good" Art. __________ Perhaps we are conflating (i) quality and (ii) personal taste. The first is based on objective or semi-objective criteria that are broadly agreed to be relevant by those who are well-informed in a particular field. The second is entirely subjective, and not reliant upon the individual having any specialist knowledge whatsoever. It follows that a 5-year-old's personal taste in art is equally valid to that of a curator with three decades of professional experience. __________ Another way to illustrate the same point:I buy Nescafรฉ Original instant coffee granules in 300g jars. The flavour and aroma are fine with me. More importantly for my purposes, this gives me access to inexpensive caffeine that is very quick and convenient to prepare in large quantities. But regardless of my personal taste, when judged according to standards widely accepted by knowledgeable and experienced coffee drinkers, I recognise that Nescafรฉ Original is considered bad coffee โ or not even real coffee. The fact I like it has zero impact on its objective quality. We can take the analogy a step further: Given my predilection for Nescafรฉ Original, it would not seem unreasonable for you to ignore or dismiss my opinion if we were having a serious discussion about the quality of different coffees. You might assume โ quite fairly in my view โ that I don't have a trained, refined palate. Or I lack the breadth and depth of knowledge and experience one should expect from a credible, discerning judge of coffee. In other words, as far as coffee goes, that I don't really know what I'm talking about. This, despite my being a long-term, hardcore coffee-drinker. [When it comes to art, I feel a similar way myself about collectors who express enthusiasm for the likes of JJ Adams, Martin Whatson, Alec Monopoly, The Connor Brothers or Mr Brainwash.]__________ In case additional reading around the topic is of interest, see here and here. Agreed.
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tab1
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by tab1 on Oct 24, 2019 15:21:28 GMT 1, If anyone else decides they don't want to buy theirs get in touch. They would probably contact the next on the list. Maybe! A long waiting list is probably had on these , and non payers with in the certain time period to complete check out would default their chance to purchase and opportunity passes onto the next on the waiting list to purchase
If anyone else decides they don't want to buy theirs get in touch. They would probably contact the next on the list. Maybe! A long waiting list is probably had on these , and non payers with in the certain time period to complete check out would default their chance to purchase and opportunity passes onto the next on the waiting list to purchase
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sameoldthing
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by sameoldthing on Oct 24, 2019 15:38:46 GMT 1, They would probably contact the next on the list. Maybe! A long waiting list is probably had on these , and non payers with in the certain time period to complete check out would default their chance to purchase and opportunity passes onto the next on the waiting list to purchaseย
Nice one!
They would probably contact the next on the list. Maybe! A long waiting list is probably had on these , and non payers with in the certain time period to complete check out would default their chance to purchase and opportunity passes onto the next on the waiting list to purchaseย Nice one!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by dilu on Oct 24, 2019 17:42:36 GMT 1, By subjective I mean there is no "Bad" Art.Using the same reasoning, you would also have to accept there is no "Good" Art. __________ Perhaps we are conflating (i) quality and (ii) personal taste. The first is based on objective or semi-objective criteria that are broadly agreed to be relevant by those who are well-informed in a particular field. The second is entirely subjective, and not reliant upon the individual having any specialist knowledge whatsoever. It follows that a 5-year-old's personal taste in art is equally valid to that of a curator with three decades of professional experience. __________ Another way to illustrate the same point:I buy Nescafรฉ Original instant coffee granules in 300g jars. The flavour and aroma are fine with me. More importantly for my purposes, this gives me access to inexpensive caffeine that is very quick and convenient to prepare in large quantities. But regardless of my personal taste, when judged according to standards widely accepted by knowledgeable and experienced coffee drinkers, I recognise that Nescafรฉ Original is considered bad coffee โ or not even real coffee. The fact I like it has zero impact on its objective quality. We can take the analogy a step further: Given my predilection for Nescafรฉ Original, it would not seem unreasonable for you to ignore or dismiss my opinion if we were having a serious discussion about the quality of different coffees. You might assume โ quite fairly in my view โ that I don't have a trained, refined palate. Or I lack the breadth and depth of knowledge and experience one should expect from a credible, discerning judge of coffee. In other words, as far as coffee goes, that I don't really know what I'm talking about. This, despite my being a long-term, hardcore coffee-drinker. [When it comes to art, I feel a similar way myself about collectors who express enthusiasm for the likes of JJย Adams, Martin Whatson, Alec Monopoly, Theย Connor Brothers or Mrย Brainwash.]__________ In case additional reading around the topic is of interest, see here and here.
Completely agree with you.
Minus the choice coffee but here we have the rub. Thankfully you know your taste and are aware of the alternates and options but you remain happy. Not knowing your personal circumstances, financial youโre making a sound choice. However, I might attempt to influence you to go fair trade. But ultimately youโre an adult making choices, Iโm believing youโre competent. Your choices are not impacting on me or others so your coffee is cool.
That said and youโve alluded to it yourself, our inner thoughts tell us โhow can you trust anyone who enjoys Mr Brainwash?!โ But then itโs someone elseโs enjoyment that Iโll never understand.
And more importantly Iโm not going to get into a conversation with a crazy person as theyโll beat me down with their madness.
By subjective I mean there is no "Bad" Art.Using the same reasoning, you would also have to accept there is no "Good" Art. __________ Perhaps we are conflating (i) quality and (ii) personal taste. The first is based on objective or semi-objective criteria that are broadly agreed to be relevant by those who are well-informed in a particular field. The second is entirely subjective, and not reliant upon the individual having any specialist knowledge whatsoever. It follows that a 5-year-old's personal taste in art is equally valid to that of a curator with three decades of professional experience. __________ Another way to illustrate the same point:I buy Nescafรฉ Original instant coffee granules in 300g jars. The flavour and aroma are fine with me. More importantly for my purposes, this gives me access to inexpensive caffeine that is very quick and convenient to prepare in large quantities. But regardless of my personal taste, when judged according to standards widely accepted by knowledgeable and experienced coffee drinkers, I recognise that Nescafรฉ Original is considered bad coffee โ or not even real coffee. The fact I like it has zero impact on its objective quality. We can take the analogy a step further: Given my predilection for Nescafรฉ Original, it would not seem unreasonable for you to ignore or dismiss my opinion if we were having a serious discussion about the quality of different coffees. You might assume โ quite fairly in my view โ that I don't have a trained, refined palate. Or I lack the breadth and depth of knowledge and experience one should expect from a credible, discerning judge of coffee. In other words, as far as coffee goes, that I don't really know what I'm talking about. This, despite my being a long-term, hardcore coffee-drinker. [When it comes to art, I feel a similar way myself about collectors who express enthusiasm for the likes of JJย Adams, Martin Whatson, Alec Monopoly, Theย Connor Brothers or Mrย Brainwash.]__________ In case additional reading around the topic is of interest, see here and here. Completely agree with you. Minus the choice coffee but here we have the rub. Thankfully you know your taste and are aware of the alternates and options but you remain happy. Not knowing your personal circumstances, financial youโre making a sound choice. However, I might attempt to influence you to go fair trade. But ultimately youโre an adult making choices, Iโm believing youโre competent. Your choices are not impacting on me or others so your coffee is cool. That said and youโve alluded to it yourself, our inner thoughts tell us โhow can you trust anyone who enjoys Mr Brainwash?!โ But then itโs someone elseโs enjoyment that Iโll never understand. And more importantly Iโm not going to get into a conversation with a crazy person as theyโll beat me down with their madness.
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lv90210
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by lv90210 on Oct 24, 2019 17:58:39 GMT 1, Mats are back up ........
Mats are back up ........
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Not 4 The Thril on Oct 24, 2019 18:01:42 GMT 1, Mats are back up ........ on the love wlecomes site? still says sold out?
Mats are back up ........ on the love wlecomes site? still says sold out?
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tab1
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by tab1 on Oct 24, 2019 18:04:40 GMT 1, And more importantly Iโm not going to get into a conversation with a crazy person as theyโll beat me down with their madness. [ You already are , discussing a mat here , bit of crazzyness within everyone๐ค๐
And more importantly Iโm not going to get into a conversation with a crazy person as theyโll beat me down with their madness. [ You already are , discussing a mat here , bit of crazzyness within everyone๐ค๐
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Oct 24, 2019 19:00:08 GMT 1, Mats are back up ........ ?
Looks like they just charged the configuration of the page. Mine still showing sold out.
You sure they went live?
Mats are back up ........ ? Looks like they just charged the configuration of the page. Mine still showing sold out. You sure they went live?
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irl1
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by irl1 on Oct 24, 2019 19:14:11 GMT 1, Mats are back up ........ ? Looks like they just charged the configuration of the page. Mine still showing sold out. You sure they went live? He'll say mass if you ask him
Mats are back up ........ ? Looks like they just charged the configuration of the page. Mine still showing sold out. You sure they went live? He'll say mass if you ask him
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nobokov
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by nobokov on Oct 24, 2019 19:16:14 GMT 1, Simon says jump
Simon says jump
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 19:21:20 GMT 1, Simon says flipper cancellation because unlimited.ย Simon says art is magic as that Stormzy jacket just paid of my mortgage now it's sold on bbay.
Simon says flipper cancellation because unlimited.ย Simon says art is magic as that Stormzy jacket just paid of my mortgage now it's sold on bbay.
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lv90210
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by lv90210 on Oct 24, 2019 19:30:02 GMT 1, Mats are back up ........ ? Looks like they just charged the configuration of the page. Mine still showing sold out.ย You sure they went live?
People copping them.....
Mats are back up ........ ? Looks like they just charged the configuration of the page. Mine still showing sold out.ย You sure they went live? People copping them.....
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 19:41:26 GMT 1, ? Looks like they just charged the configuration of the page. Mine still showing sold out.ย You sure they went live? People copping them..... thanks for heads up just purchased.
? Looks like they just charged the configuration of the page. Mine still showing sold out.ย You sure they went live? People copping them..... thanks for heads up just purchased.
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A.R.T.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by A.R.T. on Oct 24, 2019 19:53:00 GMT 1, thanks for heads up just purchased.
Where?
thanks for heads up just purchased. Where?
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19818914
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by 19818914 on Oct 24, 2019 20:08:56 GMT 1, Thank you
Thank you
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nobokov
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by nobokov on Oct 24, 2019 20:10:37 GMT 1, Shipping confirmation received from the first batch๐คธ
Shipping confirmation received from the first batch๐คธ
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lv90210
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by lv90210 on Oct 24, 2019 20:10:56 GMT 1, Glad everyone has had a fruitful Thursday - shabba !
Glad everyone has had a fruitful Thursday - shabba !
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pfffffffffft
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Oct 24, 2019 20:11:48 GMT 1, Shipping confirmation received from the first batch๐คธ Whoa really???
Shipping confirmation received from the first batch๐คธ Whoa really???
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nobokov
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by nobokov on Oct 24, 2019 20:13:44 GMT 1, Shipping confirmation received from the first batch๐คธ Whoa really???
No, I was just getting on the misinformation bandwagon.
Shipping confirmation received from the first batch๐คธ Whoa really??? No, I was just getting on the misinformation bandwagon.
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pfffffffffft
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Oct 24, 2019 20:15:34 GMT 1, No, I was just getting on the misinformation bandwagon.
No, I was just getting on the misinformation bandwagon.
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lv90210
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by lv90210 on Oct 25, 2019 16:04:26 GMT 1, Re-stock online - quick !
Re-stock online - quick !
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lv90210
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by lv90210 on Oct 25, 2019 16:07:49 GMT 1, Re-stock online - quick ! Copped 50 thanks
Well done Jonny.
Re-stock online - quick ! Copped 50 thanks Well done Jonny.
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pfffffffffft
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Oct 25, 2019 16:55:19 GMT 1, Re-stock online - quick ! Lil' Douchey.
Re-stock online - quick ! Lil' Douchey.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 18:59:10 GMT 1, Re-stock online - quick ! Unbelievable. With the seven, seven-eleven, seven-eleven Seven even back do' little Joe I picked up the cash flow Then we played bones, and I'm yellin' domino Plus nobody I know got killed in South Central L.A. Today was a good day as I picked up another refugee mat.
Re-stock online - quick ! Unbelievable. With the seven, seven-eleven, seven-eleven Seven even back do' little Joe I picked up the cash flow Then we played bones, and I'm yellin' domino Plus nobody I know got killed in South Central L.A. Today was a good day as I picked up another refugee mat.
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Pipes
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Pipes on Oct 26, 2019 19:01:06 GMT 1, Documentary about the humanitarian crisis in Syria on channel 4 tonight - 9pm
http://instagram.com/p/B4FQpP9FHvD
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