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Banksy Grappling Hook, by moron on Mar 12, 2019 0:16:17 GMT 1, Maybe it would have done better at Sotheby's even with Sotheby's lower estimate? I think there could be collectors or investors who are put off by the subject matter of the crucifix seeing it as anti Israel, ergo anti semitic. It is political and it does have a very strong symbolic message attached. There is also the fact that when Banksy released this ltd edition. It received no press attention as compared to his stencils on walls. Who knows if collectors view walled off origin stuff by Banksy differently to his art in the streets of Europe and the US in a similar way that Hirst investors prefer his paintings to his pickled herrings and dead cats etc. If Banksy had made a few of these grappling hook crucifixes and chucked one over a church wall with a stencil of a choirboy using it to escape a bishop with a boner and sold a few in an edition i'm sure chuckles all round it would have flown high in a saleroom for massive amounts of money. Collectors can be very finicky and in a similar way that some Banksy fans framed his visit Historic Palestine print and hid the text under a mount for obvious reasons. Collectors investors would probably avoid bidding on this crucifix for similar reasons. Better luck next time. I don't get how this piece can be even close to labelled as antisemitic, if he just released it from a UK event.. that wouldn't even be a suggestion. I agree. I see it as a statement about the wall and the plight of the Bethlehem Palestinian Christians.
Maybe it would have done better at Sotheby's even with Sotheby's lower estimate? I think there could be collectors or investors who are put off by the subject matter of the crucifix seeing it as anti Israel, ergo anti semitic. It is political and it does have a very strong symbolic message attached. There is also the fact that when Banksy released this ltd edition. It received no press attention as compared to his stencils on walls. Who knows if collectors view walled off origin stuff by Banksy differently to his art in the streets of Europe and the US in a similar way that Hirst investors prefer his paintings to his pickled herrings and dead cats etc. If Banksy had made a few of these grappling hook crucifixes and chucked one over a church wall with a stencil of a choirboy using it to escape a bishop with a boner and sold a few in an edition i'm sure chuckles all round it would have flown high in a saleroom for massive amounts of money. Collectors can be very finicky and in a similar way that some Banksy fans framed his visit Historic Palestine print and hid the text under a mount for obvious reasons. Collectors investors would probably avoid bidding on this crucifix for similar reasons. Better luck next time. I don't get how this piece can be even close to labelled as antisemitic, if he just released it from a UK event.. that wouldn't even be a suggestion. I agree. I see it as a statement about the wall and the plight of the Bethlehem Palestinian Christians.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by moron on Mar 21, 2019 22:48:48 GMT 1, Buyers premium is a joke.
www.bonhams.com/how_to_buy/16362/
For example : "25% of the hammer price of amounts in excess of ยฃ2,500 up to and including ยฃ300,000"
It's not as if they put a hundred times more work into selling something for 250K as opposed to 2.5K
Buyers premium is a joke. www.bonhams.com/how_to_buy/16362/For example : "25% of the hammer price of amounts in excess of ยฃ2,500 up to and including ยฃ300,000" It's not as if they put a hundred times more work into selling something for 250K as opposed to 2.5K
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by .dappy on Jul 16, 2019 21:05:51 GMT 1, A controversial piece of art by the infamous Banksy which sold at auction for more than ยฃ83,000 is now on display at Ely Cathedral.
The large piece, which depicts Jesus Christ on a metal grappling hook, can be seen inside a glass container thanks to an anonymous art collector.
Aptly named The Grappling Hook (2017), the unique piece - signed by the mystery street artist Banksy - can be viewed from now until the end of September.
Arguably one of Banksy's most iconic pieces, it is said to highlight the struggles surrounding the West Bank and the division of the two most holy cities in Christianity.
Banksy himself describes The Grappling Hook - which was bought at a London auction for ยฃ83,306 - as a "military grade grappling hook and combined spiritual ornament".
Being displayed in Ely Cathedral may raise a few eyebrows in the city, however Dean of Ely Mark Bonney has said that the cathedral is a "wonderful backdrop" for the piece.
He said: "Obviously there are strong statements associated with many of Bansky's works, and we hope many will come to see this piece and draw their own interpretation and meaning from it.
"We are not displaying it to create any political statement, although it is borne out of very troubled political situation - but we cannot either escape the fact that Jesus' crucifixion had a very strong political element to it too.
"I think this work will create a particular presence and challenge in a building devoted to the Christian faith. The cathedral provides a wonderful backdrop for art and sculpture."
The Grappling Hook was dropped off by the specialist collector who bought the piece for ยฃ83,000; he told the cathedral he wishes to remain anonymous.
When it was sold to the collector in March this year, it marked the first time Banksy had put his work up for sale since 2013 when he set up a pop up shop in New York,
Visitors can now view the artwork which is attached to a large four metre long knotted rope in a glass container on top of its original hand-made custom box.
The piece, described by Bonhams auctions as "arresting, humorous and polemic", is on a temporary loan to the cathedral from the owner for the summer months.
For more information about the piece and how you can see it for yourself, visit: www.elycathedral.org
A controversial piece of art by the infamous Banksy which sold at auction for more than ยฃ83,000 is now on display at Ely Cathedral. The large piece, which depicts Jesus Christ on a metal grappling hook, can be seen inside a glass container thanks to an anonymous art collector. Aptly named The Grappling Hook (2017), the unique piece - signed by the mystery street artist Banksy - can be viewed from now until the end of September. Arguably one of Banksy's most iconic pieces, it is said to highlight the struggles surrounding the West Bank and the division of the two most holy cities in Christianity. Banksy himself describes The Grappling Hook - which was bought at a London auction for ยฃ83,306 - as a "military grade grappling hook and combined spiritual ornament". Being displayed in Ely Cathedral may raise a few eyebrows in the city, however Dean of Ely Mark Bonney has said that the cathedral is a "wonderful backdrop" for the piece. He said: "Obviously there are strong statements associated with many of Bansky's works, and we hope many will come to see this piece and draw their own interpretation and meaning from it. "We are not displaying it to create any political statement, although it is borne out of very troubled political situation - but we cannot either escape the fact that Jesus' crucifixion had a very strong political element to it too. "I think this work will create a particular presence and challenge in a building devoted to the Christian faith. The cathedral provides a wonderful backdrop for art and sculpture." The Grappling Hook was dropped off by the specialist collector who bought the piece for ยฃ83,000; he told the cathedral he wishes to remain anonymous. When it was sold to the collector in March this year, it marked the first time Banksy had put his work up for sale since 2013 when he set up a pop up shop in New York, Visitors can now view the artwork which is attached to a large four metre long knotted rope in a glass container on top of its original hand-made custom box. The piece, described by Bonhams auctions as "arresting, humorous and polemic", is on a temporary loan to the cathedral from the owner for the summer months. For more information about the piece and how you can see it for yourself, visit: www.elycathedral.org
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Charlesworth on Jul 16, 2019 21:11:34 GMT 1, I like the idea of it being displayed in a cathedral, itโs only 30 mins from my parents house (where Iโm currently staying) might go check it out
I like the idea of it being displayed in a cathedral, itโs only 30 mins from my parents house (where Iโm currently staying) might go check it out
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Gunny on Jul 16, 2019 21:21:01 GMT 1, This is the press release from the Cathedral.....
Banksy gets his hook into Ely Cathedral
An extraordinary art work by the renowned street artist, Banksy, will be on temporary display in Ely Cathedral during the summer months.
The Grappling Hook (2017) is an original piece signed by the artist, and is presented in the form of a large crucifix with 3 steel grapples and over 4 metre length of knotted rope.
The โGrappling Hookโ is widely acknowledged as one of the most iconic pieces to emerge from Banksyโs Walled Off Hotel in Bethlehem and is known to have been created as a powerful statement highlighting the struggles surrounding the West Bank and the division of the two most holy cities in Christianity.
Banksy refers to the piece as a โmilitary grade grappling hook and combined spiritual ornamentโ. As well as the Grappling Hook, the specially created hand sprayed box will also be on display. It has been described as arresting, moving and polemic and ranks alongside the artistโs most significant works.
As controversial as it may seem for a Cathedral to be displaying such work, Mark Bonney, Dean of Ely commented โ โThe Cathedral provides a wonderful backdrop for art and sculpture. Obviously there are strong statements associated with many of Banskyโs works, and we hope many will come to see this piece and draw their own interpretation and meaning from it. We are not displaying it to create any political statement, although it is borne out of very troubled political situation โ but we cannot either escape the fact that Jesusโ crucifixion had a very strong political element to it too. I think this work will create a particular presence and challenge in a building devoted to the Christian faithโ.
The Grappling Hook has been kindly loaned to the Cathedral by a specialist collector who wishes to remain anonymous and will be in situ from mid July until the end of September. Please visit the website for further details โ www.elycathedral.org.
Press release from Ely Cathedral
This is the press release from the Cathedral..... Banksy gets his hook into Ely Cathedral An extraordinary art work by the renowned street artist, Banksy, will be on temporary display in Ely Cathedral during the summer months. The Grappling Hook (2017) is an original piece signed by the artist, and is presented in the form of a large crucifix with 3 steel grapples and over 4 metre length of knotted rope. The โGrappling Hookโ is widely acknowledged as one of the most iconic pieces to emerge from Banksyโs Walled Off Hotel in Bethlehem and is known to have been created as a powerful statement highlighting the struggles surrounding the West Bank and the division of the two most holy cities in Christianity. Banksy refers to the piece as a โmilitary grade grappling hook and combined spiritual ornamentโ. As well as the Grappling Hook, the specially created hand sprayed box will also be on display. It has been described as arresting, moving and polemic and ranks alongside the artistโs most significant works. As controversial as it may seem for a Cathedral to be displaying such work, Mark Bonney, Dean of Ely commented โ โThe Cathedral provides a wonderful backdrop for art and sculpture. Obviously there are strong statements associated with many of Banskyโs works, and we hope many will come to see this piece and draw their own interpretation and meaning from it. We are not displaying it to create any political statement, although it is borne out of very troubled political situation โ but we cannot either escape the fact that Jesusโ crucifixion had a very strong political element to it too. I think this work will create a particular presence and challenge in a building devoted to the Christian faithโ. The Grappling Hook has been kindly loaned to the Cathedral by a specialist collector who wishes to remain anonymous and will be in situ from mid July until the end of September. Please visit the website for further details โ www.elycathedral.org. Press release from Ely Cathedral
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by eyectopus on Jul 16, 2019 21:23:10 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing. It looks excellent in the case like that. The way it's displayed shows off each part of the work really well. The cathedral is a great place for it.
Thanks for sharing. It looks excellent in the case like that. The way it's displayed shows off each part of the work really well. The cathedral is a great place for it.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by blerd on Jul 16, 2019 21:26:19 GMT 1, Hands down the best I've seen it displayed. Isn't the meaning behind this actually anti organised religion though?
Hands down the best I've seen it displayed. Isn't the meaning behind this actually anti organised religion though?
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Jul 16, 2019 21:27:23 GMT 1, Whatโs that black box? Is that where they lock up priests when they start having thoughts of young boys?
Whatโs that black box? Is that where they lock up priests when they start having thoughts of young boys?
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by 19818914 on Jul 16, 2019 21:27:39 GMT 1, This piece was such a fucking steal.
This piece was such a fucking steal.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Unica on Jul 16, 2019 21:45:56 GMT 1, People seem to prefer the box than the actual hook, one of these pieces in the edition of 25 did not do well at the Bonhams auction earlier this year if I recall, failed to sell with a low reserve. It was well advertised the auctioneer desperately tried to get bids, yet no one seemed to want it. Some pundits on here said it would fetch ยฃ250k, didn't get a quarter before it was passed.
People seem to prefer the box than the actual hook, one of these pieces in the edition of 25 did not do well at the Bonhams auction earlier this year if I recall, failed to sell with a low reserve. It was well advertised the auctioneer desperately tried to get bids, yet no one seemed to want it. Some pundits on here said it would fetch ยฃ250k, didn't get a quarter before it was passed.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by lv90210 on Jul 16, 2019 23:29:37 GMT 1, Now thatโs a piece of art.
Now thatโs a piece of art.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by nex on Jul 16, 2019 23:36:24 GMT 1, People seem to prefer the box than the actual hook, one of these pieces in the edition of 25 did not do well at the Bonhams auction earlier this year if I recall, failed to sell with a low reserve. It was well advertised the auctioneer desperately tried to get bids, yet no one seemed to want it. Some pundits on here said it would fetch ยฃ250k, didn't get a quarter before it was passed.
Whilst your correct it was passed in, it did actually sell afterwards (for more than a quarter btw) so not quite as dark a picture as you paint and Bonhams has never been a great place for good banksy results
Iโd humbly suggest Sothebyโs will be a much better test bed for this piece, although it does feel a little soon after that last result.
I guess weโll see
And itโs an edition of 26
People seem to prefer the box than the actual hook, one of these pieces in the edition of 25 did not do well at the Bonhams auction earlier this year if I recall, failed to sell with a low reserve. It was well advertised the auctioneer desperately tried to get bids, yet no one seemed to want it. Some pundits on here said it would fetch ยฃ250k, didn't get a quarter before it was passed. Whilst your correct it was passed in, it did actually sell afterwards (for more than a quarter btw) so not quite as dark a picture as you paint and Bonhams has never been a great place for good banksy results Iโd humbly suggest Sothebyโs will be a much better test bed for this piece, although it does feel a little soon after that last result. I guess weโll see And itโs an edition of 26
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by 19818914 on Jul 16, 2019 23:37:30 GMT 1, I ainโt even gonna lie. I hope it does horribly. I see a grappling hook in my future.
I ainโt even gonna lie. I hope it does horribly. I see a grappling hook in my future.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Dahmer on Jul 17, 2019 1:51:23 GMT 1, hands down to ely cathedral for displaying this...
looks incredible
hands down to ely cathedral for displaying this...
looks incredible
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by 19818914 on Jul 17, 2019 2:31:29 GMT 1, I wonder if the Cathedral has a gift shop?
Yup. They have a stack of Jesus with Shopping Bags variants.
I wonder if the Cathedral has a gift shop? Yup. They have a stack of Jesus with Shopping Bags variants.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Fast Eddie on Jul 17, 2019 3:53:24 GMT 1, A cathedral. Great placement for this piece. Better than a museum.
A cathedral. Great placement for this piece. Better than a museum.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Fast Eddie on Jul 17, 2019 3:59:52 GMT 1, Holy cow, if you do not know it, check it out. It is a truly magnificent church.
Holy cow, if you do not know it, check it out. It is a truly magnificent church.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Adam The Collector on Jul 17, 2019 6:28:43 GMT 1, No idea its size until seeing this image had imagined it was quite a bit smaller.
No idea its size until seeing this image had imagined it was quite a bit smaller.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Carl Cashman on Jul 17, 2019 7:08:26 GMT 1, Holy cow, if you do not know it, check it out. It is a truly magnificent church. We go there every year for the xmas service, cant wait to see it next time we are there.
Holy cow, if you do not know it, check it out. It is a truly magnificent church. We go there every year for the xmas service, cant wait to see it next time we are there.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by crashwilliams on Jul 17, 2019 8:44:39 GMT 1, Wow - as others have said, that's stunning 'framing' job - right, where's Ely in relation to SE London...
Wow - as others have said, that's stunning 'framing' job - right, where's Ely in relation to SE London...
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Gunny on Jul 17, 2019 9:21:18 GMT 1, Just saw it today and it's located as you 'Exit Through The Gift Shop' Genius!
It looks amazing and there is a little write up on an electronic display next to the display cabinet. There is also a visitors book there so you can leave a comment. For anyone who wants to go, it is open from 7am until 6.30pm and until 5.30 on a Sunday.
Just saw it today and it's located as you 'Exit Through The Gift Shop' Genius!
It looks amazing and there is a little write up on an electronic display next to the display cabinet. There is also a visitors book there so you can leave a comment. For anyone who wants to go, it is open from 7am until 6.30pm and until 5.30 on a Sunday.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Balboa on Jul 17, 2019 11:10:45 GMT 1, I live fifteen minutes away from Ely cathedral. I wonder if they want to display my Toxic Mary?
I live fifteen minutes away from Ely cathedral. I wonder if they want to display my Toxic Mary?
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Daniel Silk on Jul 17, 2019 11:25:38 GMT 1,
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Unica on Jul 17, 2019 11:35:46 GMT 1, Well it's going to be interesting to see if this can muster more interest than the last auction and if all the people that pointed the finger and blamed Bonhams for not being the right auction house to sell Banksy at are correct. I personally would rather get a killer print, like a Kate Moss or Nola Coloured AP for less money and much easier to display. We shall see, the one in the church is well displayed, not sure how many people would have that set up in their house but I'm sure many would like it.
Well it's going to be interesting to see if this can muster more interest than the last auction and if all the people that pointed the finger and blamed Bonhams for not being the right auction house to sell Banksy at are correct. I personally would rather get a killer print, like a Kate Moss or Nola Coloured AP for less money and much easier to display. We shall see, the one in the church is well displayed, not sure how many people would have that set up in their house but I'm sure many would like it.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by nex on Jul 17, 2019 12:06:15 GMT 1, Well it's going to be interesting to see if this can muster more interest than the last auction and if all the people that pointed the finger and blamed Bonhams for not being the right auction house to sell Banksy at are correct. I personally would rather get a killer print, like a Kate Moss or Nola Coloured AP for less money and much easier to display. We shall see, the one in the church is well displayed, not sure how many people would have that set up in their house but I'm sure many would like it.
Absolutely no axe to grind with with Bonhams, factually, Iโm sure itโs accepted banksys donโt do that well there.
Totally valid critique that this piece isnโt easy to display, but then again this by its nature it is quite different...
Well it's going to be interesting to see if this can muster more interest than the last auction and if all the people that pointed the finger and blamed Bonhams for not being the right auction house to sell Banksy at are correct. I personally would rather get a killer print, like a Kate Moss or Nola Coloured AP for less money and much easier to display. We shall see, the one in the church is well displayed, not sure how many people would have that set up in their house but I'm sure many would like it. Absolutely no axe to grind with with Bonhams, factually, Iโm sure itโs accepted banksys donโt do that well there. Totally valid critique that this piece isnโt easy to display, but then again this by its nature it is quite different...
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 12:25:50 GMT 1, I live fifteen minutes away from Ely cathedral. I wonder if they want to display my Toxic Mary?
Ask them. I'd absolutely love to hear their reply
I live fifteen minutes away from Ely cathedral. I wonder if they want to display my Toxic Mary? Ask them. I'd absolutely love to hear their reply
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Carl Cashman on Jul 17, 2019 12:28:55 GMT 1, Well it's going to be interesting to see if this can muster more interest than the last auction and if all the people that pointed the finger and blamed Bonhams for not being the right auction house to sell Banksy at are correct. I personally would rather get a killer print, like a Kate Moss or Nola Coloured AP for less money and much easier to display. We shall see, the one in the church is well displayed, not sure how many people would have that set up in their house but I'm sure many would like it. I doubt the GWB would have got over 1mil at bonhams... completely different crowd. I think there hook sale will look like a bargain after sotheby's.
Well it's going to be interesting to see if this can muster more interest than the last auction and if all the people that pointed the finger and blamed Bonhams for not being the right auction house to sell Banksy at are correct. I personally would rather get a killer print, like a Kate Moss or Nola Coloured AP for less money and much easier to display. We shall see, the one in the church is well displayed, not sure how many people would have that set up in their house but I'm sure many would like it. I doubt the GWB would have got over 1mil at bonhams... completely different crowd. I think there hook sale will look like a bargain after sotheby's.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Unica on Jul 17, 2019 12:35:11 GMT 1, Well it's going to be interesting to see if this can muster more interest than the last auction and if all the people that pointed the finger and blamed Bonhams for not being the right auction house to sell Banksy at are correct. I personally would rather get a killer print, like a Kate Moss or Nola Coloured AP for less money and much easier to display. We shall see, the one in the church is well displayed, not sure how many people would have that set up in their house but I'm sure many would like it. I doubt the Girl With Balloon would have got over 1mil at bonhams... completely different crowd. I think there hook sale will look like a bargain after sotheby's. It will be interesting to see I hope it does well for the sellers sake, but it was a massive failure last time round, especially with all the lofty predictions of it selling for over ยฃ200k and the auctioneer painfully pulling bids from the chandeliers and finally passing it after what seemed an agonizingly long time.
Hopefully all can be redeemed and we can point the finger at Bonhams and firmly believe that we buy Banksy from Bonhams and not sell through them.
Well it's going to be interesting to see if this can muster more interest than the last auction and if all the people that pointed the finger and blamed Bonhams for not being the right auction house to sell Banksy at are correct. I personally would rather get a killer print, like a Kate Moss or Nola Coloured AP for less money and much easier to display. We shall see, the one in the church is well displayed, not sure how many people would have that set up in their house but I'm sure many would like it. I doubt the Girl With Balloon would have got over 1mil at bonhams... completely different crowd. I think there hook sale will look like a bargain after sotheby's. It will be interesting to see I hope it does well for the sellers sake, but it was a massive failure last time round, especially with all the lofty predictions of it selling for over ยฃ200k and the auctioneer painfully pulling bids from the chandeliers and finally passing it after what seemed an agonizingly long time. Hopefully all can be redeemed and we can point the finger at Bonhams and firmly believe that we buy Banksy from Bonhams and not sell through them.
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