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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by pollz66 on May 13, 2021 11:18:16 GMT 1, www.masterworks.io/research/post/O0p5MYsza0Y6YcC2Pu6jb
This is from Feburary this year. I'm wondering if this investment company had wished they'd held on a bit longer before selling their large Banksy spray canvas for $1.5m.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Deleted on May 13, 2021 11:58:11 GMT 1, Tremendous result for the artist and the auction house. Really is all about the image now...
All prints including the iconic ones have shown signs of weakness.
Iβd presume the big hitters prefer anything on canvas to prints and itβs beginning to show. You would think the gap will widen more and more over time.
Tremendous result for the artist and the auction house. Really is all about the image now... All prints including the iconic ones have shown signs of weakness. Iβd presume the big hitters prefer anything on canvas to prints and itβs beginning to show. You would think the gap will widen more and more over time. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by tab1 on May 13, 2021 12:05:08 GMT 1,
The market is not guaranteed to increase continually, especially with the state of the pandemic effecting all investment markets.
Look at the silence here when a few prints did not excel at auction as expected.
Buying in at todayβs levels is a risk , if purchased a decade ago you can afford to sit tight
32% is a good return,when holding out for the max return in investment markets is when you will get burned
The market is not guaranteed to increase continually, especially with the state of the pandemic effecting all investment markets. Look at the silence here when a few prints did not excel at auction as expected. Buying in at todayβs levels is a risk , if purchased a decade ago you can afford to sit tight 32% is a good return,when holding out for the max return in investment markets is when you will get burned |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Georgie Poppit on May 13, 2021 12:47:19 GMT 1, Would be a different matter if it was on canvas. I think they misjudged what people would spend on a work on board.
Would be a different matter if it was on canvas. I think they misjudged what people would spend on a work on board.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by toshspice on May 13, 2021 16:42:00 GMT 1, Would be a different matter if it was on canvas. I think they misjudged what people would spend on a work on board.
Condition is pretty poor. It looks like it was pulled from a wall.
Would be a different matter if it was on canvas. I think they misjudged what people would spend on a work on board. Condition is pretty poor. It looks like it was pulled from a wall. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Charlie Bronson on May 13, 2021 17:18:11 GMT 1, Auctions are always tricky imho. Bidding wars often take on the role of whoβs got the bigger stick, or, βfuck that guy Iβm not going to let him outbid meβ as opposed to the true value of the piece.
Iβve been to no less than 100 high end car auctions and Iβve seen it happen dozens of times, right in front of me. Watching people bid WAY over the real value of a car because they donβt want to take the ego hit. Not saying thatβs what definitely happened here, but one would think that itβs a possibility due to the simple fact that comparatively, this piece was well over paid for. Then again, wtf do I knowπ€·π»ββοΈ.
Auctions are always tricky imho. Bidding wars often take on the role of whoβs got the bigger stick, or, βfuck that guy Iβm not going to let him outbid meβ as opposed to the true value of the piece.
Iβve been to no less than 100 high end car auctions and Iβve seen it happen dozens of times, right in front of me. Watching people bid WAY over the real value of a car because they donβt want to take the ego hit. Not saying thatβs what definitely happened here, but one would think that itβs a possibility due to the simple fact that comparatively, this piece was well over paid for. Then again, wtf do I knowπ€·π»ββοΈ.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Winchester on May 13, 2021 17:18:56 GMT 1, Would be a different matter if it was on canvas. I think they misjudged what people would spend on a work on board. Condition is pretty poor. It looks like it was pulled from a wall.Β
If it was pulled from a wall there wouldn't be a pest control coa. Or would there?...
Would be a different matter if it was on canvas. I think they misjudged what people would spend on a work on board. Condition is pretty poor. It looks like it was pulled from a wall.Β If it was pulled from a wall there wouldn't be a pest control coa. Or would there?... |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Georgie Poppit on May 13, 2021 17:53:12 GMT 1, Was it an edition that sold? There were 15 of these 90x90cm canvases of LITA produced, all slightly different. This was one of them.
Was it an edition that sold? There were 15 of these 90x90cm canvases of LITA produced, all slightly different. This was one of them. If this was an edition it really needs to be stated. Anyone know for sure? |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Charlie Bronson on May 13, 2021 19:14:21 GMT 1, There were 15 of these 90x90cm canvases of LITA produced, all slightly different. This was one of them. If this was an edition it really needs to be stated. Anyone know for sure?
It was. Each had a slight difference. The edition of 15 had then in white matte, white gloss and hessian backgrounds.
There were 15 of these 90x90cm canvases of LITA produced, all slightly different. This was one of them. If this was an edition it really needs to be stated. Anyone know for sure? It was. Each had a slight difference. The edition of 15 had then in white matte, white gloss and hessian backgrounds. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Winchester on May 13, 2021 19:44:15 GMT 1, If this was an edition it really needs to be stated. Anyone know for sure? It was. Each had a slight difference. The edition of 15 had then in white matte, white gloss and hessian backgrounds.
I still disagree as it would have been stated in the info of the auction.
If this was an edition it really needs to be stated. Anyone know for sure? It was. Each had a slight difference. The edition of 15 had then in white matte, white gloss and hessian backgrounds. I still disagree as it would have been stated in the info of the auction. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Deleted on May 13, 2021 20:56:45 GMT 1, Tremendous result for the artist and the auction house. Really is all about the image now... All prints including the iconic ones have shown signs of weakness. Iβd presume the big hitters prefer anything on canvas to prints and itβs beginning to show. You would think the gap will widen more and more over time.
Tremendous result for the artist and the auction house. Really is all about the image now... All prints including the iconic ones have shown signs of weakness. Iβd presume the big hitters prefer anything on canvas to prints and itβs beginning to show. You would think the gap will widen more and more over time. I think the passing of the signed GWB at Sothebyβs reiterates my point. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Jeezuz Jones Snr on May 13, 2021 22:32:21 GMT 1, This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc..
This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc..
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Winchester on May 13, 2021 22:38:33 GMT 1, This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc..
The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound.
Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately.
This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc.. The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by theclash on May 13, 2021 22:41:20 GMT 1, This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc.. The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately.
At least the insurance is cheaper
This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc.. The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately. At least the insurance is cheaper |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Terry Fuckwitt on May 13, 2021 22:52:33 GMT 1, This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc.. The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately.
When and where did an unsigned GWRB sell for over Β£1 million?π€
This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc.. The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately. When and where did an unsigned GWRB sell for over Β£1 million?π€ |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Jeezuz Jones Snr on May 13, 2021 22:58:13 GMT 1, This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc.. The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately.
Yes perhaps the owners of that unsigned were drinking heavily whilst bidding πΎπΎπ€¦.
There's just been so many bansky auctions of late also. Selling a Β£400 pound banksy print now is life changing for some which is great.
It's been discussed a lot on here that the covid spending on assets has to slow down at some stage and all markets will correct. So your probably correct and I agree the unsigned prints would drop in price more than the signed. Although some lower editions won't drop at all. Always been supply and demand with Banksy.
This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc.. The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately. Yes perhaps the owners of that unsigned were drinking heavily whilst bidding πΎπΎπ€¦. There's just been so many bansky auctions of late also. Selling a Β£400 pound banksy print now is life changing for some which is great. It's been discussed a lot on here that the covid spending on assets has to slow down at some stage and all markets will correct. So your probably correct and I agree the unsigned prints would drop in price more than the signed. Although some lower editions won't drop at all. Always been supply and demand with Banksy. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by LJCal on May 13, 2021 23:29:29 GMT 1, The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately. Yes perhaps the owners of that unsigned were drinking heavily whilst bidding πΎπΎπ€¦. There's just been so many bansky auctions of late also. Selling a Β£400 pound banksy print now is life changing for some which is great. It's been discussed a lot on here that the covid spending on assets has to slow down at some stage and all markets will correct. So your probably correct and I agree the unsigned prints would drop in price more than the signed. Although some lower editions won't drop at all. Always been supply and demand with Banksy.
The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately. Yes perhaps the owners of that unsigned were drinking heavily whilst bidding πΎπΎπ€¦. There's just been so many bansky auctions of late also. Selling a Β£400 pound banksy print now is life changing for some which is great. It's been discussed a lot on here that the covid spending on assets has to slow down at some stage and all markets will correct. So your probably correct and I agree the unsigned prints would drop in price more than the signed. Although some lower editions won't drop at all. Always been supply and demand with Banksy. The spending has barely begun, very soon we are going to see the biggest boom for over 90 years and asset prices will go through the roof, we are probably two years away from the pent up demand (and savings) running out of steam. What's happened in the Banksy print market is merely a speculative bubble bursting, pretty much all other blue chip artists are enjoying strong growth in their prints and originals market. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Jeezuz Jones Snr on May 14, 2021 1:26:02 GMT 1, Yes perhaps the owners of that unsigned were drinking heavily whilst bidding πΎπΎπ€¦. There's just been so many bansky auctions of late also. Selling a Β£400 pound banksy print now is life changing for some which is great. It's been discussed a lot on here that the covid spending on assets has to slow down at some stage and all markets will correct. So your probably correct and I agree the unsigned prints would drop in price more than the signed. Although some lower editions won't drop at all. Always been supply and demand with Banksy. The spending has barely begun, very soon we are going to see the biggest boom for over 90 years and asset prices will go through the roof, we are probably two years away from the pent up demand (and savings) running out of steam. What's happened in the Banksy print market is merely a speculative bubble bursting, pretty much all other blue chip artists are enjoying strong growth in their prints and originals market.
I kind of agree with 'derivitive's' post below, although I don't think massive crash, more of an easing down. All these mega rich will start up spending big on things like they did in normal times ie. luxury holidays etc.. we'll have to see how it pans out.
Yes perhaps the owners of that unsigned were drinking heavily whilst bidding πΎπΎπ€¦. There's just been so many bansky auctions of late also. Selling a Β£400 pound banksy print now is life changing for some which is great. It's been discussed a lot on here that the covid spending on assets has to slow down at some stage and all markets will correct. So your probably correct and I agree the unsigned prints would drop in price more than the signed. Although some lower editions won't drop at all. Always been supply and demand with Banksy. The spending has barely begun, very soon we are going to see the biggest boom for over 90 years and asset prices will go through the roof, we are probably two years away from the pent up demand (and savings) running out of steam. What's happened in the Banksy print market is merely a speculative bubble bursting, pretty much all other blue chip artists are enjoying strong growth in their prints and originals market. I kind of agree with 'derivitive's' post below, although I don't think massive crash, more of an easing down. All these mega rich will start up spending big on things like they did in normal times ie. luxury holidays etc.. we'll have to see how it pans out. |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Jeezuz Jones Snr on May 14, 2021 1:47:25 GMT 1, I kind of agree with 'derivitive's' post below, although I don't think massive crash, more of an easing down. All these mega rich will start up spending big on things like they did in normal times ie. luxury holidays etc.. we'll have to see how it pans out. The mega rich are going after originals and don't need to sell anything to pay for trips. Everyone that has been going after various prints, collectibles, stocks, and crypto as "investments" will want an out and a profit since they are just moving money around from one thing to another.
Yes it's a different world to you and I. Back in the normal world and talking of inflation, it's happening here in australia.. my wife came back from grocery shopping yesterday and said tomotoes were $10/kilo. I said 'fucking what, I hope you bought tinned?'π₯π¬ she hadn't bought any ππ
I kind of agree with 'derivitive's' post below, although I don't think massive crash, more of an easing down. All these mega rich will start up spending big on things like they did in normal times ie. luxury holidays etc.. we'll have to see how it pans out. The mega rich are going after originals and don't need to sell anything to pay for trips. Everyone that has been going after various prints, collectibles, stocks, and crypto as "investments" will want an out and a profit since they are just moving money around from one thing to another. Yes it's a different world to you and I. Back in the normal world and talking of inflation, it's happening here in australia.. my wife came back from grocery shopping yesterday and said tomotoes were $10/kilo. I said 'fucking what, I hope you bought tinned?'π₯π¬ she hadn't bought any ππ |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Pipes on May 14, 2021 4:13:34 GMT 1, This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc.. The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately.
Buy the dip ! πππ
This is a huge amount of money, you look at the artists in that auction and I would never have thought Banksy's originals would be more expensive than the Haring or Hockney etc.. The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately. Buy the dip ! πππ |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by My Name is Frank on May 14, 2021 7:54:22 GMT 1, The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately. Buy the dip ! πππ 
The SIGNED girl with Balloon print was passed as it didn't reach its estimate of 400k Dollar - not long ago an unsigned girl with Balloon print went for over 1 million pound. Im sorry to say but sadly for me it looks like his market did go down massive lately. Buy the dip ! πππ To the moon, someone have a word with Elon, tell him to tweet about his new flag print he just bought |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by theclash on May 14, 2021 9:52:58 GMT 1, Buy the dip ! πππ To the moon, someone have a word with Elon, tell him to tweet about his new flag print he just bought
Elon is more interested in Dogs it seems so would be Choose your Weapon
Buy the dip ! πππ To the moon, someone have a word with Elon, tell him to tweet about his new flag print he just bought Elon is more interested in Dogs it seems so would be Choose your Weapon |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by LJCal on May 14, 2021 18:29:09 GMT 1, The spending has barely begun, very soon we are going to see the biggest boom for over 90 years and asset prices will go through the roof, we are probably two years away from the pent up demand (and savings) running out of steam. What's happened in the Banksy print market is merely a speculative bubble bursting, pretty much all other blue chip artists are enjoying strong growth in their prints and originals market. I'm still expecting a massive crash in everything between August and January. People need to pay for their Disney vacations and cruises they haven't been able to take for 18+months.
www.bankofengland.co.uk/bank-overground/2020/how-has-covid-affected-household-savings
The spending has barely begun, very soon we are going to see the biggest boom for over 90 years and asset prices will go through the roof, we are probably two years away from the pent up demand (and savings) running out of steam. What's happened in the Banksy print market is merely a speculative bubble bursting, pretty much all other blue chip artists are enjoying strong growth in their prints and originals market. I'm still expecting a massive crash in everything between August and January. People need to pay for their Disney vacations and cruises they haven't been able to take for 18+months. I think the data and research would disagree (see BofE research) less than 10% of people intend on spending their savings, a much larger number intend to invest hence why asset prices will rise in the next few years (what comes after is the worry). Inflation is a risk that could cut the party short however I personally think that once production picks up some of the supply side inflation will come under control. www.bankofengland.co.uk/bank-overground/2020/how-has-covid-affected-household-savings |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by silvermyn on Nov 8, 2021 12:50:54 GMT 1, I've owned most of the Trolleys prints over the years (excluding the PPs) but this is the Holy Grail for me.
www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2021/the-now-evening-auction/trolley-hunters
Can't quite stretch to the low estimate but if anyone feels the Christmas spirit come early, please, keep me in mind!
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Season of Mist on Nov 8, 2021 13:21:32 GMT 1, Wouah, thanks for sharing!!!
What would you say the price difference is between the Bethlehem and the colored would be now?
Banksyvalue has very little infos on it due to Bethlehem being so rare
Wouah, thanks for sharing!!!
What would you say the price difference is between the Bethlehem and the colored would be now?
Banksyvalue has very little infos on it due to Bethlehem being so rare
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by samfrost on Nov 8, 2021 13:48:32 GMT 1, Brad and Angie starting to sell more of their collection?
Brad and Angie starting to sell more of their collection?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Fuzzyduck121 on Nov 8, 2021 14:09:34 GMT 1, Think I would rather have the LIITA in the next lot
Are there really 15 of those and if so is it possibly worth 5M + ?
Think I would rather have the LIITA in the next lot
Are there really 15 of those and if so is it possibly worth 5M + ?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by My Name is Frank on Nov 8, 2021 15:46:58 GMT 1, Think I would rather have the Love is in The Air in the next lot Are there really 15 of those and if so is it possibly worth 5M + ?
Think I would rather have the Love is in The Air in the next lot Are there really 15 of those and if so is it possibly worth 5M + ? its lovely |
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Sotheby's Art Auctions β’ NEW YORK πΊπ², by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Nov 8, 2021 21:10:56 GMT 1, Brilliant piece and size,that's huge. Banksy the cheapskate using emulsion from B & Q! π π
Brilliant piece and size,that's huge. Banksy the cheapskate using emulsion from B & Q! π π
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