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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 14:33:06 GMT 1, My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at ยฃ35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong.
The gold was issued way before Dismaland. I know that for a fact.....
My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at ยฃ35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. The gold was issued way before Dismaland. I know that for a fact.....
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 14:42:45 GMT 1, Yup I'm with 11 on that around April last year!
Yup I'm with 11 on that around April last year!
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Hubble Bubble on Feb 12, 2016 14:47:20 GMT 1, My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at ยฃ35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong.
ยฃ3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play!
Keep it Real, indeed.
My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at ยฃ35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. ยฃ3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by toshspice on Feb 12, 2016 14:57:13 GMT 1, Are artist proofs supposed to be produced at the same time as the regular edition run? If produced 10 years after the original edition , is that not bad play ? Or even a few months after an edition has sold out. All artists can extend editions if a print is popular by labelling as an ap? If it was any other artist doing this , the discussion would be different . Happens all the time in the artworld. There's a famous story about a world-renowned artist who, on hearing a collector wanted to buy one of his sculptures for several million dollars long after the edition had sold out, popped another one out, declared it an AP and sold it at secondary market value.
Are artist proofs supposed to be produced at the same time as the regular edition run? If produced 10 years after the original edition , is that not bad play ? Or even a few months after an edition has sold out. All artists can extend editions if a print is popular by labelling as an ap? If it was any other artist doing this , the discussion would be different . Happens all the time in the artworld. There's a famous story about a world-renowned artist who, on hearing a collector wanted to buy one of his sculptures for several million dollars long after the edition had sold out, popped another one out, declared it an AP and sold it at secondary market value.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by kel on Feb 12, 2016 14:59:16 GMT 1, My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at ยฃ35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. ยฃ3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed.
That is insane when you look at it that way. I remember when getting a Banksy print was a good old bun fight or via the lottery (which was the only time I was lucky) .At those prices and the fact it is all selected customers you start to look at Banksy in a whole different light.
Anyway sorry to detract from the thread.
My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at ยฃ35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. ยฃ3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed.
That is insane when you look at it that way. I remember when getting a Banksy print was a good old bun fight or via the lottery (which was the only time I was lucky) .At those prices and the fact it is all selected customers you start to look at Banksy in a whole different light.
Anyway sorry to detract from the thread.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Coach on Feb 12, 2016 15:03:52 GMT 1, ยฃ3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. ย Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed.
That is insane when you look at it that way. I remember when getting a Banksy print was a good old bun fight or via the lottery (which was the only time I was lucky) .At those prices and the fact it is all selected customers you start to look at Banksy in a whole different light.
Anyway sorry to detract from the thread.
You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
ยฃ3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. ย Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed.
That is insane when you look at it that way. I remember when getting a Banksy print was a good old bun fight or via the lottery (which was the only time I was lucky) .At those prices and the fact it is all selected customers you start to look at Banksy in a whole different light.
Anyway sorry to detract from the thread.
You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 15:13:34 GMT 1, I have just found out the coa's are dated 2004
Laughable really.
I have just found out the coa's are dated 2004
Laughable really.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by kel on Feb 12, 2016 15:18:37 GMT 1,
That is insane when you look at it that way. I remember when getting a Banksy print was a good old bun fight or via the lottery (which was the only time I was lucky) .At those prices and the fact it is all selected customers you start to look at Banksy in a whole different light.
Anyway sorry to detract from the thread.
You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
That is insane when you look at it that way. I remember when getting a Banksy print was a good old bun fight or via the lottery (which was the only time I was lucky) .At those prices and the fact it is all selected customers you start to look at Banksy in a whole different light.
Anyway sorry to detract from the thread.
You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 15:19:19 GMT 1, My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at ยฃ35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. ยฃ3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. ย Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed.
That's just gwb, what about any others they may have done ;-)
My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at ยฃ35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. ยฃ3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. ย Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed. That's just gwb, what about any others they may have done ;-)
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by bone on Feb 12, 2016 15:20:52 GMT 1, Are artist proofs supposed to be produced at the same time as the regular edition run? If produced 10 years after the original edition , is that not bad play ? Or even a few months after an edition has sold out. All artists can extend editions if a print is popular by labelling as an ap? If it was any other artist doing this , the discussion would be different . I would love any of the GWB AP's, but I feel if it were a different artist people would see things like this differently. I'm guessing we would here the same old comments, "cash grab" "greed", etc. I don't think that is the case, but defiantly think he is treated differently, probably deservedly
Are artist proofs supposed to be produced at the same time as the regular edition run? If produced 10 years after the original edition , is that not bad play ? Or even a few months after an edition has sold out. All artists can extend editions if a print is popular by labelling as an ap? If it was any other artist doing this , the discussion would be different . I would love any of the GWB AP's, but I feel if it were a different artist people would see things like this differently. I'm guessing we would here the same old comments, "cash grab" "greed", etc. I don't think that is the case, but defiantly think he is treated differently, probably deservedly
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 15:26:08 GMT 1, Art is there to provoke a reaction so in that respect Banksy and Pow succeed 100%
Art is there to provoke a reaction so in that respect Banksy and Pow succeed 100%
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 15:29:53 GMT 1,
That is insane when you look at it that way. I remember when getting a Banksy print was a good old bun fight or via the lottery (which was the only time I was lucky) .At those prices and the fact it is all selected customers you start to look at Banksy in a whole different light.
Anyway sorry to detract from the thread.
I like to think of it as a transference of wealth. If, in these times of widespread hardship,ย some people are willing to spend ยฃ35,000 on a piece of paper to decorate their hallway with, then they probably shouldn't be in charge of that kind of money. Best that someone else has it.
And it is insane. But that's art. And life. And life is art. Or something like that.
ยฃ42k inc vat
That is insane when you look at it that way. I remember when getting a Banksy print was a good old bun fight or via the lottery (which was the only time I was lucky) .At those prices and the fact it is all selected customers you start to look at Banksy in a whole different light.
Anyway sorry to detract from the thread.
I like to think of it as a transference of wealth. If, in these times of widespread hardship,ย some people are willing to spend ยฃ35,000 on a piece of paper to decorate their hallway with, then they probably shouldn't be in charge of that kind of money. Best that someone else has it.
And it is insane. But that's art. And life. And life is art. Or something like that.
ยฃ42k inc vat
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Coach on Feb 12, 2016 15:34:29 GMT 1, You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards theย release ofย work whichย now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected butย the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards theย release ofย work whichย now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected butย the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by pokodogo on Feb 12, 2016 15:39:49 GMT 1, To save me searching is there any images of these anywhere .........
To save me searching is there any images of these anywhere .........
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mandelbrot on Feb 12, 2016 15:43:09 GMT 1, Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold!
Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold!
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 15:43:31 GMT 1,
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards theย release ofย work whichย now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected butย the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
Bristol museum too
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards theย release ofย work whichย now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected butย the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. Bristol museum too
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 15:44:38 GMT 1, Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold!
Send me ยฃ5k and il do one for you ;-)
Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold! Send me ยฃ5k and il do one for you ;-)
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mandelbrot on Feb 12, 2016 15:58:01 GMT 1, Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold! Send me ยฃ5k and il do one for you ;-) 5k for a photo of a print! You must think I was born yesterday..... OK.... what's your paypal?
Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold! Send me ยฃ5k and il do one for you ;-) 5k for a photo of a print! You must think I was born yesterday..... OK.... what's your paypal?
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 16:00:46 GMT 1, Lol
Lol
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Hubble Bubble on Feb 12, 2016 16:01:26 GMT 1, It's like the red, but gold. And not as good.
It's like the red, but gold. And not as good.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 16:03:58 GMT 1, Tartan is my fave!
Tartan is my fave!
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 12, 2016 16:05:36 GMT 1, Are artist proofs supposed to be produced at the same time as the regular edition run? If produced 10 years after the original edition , is that not bad play ? Or even a few months after an edition has sold out. All artists can extend editions if a print is popular by labelling as an ap? If it was any other artist doing this , the discussion would be different . I would love any of the GWB AP's, but I feel if it were a different artist people would see things like this differently. I'm guessing we would here the same old comments, "cash grab" "greed", etc. ย I don't think that is the case, but defiantly think he is treated differently, probably deservedlyย
Not so much the cash grab element , years after a edition has sold out some people paid a high price on the secondary market for the original editions and original aps as for the exclusivity / rare / scarce print , adding more would reflect in lower pricings for the previous buyers as more on the market and the new prints in better condition as the originals were so cheap that most did not keep them in pristine condition?
All good, but like most things filters down from the top , as he's top of this scene can see others doing the same
Are artist proofs supposed to be produced at the same time as the regular edition run? If produced 10 years after the original edition , is that not bad play ? Or even a few months after an edition has sold out. All artists can extend editions if a print is popular by labelling as an ap? If it was any other artist doing this , the discussion would be different . I would love any of the GWB AP's, but I feel if it were a different artist people would see things like this differently. I'm guessing we would here the same old comments, "cash grab" "greed", etc. ย I don't think that is the case, but defiantly think he is treated differently, probably deservedlyย Not so much the cash grab element , years after a edition has sold out some people paid a high price on the secondary market for the original editions and original aps as for the exclusivity / rare / scarce print , adding more would reflect in lower pricings for the previous buyers as more on the market and the new prints in better condition as the originals were so cheap that most did not keep them in pristine condition? All good, but like most things filters down from the top , as he's top of this scene can see others doing the same
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mandelbrot on Feb 12, 2016 16:05:40 GMT 1, I haven't seen the red either..... What's that one like then?
I haven't seen the red either..... What's that one like then?
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mandelbrot on Feb 12, 2016 16:10:18 GMT 1, That's not gold!
That's not gold!
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Quinnster on Feb 12, 2016 17:05:54 GMT 1, The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued.
The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 17:10:40 GMT 1, The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued.
Not the date the coa was signed but the date of the work, I am told, is 2004?
The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued. Not the date the coa was signed but the date of the work, I am told, is 2004?
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by rgc on Feb 12, 2016 17:53:14 GMT 1,
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards theย release ofย work whichย now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected butย the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
Modern day Robin Hood???
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards theย release ofย work whichย now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected butย the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. Modern day Robin Hood???
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by motor on Feb 12, 2016 18:02:20 GMT 1, I'm disappointed with these. Poor form and lazy. There are so many other images which could have been used. However well done to them for being able to sell these for all that money. That's another level.
I'm disappointed with these. Poor form and lazy. There are so many other images which could have been used. However well done to them for being able to sell these for all that money. That's another level.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 18:20:25 GMT 1,
I've seen those images before somewhere ;-)
I've seen those images before somewhere ;-)
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