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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Black Apple Art on Feb 12, 2016 18:21:50 GMT 1, I have just found out the coa's are dated 2004 Laughable really.
I have just found out the coa's are dated 2004 Laughable really. Regardless, IMO the microscopic quantities he now releases are unquantifiable compared to demand and what he could be doing. There's not another living artist anywhere close to his level of notoriety or demand that is exercising such restraint, not to mention giving back to such a degree with his exhibitions. |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Matt on Feb 12, 2016 19:33:23 GMT 1,
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
Remember how mental the CYW release was ? Imagine what it would be today !!
Also he could release blank pieces of paper, people would kill for them as long as it has COA...the image has nothing to do with it anymore, it's just the brand, so what is point of a putting out print
The shows keep on getting better, the outside art has people challenging their views and all of us writing pages on here...honestly no point in releasing a print to the public.
Also a lot of his prints look quite crap so it's good that he stopped. He was no good at it to start off with
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. I'm with Coach on this Remember how mental the CYW release was ? Imagine what it would be today !! Also he could release blank pieces of paper, people would kill for them as long as it has COA...the image has nothing to do with it anymore, it's just the brand, so what is point of a putting out print The shows keep on getting better, the outside art has people challenging their views and all of us writing pages on here...honestly no point in releasing a print to the public. Also a lot of his prints look quite crap so it's good that he stopped. He was no good at it to start off with |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by DrWhite on Feb 12, 2016 20:28:59 GMT 1, I've seen those images before somewhere ;-)
I got those same pics in an email shot from contemporary art trader - he had all 3 listed earlier this week iirc ?
I've seen those images before somewhere ;-) I got those same pics in an email shot from contemporary art trader - he had all 3 listed earlier this week iirc ? |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Quinnster on Feb 12, 2016 20:39:09 GMT 1, The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued. Not the date the coa was signed but the date of the work, I am told, is 2004?
Sorry was confused :-)
The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued. Not the date the coa was signed but the date of the work, I am told, is 2004? Sorry was confused :-) |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by kel on Feb 12, 2016 20:56:33 GMT 1, Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. I'm with Coach on this Remember how mental the CYW release was ? Imagine what it would be today !! Also he could release blank pieces of paper, people would kill for them as long as it has COA...the image has nothing to do with it anymore, it's just the brand, so what is point of a putting out print The shows keep on getting better, the outside art has people challenging their views and all of us writing pages on here...honestly no point in releasing a print to the public. Also a lot of his prints look quite crap so it's good that he stopped. He was no good at it to start off with
Unfortunately the older you get the memory starts to fade where as art on the walls will last on
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. I'm with Coach on this Remember how mental the CYW release was ? Imagine what it would be today !! Also he could release blank pieces of paper, people would kill for them as long as it has COA...the image has nothing to do with it anymore, it's just the brand, so what is point of a putting out print The shows keep on getting better, the outside art has people challenging their views and all of us writing pages on here...honestly no point in releasing a print to the public. Also a lot of his prints look quite crap so it's good that he stopped. He was no good at it to start off with Unfortunately the older you get the memory starts to fade where as art on the walls will last on |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 21:06:02 GMT 1, Would like to see a signature from one of these if anyone can pm me one?
Would like to see a signature from one of these if anyone can pm me one?
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 13, 2016 0:44:06 GMT 1, He should of done a full range of cyw colours for the balloons
He should of done a full range of cyw colours for the balloons
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by curiousgeorge on Feb 13, 2016 1:47:52 GMT 1, My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at £35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. £3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed. 
Then ploughing 2? million into Dismaland? Keeping it very real indeed..
Funny reading this and noticing that the owners are mostly swerving the thread. #ifyouknowyouknoworsomeothersuchbollocks…
My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at £35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. £3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed. Not forgetting to minus full production costs Then ploughing 2? million into Dismaland? Keeping it very real indeed.. Funny reading this and noticing that the owners are mostly swerving the thread. #ifyouknowyouknoworsomeothersuchbollocks… |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 13, 2016 2:13:31 GMT 1, £3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed. Not forgetting to minus full production costs Then ploughing 2? million into Dismaland? Keeping it very real indeed.. Funny reading this and noticing that the owners are mostly swerving the thread. #ifyouknowyouknoworsomeothersuchbollocks…
Lots of sources of income
Prints, posters , tshirts , booklets etc
Tickets
Funding / investors
Vip other unknown sales
Dismaland was a very well put together business as well as a great show .
£3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed. Not forgetting to minus full production costs Then ploughing 2? million into Dismaland? Keeping it very real indeed.. Funny reading this and noticing that the owners are mostly swerving the thread. #ifyouknowyouknoworsomeothersuchbollocks… Lots of sources of income Prints, posters , tshirts , booklets etc Tickets Funding / investors Vip other unknown sales Dismaland was a very well put together business as well as a great show . |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by naughtyshorty on Feb 13, 2016 5:31:37 GMT 1,
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
Great at ap pics btw, although anyone offering all of them for sale I think is probably bigging themselves up a little...!
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. Couldn't agree more coach. Just remember that the aps were sold at a discount to their true market value (and below even the prices for some signed gwb originals) and sold to people pow could trust. It's hardly Banksy profiteering. And the money was ploughed into stuff we could enjoy at subsidised rates. I'm pretty supportive of Banksy doing that. Nbg release was fun but cyw felt almost like a disaster. U could tell Banksy has been going off print releases for a while so it's clear that the strategy has changed. Great at ap pics btw, although anyone offering all of them for sale I think is probably bigging themselves up a little...! |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by naughtyshorty on Feb 13, 2016 5:33:08 GMT 1, I've seen a pink version, with no signature and not numbered, I've also seen a red one, with no signature and not numbered but with a black Banksy stamp.
I've seen a pink version, with no signature and not numbered, I've also seen a red one, with no signature and not numbered but with a black Banksy stamp. I'd respectfully suggest that all you have seen is a bunch of fakes.... |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by brookvale on Feb 13, 2016 8:31:00 GMT 1, I've seen a pink version, with no signature and not numbered, I've also seen a red one, with no signature and not numbered but with a black Banksy stamp. I'd respectfully suggest that all you have seen is a bunch of fakes....
I've seen a pink version, with no signature and not numbered, I've also seen a red one, with no signature and not numbered but with a black Banksy stamp. I'd respectfully suggest that all you have seen is a bunch of fakes.... Nope, the one with the black stamp has a coa. |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 8:50:58 GMT 1, A number of Banksy projects cost significant cash. You think Cans came cheap also? That money was fronted by him for ALL of the artists. I suspect they didn't sleep in the YMCA either. This is a another way for POW to fund large projects. The GWB are interesting. Back in the day the screens that were ran were incredible. Random one offs. Double sided prints. Hand finished Queen Vics. I have personally seen some crackers. All with COA. All purchased many moons ago for a monkey. I say fair play to POW. People still continue to make significant monetary gains from selling the more recent APs. So even 35k (if you have it) is often below market value. With the BANKSY market there is always someone looking to add something to their collection and pay significantly more that doesn't have access via Primary for whatever reason. Dumbo for example is now even a smaller run I believe that originally thought. Though I am not 100% on that one.
A number of Banksy projects cost significant cash. You think Cans came cheap also? That money was fronted by him for ALL of the artists. I suspect they didn't sleep in the YMCA either. This is a another way for POW to fund large projects. The GWB are interesting. Back in the day the screens that were ran were incredible. Random one offs. Double sided prints. Hand finished Queen Vics. I have personally seen some crackers. All with COA. All purchased many moons ago for a monkey. I say fair play to POW. People still continue to make significant monetary gains from selling the more recent APs. So even 35k (if you have it) is often below market value. With the BANKSY market there is always someone looking to add something to their collection and pay significantly more that doesn't have access via Primary for whatever reason. Dumbo for example is now even a smaller run I believe that originally thought. Though I am not 100% on that one.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by motor on Feb 13, 2016 11:03:04 GMT 1, They can do whatever they want.
Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that.
I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done.
However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea.
Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help.
I think Banksy and POW could do better there.
They can do whatever they want.
Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that.
I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done.
However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea.
Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help.
I think Banksy and POW could do better there.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 13, 2016 11:26:38 GMT 1, They can do whatever they want. Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that. I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done. However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea. Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help. I think Banksy and POW could do better there.
Spot on!!
They can do whatever they want. Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that. I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done. However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea. Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help. I think Banksy and POW could do better there. Spot on!! |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 13, 2016 12:13:11 GMT 1, They can do whatever they want. Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that. I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done. However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea. Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help. I think Banksy and POW could do better there.
A lot of people are probably unaware of that,so potentially there could be many more secret releases.
The only reason now to delay a coa is so not to effect the market , as they were sold at a premium so would not matter selling them the previous gifted prints were free.
The price they were set out was lower than market value but would there be that many high end collectors that would buy 88 prints at the top market value ?
The selling point still was the investment
Could re release the original prints like Sunday b editions with different coloured stamps to indicate a re run for everyone to have a chance to purchase Which seems similar to the new round of vip prints
Anyone have any pics of new prints?
They can do whatever they want. Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that. I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done. However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea. Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help. I think Banksy and POW could do better there. A lot of people are probably unaware of that,so potentially there could be many more secret releases. The only reason now to delay a coa is so not to effect the market , as they were sold at a premium so would not matter selling them the previous gifted prints were free. The price they were set out was lower than market value but would there be that many high end collectors that would buy 88 prints at the top market value ? The selling point still was the investment Could re release the original prints like Sunday b editions with different coloured stamps to indicate a re run for everyone to have a chance to purchase Which seems similar to the new round of vip prints Anyone have any pics of new prints? |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 13, 2016 12:21:08 GMT 1, From what started as a simple question has turned into a very informative thread, thanks for all the pm's. Some nice pics ;-) keep em coming!!
From what started as a simple question has turned into a very informative thread, thanks for all the pm's. Some nice pics ;-) keep em coming!!
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Ruggs on Feb 13, 2016 12:39:51 GMT 1, They can do whatever they want. Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that. I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done. However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea. Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help. I think Banksy and POW could do better there.
They can do whatever they want. Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that. I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done. However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea. Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help. I think Banksy and POW could do better there. Would love to see some pictures of those ultra rare gems, especially the Festival ed 17. Seen a fluorescent green CYW and a rather garish hand-sprayed Grannies recently. This has turned into a really informative thread. I've mentioned it on numerous occasions on the forum before but it would be great if Banksy and POW could publish a catalogue raisonné of all his works to date. |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Dr Plip on Feb 13, 2016 12:45:15 GMT 1, Sharing is caring. I think we'd all love to see some pictures of these tantalisingly mysterious new editions. Come on all you brave Banksy owners, what's the worst that can happen?
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.
Sharing is caring. I think we'd all love to see some pictures of these tantalisingly mysterious new editions. Come on all you brave Banksy owners, what's the worst that can happen?
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Dr Plip on Feb 13, 2016 12:46:29 GMT 1, All these new GWB editions and not one rainbow or glittery balloon...
All these new GWB editions and not one rainbow or glittery balloon...
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by slevin on Feb 13, 2016 14:48:59 GMT 1, All these new GWB editions and not one rainbow or glittery balloon...
Glitter is a sensitive subject.
All these new GWB editions and not one rainbow or glittery balloon... Glitter is a sensitive subject. |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 13, 2016 15:20:21 GMT 1, Lol I know he is a very dodgy fella :-D
Lol I know he is a very dodgy fella :-D
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by avec art on Feb 13, 2016 15:24:24 GMT 1, They've got to wait for the glitter to dry before posting them out anyway, apparently it's not working very well.
They've got to wait for the glitter to dry before posting them out anyway, apparently it's not working very well.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 13, 2016 18:04:50 GMT 1, Next will hear the ape glitter mask print was released to special vip list
Next will hear the ape glitter mask print was released to special vip list
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 13, 2016 18:08:12 GMT 1, They can do whatever they want. Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that. I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done. However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea. Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help. I think Banksy and POW could do better there. Would love to see some pictures of those ultra rare gems, especially the Festival ed 17. Seen a fluorescent green CYW and a rather garish hand-sprayed Grannies recently. This has turned into a really informative thread. I've mentioned it on numerous occasions on the forum before but it would be great if Banksy and POW could publish a catalogue raisonné of all his works to date.
Would have a negative effect on auction house prices , plus there could be quite a lot more than generally thought!
They can do whatever they want. Absolutely agree that the projects cost HUGE amount of money and I will always support that. I don't care about releasing the new stuff to the chosen few or gifting it to the personnel involved when working on the projects around the world. Fair play and well done. However I feel these APs of old images is not such a good idea. Quite murky waters these being offered so long after the original release and in such a high numbers too. Then out of the blue there are other gems popping up in weird numbers (TM gold/red ed 44, colour Festival ed 17, CYW fluorescent ed 25, Grannies hand sprayed ed 11, Rats and so on). Keeping it all hush, hush doesn't help. I think Banksy and POW could do better there. Would love to see some pictures of those ultra rare gems, especially the Festival ed 17. Seen a fluorescent green CYW and a rather garish hand-sprayed Grannies recently. This has turned into a really informative thread. I've mentioned it on numerous occasions on the forum before but it would be great if Banksy and POW could publish a catalogue raisonné of all his works to date. Would have a negative effect on auction house prices , plus there could be quite a lot more than generally thought! |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by vernaxley on Feb 16, 2016 12:26:42 GMT 1, You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
POW have not really had a business model since they and Banksy parted ways with Laz, which is why everyone else apart from the artist himself will make money from Banksy. It's not how Banksy operates because making money him miserable - ask Damien Hirst (who con-incidentally co-funded Dismaland) who invites Banksy to his Thai holiday home every year only to have to listen to him being uncomfortable about his worth.
You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
POW have not really had a business model since they and Banksy parted ways with Laz, which is why everyone else apart from the artist himself will make money from Banksy. It's not how Banksy operates because making money him miserable - ask Damien Hirst (who con-incidentally co-funded Dismaland) who invites Banksy to his Thai holiday home every year only to have to listen to him being uncomfortable about his worth. |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Happy Shopper on Feb 16, 2016 12:36:29 GMT 1, Damien Hirst (who con-incidentally co-funded Dismaland)
Where did you get that info? Directors of the company are listed on Companies House, and doesn't include Hirst.
Can you back that claim up?
Just curious.
Damien Hirst (who con-incidentally co-funded Dismaland) Where did you get that info? Directors of the company are listed on Companies House, and doesn't include Hirst. Can you back that claim up? Just curious. |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Dr Plip on Feb 16, 2016 13:04:29 GMT 1, Damien Hirst (who con-incidentally co-funded Dismaland) Where did you get that info? Directors of the company are listed on Companies House, and doesn't include Hirst. Can you back that claim up? Just curious. Never mind that. I'm dying to know how they know what Banksy and Hirst talk about while they're on holiday in Thailand.
Damien Hirst (who con-incidentally co-funded Dismaland) Where did you get that info? Directors of the company are listed on Companies House, and doesn't include Hirst. Can you back that claim up? Just curious. Never mind that. I'm dying to know how they know what Banksy and Hirst talk about while they're on holiday in Thailand.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by bone on Feb 16, 2016 16:43:38 GMT 1,
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
POW have not really had a business model since they and Banksy parted ways with Laz, which is why everyone else apart from the artist himself will make money from Banksy. It's not how Banksy operates because making money him miserable - ask Damien Hirst (who con-incidentally co-funded Dismaland) who invites Banksy to his Thai holiday home every year only to have to listen to him being uncomfortable about his worth.
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
POW have not really had a business model since they and Banksy parted ways with Laz, which is why everyone else apart from the artist himself will make money from Banksy. It's not how Banksy operates because making money him miserable - ask Damien Hirst (who con-incidentally co-funded Dismaland) who invites Banksy to his Thai holiday home every year only to have to listen to him being uncomfortable about his worth. Going to need some details on your whole statement...... |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 16, 2016 17:56:07 GMT 1, Doubt you'll get them :-D
Doubt you'll get them :-D
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