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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by jay4077 on Sept 9, 2018 12:01:15 GMT 1, So you have your own estimate bracket that are below your starting price. So in order to buy that lot you'll have to pay more than you think is the market value.
So you have your own estimate bracket that are below your starting price. So in order to buy that lot you'll have to pay more than you think is the market value. |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 9, 2018 13:22:47 GMT 1, The estimate is 18-20k on this piece the starting bid should be Β£18k not Β£20k. I will raise this with Invaluable first thing Monday and resolve the situation.
Thank you for bringing it to our attention. There are some changes that need to be made thatβs why I hadnβt publicised the links to the sales.
The estimate is 18-20k on this piece the starting bid should be Β£18k not Β£20k. I will raise this with Invaluable first thing Monday and resolve the situation.
Thank you for bringing it to our attention. There are some changes that need to be made thatβs why I hadnβt publicised the links to the sales.
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by ARN on Sept 9, 2018 14:47:04 GMT 1, Some interesting stuff on both catalogues!
Some interesting stuff on both catalogues!
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jay4077
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by jay4077 on Sept 9, 2018 16:39:02 GMT 1, Okay, but I suspect the reserve price is at least Β£20k anyway...
Okay, but I suspect the reserve price is at least Β£20k anyway...
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by aravan on Sept 9, 2018 16:53:40 GMT 1, Okay, but I suspect the reserve price is at least Β£20k anyway...
Depends on the data pull from the Chiswick database...but from experience of working with invaluable thisβll just mean the vendor nets minimum 20Β£k. Minimum successful bid canβt be above the low estimate otherwise this lot would be an auditors dream.
Okay, but I suspect the reserve price is at least Β£20k anyway... Depends on the data pull from the Chiswick database...but from experience of working with invaluable thisβll just mean the vendor nets minimum 20Β£k. Minimum successful bid canβt be above the low estimate otherwise this lot would be an auditors dream. |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 9, 2018 17:44:15 GMT 1, The reserve cannot be above the low estimate there may have been a typo when entering the estimate/reserve on this lot. Iβll investigate and rectify this ASAP.
The reserve cannot be above the low estimate there may have been a typo when entering the estimate/reserve on this lot. Iβll investigate and rectify this ASAP.
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by Shoot Again on Sept 11, 2018 9:47:25 GMT 1, Clearly the UrbanArt market is not in shortage of "stuff" to sell !!! ;-)
Clearly the UrbanArt market is not in shortage of "stuff" to sell !!! ;-)
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by JL Broooks on Sept 11, 2018 10:49:18 GMT 1, I see the Invader Aladdin Sane and 'Oohh alright' are "Outside the edition". What does this mean? APs / PPs? Cant see the numbering on the pictures..
I see the Invader Aladdin Sane and 'Oohh alright' are "Outside the edition". What does this mean? APs / PPs? Cant see the numbering on the pictures..
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by Matt on Sept 11, 2018 10:55:28 GMT 1, I see the Invader Aladdin Sane and 'Oohh alright' are "Outside the edition". What does this mean? APs / PPs? Cant see the numbering on the pictures..
If they were APs / PPs I would have expected a POW blindstamp nonetheless
Anyone thinking to bid would do well sending a few pics to Orbi just to check.
If they are legit the estimate on Ohh Alright is enticing to say the least
I see the Invader Aladdin Sane and 'Oohh alright' are "Outside the edition". What does this mean? APs / PPs? Cant see the numbering on the pictures.. If they were APs / PPs I would have expected a POW blindstamp nonetheless Anyone thinking to bid would do well sending a few pics to Orbi just to check. If they are legit the estimate on Ohh Alright is enticing to say the least |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 11:48:24 GMT 1, These prints were all gifted to an ex POW employee. Their information will not be shared publicly winning bidders will be given a letter confirming the above.
We hold all consigners to the highest standards of provenance. We only accept work if weβre completely satisfied with the provenance it comes with.
If anyone has any questions on these or any other works please ask and Iβll be happy to help.
These prints were all gifted to an ex POW employee. Their information will not be shared publicly winning bidders will be given a letter confirming the above.
We hold all consigners to the highest standards of provenance. We only accept work if weβre completely satisfied with the provenance it comes with.
If anyone has any questions on these or any other works please ask and Iβll be happy to help.
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 12:37:28 GMT 1, That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil!
Strong provenance for that one?
That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil!
Strong provenance for that one?
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 12:49:24 GMT 1, These prints were all gifted to an ex POW employee. Their information will not be shared publicly winning bidders will be given a letter confirming the above. We hold all consigners to the highest standards of provenance. We only accept work if weβre completely satisfied with the provenance it comes with. If anyone has any questions on these or any other works please ask and Iβll be happy to help. Who wrote the letter confirming the gifting, the ex employee or POW management?
The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyβre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked βoutside of the editionβ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyβre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself.
These prints were all gifted to an ex POW employee. Their information will not be shared publicly winning bidders will be given a letter confirming the above. We hold all consigners to the highest standards of provenance. We only accept work if weβre completely satisfied with the provenance it comes with. If anyone has any questions on these or any other works please ask and Iβll be happy to help. Who wrote the letter confirming the gifting, the ex employee or POW management? The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyβre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked βoutside of the editionβ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyβre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. |
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 12:52:27 GMT 1, Who wrote the letter confirming the gifting, the ex employee or POW management? The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyβre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked βoutside of the editionβ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyβre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself.
Did they prove to you they were an employee... Or is it someone well known enough that no info was needed?
Who wrote the letter confirming the gifting, the ex employee or POW management? The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyβre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked βoutside of the editionβ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyβre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Did they prove to you they were an employee... Or is it someone well known enough that no info was needed? |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 12:53:39 GMT 1, That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil! Strong provenance for that one?
The consigner was covering the March on behalf of a magazine we have copies of his press pass the magazine detailing his involvement. A portfolio of photographs taken by him documenting the March.
That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil! Strong provenance for that one? The consigner was covering the March on behalf of a magazine we have copies of his press pass the magazine detailing his involvement. A portfolio of photographs taken by him documenting the March. |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 12:56:15 GMT 1, The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyβre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked βoutside of the editionβ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyβre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Did they prove to you they were an employee... Or is it someone well known enough that no info was needed?
They are 100% an ex POW employee.
The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyβre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked βoutside of the editionβ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyβre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Did they prove to you they were an employee... Or is it someone well known enough that no info was needed? They are 100% an ex POW employee. |
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 12:57:06 GMT 1, That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil! Strong provenance for that one? The consigner was covering the March on behalf of a magazine we have copies of his press pass the magazine detailing his involvement. A portfolio of photographs taken by him documenting the March.
Sounds good, but is there pictures of this placard at the march?
That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil! Strong provenance for that one? The consigner was covering the March on behalf of a magazine we have copies of his press pass the magazine detailing his involvement. A portfolio of photographs taken by him documenting the March. Sounds good, but is there pictures of this placard at the march? |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 13:14:32 GMT 1, The consigner will also sign a letter detailing the provenance. Iβve not looked through all the photos online but I havenβt seen a photo of this exact one.
The consigner will also sign a letter detailing the provenance. Iβve not looked through all the photos online but I havenβt seen a photo of this exact one.
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 13:41:50 GMT 1, The consigner will also sign a letter detailing the provenance. Iβve not looked through all the photos online but I havenβt seen a photo of this exact one.
I'm just curious, because the stencil looks to be a little different/basic in places to the similar one you sold previously.
Yellow appears to be under the black, rather than on top, etc...
Just looks too clean, but at the same time missing detail!
The consigner will also sign a letter detailing the provenance. Iβve not looked through all the photos online but I havenβt seen a photo of this exact one. I'm just curious, because the stencil looks to be a little different/basic in places to the similar one you sold previously. Yellow appears to be under the black, rather than on top, etc... Just looks too clean, but at the same time missing detail! |
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by FΠ― on Sept 11, 2018 13:43:18 GMT 1, That one yours then JBot?
No, i don't put things into auction
That one yours then JBot? No, i don't put things into auction |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 14:47:07 GMT 1, The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyβre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked βoutside of the editionβ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyβre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Appreciate the reply but that doesn't prove the employee didn't take them without permission.
For your house to offer this form of provenance only after a bidder has won an item requires the bidder to gamble on the outcome.
The letter you, and indeed potential bidders truly need is one from senior management stating that the prints were gifted to the employee.
The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyβre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked βoutside of the editionβ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyβre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Appreciate the reply but that doesn't prove the employee didn't take them without permission.
For your house to offer this form of provenance only after a bidder has won an item requires the bidder to gamble on the outcome.
The letter you, and indeed potential bidders truly need is one from senior management stating that the prints were gifted to the employee.
If there is a problem with the provenance consigners are not paid for 28 days post sale so there is a window for a winning bidder to undertake any further work if they choose to do so. |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 15:57:53 GMT 1, No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees.
If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action.
We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns.
No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees.
If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action.
We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns.
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 16:58:19 GMT 1, No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees. If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action. We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns.
So, if the buyer who can't see the provenance before hand, is unhappy when he does see it, then actually he can't have a refund or back out!
No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees. If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action. We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns. So, if the buyer who can't see the provenance before hand, is unhappy when he does see it, then actually he can't have a refund or back out! |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 18:12:06 GMT 1, No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees. If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action. We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns. So, if the buyer who can't see the provenance before hand, is unhappy when he does see it, then actually he can't have a refund or back out!
Paragraph 2 and 3 cover your concern. I notice youβre referring to this buyer in the third person so youβre not actually planning to bid yourself?
We welcome any interest in works weβre selling and appreciate the opportunity to let the community know how we deal with works where coaβs are not issued/applicable.
No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees. If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action. We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns. So, if the buyer who can't see the provenance before hand, is unhappy when he does see it, then actually he can't have a refund or back out! Paragraph 2 and 3 cover your concern. I notice youβre referring to this buyer in the third person so youβre not actually planning to bid yourself? We welcome any interest in works weβre selling and appreciate the opportunity to let the community know how we deal with works where coaβs are not issued/applicable. |
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by wave on Sept 11, 2018 19:21:07 GMT 1, New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in.
If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying?
Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with?
New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in.
If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying?
Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with?
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by irl1 on Sept 11, 2018 19:33:05 GMT 1, New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with?
As a seller if you sell for 20k, its 20k less your sellers commission, again you will have to haggle with the auction house before you consign. They can also charge extras for catalogue fees etc, do check before consigning.
There is a few threads on this somewhere.
New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with? As a buyer it will be the hammer price plus their commission (normally about 20 to 25%, but check with the auction house) and the shipping, which can be very expensive, collect if you can. As a seller if you sell for 20k, its 20k less your sellers commission, again you will have to haggle with the auction house before you consign. They can also charge extras for catalogue fees etc, do check before consigning. There is a few threads on this somewhere. |
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by wave on Sept 11, 2018 19:54:01 GMT 1, New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with? As a buyer it will be the hammer price plus their commission (normally about 20 to 25%, but check with the auction house) and the shipping, which can be very expensive, collect if you can. As a seller if you sell for 20k, its 20k less your sellers commission, again you will have to haggle with the auction house before you consign. They can also charge extras for catalogue fees etc, do check before consigning. There is a few threads on this somewhere.
Thanks. So hammer price + 25% commission. Is that all inclusive of vat?
New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with? As a buyer it will be the hammer price plus their commission (normally about 20 to 25%, but check with the auction house) and the shipping, which can be very expensive, collect if you can. As a seller if you sell for 20k, its 20k less your sellers commission, again you will have to haggle with the auction house before you consign. They can also charge extras for catalogue fees etc, do check before consigning. There is a few threads on this somewhere. Thanks. So hammer price + 25% commission. Is that all inclusive of vat? |
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Chiswick β’ Urban Art Auctions π¬π§, by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 20:00:04 GMT 1, New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with?
Bought Β£20k
Buyers Fee @25% = Β£5,000
Vat on buyers fee @20% =Β£1,000
If you were Bidding using saleroom or similar add another 3% = Β£600
Vat @20% =Β£120
Artist resale . 4% = Β£800
So in answer the question I think if your winning bid was Β£20,000
Total payable would be between Β£26,800 and Β£27,520
someone else can do the seller bit as my kettle has boiled
New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with? Bought Β£20k Buyers Fee @25% = Β£5,000 Vat on buyers fee @20% =Β£1,000 If you were Bidding using saleroom or similar add another 3% = Β£600 Vat @20% =Β£120 Artist resale . 4% = Β£800 So in answer the question I think if your winning bid was Β£20,000 Total payable would be between Β£26,800 and Β£27,520 someone else can do the seller bit as my kettle has boiled |
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