[artdelight]

when will BANKSY release a new print series?

[Viennese]

Yes it has been confirmed by a government spokesperson.

What really strikes me is that the barbarity is so clear. If you knew Israeli society, those Hippies at the nature party represent the section of society that is the most pro-Palestinian. They were dancing in front of Buddha statues. But the really sad part is that even that should not actually matter.

[topper]

Killing young people at a music festival is barbaric AND turning off the water supply to 4 million people is barbaric.

It's not an either/or

[Boost the goat]

Where / who confirmed it.  Stop spreading bs. 
every single source says the same thing. 
“A soldier said”. Sky news. BBC.  CNN.  Etc.  with no actual confirmation from the government.  

beheading babies is another level of evil. Not saying hamas isn’t guilty but prior to Saturday , do you know how many babies were killed in Gaza? Do you know how many civilians have been killed in Gaza prior to Saturday ? 

when the oppressor is a western country , it’s all good and well. when it’s a Muslim country , it’s terrorism , they are labelled as being backwards. Barbaric. Terrorist. They must confine to the western standards. 

Israel is definitely blameless in this. Israel have as much blood on its hands!

but this narrative of headless babies , if you can’t provide a valid source.  A clip of an official confirming it or link to a verifiable source , then don’t add fuel to the fire. 

[The Italian One]

Just in:
israeli air force planes have destroyed more than 22,639 homes, 10 healthcare facilities and 48 schools in Gaza!

source Middle East montor

[Boost the goat]

Oct 12, 2023 12:17:02 GMT 1 Viennese said:

Yes it has been confirmed by a government spokesperson.

What really strikes me is that the barbarity is so clear. If you knew Israeli society, those Hippies at the nature party represent the section of society that is the most pro-Palestinian. They were dancing in front of Buddha statues. But the really sad part is that even that should not actually matter.

When you find the source , please share with me so I can forward to cnn and bbc and sky news and the Israeli government who must be incompetent.  Someone not physically in Israel right now knows more than they do!


china place image

[bookends]

Oct 12, 2023 13:41:51 GMT 1 The Italian One said:

Just in:
israeli air force planes have destroyed more than 22,639 homes, 10 healthcare facilities and 48 schools in Gaza!

source Middle East montor

Exactly where the cowards are hiding

[Daylight Robber]

Oct 12, 2023 13:41:51 GMT 1 The Italian One said:

Just in:
israeli air force planes have destroyed more than 22,639 homes, 10 healthcare facilities and 48 schools in Gaza!

source Middle East montor

It's ok. They knocked 1st.

[The Italian One]

there are rules also in a war!

NO bombing schools NO bombing Healthcare if you do that then you are the same level of Hamas!

BTW "it's ok they knocked first" is such a STUPID reply when there are involved children and woman

[Londown 01]

Very good idea to discuss one of the longest and most complicated political, cultural and military conflicts of the modern era on an art forum. Only good can come from that.

[The Italian One]

Oct 12, 2023 13:58:57 GMT 1 Londown 01 said:

Very good idea to discuss one of the longest and most complicated political, cultural and military conflicts of the modern era on an art forum. Only good can come from that.

doesn't Banksy did it with the Walled off hotel?


maybe we learn something from each other ?

[mojo]

I really think this thread needs to be removed.  @danielsilk I'm sure you didn't anticipate some of the more extremist views being expressed on here but quite frankly some of them are bordering on complete insanity and at the very least you could remove the option to comment on such a sensitive and complicated situation whilst innocent people are being murdered.  The solution to this conflict, that has been ongoing for many years, is not going to be solved on UAA.  Many forum members have visited Israel and Palestine and want nothing more than peace for all.
Perhaps if you feel it necessary to comment on these atrocities go to a newspaper comments section, write to your MP, join a likeminded group, make art about it but endorsing murder of anyone is unacceptable and grotesque.

[House of Arts]

Oct 12, 2023 9:31:01 GMT 1 Boost the goat said:

“Beheading babies” can you confirm the source , verifiable source ? 

35 Minutes ago

Photos of babies being burnt, decapitated confirmed

By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
The Jerusalem Post can now confirm based on verified photos of the bodies that the reports of babies being burnt and decapitated in Hamas's assault on Kfar Aza are correct.



May their memory be a blessing.

[Daylight Robber]

Oct 12, 2023 13:57:41 GMT 1 The Italian One said:

there are rules also in a war!

NO bombing schools NO bombing Healthcare if you do that then you are the same level of Hamas!

BTW "it's ok they knocked first" is such a STUPID reply when there are involved children and woman

Apologies, I was just reminding folk of how humane the State of Israel and her supporters, including on this thread, are showing themselves to be, by offering this up as a opportunity for innocent Palestinians to escape bombardment. 

The twisted logic is that the Palestinians then only have themselves to blame for being killed. It's sick

[Pete the Post]

Oct 12, 2023 15:11:28 GMT 1 House of Arts said:

Oct 12, 2023 9:31:01 GMT 1 Boost the goat said:

“Beheading babies” can you confirm the source , verifiable source ? 

35 Minutes ago

Photos of babies being burnt, decapitated confirmed

By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
The Jerusalem Post can now confirm based on verified photos of the bodies that the reports of babies being burnt and decapitated in Hamas's assault on Kfar Aza are correct.



May their memory be a blessing.

They said a reliable source or proof. This is worse than relying on the mail or the sun for information!!

[Pete the Post]

I think house of arts may currently be on sky news. Attacking the presenter!

[House of Arts]

So after you sick demented fucks commenting above this have read and seen everything these vile animals have inflicted upon Jewish families, you need to see actual pictures of dead babies to make a moral judgement about those Hamas rats?

THIS IS A LINK SHOWING PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES, MURDERED AND BURNT BY HAMAS. DO NOT CLICK ON THIS IS YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES.

EXTREMELE NSFW DONT CLICK IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES

[Daylight Robber]

Oct 12, 2023 16:09:09 GMT 1 House of Arts said:

So after you sick demented fucks commenting above this have read and seen everything these vile animals have inflicted upon Jewish families, you need to see actual pictures of dead babies to make a moral judgement about those Hamas rats?

THIS IS A LINK SHOWING PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES, MURDERED AND BURNT BY HAMAS. DO NOT CLICK ON THIS IS YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES.

EXTREMELE NSFW DONT CLICK IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES

No one in these threads has condoned the actions of Hamas, or at any time shown them support. What you appear to want to shut down is sympathy for ordinary Palestinian people. I'm still waiting for my apology.

[bookends]

Oct 12, 2023 16:31:14 GMT 1 Daylight Robber said:

Oct 12, 2023 16:09:09 GMT 1 House of Arts said:

So after you sick demented fucks commenting above this have read and seen everything these vile animals have inflicted upon Jewish families, you need to see actual pictures of dead babies to make a moral judgement about those Hamas rats?

THIS IS A LINK SHOWING PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES, MURDERED AND BURNT BY HAMAS. DO NOT CLICK ON THIS IS YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES.

EXTREMELE NSFW DONT CLICK IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES

No one in these threads has condoned the actions of Hamas, or at any time shown them support. What you appear to want to shut down is sympathy for ordinary Palestinian people. I'm still waiting for my apology.

Why should anyone apologise to you ?  I havent read anything about you that I dont think myself 

[Daylight Robber]

Oct 12, 2023 16:58:08 GMT 1 bookends said:

Oct 12, 2023 16:31:14 GMT 1 Daylight Robber said:

No one in these threads has condoned the actions of Hamas, or at any time shown them support. What you appear to want to shut down is sympathy for ordinary Palestinian people. I'm still waiting for my apology.

Why should anyone apologise to you ?  I havent read anything about you that I dont think myself 

Because I've been called an anti-Semite and a terrorist sympathiser. And if you think the same you too should provide evidence or apologise.

[artdelight]

we need world peace and more Banksy prints on sale.

[Viennese]

Oct 12, 2023 13:36:45 GMT 1 Boost the goat said:

Where / who confirmed it.  Stop spreading bs. 
every single source says the same thing. 
“A soldier said”. Sky news. BBC.  CNN.  Etc.  with no actual confirmation from the government.  

beheading babies is another level of evil. Not saying hamas isn’t guilty but prior to Saturday , do you know how many babies were killed in Gaza? Do you know how many civilians have been killed in Gaza prior to Saturday ? 

when the oppressor is a western country , it’s all good and well. when it’s a Muslim country , it’s terrorism , they are labelled as being backwards. Barbaric. Terrorist. They must confine to the western standards. 

Israel is definitely blameless in this. Israel have as much blood on its hands!

but this narrative of headless babies , if you can’t provide a valid source.  A clip of an official confirming it or link to a verifiable source , then don’t add fuel to the fire. 

You are accusing people that are in shock about the slaughter of civilians of quite a lot of things. I read in this thread that no one here has shown Hamas support but enough posts here are relativizing what happened. “Is guilty BUT” - what are you implying? Raping teenagers at a festival next to their dead friends was just an automatic outcome? That the slaughter of babies had to happen?
The sad part is that I would have a lot to criticize when it comes to Gaza but this is not the moment.
And yes, it is not “either…or”, but it is also not the same.

How am I supposed to read the posts? Everyone here that calls Hamas out “without contextualizing” is for civilian deaths in Gaza? And muslim countries more broadly? That is the nonsense!

I actually believe that everyone needs to confine to those standards that you call “Western” when it means not to massacre civilians.

[Viennese]

Oct 12, 2023 16:31:14 GMT 1 Daylight Robber said:

Oct 12, 2023 16:09:09 GMT 1 House of Arts said:

So after you sick demented fucks commenting above this have read and seen everything these vile animals have inflicted upon Jewish families, you need to see actual pictures of dead babies to make a moral judgement about those Hamas rats?

THIS IS A LINK SHOWING PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES, MURDERED AND BURNT BY HAMAS. DO NOT CLICK ON THIS IS YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES.

EXTREMELE NSFW DONT CLICK IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES

No one in these threads has condoned the actions of Hamas, or at any time shown them support. What you appear to want to shut down is sympathy for ordinary Palestinian people. I'm still waiting for my apology.

I think you have it backwards. I believe the outrage stems from exactly the lack of sympathy the world exhibits for ordinary Israelis. I truly believe that a massacre of this dimension would have resulted in shows of solidarity from people everywhere were it not committed against Israelis. Yes, some governments showed their support but nothing of the like we saw prior and completely disproportionate to what happened here. This was the biggest progrom against Jews since the Holocaust. There is hardly a single Israeli/Jew that does not know someone who knows someone that was either killed or injured or is missing.

[ubl]

The fact that Israel can cut off Gaza, where also ordinary families live, from water, gas and food, shows what Gaza really is. They are 100% dependent on Israel, I very much doubt it's by choice. What the Hamas terrorists did is inexcusable, but punishing innocent civilians and children is genocidal none the less. Pick a side if you must, but there is clearly something wrong on both sides.

[Viennese]

Oct 12, 2023 13:57:41 GMT 1 The Italian One said:

there are rules also in a war!

NO bombing schools NO bombing Healthcare if you do that then you are the same level of Hamas!

BTW "it's ok they knocked first" is such a STUPID reply when there are involved children and woman

Yes, there are: International humanitarian law and it actually allows civilian infrastructure to be targeted if it represents a military objective. This is of course overly simplified but the point is that the drafters of those rules were aware that they needed to account for the possibility that civilian buildings, schools etc are used militarily. It is well known that the HQ of Hamas was (maybe still is, I don’t know) underneath a hospital (which is of course in breach of humanitarian law). There needs to be proportionality, loss of civilian life cannot be excessive.

The roof knocking method has actually limited civilian casualties. The US also used it in Mosul during the war against ISIS. The BBC reported that Israel has been sending instructions and maps to Gazans telling them where to go to evade the upcoming fighting. Of course these measures are not enough to prevent civilian deaths but at least they are doing something to limit them, btw at cost of their own soldiers and objectives.

[artdelight]

make new print release great again!!!

[jesustheba]

Oct 12, 2023 18:18:31 GMT 1 Viennese said:

Oct 12, 2023 16:31:14 GMT 1 Daylight Robber said:

No one in these threads has condoned the actions of Hamas, or at any time shown them support. What you appear to want to shut down is sympathy for ordinary Palestinian people. I'm still waiting for my apology.

I think you have it backwards. I believe the outrage stems from exactly the lack of sympathy the world exhibits for ordinary Israelis. I truly believe that a massacre of this dimension would have resulted in shows of solidarity from people everywhere were it not committed against Israelis. Yes, some governments showed their support but nothing of the like we saw prior and completely disproportionate to what happened here. This was the biggest progrom against Jews since the Holocaust. There is hardly a single Israeli/Jew that does not know someone who knows someone that was either killed or injured or is missing.

The whiff of antisemitism is very strong, where are the lit candles, the changed Facebook profiles etc we saw after attacks on USA, UK, France ( all with blood on their hands) instead we get, it's awful but .... I don't condone it but ....and worst of all ordinary Jewish people feeling unsafe and unsupported, just look at the celebrations in places like London of these terrible attacks
The world is becoming a awful place 

[slevin]

Oct 12, 2023 18:52:29 GMT 1 jesustheba said:

Oct 12, 2023 18:18:31 GMT 1 Viennese said:

I think you have it backwards. I believe the outrage stems from exactly the lack of sympathy the world exhibits for ordinary Israelis. I truly believe that a massacre of this dimension would have resulted in shows of solidarity from people everywhere were it not committed against Israelis. Yes, some governments showed their support but nothing of the like we saw prior and completely disproportionate to what happened here. This was the biggest progrom against Jews since the Holocaust. There is hardly a single Israeli/Jew that does not know someone who knows someone that was either killed or injured or is missing.

The whiff of antisemitism is very strong, where are the lit candles, the changed Facebook profiles etc we saw after attacks on USA, UK, France ( all with blood on their hands) instead we get, it's awful but .... I don't condone it but ....and worst of all ordinary Jewish people feeling unsafe and unsupported, just look at the celebrations in places like London of these terrible attacks
The world is becoming a awful place 

I don't think those people were celebrating terrorism. They're the same people who have been calling for a Free Palestine and an end to oppression for decades. 

[STP]

Oct 12, 2023 16:09:09 GMT 1 House of Arts said:

So after you sick demented fucks commenting above this have read and seen everything these vile animals have inflicted upon Jewish families, you need to see actual pictures of dead babies to make a moral judgement about those Hamas rats?

THIS IS A LINK SHOWING PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES, MURDERED AND BURNT BY HAMAS. DO NOT CLICK ON THIS IS YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF DEAD BABIES.
***Link removed***

People wishing peace for both sides are 'sick demented fucks'?

Take a look at yourself.

[artdelight]

walled-off hotel is still in operation?