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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 15:58:13 GMT 1, Ooh get you. You write this and you say that I'm the one trolling! Pot - kettle?? Ok I'm completely bored of this thread now. WCP Kates have now sold out (thanks to people like you for giving him the free publicity) and his others seem to be selling fast too. I don't think there's much need to carry on the conversation now is there? So by calling a troll a troll that makes me a troll? I would say, "nice logic." But somehow I don't think you understand the meaning of the word. I could point out multiple instances where someone tells you something. You ignore it and claim they said something completely different. If that's not trolling, it's simply stupidity. Either way, I wish you the best of luck in life. I have a feeling you're going to need it. Errrr well it's more about calling someone stupid on the Internet (can't believe I just had to point that out to you).
Now who's making assumptions? For someone who knows nothing about me you seem to know that I'm going to need lots of luck. My life's going very well thanks: new girlfriend, promoted in the Fire Brigade a few months ago and looking at getting a new house in the new year.
Yes I guess I am a lucky man after all - thanks for pointing that out to me : )
Ooh get you. You write this and you say that I'm the one trolling! Pot - kettle?? Ok I'm completely bored of this thread now. WCP Kates have now sold out (thanks to people like you for giving him the free publicity) and his others seem to be selling fast too. I don't think there's much need to carry on the conversation now is there? So by calling a troll a troll that makes me a troll? I would say, "nice logic." But somehow I don't think you understand the meaning of the word. I could point out multiple instances where someone tells you something. You ignore it and claim they said something completely different. If that's not trolling, it's simply stupidity. Either way, I wish you the best of luck in life. I have a feeling you're going to need it. Errrr well it's more about calling someone stupid on the Internet (can't believe I just had to point that out to you). Now who's making assumptions? For someone who knows nothing about me you seem to know that I'm going to need lots of luck. My life's going very well thanks: new girlfriend, promoted in the Fire Brigade a few months ago and looking at getting a new house in the new year. Yes I guess I am a lucky man after all - thanks for pointing that out to me : )
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Art Wanted, by randomname on Oct 31, 2013 16:15:32 GMT 1, So by calling a troll a troll that makes me a troll? I would say, "nice logic." But somehow I don't think you understand the meaning of the word. I could point out multiple instances where someone tells you something. You ignore it and claim they said something completely different. If that's not trolling, it's simply stupidity. Either way, I wish you the best of luck in life. I have a feeling you're going to need it. Errrr well it's more about calling someone stupid on the Internet (can't believe I just had to point that out to you). Now who's making assumptions? For someone who knows nothing about me you seem to know that I'm going to need lots of luck. My life's going very well thanks: new girlfriend, promoted in the Fire Brigade a few months ago and looking at getting a new house in the new year. Yes I guess I am a lucky man after all - thanks for pointing that out to me : ) I believe I said you were either trolling or stupid. Or perhaps both. I left the door open for some semblance of intelligence. You're doing a fine job of forcing that door shut. Congrats.
So by calling a troll a troll that makes me a troll? I would say, "nice logic." But somehow I don't think you understand the meaning of the word. I could point out multiple instances where someone tells you something. You ignore it and claim they said something completely different. If that's not trolling, it's simply stupidity. Either way, I wish you the best of luck in life. I have a feeling you're going to need it. Errrr well it's more about calling someone stupid on the Internet (can't believe I just had to point that out to you). Now who's making assumptions? For someone who knows nothing about me you seem to know that I'm going to need lots of luck. My life's going very well thanks: new girlfriend, promoted in the Fire Brigade a few months ago and looking at getting a new house in the new year. Yes I guess I am a lucky man after all - thanks for pointing that out to me : ) I believe I said you were either trolling or stupid. Or perhaps both. I left the door open for some semblance of intelligence. You're doing a fine job of forcing that door shut. Congrats.
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 16:24:52 GMT 1, Jesus Christ Randomname just let it go. You're like an itch that can't be scratched, your nick-name isn't 'Thrush' is it? (Get someone to explain that if you don't understand).
Ok I can see you're desperate for the last word so I'll let you have it.
Take it away.
Jesus Christ Randomname just let it go. You're like an itch that can't be scratched, your nick-name isn't 'Thrush' is it? (Get someone to explain that if you don't understand).
Ok I can see you're desperate for the last word so I'll let you have it.
Take it away.
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Art Wanted, by randomname on Oct 31, 2013 16:49:07 GMT 1, Why are you mad? Did your trolling not go quite as planned?
On a serious note, I am curious. Do you really not understand what people are saying when they respond to you? Or do you misstate what they say intentionally just to get attention?
This is not me trying to get the last word, btw. I would be interested to hear an honest answer. As unlikely as that might be.
Why are you mad? Did your trolling not go quite as planned?
On a serious note, I am curious. Do you really not understand what people are saying when they respond to you? Or do you misstate what they say intentionally just to get attention?
This is not me trying to get the last word, btw. I would be interested to hear an honest answer. As unlikely as that might be.
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Oct 31, 2013 16:55:11 GMT 1, I'd be interested to know if they are printed on the same paper as early Banksy prints are notorious for being on terrible quality paper. My Blue Kate looks good... In the folder still though.
I'd be interested to know if they are printed on the same paper as early Banksy prints are notorious for being on terrible quality paper. My Blue Kate looks good... In the folder still though.
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 17:13:46 GMT 1, I'd be interested to know if they are printed on the same paper as early Banksy prints are notorious for being on terrible quality paper. My Blue Kate looks good... In the folder still though.
So anyway let's just leave Thrush (as he'll be known from now on) to one side and get back on topic shall we.......
I think he does try to use the same paper as the Banksy prints iamzero. If you read the description on WCP's Ebay page it should say what paper he uses for each print.
I've never bought one but if you're not sure I'd say don't let people here bully you into not buying one and take a ยฃ60 gamble on whatever other WCP print you want
I'd be interested to know if they are printed on the same paper as early Banksy prints are notorious for being on terrible quality paper. My Blue Kate looks good... In the folder still though. So anyway let's just leave Thrush (as he'll be known from now on) to one side and get back on topic shall we....... I think he does try to use the same paper as the Banksy prints iamzero. If you read the description on WCP's Ebay page it should say what paper he uses for each print. I've never bought one but if you're not sure I'd say don't let people here bully you into not buying one and take a ยฃ60 gamble on whatever other WCP print you want
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Art Wanted, by Prescription Art on Oct 31, 2013 17:43:59 GMT 1, I think he does try to use the same paper as the Banksy prints iamzero. If you read the description on WCP's Ebay page it should say what paper he uses for each print. I've never bought one but if you're not sure I'd say don't let people here bully you into not buying one and take a ยฃ60 gamble on whatever other WCP print you want For someone who doesn't like Banksy and has never bought one of these you certainly have a lot to say on the matter.
A fake is a fake.
If you want to spend ยฃ60 on some Banksy items I would recommend tracking down a copy of the 'we love you so love us' LP. At least you can look at that on your wall without feeling guilt for lining a thief's pockets.
I think he does try to use the same paper as the Banksy prints iamzero. If you read the description on WCP's Ebay page it should say what paper he uses for each print. I've never bought one but if you're not sure I'd say don't let people here bully you into not buying one and take a ยฃ60 gamble on whatever other WCP print you want For someone who doesn't like Banksy and has never bought one of these you certainly have a lot to say on the matter. A fake is a fake. If you want to spend ยฃ60 on some Banksy items I would recommend tracking down a copy of the 'we love you so love us' LP. At least you can look at that on your wall without feeling guilt for lining a thief's pockets.
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Art Wanted, by johnnyh on Oct 31, 2013 17:53:48 GMT 1, Here here well said prescription. Also these things take money out of galleries and people trying and making an honest living out of art. If people did not buy these prints they would probably buy other art therefore supporting working artists.
So a big no, no for me
Here here well said prescription. Also these things take money out of galleries and people trying and making an honest living out of art. If people did not buy these prints they would probably buy other art therefore supporting working artists.
So a big no, no for me
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Oct 31, 2013 18:11:16 GMT 1, I disagree completely. Surely it's only a fake if it's claiming to be a genuine Banksy... Which it clearly isn't, only people that frame it and con naive people into parting with their money are doing that.
And as for the argument that this kind of thing is taking money from galleries... Well my recent Blake, Borf, Eine's, Charming Baker, Hutch, Prefab77 and other things jammed onto this months credit card statement might want to argue that point. And the only thing stopping me buying a genuine Banksy right now are galleries with their outrageous prices and under the bed investors and their equally high gallery like prices.
Not wishing offend anyone with this comment it's just a fact of my personal situation.
I disagree completely. Surely it's only a fake if it's claiming to be a genuine Banksy... Which it clearly isn't, only people that frame it and con naive people into parting with their money are doing that.
And as for the argument that this kind of thing is taking money from galleries... Well my recent Blake, Borf, Eine's, Charming Baker, Hutch, Prefab77 and other things jammed onto this months credit card statement might want to argue that point. And the only thing stopping me buying a genuine Banksy right now are galleries with their outrageous prices and under the bed investors and their equally high gallery like prices.
Not wishing offend anyone with this comment it's just a fact of my personal situation.
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 18:12:49 GMT 1, I think he does try to use the same paper as the Banksy prints iamzero. If you read the description on WCP's Ebay page it should say what paper he uses for each print. I've never bought one but if you're not sure I'd say don't let people here bully you into not buying one and take a ยฃ60 gamble on whatever other WCP print you want For someone who doesn't like Banksy and has never bought one of these you certainly have a lot to say on the matter. A fake is a fake. If you want to spend ยฃ60 on some Banksy items I would recommend tracking down a copy of the 'we love you so love us' LP. At least you can look at that on your wall without feeling guilt for lining a thief's pockets. Ok. Seeing as I kinda know you and you kinda know me (by sight anyway) this is slightly embarrassing !!
I think we'll have to leave this here!
I think he does try to use the same paper as the Banksy prints iamzero. If you read the description on WCP's Ebay page it should say what paper he uses for each print. I've never bought one but if you're not sure I'd say don't let people here bully you into not buying one and take a ยฃ60 gamble on whatever other WCP print you want For someone who doesn't like Banksy and has never bought one of these you certainly have a lot to say on the matter. A fake is a fake. If you want to spend ยฃ60 on some Banksy items I would recommend tracking down a copy of the 'we love you so love us' LP. At least you can look at that on your wall without feeling guilt for lining a thief's pockets. Ok. Seeing as I kinda know you and you kinda know me (by sight anyway) this is slightly embarrassing !! I think we'll have to leave this here!
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Art Wanted, by pcant on Oct 31, 2013 18:15:14 GMT 1, I find it a little hard to believe that if Banksy really didn't want WCP to do this, he wouldn't have it in his power to stop WCP. Even though Banksy doesn't have an official "identity," he clearly has money, power and influence (come on, he just did a month show on the streets of New York and somehow didn't get caught?). If these were that much more of a threat to Banksy than, say, the digital canvas prints that flood eBay, wouldn't he crack down on that?
I find it a little hard to believe that if Banksy really didn't want WCP to do this, he wouldn't have it in his power to stop WCP. Even though Banksy doesn't have an official "identity," he clearly has money, power and influence (come on, he just did a month show on the streets of New York and somehow didn't get caught?). If these were that much more of a threat to Banksy than, say, the digital canvas prints that flood eBay, wouldn't he crack down on that?
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Art Wanted, by johnnyh on Oct 31, 2013 18:18:43 GMT 1, It's fake because it's a copy.
Re galleries don't own one etc and agree on some of their pricing but that's their choice as it were. But remember they do have rent to pay, they have staff etc, ideally they want to make a profit so as with most businesses it ain't easy. Especially for the young galleries. Artist you mention all players but there are loads that struggle to make a living etc as do a lot of galleries that are small and local.
It's fake because it's a copy.
Re galleries don't own one etc and agree on some of their pricing but that's their choice as it were. But remember they do have rent to pay, they have staff etc, ideally they want to make a profit so as with most businesses it ain't easy. Especially for the young galleries. Artist you mention all players but there are loads that struggle to make a living etc as do a lot of galleries that are small and local.
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 18:26:01 GMT 1, under the bed investors and their equally high gallery like prices. Not wishing offend anyone with this comment it's just a fact of my personal situation. And it's some of these 'under the bed investors', 'stored flat since purchase', 'buy to invest' people that really don't want Banksy to be available to everyone.
It won't be Banksy losing money at all as his prints will be all be sold at cost in the blink of an eye when they drop (that's why no action has been taken against WCP) it's the people mentioned above that will lose out. It would only be stealing from the artist if they hadn't sold out but I don't think there's too many Banksys still at cost floating about - if anyone knows any then please let me know.
under the bed investors and their equally high gallery like prices. Not wishing offend anyone with this comment it's just a fact of my personal situation. And it's some of these 'under the bed investors', 'stored flat since purchase', 'buy to invest' people that really don't want Banksy to be available to everyone. It won't be Banksy losing money at all as his prints will be all be sold at cost in the blink of an eye when they drop (that's why no action has been taken against WCP) it's the people mentioned above that will lose out. It would only be stealing from the artist if they hadn't sold out but I don't think there's too many Banksys still at cost floating about - if anyone knows any then please let me know.
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Art Wanted, by johnnyh on Oct 31, 2013 18:33:38 GMT 1, No Ambo your missing the point these have no affect on the Banksy market.....they effect the same price range market. They effect artists selling work in a similar cost bracket eg the 50 - 200 price bracket.
That's where the effect is felt by artists and it's the poorer artists that feel the effect. Re Ilams comment look who he is buying they are out of the bracket
No Ambo your missing the point these have no affect on the Banksy market.....they effect the same price range market. They effect artists selling work in a similar cost bracket eg the 50 - 200 price bracket.
That's where the effect is felt by artists and it's the poorer artists that feel the effect. Re Ilams comment look who he is buying they are out of the bracket
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Oct 31, 2013 18:37:55 GMT 1, It's fake because it's a copy. Re galleries don't own one etc and agree on some of their pricing but that's their choice as it were. But remember they do have rent to pay, they have staff etc, ideally they want to make a profit so as with most businesses it ain't easy. Especially for the young galleries. Artist you mention all players but there are loads that struggle to make a living etc as do a lot of galleries that are small and local.
Fake is to have a false or misleading appearance by definition which WCP with its stamp clearly isn't?
Copy is defined as an imitation or reproduction of an original. More like it?
I agree that galleries have to make a living but it's hard to find sympathy with people like POW that were caught out ripping people off and the fact that galleries actively hold back some of the sold out editions for release at a higher price later on. The fact for me lies in the people that don't like these are in fear of their on Banksy investment being undermined which I don't buy into either... The prices will maintain no matter.
Years ago I was told that home taping was killing music... Those record companies are still here making big money.
It's fake because it's a copy. Re galleries don't own one etc and agree on some of their pricing but that's their choice as it were. But remember they do have rent to pay, they have staff etc, ideally they want to make a profit so as with most businesses it ain't easy. Especially for the young galleries. Artist you mention all players but there are loads that struggle to make a living etc as do a lot of galleries that are small and local. Fake is to have a false or misleading appearance by definition which WCP with its stamp clearly isn't? Copy is defined as an imitation or reproduction of an original. More like it? I agree that galleries have to make a living but it's hard to find sympathy with people like POW that were caught out ripping people off and the fact that galleries actively hold back some of the sold out editions for release at a higher price later on. The fact for me lies in the people that don't like these are in fear of their on Banksy investment being undermined which I don't buy into either... The prices will maintain no matter. Years ago I was told that home taping was killing music... Those record companies are still here making big money.
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 18:41:16 GMT 1, I see what you're saying but the fact is that some people might not want another artists print on their wall and some people will say that they just want a Banksy on their wall but just can't afford it so this is their only choice.
Surely I could say that every time someone is selling a Banksy on this forum for X thousands of pounds (and making a huge profit in the process) then the person buying it could buy lots of prints from a less well known artist instead and support those artists instead.
I see what you're saying but the fact is that some people might not want another artists print on their wall and some people will say that they just want a Banksy on their wall but just can't afford it so this is their only choice.
Surely I could say that every time someone is selling a Banksy on this forum for X thousands of pounds (and making a huge profit in the process) then the person buying it could buy lots of prints from a less well known artist instead and support those artists instead.
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Oct 31, 2013 18:44:32 GMT 1, No Ambo your missing the point these have no affect on the Banksy market.....they effect the same price range market. They effect artists selling work in a similar cost bracket eg the 50 - 200 price bracket. That's where the effect is felt by artists and it's the poorer artists that feel the effect. Re Ilams comment look who he is buying they are out of the bracket
My thoughts on this dude are the people that might generally buy in WCP are not the people that would buy into new artist but the ikea/ high street buyers. This is based on people I know who are aware that I have become a little bit of an art fan so we talk.
I am in trouble with some of my friends partners for leading them into the new somewhat expensive and addictive hobby but I'm glad to have helped steer them into something other than Dunelm and B&Q canvases.
No Ambo your missing the point these have no affect on the Banksy market.....they effect the same price range market. They effect artists selling work in a similar cost bracket eg the 50 - 200 price bracket. That's where the effect is felt by artists and it's the poorer artists that feel the effect. Re Ilams comment look who he is buying they are out of the bracket My thoughts on this dude are the people that might generally buy in WCP are not the people that would buy into new artist but the ikea/ high street buyers. This is based on people I know who are aware that I have become a little bit of an art fan so we talk. I am in trouble with some of my friends partners for leading them into the new somewhat expensive and addictive hobby but I'm glad to have helped steer them into something other than Dunelm and B&Q canvases.
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Art Wanted, by johnnyh on Oct 31, 2013 19:01:22 GMT 1, fake 1 (fk) adj. Having a false or misleading appearance; fraudulent. n. 1. One that is not authentic or genuine; a sham. 2. Sports A brief feint or aborted change of direction intended to mislead one's opponent or the opposing team. v. faked, fakยทing, fakes v.tr. 1. To contrive and present as genuine; counterfeit. 2. To simulate; feign. 3. Music To improvise (a passage). 4. Sports To deceive (an opponent) with a fake. Often used with out. v.intr. 1. To engage in feigning, simulation, or other deceptive activity. 2. Sports To perform a fake.
think actually these do fall into the definition of fake. Your stamp on the back makes no difference. Not saying they are presenting them as originals. If you buy a copy Gucci Bag in Thailand or China they do not tell you it's original do they. the excuse that everyone is rich Banksy investors scared of these crap copies is just ridiculous. They don't give a shit.....if that makes people happier buying then good luck but it ain't true. They have no effect on the price of Banksy's as say there effect is much lower down the food chain.....that is a fact
so there not damaging Banksy or the Banksy Market but there is in all markets a total spend so it is damaging legitimate artists who are not selling as many as they might. It's not massive but small amounts make a difference to them individually as they are individuals
fake 1 (fk) adj. Having a false or misleading appearance; fraudulent. n. 1. One that is not authentic or genuine; a sham. 2. Sports A brief feint or aborted change of direction intended to mislead one's opponent or the opposing team. v. faked, fakยทing, fakes v.tr. 1. To contrive and present as genuine; counterfeit. 2. To simulate; feign. 3. Music To improvise (a passage). 4. Sports To deceive (an opponent) with a fake. Often used with out. v.intr. 1. To engage in feigning, simulation, or other deceptive activity. 2. Sports To perform a fake.
think actually these do fall into the definition of fake. Your stamp on the back makes no difference. Not saying they are presenting them as originals. If you buy a copy Gucci Bag in Thailand or China they do not tell you it's original do they. the excuse that everyone is rich Banksy investors scared of these crap copies is just ridiculous. They don't give a shit.....if that makes people happier buying then good luck but it ain't true. They have no effect on the price of Banksy's as say there effect is much lower down the food chain.....that is a fact
so there not damaging Banksy or the Banksy Market but there is in all markets a total spend so it is damaging legitimate artists who are not selling as many as they might. It's not massive but small amounts make a difference to them individually as they are individuals
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 19:10:45 GMT 1, is there a forum for knock off's and fake bits of tat ? should be discussed on there, not on an art forum, unless it's being rightly slated. hey ho.
is there a forum for knock off's and fake bits of tat ? should be discussed on there, not on an art forum, unless it's being rightly slated. hey ho.
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 19:16:56 GMT 1, fake 1 (fk) adj. Having a false or misleading appearance; fraudulent. n. 1. One that is not authentic or genuine; a sham. 2. Sports A brief feint or aborted change of direction intended to mislead one's opponent or the opposing team. v. faked, fakยทing, fakes v.tr. 1. To contrive and present as genuine; counterfeit. 2. To simulate; feign. 3. Music To improvise (a passage). 4. Sports To deceive (an opponent) with a fake. Often used with out. v.intr. 1. To engage in feigning, simulation, or other deceptive activity. 2. Sports To perform a fake. think actually these do fall into the definition of fake. Your stamp on the back makes no difference. Not saying they are presenting them as originals. If you buy a copy Gucci Bag in Thailand or China they do not tell you it's original do they. the excuse that everyone is rich Banksy investors scared of these crap copies is just ridiculous. They don't give a s**t.....if that makes people happier buying then good luck but it ain't true. They have no effect on the price of Banksy's as say there effect is much lower down the food chain.....that is a fact so there not damaging Banksy or the Banksy Market but there is in all markets a total spend so it is damaging legitimate artists who are not selling as many as they might. It's not massive ย but small amounts make a difference to them individually as they are individuals
Your argument could also be used against you though as would you not agree that someone spending thousands on a Banksy could instead spend that money on buying from up and coming artists? Lots and lots of prints by up and coming artists.
It makes no sense to say that someone spending ยฃ60 is adversely affecting up and coming artists when we see people spending huge amounts of money on Banksys.
Many people will have to save very hard to buy a Banksy. I saved up thousands for my Dolk canvas and so had NO money available for any of the cheaper prints being released. I found myself in the situation where I gave myself a 'forced layoff' and missed countless drops by up and coming artists.
fake 1 (fk) adj. Having a false or misleading appearance; fraudulent. n. 1. One that is not authentic or genuine; a sham. 2. Sports A brief feint or aborted change of direction intended to mislead one's opponent or the opposing team. v. faked, fakยทing, fakes v.tr. 1. To contrive and present as genuine; counterfeit. 2. To simulate; feign. 3. Music To improvise (a passage). 4. Sports To deceive (an opponent) with a fake. Often used with out. v.intr. 1. To engage in feigning, simulation, or other deceptive activity. 2. Sports To perform a fake. think actually these do fall into the definition of fake. Your stamp on the back makes no difference. Not saying they are presenting them as originals. If you buy a copy Gucci Bag in Thailand or China they do not tell you it's original do they. the excuse that everyone is rich Banksy investors scared of these crap copies is just ridiculous. They don't give a s**t.....if that makes people happier buying then good luck but it ain't true. They have no effect on the price of Banksy's as say there effect is much lower down the food chain.....that is a fact so there not damaging Banksy or the Banksy Market but there is in all markets a total spend so it is damaging legitimate artists who are not selling as many as they might. It's not massive ย but small amounts make a difference to them individually as they are individuals Your argument could also be used against you though as would you not agree that someone spending thousands on a Banksy could instead spend that money on buying from up and coming artists? Lots and lots of prints by up and coming artists. It makes no sense to say that someone spending ยฃ60 is adversely affecting up and coming artists when we see people spending huge amounts of money on Banksys. Many people will have to save very hard to buy a Banksy. I saved up thousands for my Dolk canvas and so had NO money available for any of the cheaper prints being released. I found myself in the situation where I gave myself a 'forced layoff' and missed countless drops by up and coming artists.
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Oct 31, 2013 19:18:06 GMT 1, Just gonna be one of those topics where people will be divided on the effect of these prints. Not quite sure how you can prove for fact as you state that newer artist suffer, it wouldn't appear so as I have bought pieces from newer artists on many occasion this year as my posts on the show us you latest art buy will testify.
Should we put this to bed now?
Just gonna be one of those topics where people will be divided on the effect of these prints. Not quite sure how you can prove for fact as you state that newer artist suffer, it wouldn't appear so as I have bought pieces from newer artists on many occasion this year as my posts on the show us you latest art buy will testify.
Should we put this to bed now?
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 19:25:21 GMT 1, Just gonna be one of those topics where people will be divided on the effect of these prints. Not quite sure how you can prove for fact as you state that newer artist suffer, it wouldn't appear so as I have bought pieces from newer artists on many occasion this year as my posts on the show us you latest art buy will testify. Should we put this to bed now?
Yes please, I think people want to keep this running on and on though!
If I can see some proof that WCP sales are affecting some artist's sales then I'll change my stance.
Just gonna be one of those topics where people will be divided on the effect of these prints. Not quite sure how you can prove for fact as you state that newer artist suffer, it wouldn't appear so as I have bought pieces from newer artists on many occasion this year as my posts on the show us you latest art buy will testify. Should we put this to bed now? Yes please, I think people want to keep this running on and on though! If I can see some proof that WCP sales are affecting some artist's sales then I'll change my stance.
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johnnyh
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Art Wanted, by johnnyh on Oct 31, 2013 19:26:49 GMT 1, May be I do do that as well. So not sure your point is valid Ambo.
It's a bit like saying give all your money to this or that. Fakes/copies etc do effect genuine artists. I buy what I like whether big or small. But what I do not buy is these types of copies/fakes never have done whether I had money or didn't I just don't do it.
Anyway that's all from me. I have read the comments on this thread and not seen one logical and sensible justification for these. Read the investors are worried, there not fakes, if it wasn't these the money would be spent in I kea etc but none of it rings true.
As Nuart said an art forum is not the place for these things they should stay in the tat market or eBay and not be given any credence or acceptance in my view
May be I do do that as well. So not sure your point is valid Ambo.
It's a bit like saying give all your money to this or that. Fakes/copies etc do effect genuine artists. I buy what I like whether big or small. But what I do not buy is these types of copies/fakes never have done whether I had money or didn't I just don't do it.
Anyway that's all from me. I have read the comments on this thread and not seen one logical and sensible justification for these. Read the investors are worried, there not fakes, if it wasn't these the money would be spent in I kea etc but none of it rings true.
As Nuart said an art forum is not the place for these things they should stay in the tat market or eBay and not be given any credence or acceptance in my view
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 19:45:15 GMT 1, I think that's best yes, I'm out too.
I have not seen one logical argument against WCP so I guess it's a stale mate!
I've always got on well with you Johnnyh and enjoy your posts so there's no point falling out over something neither of us actually own!
I think that's best yes, I'm out too.
I have not seen one logical argument against WCP so I guess it's a stale mate!
I've always got on well with you Johnnyh and enjoy your posts so there's no point falling out over something neither of us actually own!
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iamzero
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Oct 31, 2013 19:46:00 GMT 1, And....... breathe. Not gonna group hug are we?
And....... breathe. Not gonna group hug are we?
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johnnyh
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Art Wanted, by johnnyh on Oct 31, 2013 20:06:57 GMT 1, I think that's best yes, I'm out too. I have not seen one logical argument against WCP so I guess it's a stale mate! I've always got on well with you Johnnyh and enjoy your posts so there's no point falling out over something neither of us actually own! No falling out chap all good fella as always.
mine is my opinion and respect yours etc.likewise Iamzro
cheers chaps
I think that's best yes, I'm out too. I have not seen one logical argument against WCP so I guess it's a stale mate! I've always got on well with you Johnnyh and enjoy your posts so there's no point falling out over something neither of us actually own! No falling out chap all good fella as always. mine is my opinion and respect yours etc.likewise Iamzro cheers chaps
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 20:08:49 GMT 1, I think that's best yes, I'm out too. I have not seen one logical argument against WCP so I guess it's a stale mate! I've always got on well with you Johnnyh and enjoy your posts so there's no point falling out over something neither of us actually own! No falling out chap all good fella as always. mine is my opinion and respect yours etc.likewise Iamzro cheers chaps
Ok so lets have an online group hug !!
Great Bast canvases by the way....I wonder if WCP does a copy of these JOKE JOKE IM JOKING ; )
I think that's best yes, I'm out too. I have not seen one logical argument against WCP so I guess it's a stale mate! I've always got on well with you Johnnyh and enjoy your posts so there's no point falling out over something neither of us actually own! No falling out chap all good fella as always. mine is my opinion and respect yours etc.likewise Iamzro cheers chaps Ok so lets have an online group hug !! Great Bast canvases by the way....I wonder if WCP does a copy of these JOKE JOKE IM JOKING ; )
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johnnyh
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Art Wanted, by johnnyh on Oct 31, 2013 20:13:40 GMT 1, Can stick it through my photo copier for you!!!
Can stick it through my photo copier for you!!!
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Snakes
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Art Wanted, by Snakes on Oct 31, 2013 21:17:21 GMT 1, If I can help the WCP trade up and move from Mitcham to Croydon I will buy the odd print off of him (or them if it is a collective like JBOY).
If I can help the WCP trade up and move from Mitcham to Croydon I will buy the odd print off of him (or them if it is a collective like JBOY).
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Manty
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Art Wanted, by Manty on Oct 31, 2013 21:53:29 GMT 1, If I can help the WCP trade up and move from Mitcham to Croydon I will buy the odd print off of him (or them if it is a collective like JBOY). i was brought up in Mitcham
Lucky boy me
If I can help the WCP trade up and move from Mitcham to Croydon I will buy the odd print off of him (or them if it is a collective like JBOY). i was brought up in Mitcham Lucky boy me
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