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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by Laugh Now 10 on Apr 8, 2018 18:26:58 GMT 1, just checked out all 5 pages of their upcoming βstreet art auctionβ and the verdict is: utter rubbish
just checked out all 5 pages of their upcoming βstreet art auctionβ and the verdict is: utter rubbish
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by yatyat on Apr 8, 2018 21:39:10 GMT 1,
Could we report this to the police? After reading all the relevant posts, I trust we already have enough evidence (pictures and dates) to show to the police this Invaderβs CCTV piece is stolen off the street of London. Therefore this should not be re-sold and made profit of, especially not at publicly known(?) auction house.
With this thief being arrested, others will be threatened and the auction houses will be more cautious, the circulation of the fakes and stolen in the market will be much lesser. This would not only protect our beloved artists but also our community and even ourselves in a longer run.
Just a wild thought, am I being too naive? π
Could we report this to the police? After reading all the relevant posts, I trust we already have enough evidence (pictures and dates) to show to the police this Invaderβs CCTV piece is stolen off the street of London. Therefore this should not be re-sold and made profit of, especially not at publicly known(?) auction house. With this thief being arrested, others will be threatened and the auction houses will be more cautious, the circulation of the fakes and stolen in the market will be much lesser. This would not only protect our beloved artists but also our community and even ourselves in a longer run. Just a wild thought, am I being too naive? π
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by Fake on Apr 8, 2018 22:40:16 GMT 1, Could we report this to the police? After reading all the relevant posts, I trust we already have enough evidence (pictures and dates) to show to the police this Invaderβs CCTV piece is stolen off the street of London. Therefore this should not be re-sold and made profit of, especially not at publicly known(?) auction house. With this thief being arrested, others will be threatened and the auction houses will be more cautious, the circulation of the fakes and stolen in the market will be much lesser. This would not only protect our beloved artists but also our community and even ourselves in a longer run. Just a wild thought, am I being too naive? π
Could we report this to the police? After reading all the relevant posts, I trust we already have enough evidence (pictures and dates) to show to the police this Invaderβs CCTV piece is stolen off the street of London. Therefore this should not be re-sold and made profit of, especially not at publicly known(?) auction house. With this thief being arrested, others will be threatened and the auction houses will be more cautious, the circulation of the fakes and stolen in the market will be much lesser. This would not only protect our beloved artists but also our community and even ourselves in a longer run. Just a wild thought, am I being too naive? π
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by JJN on Apr 9, 2018 7:55:20 GMT 1,
This !
1 of most useful posts I've seen on UAA.
Amazing thorough work and thank you.
Thanks met. Very interesting & useful post. In that 2017 thread posted, there was a clear case of a forgery sold by Julien's Auctions as a Ban ksy street piece. It was first pointed out by jig5aw with supporting photographic evidence. That fake still ended up going for $57,600. Rather unfortunate for the buyer. __________ Since concrete examples are always helpful, let's try another case study, this time selected from works in Julien's current Street and Urban Art Auction (#3201) on 2 May 2018: 1. Here's one piece being sold as a Keith Haring: www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/258/lot/101801/ Is there any provenance information offered, details about chain of title? No, not in the lot description. None whatsoever. It seems buyers just have to take Julien's word for it that the piece was "Executed by Keith Haring on a New York City subway sign from the Freeman Street station in the Bronx."2. So what does a potential buyer do if they're a bit nervous about having zero proof of a work's authenticity, and zero details about its history? Well, perhaps no such information is actually required. Yes, the piece could easily have been faked. And yes, it's being sold for thousands of dollars. But maybe blind faith is sufficient to make up for the evidence shortfall. Blind faith in the professionalism, honesty and integrity of the auction house. That's certainly one option. It might be attractive as well because it's easy: Just shut your eyes, shut your mouth, and hope for the best. Another option would be to go on eB ay to search the completed listings. 3. And, strangely enough, this piece was recently sold on eB ay β for $3,650.00 on 25 October 2017 β under the listing title 'Keith Haring drawing on NYC Subway sign': www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Keith-Haring-drawing-on-NYC-Subway-sign/253214509684 The Spain-based seller has the user ID tritinium and their listing description said the following: "I've taken several photos in different angles so you can see the texture and surface, drawing over subway sign, ca 30x17'5cm, magnificent artwork attributed to Keith Haring, independent appraisement included.
Keith Haring is considered with Andy Warhol, Roy Lichtenstein or Basquiat one of the best artist of the 20th"4. This sale was accompanied by an appraisal from Taxo ValoraciΓ³n S.L. in Valencia. An appraisal is by no means a claim of authenticity, but it does suggest authenticity, doesn't it? Headed notepaper from a proper company. A beautiful language I cannot read. A few nice images added. Already I feel reassured.   Google Translate (Spanish to English) is a bit rough around the edges but helpful nevertheless: "Appraiser's observations
Analysis: Unsigned and dated work attributed to the American artist Keith Haring (1958-1990). Royal New York subway sign (Freeman Street) with white marker drawing located in the lower right corner. Image made schematically with a single character in a dance position that holds a heart. Characteristic style of Haring that uses a fast stroke to realize a figure lacking in human details and surrounded by small lines that bring dynamism to the scene.
The data entered by the client have been considered true and valid without physical or documentary verification of the same."[I was comforted too by what looks like an art-valuation special offer on Taxo's website: "ART VALUATION β Get to know the value of any artistic object thanks to our online tool for only 29.99β¬."If anyone's interested, for a reasonable fee, the company is also available for business valuations, boat valuations, and to appraise your furniture or jewellery.]5. Coming back to the eB ay sale, it turns out to have been a private listing. And it somehow received 111 bids. Make of this what you will: www.ebay.co.uk/bfl/viewbids/253214509684?item=253214509684&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565 6. Besides the eB ay provenance having been omitted from Julien's lot description, other points are worthy of mention. Those skilled at playing Spot the difference will have noticed at least a couple of changes occurred in the 5-month interval between the eB ay sale and the consignment with Julien's: (i) the subway sign was christened with a sexy new name β Dancing Man with Radiant Heart; and (ii) the subway sign's status curiously evolved β from a cautious or cagey "artwork attributed to Keith Haring" to an unambiguous and definitive "Executed by Keith Haring". 7. Now, where did the eB ayer tritinium get the piece? Did they create it themselves, or acquire it from elsewhere? A Google search for "Keith Haring Freeman St sign" brings up this Pure Evil Gallery Facebook post from 20 April 2014, referencing a then-recently-purchased sign from eB ay:  Unfortunately, that post no longer includes the original accompanying image. Could the 'Keith Haring - Freeman St subway sign' be the same as the one currently at Julien's? Perhaps Pure Evil may be able to assist here. If this is the same piece which ended up back on the market, it looks to have been one of the purchases made by Pure Ev il earlier in 2014 from the infamous (and apparently still-active) Warhol / Haring fraudster in SkΓ₯ne, Sweden β Patrick Maske / Robert Hilmersson / Michael Kadaz / bobinga33 / triplex234 / bleca-meca: news.artnet.com/market/online-trove-of-haring-and-warhol-works-fake-experts-say-44008www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/features/the-great-online-art-illusion-a-cautionary-tale-9585690.htmlwww.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/lurades-kopa-forfalskningar-for-400-000-kronor8. But whatever the source of the Freeman Street subway sign, I would advise against bidding at Julien's Auctions.
This ! 1 of most useful posts I've seen on UAA. Amazing thorough work and thank you. Thanks met. Very interesting & useful post. In that 2017 thread posted, there was a clear case of a forgery sold by Julien's Auctions as a Ban ksy street piece. It was first pointed out by jig5aw with supporting photographic evidence. That fake still ended up going for $57,600. Rather unfortunate for the buyer. __________ Since concrete examples are always helpful, let's try another case study, this time selected from works in Julien's current Street and Urban Art Auction (#3201) on 2 May 2018: 1. Here's one piece being sold as a Keith Haring: www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/258/lot/101801/Is there any provenance information offered, details about chain of title? No, not in the lot description. None whatsoever. It seems buyers just have to take Julien's word for it that the piece was "Executed by Keith Haring on a New York City subway sign from the Freeman Street station in the Bronx."2. So what does a potential buyer do if they're a bit nervous about having zero proof of a work's authenticity, and zero details about its history? Well, perhaps no such information is actually required. Yes, the piece could easily have been faked. And yes, it's being sold for thousands of dollars. But maybe blind faith is sufficient to make up for the evidence shortfall. Blind faith in the professionalism, honesty and integrity of the auction house. That's certainly one option. It might be attractive as well because it's easy: Just shut your eyes, shut your mouth, and hope for the best. Another option would be to go on eB ay to search the completed listings. 3. And, strangely enough, this piece was recently sold on eB ay β for $3,650.00 on 25 October 2017 β under the listing title 'Keith Haring drawing on NYC Subway sign': www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Keith-Haring-drawing-on-NYC-Subway-sign/253214509684The Spain-based seller has the user ID tritinium and their listing description said the following: "I've taken several photos in different angles so you can see the texture and surface, drawing over subway sign, ca 30x17'5cm, magnificent artwork attributed to Keith Haring, independent appraisement included.
Keith Haring is considered with Andy Warhol, Roy Lichtenstein or Basquiat one of the best artist of the 20th"4. This sale was accompanied by an appraisal from Taxo ValoraciΓ³n S.L. in Valencia. An appraisal is by no means a claim of authenticity, but it does suggest authenticity, doesn't it? Headed notepaper from a proper company. A beautiful language I cannot read. A few nice images added. Already I feel reassured. Google Translate (Spanish to English) is a bit rough around the edges but helpful nevertheless: "Appraiser's observations
Analysis: Unsigned and dated work attributed to the American artist Keith Haring (1958-1990). Royal New York subway sign (Freeman Street) with white marker drawing located in the lower right corner. Image made schematically with a single character in a dance position that holds a heart. Characteristic style of Haring that uses a fast stroke to realize a figure lacking in human details and surrounded by small lines that bring dynamism to the scene.
The data entered by the client have been considered true and valid without physical or documentary verification of the same."[I was comforted too by what looks like an art-valuation special offer on Taxo's website: "ART VALUATION β Get to know the value of any artistic object thanks to our online tool for only 29.99β¬."If anyone's interested, for a reasonable fee, the company is also available for business valuations, boat valuations, and to appraise your furniture or jewellery.]5. Coming back to the eB ay sale, it turns out to have been a private listing. And it somehow received 111 bids. Make of this what you will: www.ebay.co.uk/bfl/viewbids/253214509684?item=253214509684&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l25656. Besides the eB ay provenance having been omitted from Julien's lot description, other points are worthy of mention. Those skilled at playing Spot the difference will have noticed at least a couple of changes occurred in the 5-month interval between the eB ay sale and the consignment with Julien's: (i) the subway sign was christened with a sexy new name β Dancing Man with Radiant Heart; and (ii) the subway sign's status curiously evolved β from a cautious or cagey "artwork attributed to Keith Haring" to an unambiguous and definitive "Executed by Keith Haring". 7. Now, where did the eB ayer tritinium get the piece? Did they create it themselves, or acquire it from elsewhere? A Google search for "Keith Haring Freeman St sign" brings up this Pure Evil Gallery Facebook post from 20 April 2014, referencing a then-recently-purchased sign from eB ay: Unfortunately, that post no longer includes the original accompanying image. Could the 'Keith Haring - Freeman St subway sign' be the same as the one currently at Julien's? Perhaps Pure Evil may be able to assist here. If this is the same piece which ended up back on the market, it looks to have been one of the purchases made by Pure Ev il earlier in 2014 from the infamous (and apparently still-active) Warhol / Haring fraudster in SkΓ₯ne, Sweden β Patrick Maske / Robert Hilmersson / Michael Kadaz / bobinga33 / triplex234 / bleca-meca: news.artnet.com/market/online-trove-of-haring-and-warhol-works-fake-experts-say-44008www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/features/the-great-online-art-illusion-a-cautionary-tale-9585690.htmlwww.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/lurades-kopa-forfalskningar-for-400-000-kronor8. But whatever the source of the Freeman Street subway sign, I would advise against bidding at Julien's Auctions. |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by Shoeless on Apr 9, 2018 15:52:11 GMT 1, I see plenty of reasons to be cautious when buying from them, but what about selling or using results as valuation guide?
I see plenty of reasons to be cautious when buying from them, but what about selling or using results as valuation guide?
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by Pattycakes on Apr 9, 2018 18:00:03 GMT 1, I see plenty of reasons to be cautious when buying from them, but what about selling or using results as valuation guide?
I see plenty of reasons to be cautious when buying from them, but what about selling or using results as valuation guide? Selling? Who knows but is it really worth the risk. And as for a valuation guide since they are mostly selling fakes and stuff stolen from the street how exactly is that information useful anyway? There are plenty of decent auction houses out there that will give you better information in terms of guide to secondary market value why bother with someone who has question marks over them? |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by sfnyc on Oct 24, 2018 5:56:23 GMT 1, I just received the Julien's Auctions email for their upcoming Street and Contemporary Auction (November 14th 2018) and not surprisingly again it is full of fake works...
www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2018/street-and-contemporary-art/Street%20and%20Contemporary%20Art%20Flipping%20Book/
In the past I tried to speak with them to educate them on fake works they listed (as many others here tried as well I believe) to only hear them use various excuses to not remove the fake works from the auction. Now again, in the promotional email teaser alone (I didn't event bother clicking the full catalog after that) I see fake Keith Harings, fake Basquiats, fake Invader works...
Anyone knows how come they dont have their auction license removed and criminal charges filed already after operating like this for years?
I just received the Julien's Auctions email for their upcoming Street and Contemporary Auction (November 14th 2018) and not surprisingly again it is full of fake works... www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2018/street-and-contemporary-art/Street%20and%20Contemporary%20Art%20Flipping%20Book/In the past I tried to speak with them to educate them on fake works they listed (as many others here tried as well I believe) to only hear them use various excuses to not remove the fake works from the auction. Now again, in the promotional email teaser alone (I didn't event bother clicking the full catalog after that) I see fake Keith Harings, fake Basquiats, fake Invader works... Anyone knows how come they dont have their auction license removed and criminal charges filed already after operating like this for years? |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by mushi on Oct 24, 2018 6:08:58 GMT 1, I guess the same apply to Ebay,digital auction, as Julien's, physical auction : all responsability on the buyer.
"He should know what he buy, we are a selling platform, not an expertise center" This would be the answer of minor auction houses and all digital auction platforms.
Of course major houses have their own experts.
I guess the same apply to Ebay,digital auction, as Julien's, physical auction : all responsability on the buyer.
"He should know what he buy, we are a selling platform, not an expertise center" This would be the answer of minor auction houses and all digital auction platforms.
Of course major houses have their own experts.
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by russkov on Oct 24, 2018 9:48:15 GMT 1, Let's list what's not fake then, that shall go faster...
Let's list what's not fake then, that shall go faster...
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by Pattycakes on Oct 24, 2018 10:46:09 GMT 1, In a word. Yes.
In a word. Yes.
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by djtoine on Oct 24, 2018 12:43:34 GMT 1, Let's list what's not fake then, that shall go faster...
Fake or stolen...
So many Invader pieces stolen sold by them π±π€’
Let's list what's not fake then, that shall go faster... Fake or stolen... So many Invader pieces stolen sold by them π±π€’ |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by hnkpnk on Oct 24, 2018 16:21:56 GMT 1, This one is so bad it is funny.
Must be a bit offending for Banksy that people and even auction houses believe he would have made and released it.
This one is so bad it is funny. Must be a bit offending for Banksy that people and even auction houses believe he would have made and released it. |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by Happy Shopper on Oct 24, 2018 16:42:13 GMT 1, This one is so bad it is funny. Must be a bit offending for Banksy that people and even auction houses believe he would have made and released it.
"Hand done acrylic".... "done"!? Is that a technical term? 
This one is so bad it is funny. Must be a bit offending for Banksy that people and even auction houses believe he would have made and released it. "Hand done acrylic".... "done"!? Is that a technical term? |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by Adam The Collector on Oct 24, 2018 17:52:21 GMT 1, "I Choose You Pikachu!"
"I Choose You Pikachu!"
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by soam24 on Oct 24, 2018 20:45:19 GMT 1,
"choose your pokemon"
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by soam24 on Oct 24, 2018 22:26:24 GMT 1, Requested a condition report on the retna and a few banksy's.
Let's just say you probably shouldn't bid on them unless you want some damage.
Requested a condition report on the retna and a few banksy's.
Let's just say you probably shouldn't bid on them unless you want some damage.
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by qest on Oct 24, 2018 22:37:58 GMT 1, Buyer Beware. Pretty clear in their terms and conditions: "Julienβs Auctions warrants the authenticity of Attribution (as defined below) of property listed in the catalogue or online as stated in the Attribution Warranty in Section 8 below. Except for the Attribution Warranty, all property is sold
βAs Isβ. We make no warranties, nor does the
Consignor, as to the merchantability or fitness for a
particular purpose, the correctness of the catalogue or
other description of the physical condition, size, quality,
rarity, importance, medium, provenance, exhibitions,
literature or historical relevance of any property. No oral or written statements made in the catalogue, online listing, advertisement, Condition Report, bill of sale, and announcement or elsewhere made by employees (including affiliated and related companies) shall be considered a warranty. We and the Consignor make no representations and warranties, express or implied, as to whether the purchaser acquires any Intellectual Property Rights, including but not limited to, any reproduction rights of any property. We and the Consignor are not responsible for errors and omissions in the catalogue, online listings or any other supplemental material"
"Buyer beware" does not extend to cases of fraud. But their Attribution Warranty indicates that there is (very) limited coverage if the piece's attribution is incorrect.
Buyer Beware. Pretty clear in their terms and conditions: "Julienβs Auctions warrants the authenticity of Attribution (as defined below) of property listed in the catalogue or online as stated in the Attribution Warranty in Section 8 below. Except for the Attribution Warranty, all property is sold
βAs Isβ. We make no warranties, nor does the
Consignor, as to the merchantability or fitness for a
particular purpose, the correctness of the catalogue or
other description of the physical condition, size, quality,
rarity, importance, medium, provenance, exhibitions,
literature or historical relevance of any property. No oral or written statements made in the catalogue, online listing, advertisement, Condition Report, bill of sale, and announcement or elsewhere made by employees (including affiliated and related companies) shall be considered a warranty. We and the Consignor make no representations and warranties, express or implied, as to whether the purchaser acquires any Intellectual Property Rights, including but not limited to, any reproduction rights of any property. We and the Consignor are not responsible for errors and omissions in the catalogue, online listings or any other supplemental material" "Buyer beware" does not extend to cases of fraud. But their Attribution Warranty indicates that there is (very) limited coverage if the piece's attribution is incorrect. |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by Adam The Collector on Oct 24, 2018 23:18:44 GMT 1, Just a rule of thumb, NEVER TRUST AN AUCTION HOUSE! Be diligent and do your own research and go to un-biased third parties for help!
Just a rule of thumb, NEVER TRUST AN AUCTION HOUSE! Be diligent and do your own research and go to un-biased third parties for help!
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by 1970hopper on Oct 24, 2018 23:31:23 GMT 1, This is the guy that runs Juliens Street Art Auctions. Direct all your questions to him.
Mitch Kaba Β· Property Specialist
mitchell@juliensauctions.com
Raised in a family of antique collectors, Mitchell Kaba early on developed a passion for historical objects. When his friends were spending their money on candy and video games, Mitchell was investing in first issue comics. His fascination for history and culture later inspired him to live in such diverse locals as New York, Seattle, Los Angeles, Alaska, Bangkok and Istanbul. Along the way he honed his skills as a researcher through work on various projects, including curating rare books to recreate the Antarctic library of explorer R.F. Scott for The Museum of Natural History. Mitchell is a graduate of the appraisal studies program at NYU and has successfully completed the USPAP course and exam, highlighting the Congressionally recognized set of appraisal standards promulgated by the Appraisal Foundation. His specialties include fine and decorative art, prints, books, photographs, acetate films and audio recordings.
This is the guy that runs Juliens Street Art Auctions. Direct all your questions to him. Mitch Kaba Β· Property Specialist mitchell@juliensauctions.com Raised in a family of antique collectors, Mitchell Kaba early on developed a passion for historical objects. When his friends were spending their money on candy and video games, Mitchell was investing in first issue comics. His fascination for history and culture later inspired him to live in such diverse locals as New York, Seattle, Los Angeles, Alaska, Bangkok and Istanbul. Along the way he honed his skills as a researcher through work on various projects, including curating rare books to recreate the Antarctic library of explorer R.F. Scott for The Museum of Natural History. Mitchell is a graduate of the appraisal studies program at NYU and has successfully completed the USPAP course and exam, highlighting the Congressionally recognized set of appraisal standards promulgated by the Appraisal Foundation. His specialties include fine and decorative art, prints, books, photographs, acetate films and audio recordings. |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by WOOF on Oct 24, 2018 23:49:54 GMT 1, Have a look at what was sent for the provenance for the two KAWS drawings Thank you for your interest in Auction 3214 In response to your inquiry concerning lots: 46 + 47 These lots are not accompanied by any provenance. Let me know if you have any further questions or if I can be of additional assistance.   
I mean, at least they're upfront about it.
Have a look at what was sent for the provenance for the two KAWS drawings Thank you for your interest in Auction 3214 In response to your inquiry concerning lots: 46 + 47 These lots are not accompanied by any provenance. Let me know if you have any further questions or if I can be of additional assistance. I mean, at least they're upfront about it. |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by kuni on Oct 25, 2018 1:15:49 GMT 1, I really like that Paul Insect canvas. Nice piece.
I really like that Paul Insect canvas. Nice piece.
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by 1970hopper on Oct 25, 2018 8:28:31 GMT 1, Have a look at what was sent for the provenance for the two KAWS drawings Thank you for your interest in Auction 3214 In response to your inquiry concerning lots: 46 + 47 These lots are not accompanied by any provenance. Let me know if you have any further questions or if I can be of additional assistance. I mean, at least they're upfront about it.
On other more expensive lots they pulled the old get out of jail card
PRIVATE COLLECTION
Have a look at what was sent for the provenance for the two KAWS drawings Thank you for your interest in Auction 3214 In response to your inquiry concerning lots: 46 + 47 These lots are not accompanied by any provenance. Let me know if you have any further questions or if I can be of additional assistance. I mean, at least they're upfront about it. Well yes and no. How can they say KAWS drawings when they have no provenance. On other more expensive lots they pulled the old get out of jail card PRIVATE COLLECTION |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by shy on Oct 25, 2018 8:46:47 GMT 1, When something looks too good to be true it usually is!
There are many online auction houses selling fake art that is "attributed to" or in "in the manner of" famous artists.
Don't get conned. As appealing as these may be... they are fakes and scams
When something looks too good to be true it usually is!
There are many online auction houses selling fake art that is "attributed to" or in "in the manner of" famous artists.
Don't get conned. As appealing as these may be... they are fakes and scams
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by heller on Nov 2, 2018 19:45:30 GMT 1, It does seem odd that his print release in the LA Area this week is the same as one of the Originals in the Auction. Lot 131. Lucky Coincidence?
I also contacted them for condition reports and they where prompt and gave a detailed condition report.
Invader on his website clearly states works removed from the street are not signed nor will be they be authenticated. Would prefer to still be able to enjoy them on the street. Soon people will be re-creating these works, going back to the original locations re-photo them being removed and sending them off to auction..... There is really no difference???
It does seem odd that his print release in the LA Area this week is the same as one of the Originals in the Auction. Lot 131. Lucky Coincidence? I also contacted them for condition reports and they where prompt and gave a detailed condition report. Invader on his website clearly states works removed from the street are not signed nor will be they be authenticated. Would prefer to still be able to enjoy them on the street. Soon people will be re-creating these works, going back to the original locations re-photo them being removed and sending them off to auction..... There is really no difference??? |
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Julian's Auctions πΊπ², by barsukauk on Mar 17, 2019 8:53:29 GMT 1, Those ones they do the same
Selling fakes in the-saleroom and invaluable
CLOWES NASH AUCTIONS LTD
www.cna-ltd.com
The Homelands, London Rd, Morley St. Peter, Wymondham, Norfolk, NR18 9ST
Those ones they do the same Selling fakes in the-saleroom and invaluable CLOWES NASH AUCTIONS LTD www.cna-ltd.comThe Homelands, London Rd, Morley St. Peter, Wymondham, Norfolk, NR18 9ST |
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