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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Art Fan 2011 on Mar 9, 2016 21:38:19 GMT 1, Does anyone know what the shipping cost to the UK is and any likely import taxes/costs? I've purchased a few prints for the US in the past, some I've been taxed on, some not. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason to taxes being added.
20% of $300 plus £12 handling fee - so in this case a fair chunk of cash!
Does anyone know what the shipping cost to the UK is and any likely import taxes/costs? I've purchased a few prints for the US in the past, some I've been taxed on, some not. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason to taxes being added. 20% of $300 plus £12 handling fee - so in this case a fair chunk of cash! |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 21:42:01 GMT 1, The painting looks great. Is it a pre sale, as the site says expect to wait 6 weeks for printing and delivery?
If it's a timed release when do they start a print run?
The painting looks great. Is it a pre sale, as the site says expect to wait 6 weeks for printing and delivery?
If it's a timed release when do they start a print run?
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by chichi carter on Mar 9, 2016 21:45:22 GMT 1, The painting looks great. Is it a pre sale, as the site says expect to wait 6 weeks for printing and delivery? If it's a timed release when do they start a print run?
The painting looks great. Is it a pre sale, as the site says expect to wait 6 weeks for printing and delivery? If it's a timed release when do they start a print run? Once the time runs out and they know exactly how many people bought it. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 21:49:43 GMT 1, The painting looks great. Is it a pre sale, as the site says expect to wait 6 weeks for printing and delivery? If it's a timed release when do they start a print run? Once the time runs out and they know exactly how many people bought it.
Do many artists or galleries who sell editions do the same?
The painting looks great. Is it a pre sale, as the site says expect to wait 6 weeks for printing and delivery? If it's a timed release when do they start a print run? Once the time runs out and they know exactly how many people bought it. It's a good way of doing business I guess. Getting buyers to pay for everything up front. Do many artists or galleries who sell editions do the same? |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by chichi carter on Mar 9, 2016 21:52:57 GMT 1, First of all: arguing the difference between timed edition and open edition does not change the foundation of the arguments here. at some point even open editions get taken down/stopped being printed (ex: Shep does it all the time). Any open edition is a long timed edition unless your print forever. Fact of the matter is that there is the possibility for an unlimited number of people to obtain it... ...which leads me to my second of all: they are trying to create artificial exclusivity. Every other print of hers selling out instantly has literally nothing to do with exclusivity of this one. They sell out instantly because there are a large number of buyers and very few items. (25 for the basel example since that was mentioned) They do an open edition to give everyone a chance, yet set the price high enough that large number of people can't justify it (this thread: prime example). That's attempting to create some sort of exclusivity for a print who's very nature shouldn't be. Love SC's art, I think it's original and the quality of her giclees really is superb, but I can't fathom how anybody doesn't see the price as distasteful.
First of all: arguing the difference between timed edition and open edition does not change the foundation of the arguments here. at some point even open editions get taken down/stopped being printed (ex: Shep does it all the time). Any open edition is a long timed edition unless your print forever. Fact of the matter is that there is the possibility for an unlimited number of people to obtain it... ...which leads me to my second of all: they are trying to create artificial exclusivity. Every other print of hers selling out instantly has literally nothing to do with exclusivity of this one. They sell out instantly because there are a large number of buyers and very few items. (25 for the basel example since that was mentioned) They do an open edition to give everyone a chance, yet set the price high enough that large number of people can't justify it (this thread: prime example). That's attempting to create some sort of exclusivity for a print who's very nature shouldn't be. Love SC's art, I think it's original and the quality of her giclees really is superb, but I can't fathom how anybody doesn't see the price as distasteful. Even if they stop printing an open edition, it will never be numbered. In the case of a timed edition even if an unlimited amount of people can obtain it (in this case within 72 hours) there will be a limited amount of prints once that window closes and they will be numbered. It's not an argument, it's a fact. I really don't see how 'they are trying to create artificial exclusivity'. A timed release is pretty inclusive. Everybody has a chance to grab it. Whether the price tag is 'inclusive' or not is debatable. But debating it won't change a thing though. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by maurice8601 on Mar 9, 2016 21:54:15 GMT 1, Does anyone know what the shipping cost to the UK is and any likely import taxes/costs? I've purchased a few prints for the US in the past, some I've been taxed on, some not. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason to taxes being added. 20% of $300 plus £12 handling fee - so in this case a fair chunk of cash!
Shit the bed! Around £300 delivered, then framing costs of course.
Too much for me I'm afraid.
Does anyone know what the shipping cost to the UK is and any likely import taxes/costs? I've purchased a few prints for the US in the past, some I've been taxed on, some not. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason to taxes being added. 20% of $300 plus £12 handling fee - so in this case a fair chunk of cash! Shit the bed! Around £300 delivered, then framing costs of course. Too much for me I'm afraid. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Aza on Mar 9, 2016 21:56:22 GMT 1, Actually the tax into the UK is 5% for art.
Actually the tax into the UK is 5% for art.
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 9, 2016 21:59:53 GMT 1, For originals or editions its 0% you can claim it back. There's a form on the HMRC website
For originals or editions its 0% you can claim it back. There's a form on the HMRC website
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Art Fan 2011 on Mar 9, 2016 22:28:26 GMT 1, This is neither an original or a hand pulled screen print - not sure you would be able to claim the tax back on what is essentially a mass produced glorified poster! Could be wrong though!
This is neither an original or a hand pulled screen print - not sure you would be able to claim the tax back on what is essentially a mass produced glorified poster! Could be wrong though!
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by soulseeker on Mar 9, 2016 22:54:20 GMT 1, Yep - it will be a 20% VAT charge on this one as it's giclee print and therefore doesn't fall into the categories that attract a reduced VAT charge. Also, VAT is payable on the total cost - that is the actual print and shipping cost combined. Delivery fee varies depending on who delivers - UPS is around £12, post office less. Anyway that's what customs told me on numerous occasions when I tried to claim back 
Yep - it will be a 20% VAT charge on this one as it's giclee print and therefore doesn't fall into the categories that attract a reduced VAT charge. Also, VAT is payable on the total cost - that is the actual print and shipping cost combined. Delivery fee varies depending on who delivers - UPS is around £12, post office less. Anyway that's what customs told me on numerous occasions when I tried to claim back |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Feral Things on Mar 9, 2016 22:55:27 GMT 1, There's already enough sexploitation in the comic book industry. 
Admittedly, I've never had any interest in Sandra Chevrier's work but is it just me or does her choice of models not largely undermine what her work is supposed to conceptually be about?
There's already enough sexploitation in the comic book industry. I remember hearing several years ago that when the great American comic-book artists Marie Severin interviewed for a job at Disney they didn't even open her portfolio and just told that Disney don't hire women, and you've gotta think that Gentileschi would be a household name like Caravaggio if she hadn't made the mistake of being born a women. I appreciate it's not the 17th century anymore, or even the 1950's, but I think a lot of the Guerrilla Girls' points from the 1980s are still depressingly valid. Admittedly, I've never had any interest in Sandra Chevrier's work but is it just me or does her choice of models not largely undermine what her work is supposed to conceptually be about? |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 9, 2016 23:06:03 GMT 1, noticed before some possible testing of the market with price rises before Basel and stuff like that. I recon this could be a similar thing, not a cash grab but forward looking. is it just a good way to crystallise the size of her market right now and then inform commercials for future releases and shows maybe?nshe has a lot scheduled!
noticed before some possible testing of the market with price rises before Basel and stuff like that. I recon this could be a similar thing, not a cash grab but forward looking. is it just a good way to crystallise the size of her market right now and then inform commercials for future releases and shows maybe?nshe has a lot scheduled!
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 9, 2016 23:12:31 GMT 1, It definitely is nice to just go to a site a bag the print if you want it! Sure that will drive lots of sales! I was almost tempted as it was soo easy, and that's kinda novel.
Didn't though. It's mainly the unknown edition size for me.
It definitely is nice to just go to a site a bag the print if you want it! Sure that will drive lots of sales! I was almost tempted as it was soo easy, and that's kinda novel.
Didn't though. It's mainly the unknown edition size for me.
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by greenpoint on Mar 10, 2016 4:50:45 GMT 1, I have the pdf of her Hong Kong show if anyone wants it. Prices went up!!!
I have the pdf of her Hong Kong show if anyone wants it. Prices went up!!!
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by greenpoint on Mar 11, 2016 21:52:20 GMT 1, Edition of 344
Edition of 344
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Art Fan 2011 on Mar 11, 2016 22:32:38 GMT 1,
Alot less than one would expected from a timed edition, seems the price did put many off!
Alot less than one would expected from a timed edition, seems the price did put many off! |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 11, 2016 22:34:48 GMT 1, Alot less than one would expected from a timed edition, seems the price did put many off!
Maybe the image too?
Alot less than one would expected from a timed edition, seems the price did put many off! Maybe the image too? |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Poster Bob on Mar 11, 2016 22:47:02 GMT 1, You can hype it as much as you want but there is a severely limited market for IKEA quality graphic art.
You can hype it as much as you want but there is a severely limited market for IKEA quality graphic art.
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 11, 2016 23:08:40 GMT 1, They did price it as though it was a limited editon screen print which was bullish in hindsight lol, but I think if it was a different image like one of the new Maralins, it would of done 1k+.
This image is very green, not a popular colour in prints, and a different composition to her other images that are iconic. But I think that's why they chose this as the open edition maybe?
That being said, I would have bought it at a 100 editon size.
They did price it as though it was a limited editon screen print which was bullish in hindsight lol, but I think if it was a different image like one of the new Maralins, it would of done 1k+.
This image is very green, not a popular colour in prints, and a different composition to her other images that are iconic. But I think that's why they chose this as the open edition maybe?
That being said, I would have bought it at a 100 editon size.
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Poster Bob on Mar 11, 2016 23:34:03 GMT 1, An "iconic" Chevrier print? She's been around doing this BS for what 2 years? That term is thrown around far too much on this forum without any regard to its meaning.
They did price it as though it was a limited editon screen print which was bullish in hindsight lol, but I think if it was a different image like one of the new Maralins, it would of done 1k+. This image is very green, not a popular colour in prints, and a different composition to her other images that are iconic. But I think that's why they chose this as the open edition maybe? That being said, I would have bought it at a 100 editon size.
An "iconic" Chevrier print? She's been around doing this BS for what 2 years? That term is thrown around far too much on this forum without any regard to its meaning. They did price it as though it was a limited editon screen print which was bullish in hindsight lol, but I think if it was a different image like one of the new Maralins, it would of done 1k+. This image is very green, not a popular colour in prints, and a different composition to her other images that are iconic. But I think that's why they chose this as the open edition maybe? That being said, I would have bought it at a 100 editon size. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 11, 2016 23:38:47 GMT 1, An "iconic" Chevrier print? She's been around doing this BS for what 2 years? That term is thrown around far too much on this forum without any regard to its meaning. They did price it as though it was a limited editon screen print which was bullish in hindsight lol, but I think if it was a different image like one of the new Maralins, it would of done 1k+. This image is very green, not a popular colour in prints, and a different composition to her other images that are iconic. But I think that's why they chose this as the open edition maybe? That being said, I would have bought it at a 100 editon size.
I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic.
An "iconic" Chevrier print? She's been around doing this BS for what 2 years? That term is thrown around far too much on this forum without any regard to its meaning. They did price it as though it was a limited editon screen print which was bullish in hindsight lol, but I think if it was a different image like one of the new Maralins, it would of done 1k+. This image is very green, not a popular colour in prints, and a different composition to her other images that are iconic. But I think that's why they chose this as the open edition maybe? That being said, I would have bought it at a 100 editon size. I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 11, 2016 23:41:41 GMT 1, An "iconic" Chevrier print? She's been around doing this BS for what 2 years? That term is thrown around far too much on this forum without any regard to its meaning. I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic.
She's not Damien Hirst no. But nobodies saying that.
An "iconic" Chevrier print? She's been around doing this BS for what 2 years? That term is thrown around far too much on this forum without any regard to its meaning. I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic. She's not Damien Hirst no. But nobodies saying that. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Poster Bob on Mar 11, 2016 23:43:54 GMT 1, It sounds like you just googled a term you can't explain. Iconic in art means signature image. Mention Warhol and people see Marilyn and soup cans, mention Hirst and people see dots, mention Chevrier and those who are aware of her work just see the same old bullshit regurgitated ad fucking nauseum to the benefit of Deranged's wallet.
An "iconic" Chevrier print? She's been around doing this BS for what 2 years? That term is thrown around far too much on this forum without any regard to its meaning. I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic.
It sounds like you just googled a term you can't explain. Iconic in art means signature image. Mention Warhol and people see Marilyn and soup cans, mention Hirst and people see dots, mention Chevrier and those who are aware of her work just see the same old bullshit regurgitated ad fucking nauseum to the benefit of Deranged's wallet. An "iconic" Chevrier print? She's been around doing this BS for what 2 years? That term is thrown around far too much on this forum without any regard to its meaning. I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by phoj on Mar 11, 2016 23:46:21 GMT 1, My faith is a bit restored. I consider an edition of 344 a cashgrab failure
My faith is a bit restored. I consider an edition of 344 a cashgrab failure |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 11, 2016 23:46:50 GMT 1, It sounds like you just googled a term you can't explain. Iconic in art means signature image. Mention Warhol and people see Marilyn and soup cans, mention Hirst and people see dots, mention Chevrier and those who are aware of her work just see the same old bulls**t regurgitated ad f**king nauseum to the benefit of Deranged's wallet. I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic.
It's not my second language. I don't have to google it.
Buy a dictionary. Warhol isn't mentioned under that word I guarantee it.
It sounds like you just googled a term you can't explain. Iconic in art means signature image. Mention Warhol and people see Marilyn and soup cans, mention Hirst and people see dots, mention Chevrier and those who are aware of her work just see the same old bulls**t regurgitated ad f**king nauseum to the benefit of Deranged's wallet. I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic. It's not my second language. I don't have to google it. Buy a dictionary. Warhol isn't mentioned under that word I guarantee it. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Poster Bob on Mar 11, 2016 23:51:27 GMT 1, Nobodies? You really have an amazing grasp of Engrish.
I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic. She's not Damien Hirst no. But nobodies saying that.
Nobodies? You really have an amazing grasp of Engrish. I use it to mean famous/popular. I think that's a correct application of the word iconic. She's not Damien Hirst no. But nobodies saying that. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Poster Bob on Mar 11, 2016 23:53:02 GMT 1, Ah, I see. It must be your third. Understood.
It sounds like you just googled a term you can't explain. Iconic in art means signature image. Mention Warhol and people see Marilyn and soup cans, mention Hirst and people see dots, mention Chevrier and those who are aware of her work just see the same old bulls**t regurgitated ad f**king nauseum to the benefit of Deranged's wallet. It's not my second language. I don't have to google it. Buy a dictionary. Warhol isn't mentioned under that word I guarantee it.
Ah, I see. It must be your third. Understood. It sounds like you just googled a term you can't explain. Iconic in art means signature image. Mention Warhol and people see Marilyn and soup cans, mention Hirst and people see dots, mention Chevrier and those who are aware of her work just see the same old bulls**t regurgitated ad f**king nauseum to the benefit of Deranged's wallet. It's not my second language. I don't have to google it. Buy a dictionary. Warhol isn't mentioned under that word I guarantee it. |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 11, 2016 23:55:02 GMT 1, Btw I didnt get her work straight away. I used to see it as gimmicky, hyped... But she's a self taught artist and had some really strong shows.
The development in her style over short space of time is another level.
And what I enjoy most from her work is about the technique. It's artisan.
In no doubt some of her images are iconic imo.
Not the timed release, but a few others.
I bet collectors do hang them with Warhol prints.
Why not?
Btw I didnt get her work straight away. I used to see it as gimmicky, hyped... But she's a self taught artist and had some really strong shows.
The development in her style over short space of time is another level.
And what I enjoy most from her work is about the technique. It's artisan.
In no doubt some of her images are iconic imo.
Not the timed release, but a few others.
I bet collectors do hang them with Warhol prints.
Why not?
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by onetwothree on Mar 11, 2016 23:57:56 GMT 1, Nobodies? You really have an amazing grasp of Engrish. She's not Damien Hirst no. But nobodies saying that.
At least I can spell the actual language!!!
Ha you're a laugh
Nobodies? You really have an amazing grasp of Engrish. She's not Damien Hirst no. But nobodies saying that. At least I can spell the actual language!!! Ha you're a laugh |
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by Poster Bob on Mar 12, 2016 0:33:37 GMT 1, Nobodies? You really have an amazing grasp of Engrish. At least I can spell the actual language!!! Ha you're a laugh
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engrish
Nobodies? You really have an amazing grasp of Engrish. At least I can spell the actual language!!! Ha you're a laugh It's OK. Most plebs don't even know they're speaking Engrish: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engrish |
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