[Art Fan 2011]

Mar 7, 2016 23:54:48 GMT 1 onetwothree said:

Puts me off not knowing the edition size. does the final edition size on these type of things get comfirmed?
Not sure it will huge because a small time frame, I think a lot of people won't realise until it's ended

The Geddes timed edition's usually run north of 1000 and they are shorter times - time wont be much of a factor in the edition size in this instance, itl be the price! Sure the release will be more that well touted in the usual places!

[maxamaxa2]

Mar 8, 2016 4:55:31 GMT 1 soupy said:

full bleed giclee?  don't think i've ever seen one.  kinda strange, no?  usually only screenprints.

Its just to cut them, close to every poster have it

[10th Mountain]

Mar 8, 2016 4:55:31 GMT 1 soupy said:

full bleed giclee?  don't think i've ever seen one.  kinda strange, no?  usually only screenprints.

My guess is they print it, then cut it. Printers would do this with any print that bleeds I would assume, or it would all be very messy?

[kojak]

Can i confirm my understanding of this release. 

The edition size is how many people buy a copy within the 72 hour period that it is on sale?

So if 4000 people buy a copy within 72 hours the edition size will be 4000 ?

Strange way to do a release if i have understood this correctly. 

[pokodogo]

Kojak

Yes that's correct in everyway.... It's just so everyone has chance to grab a print, can u imagine a Banksy times release. It would be nice but would be a massive edition size!!!

May I add $290 seems expensive for this timed release but on the flip side this might keep the edition size down

[jusdeep]

These kind of releases always bug me - £200 for a timed release that could end up an edition of thousands, or a kind gesture from the artists allowing many more fans to own some of their work?
Personally, unless all or some of the profit is going to charity I would steer clear - however good the image or how much I like the artists work. This kind of selling devalues what is an exceptional print.

[aberdoom]

Not for me! I like these times releases! Anyone who wants one actually gets one... flippers don't make any money! Fair play!

[greatplainsman]

Mar 8, 2016 13:23:42 GMT 1 aberdoom said:

Not for me! I like these times releases! Anyone who wants one actually gets one... flippers don't make any money! Fair play!

Everyone's a flipper.... Eventually. Even you. It's part of this hobbies appeal. I'm with the guy above; these timed editions take something away from the print...

[soupy]

while i certainly enjoy the limited edition appeal.... an occasional timed edition is always a great way to get the art into fans hands (and to expand the fanbase).  i just think the price point is off on this one.  i don't think it is going to attract the borderline or casual sandra fan.  either way, i'm not too crazy about the muted colors of the new stuff.  just looks like some weird crap on her face.  i'm sure the detail shows better in person, but it still doesn't have that pop.

[soupy]

Mar 8, 2016 9:45:44 GMT 1 10th Mountain said:

Mar 8, 2016 4:55:31 GMT 1 soupy said:

full bleed giclee?  don't think i've ever seen one.  kinda strange, no?  usually only screenprints.

My guess is they print it, then cut it. Printers would do this with any print that bleeds I would assume, or it would all be very messy?

my comment was more towards print display and framing.  giclee inks are easily damaged, rubbed, smudged, scuffed, etc. while screen prints don't suffer the same fate.  a full bleed makes mattes out of the question, no?

[docean]

hey gotta pay for all of those Gucci bags somehow...

I love the image but I can't in good conscience pay $290 + post for a timed release.  cash grab all day.

not only passing but kind of put off from buying more of her work after this

[onetwothree]

I bought one if the large format giclees last year. They are like originals, if same printer will be awesome quality and defo worth £200 but a large edition puts me off, prefer low myself.

[docean]

the ones from Basel?  I agree that the printing quality was superb.  but it was only worth $1100 to me because of the low edition size of 25.  There could potentially be thousands of her release today.

[nighthawk]

People (lots of them) have payed other artists $200+ for timed editions, without ever questioning it. I don't see why charging an extra $100 is getting everyone's knickers in a knot?! If you don't like it, don't buy it. But to argue semantics over pricing is a little ridiculous IMO.

[Art Fan 2011]

UP - $340 delivered to the UK, plus the usual taxes

£240, plus taxes could make it nearly £300 landed, ummmm no thanks!!!

[soupy]

Mar 8, 2016 16:32:44 GMT 1 nighthawk said:

I don't see why charging an extra $100 is getting everyone's knickers in a knot?! If you don't like it, don't buy it. But to argue semantics over pricing is a little ridiculous IMO.

1) i don't think you know what the word "semantics" means
2) this is an art forum .... release discussion, pricing, etc is what happens

[peted77]

Had a look online, does £88 import duty sound about right?

[nighthawk]

Why, aren't you a smarty pants!! You know exactly what I mean, whether I used the word correctly or not. But thanks Tips!

[chrisell66]

The simple fact is to "most" people posting the price is excessive for an open edition gicglee - fair enough the exchange rate isn't helping this side of the pond and the additional import taxes just push it beyond what most feel is a fair price.

I'm not a huge fan so its really a matter of indifference to me - but it does have the odour of a cash grab.

An artist is entitled to ask whatever they want - rock bands can charge whatever they want for a gig - but equally everyone else is entitled to go f*** off at that price or decide it represents a fair exchange.

If this was a Faile print would I be buying at this price - probably not for an open edition ink jet print. But then I suspect they'd be half the price

Its not just the image you buy - or we'd all have posters on the wall - you buy an image but when its a screen print you accept a certain level of work went into it - here not so much.

[docean]

as far as I'm concerned, timed release is barely a cut above a poster from Walmart

[kojak]

I do really like her work i was torn between buying an original from her or a limited edition print both i am sure would be collectable items. 

I do not see anything collectable about this and as others have said it just seems like a money grab does put you off a bit. 

But each to there own i am sure for some people this is an ideal release to ensure you get a copy of her work. 

She has been churning work out recently i am sure more buying opportunities will arise in the future. 

I saw she had an original piece for sale at the recent Saatchi group show it was priced at 7500 pounds sterling. Not sure how this price relates to previous shows ?

[kojak]

Mar 8, 2016 19:12:07 GMT 1 docean said:

as far as I'm concerned, timed release is barely a cut above a poster from Walmart

Haha that made me laugh and very true!! I bet the price is better from Walmart.

[Hairbland]

Mar 8, 2016 18:42:24 GMT 1 soupy said:

Mar 8, 2016 16:32:44 GMT 1 nighthawk said:

I don't see why charging an extra $100 is getting everyone's knickers in a knot?! If you don't like it, don't buy it. But to argue semantics over pricing is a little ridiculous IMO.

1) i don't think you know what the word "semantics" means
2) this is an art forum .... release discussion, pricing, etc is what happens

Yes, an art forum, arguably one that helped create her buzz.  What goes up must come down.

[gmidd]

Mar 8, 2016 19:13:29 GMT 1 kojak said:

I do really like her work i was torn between buying an original from her or a limited edition print both i am sure would be collectable items. 

I do not see anything collectable about this and as others have said it just seems like a money grab does put you off a bit. 

But each to there own i am sure for some people this is an ideal release to ensure you get a copy of her work. 

She has been churning work out recently i am sure more buying opportunities will arise in the future. 

I saw she had an original piece for sale at the recent Saatchi group show it was priced at 7500 pounds sterling. Not sure how this price relates to previous shows ?

That's not necessarily true though. A lot of artists do timed release prints that end up being very collectible. It does really seem to depend on the artist and how well the edition is advertised. For example, if you look at some of the time release prints James Jean has done overy the past year or two, even though they end up with large editions, many of them are very sought after on the secondary market because people either didn't know about the sale or didn't have money at the time and are now trying to track one down. So, being a time release doesn't necessarily mean it's not going to be collectable.

That being said though, while I am a big fan of Sandra's work, I will be passing on this print because I do think it's overpriced.

[docean]

there's one on eBay for $1000, firm.


LOL.

[scarylarry]

Mar 8, 2016 21:53:09 GMT 1 docean said:

there's one on eBay for $1000, firm.


LOL.

Someone dog must be posting stuff on EBay

[lollo88]

Feb 27, 2016 11:18:40 GMT 1 Nick said:

Barbara Palvin?

I think so

[docean]

"Here in France, it is the crisis.  The 10% threshold of unemployed has increased, not to mention assisted people .... We are in a socialist country ... We survive as we can (-__-)"


the response after I sent the seller a message laughing

[mishen]

ANYONE buy it?

[rjf76]

Na...