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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 8:45:43 GMT 1, Hello to all the forum,
First, I would like to tell you that all the art i've been selling were either through galleries, auction houses or art brokers. But never through a forum because at least for me ( no disrespect ) , but when you sell serious art, forums are generally not the best way to sell.
Second, I do not see anything wrong being a new member of this forum. You all started this membership thing by having your first thread here weeks, months or years ago. It is absolutely normal to be new here.
Third, I did try to get a coa from the Basquiat Estate, but they do not provide any coa anymore since 2012, bad luck. I contacted Anina Nosei, who told me there is no way to possibly get a coa on a Basquiat but only from the Estate itself which stopped doing that. So i cannot sell it through an auction house without that paper. So i tried a forum here to see maybe some serious interested collector would be interested.
Last, I did mention " time wasters " because i've seen a lot of potential buyers sending offers in the 10,000$us range for art of six figures or more value. So i just tried to save time and mention that i do not want to receive all that. Sorry if it sounded too strong to serious people in here. Didn't mean it like that. Hope you understand.
thank you for your time
Hello to all the forum,
First, I would like to tell you that all the art i've been selling were either through galleries, auction houses or art brokers. But never through a forum because at least for me ( no disrespect ) , but when you sell serious art, forums are generally not the best way to sell.
Second, I do not see anything wrong being a new member of this forum. You all started this membership thing by having your first thread here weeks, months or years ago. It is absolutely normal to be new here.
Third, I did try to get a coa from the Basquiat Estate, but they do not provide any coa anymore since 2012, bad luck. I contacted Anina Nosei, who told me there is no way to possibly get a coa on a Basquiat but only from the Estate itself which stopped doing that. So i cannot sell it through an auction house without that paper. So i tried a forum here to see maybe some serious interested collector would be interested.
Last, I did mention " time wasters " because i've seen a lot of potential buyers sending offers in the 10,000$us range for art of six figures or more value. So i just tried to save time and mention that i do not want to receive all that. Sorry if it sounded too strong to serious people in here. Didn't mean it like that. Hope you understand.
thank you for your time
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by alittle on Feb 3, 2014 9:11:34 GMT 1, Not sure what you are expecting by showing up on a forum, and making your first post selling something that cannot be verified as authentic. If none of the major auction houses want to touch it, what makes you think anyone here will want to pay top dollar for it?
Not sure what you are expecting by showing up on a forum, and making your first post selling something that cannot be verified as authentic. If none of the major auction houses want to touch it, what makes you think anyone here will want to pay top dollar for it?
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by hnkpnk on Feb 3, 2014 9:16:14 GMT 1, Second, I do not see anything wrong being a new member of this forum. You all started this membership thing by having your first thread here weeks, months or years ago. It is absolutely normal to be new here.
Second, I do not see anything wrong being a new member of this forum. You all started this membership thing by having your first thread here weeks, months or years ago. It is absolutely normal to be new here. My first post wasn't trying to sell a six figure Basquiat without provenance. |
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 9:24:59 GMT 1, I did not say that all auction houses do not want to touch it. I said that generally auction houses sell art that are accompanied by a coa of the Estate itself. And it is impossible to get a coa from the Estate as you know. I tried, but they don't do that anymore.
I could list it on ebay, but thought it would be much better here, as it is an art forum , more targetted audience. So yes, my first post is what you all can see and read.
thank you
I did not say that all auction houses do not want to touch it. I said that generally auction houses sell art that are accompanied by a coa of the Estate itself. And it is impossible to get a coa from the Estate as you know. I tried, but they don't do that anymore.
I could list it on ebay, but thought it would be much better here, as it is an art forum , more targetted audience. So yes, my first post is what you all can see and read.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 9:48:17 GMT 1, jokeβ¦.this guy will not give locationβ¦.any prov whatsoever, where he bought it, who he is (his email has no name attached) basically nothingβ¦.yet he wants you to make an offer in the region of tens of thousands of $$$??
its just nutsβ¦.
jokeβ¦.this guy will not give locationβ¦.any prov whatsoever, where he bought it, who he is (his email has no name attached) basically nothingβ¦.yet he wants you to make an offer in the region of tens of thousands of $$$??
its just nutsβ¦.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Cedric Mnich on Feb 3, 2014 10:06:33 GMT 1, Good luck on selling unenthautified art piece in a six figures range here.
Good luck on selling unenthautified art piece in a six figures range here.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by mandingo on Feb 3, 2014 12:39:19 GMT 1, I was in a gallery last week that sold a Keith haring street piece with no provenance for 10k. If it had provenance 6 figures.
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I was in a gallery last week that sold a Keith haring street piece with no provenance for 10k. If it had provenance 6 figures.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 13:42:53 GMT 1, "First, I would like to tell you that all the art i've been selling were either through galleries, auction houses or art brokers. But never through a forum because at least for me ( no disrespect ) , but when you sell serious art, forums are generally not the best way to sell."
Then what the FucK are you doing here?....
You have basically said, through your own admission, that you know this is a crappy knock off that you couldn't sell through any respectable avenue, so you thought you would try to rip off the good ( I use that term loosely) members of this forum.
Well BRAVO to you, you'll fit right in.
(now feel free to delete your account and join again under a new name to try to share a similar deal a few months down the road)
"First, I would like to tell you that all the art i've been selling were either through galleries, auction houses or art brokers. But never through a forum because at least for me ( no disrespect ) , but when you sell serious art, forums are generally not the best way to sell."
Then what the FucK are you doing here?....
You have basically said, through your own admission, that you know this is a crappy knock off that you couldn't sell through any respectable avenue, so you thought you would try to rip off the good ( I use that term loosely) members of this forum.
Well BRAVO to you, you'll fit right in.
(now feel free to delete your account and join again under a new name to try to share a similar deal a few months down the road)
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by mandingo on Feb 3, 2014 14:18:18 GMT 1, This Reakes of elevator Scott!
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This Reakes of elevator Scott!
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 14:52:25 GMT 1, Mr Fart,
If you know any serious auction house that is willing to sell an original Basquiat drawing without an Estate certificate, please let me know.
All the art i've sold have the respective COA or LOA. It is NOT my fault if the Basquiat Estate stopped authenticating Basquiat art. I contacted Mrs.Nosei who told me herself that there is no way to get any COA from them. And noone else will do it , and if they do , it's like it doesn't count.
So i am offering this beautiful drawing with coa, because simply the Basquiat Estate stopped that. Instead of just complaining and complaining post after post, maybe you could be smarter to maybe take a look and grab a bargain. Many artworks without provenance, without coa, sell for bargains while they would sell for thousands or millions with the proper paperwork. So no, i am not looking for fools, for stupi people. I am looking for art collectors who appreciate art and that would be interested in a wise investment. If you do not wish to purchase such items, feel free to wait for the next Sotheby's auction, and pay 1-4m$ for a nice mixed media drawing. But stop dissing a new member so much for no reason. Your behavior doesn't mirror one of a serious art collector.
My kindest regards
Mr Fart,
If you know any serious auction house that is willing to sell an original Basquiat drawing without an Estate certificate, please let me know.
All the art i've sold have the respective COA or LOA. It is NOT my fault if the Basquiat Estate stopped authenticating Basquiat art. I contacted Mrs.Nosei who told me herself that there is no way to get any COA from them. And noone else will do it , and if they do , it's like it doesn't count.
So i am offering this beautiful drawing with coa, because simply the Basquiat Estate stopped that. Instead of just complaining and complaining post after post, maybe you could be smarter to maybe take a look and grab a bargain. Many artworks without provenance, without coa, sell for bargains while they would sell for thousands or millions with the proper paperwork. So no, i am not looking for fools, for stupi people. I am looking for art collectors who appreciate art and that would be interested in a wise investment. If you do not wish to purchase such items, feel free to wait for the next Sotheby's auction, and pay 1-4m$ for a nice mixed media drawing. But stop dissing a new member so much for no reason. Your behavior doesn't mirror one of a serious art collector.
My kindest regards
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by kfroms on Feb 3, 2014 15:13:33 GMT 1, Mr Fart, If you know any serious auction house that is willing to sell an original Basquiat drawing without an Estate certificate, please let me know. All the art i've sold have the respective COA or LOA. It is NOT my fault if the Basquiat Estate stopped authenticating Basquiat art. I contacted Mrs.Nosei who told me herself that there is no way to get any COA from them. And noone else will do it , and if they do , it's like it doesn't count. So i am offering this beautiful drawing with coa, because simply the Basquiat Estate stopped that. Instead of just complaining and complaining post after post, maybe you could be smarter to maybe take a look and grab a bargain. Many artworks without provenance, without coa, sell for bargains while they would sell for thousands or millions with the proper paperwork. So no, i am not looking for fools, for stupi people. I am looking for art collectors who appreciate art and that would be interested in a wise investment. If you do not wish to purchase such items, feel free to wait for the next Sotheby's auction, and pay 1-4m$ for a nice mixed media drawing. But stop dissing a new member so much for no reason. Your behavior doesn't mirror one of a serious art collector. My kindest regards
how is something a "wise" investment if there is no chance for a COA? To me that sounds like a rather stupid investment ( and that has nothing to do with the price )
Mr Fart, If you know any serious auction house that is willing to sell an original Basquiat drawing without an Estate certificate, please let me know. All the art i've sold have the respective COA or LOA. It is NOT my fault if the Basquiat Estate stopped authenticating Basquiat art. I contacted Mrs.Nosei who told me herself that there is no way to get any COA from them. And noone else will do it , and if they do , it's like it doesn't count. So i am offering this beautiful drawing with coa, because simply the Basquiat Estate stopped that. Instead of just complaining and complaining post after post, maybe you could be smarter to maybe take a look and grab a bargain. Many artworks without provenance, without coa, sell for bargains while they would sell for thousands or millions with the proper paperwork. So no, i am not looking for fools, for stupi people. I am looking for art collectors who appreciate art and that would be interested in a wise investment. If you do not wish to purchase such items, feel free to wait for the next Sotheby's auction, and pay 1-4m$ for a nice mixed media drawing. But stop dissing a new member so much for no reason. Your behavior doesn't mirror one of a serious art collector. My kindest regards I am a bit thick so please help me: how is something a "wise" investment if there is no chance for a COA? To me that sounds like a rather stupid investment ( and that has nothing to do with the price ) |
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Black Apple Art on Feb 3, 2014 16:03:24 GMT 1, Great post.
Great post.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by monsoonking on Feb 3, 2014 16:15:19 GMT 1, Mr Fart, It is NOT my fault if the Basquiat Estate stopped authenticating Basquiat art. I contacted Mrs.Nosei who told me herself that there is no way to get any COA from them. And noone else will do it , and if they do , it's like it doesn't count. So i am offering this beautiful drawing with coa, because simply the Basquiat Estate stopped that.
Unlike the COA, not having a provenance IS YOUR FAULT. A piece of modern art purchased without it will be, as a default, considered a forgery, and with good reason. Taking someone's word that a piece is real just doesn't fly. I'd put the fair value of your drawing at around $100.
Mr Fart, It is NOT my fault if the Basquiat Estate stopped authenticating Basquiat art. I contacted Mrs.Nosei who told me herself that there is no way to get any COA from them. And noone else will do it , and if they do , it's like it doesn't count. So i am offering this beautiful drawing with coa, because simply the Basquiat Estate stopped that. Forget the COA. A work that was produced during the Reagan administration should have a very clear and verifiable provenance. This is doubly true for an artist who was very famous throughout the majority of his career. Everyone who owned this would have known it was something special. The fact that it's not already in a museum or in the hands of a major collector makes it immediately suspect. Why didn't previous owners have it authenticated (before 2012)? Why didn't previous owners have provenance? Why do you believe that it's real, besides the word of the seller? Unlike the COA, not having a provenance IS YOUR FAULT. A piece of modern art purchased without it will be, as a default, considered a forgery, and with good reason. Taking someone's word that a piece is real just doesn't fly. I'd put the fair value of your drawing at around $100. |
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Collection 1 on Feb 3, 2014 16:20:19 GMT 1, It always amazed me how people are waiting until the Estate dissolved to get their work authenticated.
It always amazed me how people are waiting until the Estate dissolved to get their work authenticated.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by gorkie on Feb 3, 2014 16:57:57 GMT 1, I've seen the image of the work. My humble opinion is that it is not a work by JMB.
lovedrive21 - If you truly feel that is not the case, then my advice to you would be to go see Jeffrey Deitch or Tony Shafrazi and cut to the chase.
If they won't touch it you probably have a real issue.
I've seen the image of the work. My humble opinion is that it is not a work by JMB.
lovedrive21 - If you truly feel that is not the case, then my advice to you would be to go see Jeffrey Deitch or Tony Shafrazi and cut to the chase.
If they won't touch it you probably have a real issue.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Coach on Feb 3, 2014 17:09:32 GMT 1, So there is no provenance then?
This is the crucial question, that I don't think has been answered.
Let's not assume it has no provenance at all, until that's what the seller says.
I know it has no coa, and why.
Does it have any provenance at all?
So there is no provenance then? This is the crucial question, that I don't think has been answered. Let's not assume it has no provenance at all, until that's what the seller says. I know it has no coa, and why. Does it have any provenance at all? |
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by fairplay1974 on Feb 3, 2014 19:33:54 GMT 1, Come on guys, give this chap a break....I've just got a bargain Chagall (although currently negotiating getting it shipped back from France which seems to be proving an issue). It had no COA either, but looked legit to me so the six figure fee was a bargain..... Hold on, it's on the BBC news now.....
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Come on guys, give this chap a break....I've just got a bargain Chagall (although currently negotiating getting it shipped back from France which seems to be proving an issue). It had no COA either, but looked legit to me so the six figure fee was a bargain..... Hold on, it's on the BBC news now.....
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Brushstrokes 75 on Feb 4, 2014 3:55:16 GMT 1, Estate committee or not.. There are still a number of high authority that could still give you an opinion on your work (anina nosei, navarra, shafrazi etc...).
On top of that, the range of prices for Basquiat drawing is huge. Price range from low $10ks to mid 6 figures all depending on size and quality. (and I've seen & been offered really ugly ones with full prov & COA)
Top auctions houses wouldn't disregard a work just because there is no cert or even perfect prov (especially if they know there is no active committee anymore). They would definately do their due dilligence unless it is really shady. They wouldn't pass on a large possible settlement that easily
Estate committee or not.. There are still a number of high authority that could still give you an opinion on your work (anina nosei, navarra, shafrazi etc...).
On top of that, the range of prices for Basquiat drawing is huge. Price range from low $10ks to mid 6 figures all depending on size and quality. (and I've seen & been offered really ugly ones with full prov & COA)
Top auctions houses wouldn't disregard a work just because there is no cert or even perfect prov (especially if they know there is no active committee anymore). They would definately do their due dilligence unless it is really shady. They wouldn't pass on a large possible settlement that easily
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 4:15:35 GMT 1, Estate committee or not.. There are still a number of high authority that could still give you an opinion on your work (anina nosei, navarra, shafrazi etc...). On top of that, the range of prices for Basquiat drawing is huge. Price range from low $10ks to mid 6 figures all depending on size and quality. (and I've seen & been offered really ugly ones with full prov & COA) Top auctions houses wouldn't disregard a work just because there is no cert or even perfect prov (especially if they know there is no active committee anymore). They would definately do their due dilligence unless it is really shady. They wouldn't pass on a large possible settlement that easily
Zim, you of all people surprise me for even giving this bullshit post the time of day.
Estate committee or not.. There are still a number of high authority that could still give you an opinion on your work (anina nosei, navarra, shafrazi etc...). On top of that, the range of prices for Basquiat drawing is huge. Price range from low $10ks to mid 6 figures all depending on size and quality. (and I've seen & been offered really ugly ones with full prov & COA) Top auctions houses wouldn't disregard a work just because there is no cert or even perfect prov (especially if they know there is no active committee anymore). They would definately do their due dilligence unless it is really shady. They wouldn't pass on a large possible settlement that easily Zim, you of all people surprise me for even giving this bullshit post the time of day. |
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 17:39:28 GMT 1, This sold now then or what?.
This sold now then or what?.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 9:36:09 GMT 1, Hello,
The drawing is still up for sale. Offers are welcome. Additional photos can be sent through email. just contact me.
thank you
Hello,
The drawing is still up for sale. Offers are welcome. Additional photos can be sent through email. just contact me.
thank you
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 8:21:31 GMT 1, Anyone here interested in a Basquiat HEAD print ?
PM me
Serious offers only please
Thanks
Anyone here interested in a Basquiat HEAD print ?
PM me
Serious offers only please
Thanks
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 8:22:44 GMT 1, Ps please please don't PM to ask what I'm looking for it ..
If your serious you will know what it's worth and what your willing to spend
Simples
Ps please please don't PM to ask what I'm looking for it ..
If your serious you will know what it's worth and what your willing to spend
Simples
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by stang on Apr 23, 2014 9:20:18 GMT 1, Ps please please don't PM to ask what I'm looking for it .. If your serious you will know what it's worth and what your willing to spend Simples
Ps please please don't PM to ask what I'm looking for it .. If your serious you will know what it's worth and what your willing to spend Simples I agree- you're dead right to get the plebs to toe the line. How dare they clog up your inbox asking the price of the item you're selling. It's a great idea to keep the price a secret- I wish Tescos would do the same- imagine the excitement when you're standing at the checkout watching the price creep up, knowing you only had 20 quid in your pocket. Exhilarating. |
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Poster Bob on Apr 23, 2014 11:33:19 GMT 1, I can't see the issue with asking people to actually read the post. He's asking for offers. If you're interested, send an offer. Simple.
I can't see the issue with asking people to actually read the post. He's asking for offers. If you're interested, send an offer. Simple.
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 11:54:19 GMT 1, Ps please please don't PM to ask what I'm looking for it .. If your serious you will know what it's worth and what your willing to spend Simples
But using the same logic, if you know what it's worth then you should just name your price...
Ps please please don't PM to ask what I'm looking for it .. If your serious you will know what it's worth and what your willing to spend Simples But using the same logic, if you know what it's worth then you should just name your price... |
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Happy Shopper on Apr 23, 2014 12:39:35 GMT 1, I have no idea what this costs... but I like the sound of it!
A vague idea of price range would probably help!!
I have no idea what this costs... but I like the sound of it!
A vague idea of price range would probably help!!
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Jean-Michel Basquiat πΊπΈ Brooklyn, New York β’ Graffiti Art , by Quinnster on Apr 23, 2014 14:25:20 GMT 1, I guess at the higher end of the market things are a little different and prices and images are a little more discrete.
Good luck with the sale Dr Jimmy is a good chap to deal with. (Even if he does get a bit of stick on the forum)
I guess at the higher end of the market things are a little different and prices and images are a little more discrete.
Good luck with the sale Dr Jimmy is a good chap to deal with. (Even if he does get a bit of stick on the forum)
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