Banksy.co.uk • Official Banksy Website

[Pysgod]

My friends send me links like this

www.thebanksyshop.co.uk/

they think shit is real

[Coach]

Oct 28, 2018 12:36:48 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

All a performance. If he wanted these shut down I think he could do so...

How exactly?

[Rouen Cathedral]

Oct 28, 2018 14:11:33 GMT 1 Coach said:

Oct 28, 2018 12:36:48 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

All a performance. If he wanted these shut down I think he could do so...

How exactly?

The outrage - the disavowing it. The oh don't support these people. It's a performance.

If it really upset him he'd put a stop to it.

Actually it's a quite nice piece of performance art. It's when his fans think it's true outrage and go bonkers on these places like twitteresque outrage.

[JJN]

Think about it, how could Banksy stop it, through legal means ??

Under whose name in court would it be done?

How would they prove they are Banksy?

[.dappy]

Oct 28, 2018 15:08:02 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Oct 28, 2018 14:11:33 GMT 1 Coach said:

How exactly?

The outrage - the disavowing it. The oh don't support these people. It's a performance.

If it really upset him he'd put a stop to it.

Actually it's a quite nice piece of performance art. It's when his fans think it's true outrage and go bonkers on these places like twitteresque outrage.

... you're the outraged ... and putting on a performance 🙄🙄🙄

[Rouen Cathedral]

Oct 28, 2018 16:02:22 GMT 1 .dappy said:

Oct 28, 2018 15:08:02 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

The outrage - the disavowing it. The oh don't support these people. It's a performance.

If it really upset him he'd put a stop to it.

Actually it's a quite nice piece of performance art. It's when his fans think it's true outrage and go bonkers on these places like twitteresque outrage.

... you're the outraged ... and putting on a performance 🙄🙄🙄

So instead of commenting about me.

Why don't we discuss the topic? I'd love to hear your opinion on something besides me 😆

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Oct 28, 2018 15:08:02 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Oct 28, 2018 14:11:33 GMT 1 Coach said:

How exactly?

The outrage - the disavowing it. The oh don't support these people. It's a performance.

If it really upset him he'd put a stop to it.

Actually it's a quite nice piece of performance art. It's when his fans think it's true outrage and go bonkers on these places like twitteresque outrage.

if you read the OP or look at Banksy website there is no outrage. He points out the differences between some exhibits and ask people to treat accordingly.

Reads quite measured to me as opposed to outrageous, no ?

[Coach]

Oct 28, 2018 15:08:02 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Oct 28, 2018 14:11:33 GMT 1 Coach said:

How exactly?

The outrage - the disavowing it. The oh don't support these people. It's a performance.

If it really upset him he'd put a stop to it.

Actually it's a quite nice piece of performance art. It's when his fans think it's true outrage and go bonkers on these places like twitteresque outrage.

Ok, I’ll be clearer. How exactly could Banksy “put a stop to it”?

[Max Beales]

Think I fixed it?

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Oct 28, 2018 17:09:02 GMT 1 Max Beales said:

Think I fixed it?

outrageous !

[Dive Jedi]

Oct 28, 2018 17:05:21 GMT 1 Coach said:

Oct 28, 2018 15:08:02 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

The outrage - the disavowing it. The oh don't support these people. It's a performance.

If it really upset him he'd put a stop to it.

Actually it's a quite nice piece of performance art. It's when his fans think it's true outrage and go bonkers on these places like twitteresque outrage.

Ok, I’ll be clearer. How exactly could Banksy “put a stop to it”?

Oh,nooooooooooooooooo. It's Coaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…………….. and he's gone….

[Deleted]

Oct 28, 2018 17:09:02 GMT 1 Max Beales said:

Think I fixed it?

I wonder what he means by "treat them accordingly"?
What does he have in mind?

[Deleted]

Oct 28, 2018 16:11:08 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Oct 28, 2018 16:02:22 GMT 1 .dappy said:

... you're the outraged ... and putting on a performance 🙄🙄🙄

So instead of commenting about me.

Why don't we discuss the topic? I'd love to hear your opinion on something besides me 😆

I've answered your questions and asked you to back up your claims


Its very quiet

Edit, forget it actually, I shall try not be sucked again into your usual inane questioning which instead of discussing it, its followed buy another question, and another, then some statements that you cant or wont back up

You can be quite bright when it comes to other threads but when it comes to banksy you really become a complete Cunt. Like now!!

[Coach]

Oct 28, 2018 17:32:12 GMT 1 @markiemark said:

Oct 28, 2018 17:09:02 GMT 1 Max Beales said:

Think I fixed it?

I wonder what he means by "treat them accordingly"?
What does he have in mind?

I would imagine, but of course don’t know, that it has something to do with bearing in mind that it is not how he would have wished to present his work (or charge for viewing it).

[Deleted]

Oct 28, 2018 17:46:12 GMT 1 Coach said:

Oct 28, 2018 17:32:12 GMT 1 @markiemark said:

I wonder what he means by "treat them accordingly"?
What does he have in mind?

I would imagine, but of course don’t know, that it has something to do with bearing in mind that it is not how he would have wished to present his work (or charge for viewing it).

How many ways are there to present his work?  
1. Hang it on the wall.
2. ?

[Rouen Cathedral]

Oct 28, 2018 16:31:09 GMT 1 @kintoreton said:

Oct 28, 2018 15:08:02 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

The outrage - the disavowing it. The oh don't support these people. It's a performance.

If it really upset him he'd put a stop to it.

Actually it's a quite nice piece of performance art. It's when his fans think it's true outrage and go bonkers on these places like twitteresque outrage.

if you read the OP or look at Banksy website there is no outrage. He points out the differences between some exhibits and ask people to treat accordingly.

Reads quite measured to me as opposed to outrageous, no ?

Yes. It's the 'fans' that misconstrue it. I mentioned that above. The performance by banksy is quite good. It's the fans and the Twitter style outrage that piles onto it that makes the whole thing bizarre to me.

[Coach]

Oct 28, 2018 17:49:45 GMT 1 @markiemark said:

Oct 28, 2018 17:46:12 GMT 1 Coach said:

I would imagine, but of course don’t know, that it has something to do with bearing in mind that it is not how he would have wished to present his work (or charge for viewing it).

How many ways are there to present his work?  
1. Hang it on the wall.
2. ?

For the galleries that he’s listed, not many, I’d agree.
However, when Banksy puts on a show, there tends to be some surprises. It’s not just work hung on a wall.
And I suppose that’s was my point, when answering the question posed by someone else as to what I think he meant by “treat them accordingly “.

[lee3]

Oct 28, 2018 10:20:10 GMT 1 wappinghigh said:

Most artists like their work "exhibited" for the publicity......

So I have never heard of an artist not agreeing with an exhibit... can anyone name another one who doesn't?

However they are usually involved? right? in curation etc??

All this is rather curious IMO.

Cheers

I agree with you that most artists like their work exhibited, no question.  But this reality is so extreme/atypical that it boggles the mind.  I believe all 9 of the "fake" exhibitions on his site have taken place over the past year alone, certainly the past 2. Contrast that with the fact that his 9 authentic shows listed have taken place over the span of 15 years.  He's said as much as he's going to say so I'm speculating at this point as an avid admirer for most of those years.  He appears to me to be a less is more artist and a perfectionist with his best work free for all. 

So the fact that you have a couple handfuls of shows hosted by others for profit conflicts with the very ethos of this artist.  Most artists are not working in a context where 5 or 10 shows are open concurrently without permission.  Most curators work in concert with a living artist and if that artist said no thank you, that would be the end of the discussion.  In one case (mocco) you have a institution charging entry and leveraging receipts to purchase work on secondary to improve their collection and therefore garner more attention over time.  I can't think of another situation where an institution behaved similarly with a living artist objecting.  There is nothing he can do to remedy the situation apart from pointing out that these things are unsanctioned.  It's going to continue regardlessly and some of these are so poorly curated that they are hanging photos of work and charging entry.  All of these shows are dilutive and sterile by comparison to the genuine shows he unveils on his own and they're charging a premium for entry. 

[Coach]

Oct 28, 2018 19:14:17 GMT 1 lee3 said:

Oct 28, 2018 10:20:10 GMT 1 wappinghigh said:

Most artists like their work "exhibited" for the publicity......

So I have never heard of an artist not agreeing with an exhibit... can anyone name another one who doesn't?

However they are usually involved? right? in curation etc??

All this is rather curious IMO.

Cheers

I agree with you that most artists like their work exhibited, no question.  But this reality is so extreme/atypical that it boggles the mind.  I believe all 9 of the "fake" exhibitions on his site have taken place over the past year alone, certainly the past 2. Contrast that with the fact that his 9 authentic shows listed have taken place over the span of 15 years.  He's said as much as he's going to say so I'm speculating at this point as an avid admirer for most of those years.  He appears to me to be a less is more artist and a perfectionist with his best work free for all. 

So the fact that you have a couple handfuls of shows hosted by others for profit conflicts with the very ethos of this artist.  Most artists are not working in a context where 5 or 10 shows are open concurrently without permission.  Most curators work in concert with a living artist and if that artist said no thank you, that would be the end of the discussion.  In one case (mocco) you have a institution charging entry and leveraging receipts to purchase work on secondary to improve their collection and therefore garner more attention over time.  I can't think of another situation where an institution behaved similarly with a living artist objecting.  There is nothing he can do to remedy the situation apart from pointing out that these things are unsanctioned.  It's going to continue regardlessly and some of these are so poorly curated that they are hanging photos of work and charging entry.  All of these shows are dilutive and sterile by comparison to the genuine shows he unveils on his own and they're charging a premium for entry. 

Precisely (and much more eloquent than my posts).

[Whitefish]

While we are on the subject, it looks like Steve is at it again... Tickets for entry will be $36.00

www.banksyexhibit.com/

"commercial success is a mark of failure for a graffiti artist. We're not supposed to be embraced in that way. When you look at how society rewards so many of the wrong people, it's hard not to view financial reimbursement as a badge of self-serving mediocrity." -BANKSY

[probored]

Massive Attack is playing Amsterdam in February. Years of peer-reviewed scientific evidence shows a direct causal relationship between MA gigs and Banksy works appearing in the streets. Thanks in advance Banksy.

[kjg]

Oct 30, 2018 19:56:02 GMT 1 probored said:

Massive Attack is playing Amsterdam in February. Years of peer-reviewed scientific evidence shows a direct causal relationship between MA gigs and Banksy works appearing in the streets. Thanks in advance Banksy.

I will be there, too. Ticket sale starts this Friday :-)

[galaxy01]

Its not just shows, there are a huge amount of companies selling cheap banksy canvas prints, banksy art on mugs, banksy posters, someone even made a door curtain of a shredded GWRB recently... a lot of it never had the rights to sell. People making money off an image they have no rights to - even huge companies like Primark do it, yet if you copy their product they want to threaten and sue you

[Rouen Cathedral]

Nov 5, 2018 12:32:31 GMT 1 galaxy01 said:

Its not just shows, there are a huge amount of companies selling cheap banksy canvas prints, banksy art on mugs, banksy posters, someone even made a door curtain of a shredded GWRB recently... a lot of it never had the rights to sell. People making money off an image they have no rights to - even huge companies like Primark do it, yet if you copy their product they want to threaten and sue you

It appears banksy doesn't care about the rights. So if that's the case what's the problem?

[Max Beales]

Interesting update to this..
banksy.co.uk/shows.asp

[Carl Cashman]

Nov 22, 2018 10:22:46 GMT 1 Max Beales said:

Interesting update to this..
banksy.co.uk/shows.asp

That's been going round for a while... was on his Instagram too. Obviously the daily mail readers out there think it's all BS and a collab with Laz

[Max Beales]

Nov 22, 2018 10:27:23 GMT 1 Carl Cashman said:

Nov 22, 2018 10:22:46 GMT 1 Max Beales said:

Interesting update to this..
banksy.co.uk/shows.asp

That's been going round for a while... was on his Instagram too. Obviously the daily mail readers out there think it's all BS and a collab with Laz

I was more interested that the "real" shows column has been removed.

(who's insta? Can't see it on B's or Laz's?)

[telecine]

Speaking of shows ...


www.rt.com/news/444735-banksy-art-exhibit-illegal/

[skAcid]

Nov 23, 2018 18:38:29 GMT 1 telecine said:

Speaking of shows ...


www.rt.com/news/444735-banksy-art-exhibit-illegal/

Bailiffs have seized 58 pieces of art by renowned street artist Banksy, worth an estimated €15 million, after a court found the exhibit was not authorized by the artist or by the owners of the work.

The items were seized from the former Delhaize supermarket turned urban art haven in Ixelles, Belgium, and placed in receivership following a court ruling on Wednesday.



The commercial court in Brussels found the exhibition was illegal after the non-profit organization Strokar, which rents the space to exhibitors, learned they did not have permission to display the artwork, according to L’Echo.


Strokar claims that they were contacted by German company ‘On Entertainment’ to display the pieces, but later learned from Banksy’s former manager, and owner of the majority of the work, Steve Lazarides, that the company did not have permission nor rights to display it.



On Banksy’s website the artist himself warns fans of a series of recent “fake” exhibits in Miami, Milan, Moscow, Toronto, Tel Aviv, Istanbul, Antwerp, and Ixelles.



“Members of the public must be aware that there has been a recent spate of Banksy exhibitions, none of which are allowed,” the warning reads. “They were organized entirely without the knowledge or the participation of the Banksy. Please treat them accordingly."   

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Nov 23, 2018 19:07:19 GMT 1 skAcid said:

Nov 23, 2018 18:38:29 GMT 1 telecine said:

Speaking of shows ...


www.rt.com/news/444735-banksy-art-exhibit-illegal/

Bailiffs have seized 58 pieces of art by renowned street artist Banksy, worth an estimated €15 million, after a court found the exhibit was not authorized by the artist or by the owners of the work.

The items were seized from the former Delhaize supermarket turned urban art haven in Ixelles, Belgium, and placed in receivership following a court ruling on Wednesday.



The commercial court in Brussels found the exhibition was illegal after the non-profit organization Strokar, which rents the space to exhibitors, learned they did not have permission to display the artwork, according to L’Echo.


Strokar claims that they were contacted by German company ‘On Entertainment’ to display the pieces, but later learned from Banksy’s former manager, and owner of the majority of the work, Steve Lazarides, that the company did not have permission nor rights to display it.



On Banksy’s website the artist himself warns fans of a series of recent “fake” exhibits in Miami, Milan, Moscow, Toronto, Tel Aviv, Istanbul, Antwerp, and Ixelles.



“Members of the public must be aware that there has been a recent spate of Banksy exhibitions, none of which are allowed,” the warning reads. “They were organized entirely without the knowledge or the participation of the Banksy. Please treat them accordingly."   

That must be comforting to anyone who loaned works to any of these shows. Good luck