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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by trapnel1 on Jan 28, 2021 12:25:30 GMT 1, First edition without dustwrapper widely available at ยฃ130 and upwards. If selling, I would expect less than ยฃ100.
With dustwrapper in this condition somewhere between ยฃ150 and ยฃ500 - probably closer to the lower end for a quick sale. Depends how long you are prepared to wait, of course. Still significantly more than this would have sold for a couple of years ago. However, I don't think there will ever be the sort of price inflation we have seen for other Banksy items.
First edition without dustwrapper widely available at ยฃ130 and upwards. If selling, I would expect less than ยฃ100.
With dustwrapper in this condition somewhere between ยฃ150 and ยฃ500 - probably closer to the lower end for a quick sale. Depends how long you are prepared to wait, of course. Still significantly more than this would have sold for a couple of years ago. However, I don't think there will ever be the sort of price inflation we have seen for other Banksy items.
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Banksy โข Soup Cans Poster, by trapnel1 on Nov 1, 2020 12:35:46 GMT 1, i mailed dora a few months back and was told they didn't have any tucked away and they wouldn't be making more so i ended up going to ebay. if i can find the mail i'll post it. i got one off the seller who just got ยฃ166 (cagedbabies) in december, he had it on for a ยฃ49.99 buy it now. at the time i got it he was listing 4 of them. Were the 2nd pow release reprints?2nd edition , lower value then๐ฌ๐คฃ
Book collectors know all about this..... with a small number of exceptions, 2nd and subsequent editions have little value compared with the first. Why should that be? Convention, and the desire to have the first of something. The content of the book (equivalent to decorative value of the poster or print) is just the same.
There needs to be a small difference, so that the first edition can be distinguished, which there almost always is in the case of a book. No idea whether or not the more recent posters can be distinguised from the 2008 and earlier lot in this case. Or whether it matters. I suspect not.
i mailed dora a few months back and was told they didn't have any tucked away and they wouldn't be making more so i ended up going to ebay. if i can find the mail i'll post it. i got one off the seller who just got ยฃ166 (cagedbabies) in december, he had it on for a ยฃ49.99 buy it now. at the time i got it he was listing 4 of them. Were the 2nd pow release reprints?2nd edition , lower value then๐ฌ๐คฃ
Book collectors know all about this..... with a small number of exceptions, 2nd and subsequent editions have little value compared with the first. Why should that be? Convention, and the desire to have the first of something. The content of the book (equivalent to decorative value of the poster or print) is just the same.
There needs to be a small difference, so that the first edition can be distinguished, which there almost always is in the case of a book. No idea whether or not the more recent posters can be distinguised from the 2008 and earlier lot in this case. Or whether it matters. I suspect not.
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Kaws NGV - COMPANIONSHIP IN THE AGE OF LONELINESS, by trapnel1 on Sept 1, 2020 16:50:18 GMT 1, Hey! I was following a copy on eBay which ended on Sunday. It was finally sold for 1,965โฌ... What happen with this print? First time I see a Kaws limited edition into free fall... Best! It seems to be a trend with prints that come with books... They don't tend to be so popular. But also, high price and HUGE edition. 750! There are exceptions... the recent Hockneys come to mind.
Hey! I was following a copy on eBay which ended on Sunday. It was finally sold for 1,965โฌ... What happen with this print? First time I see a Kaws limited edition into free fall... Best! It seems to be a trend with prints that come with books... They don't tend to be so popular. But also, high price and HUGE edition. 750! There are exceptions... the recent Hockneys come to mind.
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Help.. Mat brun, by trapnel1 on Jun 13, 2020 13:45:31 GMT 1, Are there not two separate possible problems here:
Mat burn, which would be due to acidic damage from the mat...
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UV fading / discolouration of the exposed part of the print.
Do you know which was involved? (or could be a little of both....)
Are there not two separate possible problems here:
Mat burn, which would be due to acidic damage from the mat...
Or
UV fading / discolouration of the exposed part of the print.
Do you know which was involved? (or could be a little of both....)
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Coronavirus effect on the art market?, by trapnel1 on Mar 13, 2020 12:05:07 GMT 1, I think the British gov need to do more, cancel big events and ban big gatherings. Close down London underground which is like a cesspit and shut down the schools from now until the end of Easter hols. Businesses can let people work from home. The problem with closing down schools is that parents then inevitably don't turn up for work in order to look after the kids; and that will include parents that work as doctors and nurses and hospital cleaners etc, i.e. people we desperately need at work.
We also need healthcare workers to be able to get to work, so closing down public transport is not an option either.
I think the British gov need to do more, cancel big events and ban big gatherings. Close down London underground which is like a cesspit and shut down the schools from now until the end of Easter hols. Businesses can let people work from home. The problem with closing down schools is that parents then inevitably don't turn up for work in order to look after the kids; and that will include parents that work as doctors and nurses and hospital cleaners etc, i.e. people we desperately need at work.
We also need healthcare workers to be able to get to work, so closing down public transport is not an option either.
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Sotheby's Contemporary Curated 6th March 2020 10:00 AM EST New York (343 lots) Keith Haring, Richard Hambleton, Andy Warhol, David Hockney,ย Yoshitomo Nara, KAWS, Invader, George Condo, Damien Hirst, Jonas Wood, Harland Miller,ย www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2020/contemporary-curated-n10321.html#&page=all&sort=lotSortNum-asc&viewMode=list&lot=206&scroll=32360www.invaluable.com/catalog/4re55s2tegResults www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2020/contemporary-curated-n10321.html#&page=all&sort=lotSortNum-asc&viewMode=list&lot=206&scroll=32360Interesting to see the Miller do so well in the US...
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Coronavirus effect on the art market?, by trapnel1 on Mar 1, 2020 11:33:09 GMT 1, Thing is, itโs widespread in Iran where itโs warm. Hopefully they have a cure by June
Pretty cool in Tehran still at this time of year - just starting to warm up now, so we'll have to see about the temperature effect. Won't help the southern hemisphere of course ....
We may know a little more about antiviral benefit by June, but vaccine will be next winter at the earliest I would think.
Thing is, itโs widespread in Iran where itโs warm. Hopefully they have a cure by June
Pretty cool in Tehran still at this time of year - just starting to warm up now, so we'll have to see about the temperature effect. Won't help the southern hemisphere of course ....
We may know a little more about antiviral benefit by June, but vaccine will be next winter at the earliest I would think.
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FUTURA - Catalogue R, by trapnel1 on Feb 8, 2020 18:57:00 GMT 1, As far as I am aware this is all kosher. Lenny posted about this on insta last year. Yep both his and Futura Labs accounts. Hugh is very slow to respond, but I did get a private response from FL on insta about it. Thanks - I will send an email....
As far as I am aware this is all kosher. Lenny posted about this on insta last year. Yep both his and Futura Labs accounts. Hugh is very slow to respond, but I did get a private response from FL on insta about it. Thanks - I will send an email....
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FUTURA - Catalogue R, by trapnel1 on Feb 8, 2020 13:43:55 GMT 1, Before it is too late, submit your Futura's artworks. As a first stage we need a photo, tittle, size, year of the painting.
I suspect there are quite a few members with Futura paintings. However, they will require a lot more information about this project before forwarding details....
Before it is too late, submit your Futura's artworks. As a first stage we need a photo, tittle, size, year of the painting. I suspect there are quite a few members with Futura paintings. However, they will require a lot more information about this project before forwarding details....
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Value Holding / Best Pieces / ETC, by trapnel1 on Jan 20, 2020 12:20:18 GMT 1, At below 1000 you would be able to get a signed book/books, posters, or some older signed multiples. Not a limited print though. They will probably hold their value but unlikely to appreciate much. As always, buy what you like, not the name....
At below 1000 you would be able to get a signed book/books, posters, or some older signed multiples. Not a limited print though. They will probably hold their value but unlikely to appreciate much. As always, buy what you like, not the name....
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Sold out, signed Joseph Tribles book, by trapnel1 on Jan 16, 2020 14:31:18 GMT 1, This one looks to have a signed print/page as well. Looks like a bargain Seems they only deliver in Italy...
I ordered one a few days ago and mine is on the way to the UK....
This one looks to have a signed print/page as well. Looks like a bargain Seems they only deliver in Italy... I ordered one a few days ago and mine is on the way to the UK....
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COUNTER EDITIONS UPCOMING PORTFOLIO RELEASE, by trapnel1 on Dec 15, 2019 14:27:07 GMT 1, Appreciate for most forum members this charity portfolio release was a disaster and people felt prices were too high and they couldn't get what they want. I can't change any of that but I have a few of the release now framed and on my wall after teaming up with a friend for a set. It also meant we have some of the prints now sat around in a folder and so I thought I would see if there was any interest in perhaps London-based members(or nearby) picking one up at heavily discounted prices ahead of Christmas. Maybe one would make a good present for someone. These are priced below my cost (although I appreciate I got some other nice prints too). Prints are: FREE โ Antony Gormley ยฃ2000 Singing In The Rain โ Rose Wylie ยฃ1400 Giant Pandas โ Rob Pruitt ยฃ1100 If I am off on pricing and these were cheaper on first release apologies, I have listed them like this with a view to give 10% of sales to Save The Children. Anyone interested I am in London SE5, look forward to some PMs and optimistically I would like to find these a home this week...
Seems like a great price on the Gormley in particular, given the size of these. Good luck with the sale....
Appreciate for most forum members this charity portfolio release was a disaster and people felt prices were too high and they couldn't get what they want. I can't change any of that but I have a few of the release now framed and on my wall after teaming up with a friend for a set. It also meant we have some of the prints now sat around in a folder and so I thought I would see if there was any interest in perhaps London-based members(or nearby) picking one up at heavily discounted prices ahead of Christmas. Maybe one would make a good present for someone. These are priced below my cost (although I appreciate I got some other nice prints too). Prints are: FREE โ Antony Gormley ยฃ2000 Singing In The Rain โ Rose Wylie ยฃ1400 Giant Pandas โ Rob Pruitt ยฃ1100 If I am off on pricing and these were cheaper on first release apologies, I have listed them like this with a view to give 10% of sales to Save The Children. Anyone interested I am in London SE5, look forward to some PMs and optimistically I would like to find these a home this week...
Seems like a great price on the Gormley in particular, given the size of these. Good luck with the sale....
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Barbara Kruger ๐บ๐ธ Graphic Design โข Art For Sale, by trapnel1 on Dec 12, 2019 17:17:33 GMT 1, Because of the success maybe they will release another 300...
For what it's worth, it clearly says "Pre-order the final production of Untitled (Kiss) now."
Because of the success maybe they will release another 300...
For what it's worth, it clearly says "Pre-order the final production of Untitled (Kiss) now."
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Kaws NGV - COMPANIONSHIP IN THE AGE OF LONELINESS, by trapnel1 on Dec 6, 2019 13:13:28 GMT 1, Definitely 0% on books. Anyone in the UK charged on this should appeal.
Definitely 0% on books. Anyone in the UK charged on this should appeal.
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Barbara Kruger ๐บ๐ธ Graphic Design โข Art For Sale, by trapnel1 on Dec 4, 2019 16:51:32 GMT 1, ok so this one should number 6 out of 600
The first lot just have a number between 1 and 300, with no indication of the limitation.
Presumably this run will be numbered from 301 to 600, again with no indication of the limitation.
ok so this one should number 6 out of 600
The first lot just have a number between 1 and 300, with no indication of the limitation.
Presumably this run will be numbered from 301 to 600, again with no indication of the limitation.
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Kaws NGV - COMPANIONSHIP IN THE AGE OF LONELINESS, by trapnel1 on Dec 3, 2019 20:54:58 GMT 1, Anyone able to confirm the actual size of the print? It's about 38 x 30 cm
Anyone able to confirm the actual size of the print? It's about 38 x 30 cm
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Nan Goldin, by trapnel1 on Dec 3, 2019 18:33:44 GMT 1, Has anyone received it? Any comments on the print quality? Really nice glossy print on good stock, signed to the front, and a good image. Very happy with it indeed. A bargain.
Has anyone received it? Any comments on the print quality? Really nice glossy print on good stock, signed to the front, and a good image. Very happy with it indeed. A bargain.
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Barbara Kruger ๐บ๐ธ Graphic Design โข Art For Sale, by trapnel1 on Dec 3, 2019 17:44:46 GMT 1, There are from second and final run of these. It was decided that all 500 stools will be the same. Price up a little too...
There are from second and final run of these. It was decided that all 500 stools will be the same. Price up a little too...
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What's the best Auction House for Harland Miller, by trapnel1 on Dec 3, 2019 14:58:34 GMT 1, Hi guys, need some advice. What's the best auction house to sell a Harland Miller? Thanks. Look at the past auction results of the major auction houses, and send details of what you would like to sell. If they are interested they will get back to you. Phillips have sold quite a few. Also worth sense checking with a couple of the bigger galleries who list his work - they may offer to buy straight out or take on consignment.
There's definitely a market far beyond this forum.
Hi guys, need some advice. What's the best auction house to sell a Harland Miller? Thanks. Look at the past auction results of the major auction houses, and send details of what you would like to sell. If they are interested they will get back to you. Phillips have sold quite a few. Also worth sense checking with a couple of the bigger galleries who list his work - they may offer to buy straight out or take on consignment.
There's definitely a market far beyond this forum.
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SWOON - 2007 Untilted Laser-cut print, by trapnel1 on Oct 9, 2019 14:18:47 GMT 1, I have an original from that era with the two fish - always attracts lots of comment. Good luck with the sale...
I have an original from that era with the two fish - always attracts lots of comment. Good luck with the sale...
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Barbara Kruger ๐บ๐ธ Graphic Design โข Art For Sale, by trapnel1 on Oct 9, 2019 14:16:02 GMT 1, Showing as Sold Out on the ICA website
Hope a few members picked this up amongst all the other excitement.....
Showing as Sold Out on the ICA website
Hope a few members picked this up amongst all the other excitement.....
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Signed Jonas Wood Book , by trapnel1 on Oct 7, 2019 15:01:08 GMT 1, I heard that they stamp the autographs inside the books... but not sure. Seems a bit unrealistic that they will receive 1500 signed books by Jonas Wood, or not? When customers complain they claim very often that books are flat signed, not bookplated. Whatever that means... does anyone know? Flat signed should mean personally signed by the author (or subject) on the actual book, and the signatures should therefore all differ somewhat..
Bookplated would be signed on a separate bookplate which is subsequently stuck into the book. Again, if the author has personally signed the bookplate the signatures should differ slightly.
Unfortunately other forms of signature (autopen, or stamped) have become common, especially on bookplates which are easily created.
It seems unlikely that an author or subject would sign 1500 copies for one retailer, but not impossible. Some independent verification would be nice.
I heard that they stamp the autographs inside the books... but not sure. Seems a bit unrealistic that they will receive 1500 signed books by Jonas Wood, or not? When customers complain they claim very often that books are flat signed, not bookplated. Whatever that means... does anyone know? Flat signed should mean personally signed by the author (or subject) on the actual book, and the signatures should therefore all differ somewhat..
Bookplated would be signed on a separate bookplate which is subsequently stuck into the book. Again, if the author has personally signed the bookplate the signatures should differ slightly.
Unfortunately other forms of signature (autopen, or stamped) have become common, especially on bookplates which are easily created.
It seems unlikely that an author or subject would sign 1500 copies for one retailer, but not impossible. Some independent verification would be nice.
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Sothebys online Banksy Auction Sept, by trapnel1 on Sept 19, 2019 17:25:14 GMT 1, The Strawberry Donut seems a real outlier to me compared with the Chocolate. Usually a little more, but this is strange. Both are in the Christies auction so will be interested to see if normality is restored.
The Strawberry Donut seems a real outlier to me compared with the Chocolate. Usually a little more, but this is strange. Both are in the Christies auction so will be interested to see if normality is restored.
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Harland Miller โข High on Hope Print, by trapnel1 on Sept 19, 2019 16:14:49 GMT 1, Its now priced in between this. I know some of this goes to charity but I agree itโs high. Especially after the last Manifolds prints. They were not much more than this at the initial release. It is ยฃ12k after discount? It's a tricky one as it's not often you see a Harland Miller print available from source. It is an easy size to frame and hang, it's a family friendly message, it is a Penguin, colours are great.....might be one that people regret not buying.... I agree - I like this; price seems about right and I'm sure these will sell out in due course. People looking around for a classic HM print will realise that these represent about the best value available; is there a cheaper Penguin anywhere else?
Its now priced in between this. I know some of this goes to charity but I agree itโs high. Especially after the last Manifolds prints. They were not much more than this at the initial release. It is ยฃ12k after discount? It's a tricky one as it's not often you see a Harland Miller print available from source. It is an easy size to frame and hang, it's a family friendly message, it is a Penguin, colours are great.....might be one that people regret not buying.... I agree - I like this; price seems about right and I'm sure these will sell out in due course. People looking around for a classic HM print will realise that these represent about the best value available; is there a cheaper Penguin anywhere else?
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Matt Small original and Charming Baker Signed Poster, by trapnel1 on Sept 19, 2019 12:55:58 GMT 1, I have a Matt Small original from the same era - never tire of it, and jt always attracts comment... The colours and depth of the paint are fantastic. Good luck with the sale.
I have a Matt Small original from the same era - never tire of it, and jt always attracts comment... The colours and depth of the paint are fantastic. Good luck with the sale.
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COUNTER EDITIONS UPCOMING PORTFOLIO RELEASE, by trapnel1 on Sept 16, 2019 21:01:10 GMT 1, I've purchased from CE a few times over the years, and have always found them excellent to deal with. Quality and packaging of their prints is second to none. There are advantages and disadvantages of a tiered pricing model, but that is their standard approach and it seems to work well for them. Almost all galleries give preference to regular clients, which is why building a relationship with a gallery is important rather than expecting to be able to dip in and easily purchase for the first time when there is heavy demand. And if it's not possible on this occasion because demand exceeds supply, there will always be more art to buy soon....
I've purchased from CE a few times over the years, and have always found them excellent to deal with. Quality and packaging of their prints is second to none. There are advantages and disadvantages of a tiered pricing model, but that is their standard approach and it seems to work well for them. Almost all galleries give preference to regular clients, which is why building a relationship with a gallery is important rather than expecting to be able to dip in and easily purchase for the first time when there is heavy demand. And if it's not possible on this occasion because demand exceeds supply, there will always be more art to buy soon....
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COUNTER EDITIONS UPCOMING PORTFOLIO RELEASE, by trapnel1 on Sept 13, 2019 14:26:22 GMT 1, I take it the Joyce Pensato are not signed?.... Signed and dated.... they've been working on this portfolio for a while.
I take it the Joyce Pensato are not signed?.... Signed and dated.... they've been working on this portfolio for a while.
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Harland Miller, International Lonely Guy, 2010, by trapnel1 on Sept 12, 2019 15:03:59 GMT 1, There was lots of interest this (now gone) and some good offers - many thanks to all. There's clearly still a strong market, regardless of the negativity in other threads...
There was lots of interest this (now gone) and some good offers - many thanks to all. There's clearly still a strong market, regardless of the negativity in other threads...
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Harland Miller โข High on Hope Print, by trapnel1 on Sept 12, 2019 15:00:35 GMT 1, Would have been better to have a new title. It feels like something from a few years ago. I appreciate itโs for a good cause but it just doesnโt excite me. The re-use of the title is clearly for a reason. My initial reaction is that this looks darker and more degraded than the 2014 version, as well as being smaller - maybe a reflection of the times in which we live. It would be interesting to hear his thoughts on it.
Would have been better to have a new title. It feels like something from a few years ago. I appreciate itโs for a good cause but it just doesnโt excite me. The re-use of the title is clearly for a reason. My initial reaction is that this looks darker and more degraded than the 2014 version, as well as being smaller - maybe a reflection of the times in which we live. It would be interesting to hear his thoughts on it.
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Harland Miller, International Lonely Guy, 2010, by trapnel1 on Sept 6, 2019 20:21:18 GMT 1, ***now sold***
A few pieces to let go, so will add to the thread over the next few days. Plenty of deals done on the forum before (though mainly buying!).
First up is this uncommon Harland Miller screenprint from 2010, signed and numbered from edition of 20, 125 x 100 cm. Framed by Pauli Frames, with UV plexiglass. Haven't seen this one for sale for a while so unsure on price - open to offers..
***now sold***
A few pieces to let go, so will add to the thread over the next few days. Plenty of deals done on the forum before (though mainly buying!).
First up is this uncommon Harland Miller screenprint from 2010, signed and numbered from edition of 20, 125 x 100 cm. Framed by Pauli Frames, with UV plexiglass. Haven't seen this one for sale for a while so unsure on price - open to offers..
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