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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by Deleted on Feb 12, 2009 22:12:54 GMT 1, another issue for me is that some people have paid good money for Splash on the secondary market, believing that it is a limited image.
another issue for me is that some people have paid good money for Splash on the secondary market, believing that it is a limited image.
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moleman
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by moleman on Feb 12, 2009 22:15:40 GMT 1, original edition of fifty not quite making sense but hey buy it if you like it
original edition of fifty not quite making sense but hey buy it if you like it
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stopthespray
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by stopthespray on Feb 12, 2009 22:18:04 GMT 1, Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth. If I had the original SPLASH I would be very annoyed right now. Bad business Grafter..Bad indeed!
Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth. If I had the original SPLASH I would be very annoyed right now. Bad business Grafter..Bad indeed!
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clock1989
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by clock1989 on Feb 12, 2009 22:19:27 GMT 1, Love it.Not going to buy it though as picked up a Red Canvas splash the other week. Nice work Grafter.
Love it.Not going to buy it though as picked up a Red Canvas splash the other week. Nice work Grafter.
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moleman
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by moleman on Feb 12, 2009 22:20:33 GMT 1,
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deepdownboy
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by deepdownboy on Feb 12, 2009 22:24:10 GMT 1, Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth.
Not a god choice of words for this particular artist, and for what Grafter does for charity hardly called form
Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth.
Not a god choice of words for this particular artist, and for what Grafter does for charity hardly called form
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Standard
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by Standard on Feb 12, 2009 22:25:40 GMT 1, Agree - lets keep the thread, like any other should be, polite & constructive.
be not
Agree - lets keep the thread, like any other should be, polite & constructive. be not
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moleman
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by moleman on Feb 12, 2009 22:27:44 GMT 1, good luck grafter asnd urban angel i still really love the weeping angel and in that frame it looks amazing (must be mr f)
good luck grafter asnd urban angel i still really love the weeping angel and in that frame it looks amazing (must be mr f)
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cadeallaw
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by cadeallaw on Feb 12, 2009 22:45:17 GMT 1, The image is one of the best images of the year... There has been a relatively small edition size for all of the Splash pieces released thus far... Furthermore, this is a Triptych on paper, which hasn't been released yet. I don't think that this release compromises the integrity of the original pieces in the slightest. Furthermore, I'd love to see what MisterFrameman could do with this
I'm really looking forward to seeing some of Grafter's new images for 2009. Incredible guy, that Grafter is.
The image is one of the best images of the year... There has been a relatively small edition size for all of the Splash pieces released thus far... Furthermore, this is a Triptych on paper, which hasn't been released yet. I don't think that this release compromises the integrity of the original pieces in the slightest. Furthermore, I'd love to see what MisterFrameman could do with this I'm really looking forward to seeing some of Grafter's new images for 2009. Incredible guy, that Grafter is.
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urbanangel
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by urbanangel on Feb 12, 2009 22:52:45 GMT 1, Grafter will be showing at our gallery later in 2009 and will most definitely be included in all group shows ongoing.
Grafter will be showing at our gallery later in 2009 and will most definitely be included in all group shows ongoing.
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daveart
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by daveart on Feb 12, 2009 23:14:39 GMT 1, i have grafter splash white on canvas and an eskimo child on canvas. couldnt be happier.. also have no worry that this degrades what i have. if anything it puts grafter in front of more people. gives him exposure and resources to do more work.
people did the same discussion when Nick Walker released new color/design variations on born 2 bomb as i recall. Murakami - regarded by some as a leading artist and savvy business man - releases color variations in the dozens of essentially the same DOB image - his call. he is the artist. i have four color variations of the DOB image and enjoy them all regardless of what he puts out tomorrow. Anyway, i ramble.. grafter is not the first or the last to build on a good image. good for him .. and lets hope for more stunning work in the future.
i have grafter splash white on canvas and an eskimo child on canvas. couldnt be happier.. also have no worry that this degrades what i have. if anything it puts grafter in front of more people. gives him exposure and resources to do more work.
people did the same discussion when Nick Walker released new color/design variations on born 2 bomb as i recall. Murakami - regarded by some as a leading artist and savvy business man - releases color variations in the dozens of essentially the same DOB image - his call. he is the artist. i have four color variations of the DOB image and enjoy them all regardless of what he puts out tomorrow. Anyway, i ramble.. grafter is not the first or the last to build on a good image. good for him .. and lets hope for more stunning work in the future.
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mash
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by mash on Feb 12, 2009 23:19:54 GMT 1, Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth. If I had the original SPLASH I would be very annoyed right now. Bad business Grafter..Bad indeed!
I think Grafter gives away as freebies more pieces than he sells, I bought the splash on boards and I don't care about the resale value right now and anyway I believe this adds to the popularity of the image and therefore the value of the original down the road.
Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth. If I had the original SPLASH I would be very annoyed right now. Bad business Grafter..Bad indeed! I think Grafter gives away as freebies more pieces than he sells, I bought the splash on boards and I don't care about the resale value right now and anyway I believe this adds to the popularity of the image and therefore the value of the original down the road.
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cadeallaw
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by cadeallaw on Feb 12, 2009 23:26:21 GMT 1, Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth. If I had the original SPLASH I would be very annoyed right now. Bad business Grafter..Bad indeed!
Don't take this the wrong way, but please, and i do mean please, kill yourself.
I think Grafter gives away as freebies more pieces than he sells...
Seriously... very generous, that Grafter is
Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth. If I had the original SPLASH I would be very annoyed right now. Bad business Grafter..Bad indeed! Don't take this the wrong way, but please, and i do mean please, kill yourself. I think Grafter gives away as freebies more pieces than he sells... Seriously... very generous, that Grafter is
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by spenie1975 on Feb 12, 2009 23:32:14 GMT 1, Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth. If I had the original SPLASH I would be very annoyed right now. Bad business Grafter..Bad indeed! Don't take this the wrong way, but please, and i do mean please, kill yourself. I think Grafter gives away as freebies more pieces than he sells... Seriously... very generous, that Grafter is Not the best post even in jest. People are entitled to an opinion.
Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth. If I had the original SPLASH I would be very annoyed right now. Bad business Grafter..Bad indeed! Don't take this the wrong way, but please, and i do mean please, kill yourself. I think Grafter gives away as freebies more pieces than he sells... Seriously... very generous, that Grafter is Not the best post even in jest. People are entitled to an opinion.
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cadeallaw
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by cadeallaw on Feb 12, 2009 23:43:07 GMT 1, Don't take this the wrong way, but please, and i do mean please, kill yourself. Seriously... very generous, that Grafter is Not the best post even in jest. People are entitled to an opinion.
As am I...
Listen, i see nothing wrong with a little constructive criticism, but coming on a public forum and saying that an artist/forum member, who is responsible for some AMAZING images, is "Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth", is a really ignorant thing to say. It neither backed by fact, nor is it constructive in any way... essentially, it is just some jackass who is trying to make a point by saying something inherently negative and demeaning (which is pretty much the same thing that I did).
I stand by my initial statement.
Don't take this the wrong way, but please, and i do mean please, kill yourself. Seriously... very generous, that Grafter is Not the best post even in jest. People are entitled to an opinion. As am I... Listen, i see nothing wrong with a little constructive criticism, but coming on a public forum and saying that an artist/forum member, who is responsible for some AMAZING images, is "Just another one hit wonder artist trying to milk it for everything it is worth", is a really ignorant thing to say. It neither backed by fact, nor is it constructive in any way... essentially, it is just some jackass who is trying to make a point by saying something inherently negative and demeaning (which is pretty much the same thing that I did). I stand by my initial statement.
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by spenie1975 on Feb 12, 2009 23:48:46 GMT 1, But to wish someone dead takes it to a different level. But as you say you stand by that statement.
But to wish someone dead takes it to a different level. But as you say you stand by that statement.
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cadeallaw
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by cadeallaw on Feb 12, 2009 23:56:45 GMT 1, But to wish someone dead takes it to a different level. But as you say you stand by that statement.
I don't necessarily wish him to have an accident or to get some horrible disease, but if any time in the near future, he ever finds himself contemplating his place in this cruel, cruel world...
But to wish someone dead takes it to a different level. But as you say you stand by that statement. I don't necessarily wish him to have an accident or to get some horrible disease, but if any time in the near future, he ever finds himself contemplating his place in this cruel, cruel world...
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by spenie1975 on Feb 13, 2009 0:04:57 GMT 1, He slagged off a print release by Grafter now if had nibbled the ear of the queen that would be different. I'll not be buying should I be on the look out for an old guy with a black top hat and a tape measure? 6 Foot 3" wooden casket with a velvet lining please, Straight to Hell by The Clash to be played before I burn as well.
He slagged off a print release by Grafter now if had nibbled the ear of the queen that would be different. I'll not be buying should I be on the look out for an old guy with a black top hat and a tape measure? 6 Foot 3" wooden casket with a velvet lining please, Straight to Hell by The Clash to be played before I burn as well.
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cadeallaw
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by cadeallaw on Feb 13, 2009 0:16:25 GMT 1, He slagged off a print release by Grafter now if had nibbled the ear of the queen that would be different. I'll not be buying should I be on the look out for an old guy with a black top hat and a tape measure? 6 Foot 3" wooden casket with a velvet lining please, Straight to Hell by The Clash to be played before I burn as well.
You missed my initial point... Not buying someone's art or a little constructive criticism is one thing; being inherantly negative and resorting to name calling is another.
As far as you are concerned, i don't feel that you have to be on the lookout for an 'old guy with a black top hat and a tape measure', however, I will make sure all of your requests are carried through if anything unfortunate were to happen
He slagged off a print release by Grafter now if had nibbled the ear of the queen that would be different. I'll not be buying should I be on the look out for an old guy with a black top hat and a tape measure? 6 Foot 3" wooden casket with a velvet lining please, Straight to Hell by The Clash to be played before I burn as well. You missed my initial point... Not buying someone's art or a little constructive criticism is one thing; being inherantly negative and resorting to name calling is another. As far as you are concerned, i don't feel that you have to be on the lookout for an 'old guy with a black top hat and a tape measure', however, I will make sure all of your requests are carried through if anything unfortunate were to happen
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pristine
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by pristine on Feb 13, 2009 0:25:17 GMT 1, Maybe I'm being stupid, but why is everyone calling this new image a triptych?
Maybe I'm being stupid, but why is everyone calling this new image a triptych?
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Billy Sport
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by Billy Sport on Feb 13, 2009 0:29:49 GMT 1, 3 across. A work consisting of three painted or carved panels that are hinged together
3 across. A work consisting of three painted or carved panels that are hinged together
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low3
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by low3 on Feb 13, 2009 0:32:14 GMT 1, Surely the only reason you could be angered by this latest release is that it might harm the marketability and price of the original runs that you own??
I myself have absolutely no problem whatsoever with this latest edition: its different to the other editions, and i think ยฃ400 for what is essentially a run of hand painted originals isn't too bad. Perhaps we've been spoilt by all the earlier cheap artist led sales?? If you wanted to look at it in a monetary sense, surely by releasing a different edition of a popular image that people across the pond are going mad for only increases his profile on both sides of the pond, increasing interest in him and making your original Splash releases worth more rather than diluting the pool?
My two penneth, for what its worth.
Surely the only reason you could be angered by this latest release is that it might harm the marketability and price of the original runs that you own??
I myself have absolutely no problem whatsoever with this latest edition: its different to the other editions, and i think ยฃ400 for what is essentially a run of hand painted originals isn't too bad. Perhaps we've been spoilt by all the earlier cheap artist led sales?? If you wanted to look at it in a monetary sense, surely by releasing a different edition of a popular image that people across the pond are going mad for only increases his profile on both sides of the pond, increasing interest in him and making your original Splash releases worth more rather than diluting the pool?
My two penneth, for what its worth.
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bonesy
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by bonesy on Feb 13, 2009 0:34:21 GMT 1, Grafter is a great guy and I think he is truly doing it to make folks happy (he just paid alot of free shipping goodies to expressobeans folks out of generosity) but I am personally always against when an artist makes another edition to satisfy public demand. Everyone loves and wants the image, thats wonderful and the ideal objective. But it is also sold as a limited edition numbered item and producing new variations of the item takes away from the limited edition aspect (and the integrity of the image IMO). I also think it is priced too high and ultimately wont sell well. Im sorry but I respectfully dont agree with your decision here Mr. Grafter.
Edit: I do own the first edition on paper but its not going anywhere so the value isnt a huge concern to me (believe it or dont believe it)).
Grafter is a great guy and I think he is truly doing it to make folks happy (he just paid alot of free shipping goodies to expressobeans folks out of generosity) but I am personally always against when an artist makes another edition to satisfy public demand. Everyone loves and wants the image, thats wonderful and the ideal objective. But it is also sold as a limited edition numbered item and producing new variations of the item takes away from the limited edition aspect (and the integrity of the image IMO). I also think it is priced too high and ultimately wont sell well. Im sorry but I respectfully dont agree with your decision here Mr. Grafter. Edit: I do own the first edition on paper but its not going anywhere so the value isnt a huge concern to me (believe it or dont believe it)).
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by tinkicker on Feb 13, 2009 0:41:39 GMT 1, good question!Maybe its because there is three similar images but different in colour so making them one of a kind!Hey I dont know ask GRAFTER hes a good bloke!lol
good question!Maybe its because there is three similar images but different in colour so making them one of a kind!Hey I dont know ask GRAFTER hes a good bloke!lol
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pristine
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by pristine on Feb 13, 2009 0:55:25 GMT 1, 3 across. A work consisting of three painted or carved panels that are hinged together
From the photos, it looks like these will be on single pieces of paper. Are they going to be cut into three?
3 across. A work consisting of three painted or carved panels that are hinged together From the photos, it looks like these will be on single pieces of paper. Are they going to be cut into three?
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by tinkicker on Feb 13, 2009 1:03:29 GMT 1, lol
lol
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urbanangel
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by urbanangel on Feb 13, 2009 1:06:05 GMT 1, If you remember the Adam Neate Triptych or the Hush Triptych, it's the same thing. Three images on 1 sheet of paper.
I hope that no one seriously cuts them into three, that'd be awful and the provenance wouldn't support it.
BTW, the price is actually ยฃ347...the additional ยฃ53 is VAT unfortunately.
Andrew
If you remember the Adam Neate Triptych or the Hush Triptych, it's the same thing. Three images on 1 sheet of paper.
I hope that no one seriously cuts them into three, that'd be awful and the provenance wouldn't support it.
BTW, the price is actually ยฃ347...the additional ยฃ53 is VAT unfortunately.
Andrew
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by curiousgeorge on Feb 13, 2009 1:15:49 GMT 1, Wiki says...
"In printmaking, an edition is a number of prints struck from one plate, usually at the same point in time. This is the meaning covered by this article. This may be a limited edition, with a fixed number of impressions produced on the understanding that no further impressions (copies) will be produced later, or an open edition limited only by the number that can be sold or produced before the plate wears. Most modern artists produce only limited editions, normally signed by the artist in pencil, and numbered as say 67/100 to show the unique number of that impression and the total edition size"
Wiki says...
"In printmaking, an edition is a number of prints struck from one plate, usually at the same point in time. This is the meaning covered by this article. This may be a limited edition, with a fixed number of impressions produced on the understanding that no further impressions (copies) will be produced later, or an open edition limited only by the number that can be sold or produced before the plate wears. Most modern artists produce only limited editions, normally signed by the artist in pencil, and numbered as say 67/100 to show the unique number of that impression and the total edition size"
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by rosstierney on Feb 13, 2009 1:17:44 GMT 1, when i opened the e-mail & seen the image i thought ok, there's more demand than supply so i can understand the logic
when i seen the price, i quickly checked the edition size then actually laughed out loud
the pair of you can't be serious? original or not, there's no way the work justifies ยฃ20k
if your heart was in the right place you would have released an edition of say 100, a new single colourway e.g. grey/black/red @ ยฃ100 to meet the current demand & to stop people cashing in on the original releases
it makes me sad
when i opened the e-mail & seen the image i thought ok, there's more demand than supply so i can understand the logic when i seen the price, i quickly checked the edition size then actually laughed out loud the pair of you can't be serious? original or not, there's no way the work justifies ยฃ20k if your heart was in the right place you would have released an edition of say 100, a new single colourway e.g. grey/black/red @ ยฃ100 to meet the current demand & to stop people cashing in on the original releases it makes me sad
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Grafter Splash - New Triptych available tomorrow, by etched on Feb 13, 2009 1:43:06 GMT 1, when i opened the e-mail & seen the image i thought ok, there's more demand than supply so i can understand the logic when i seen the price, i quickly checked the edition size then actually laughed out loud the pair of you can't be serious? original or not, there's no way the work justifies ยฃ20k if your heart was in the right place you would have released an edition of say 100, a new single colourway e.g. grey/black/red @ ยฃ100 to meet the current demand & to stop people cashing in on the original releases it makes me sad the power of expresso beans-
when i opened the e-mail & seen the image i thought ok, there's more demand than supply so i can understand the logic when i seen the price, i quickly checked the edition size then actually laughed out loud the pair of you can't be serious? original or not, there's no way the work justifies ยฃ20k if your heart was in the right place you would have released an edition of say 100, a new single colourway e.g. grey/black/red @ ยฃ100 to meet the current demand & to stop people cashing in on the original releases it makes me sad the power of expresso beans-
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