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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 17:30:50 GMT 1, i'd like to think that if I lived in the UK, I'd be meeting a lot of people I've met on here at the pub to discuss art. I don't have any friends "in real life" who share this passion with me, so I'm very glad I found this place
i'd like to think that if I lived in the UK, I'd be meeting a lot of people I've met on here at the pub to discuss art. I don't have any friends "in real life" who share this passion with me, so I'm very glad I found this place
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Real art collectors , by gatecrasher on Aug 31, 2014 20:25:35 GMT 1, Who wants to meet up for a beer ? I'd like a pint of
Who wants to meet up for a beer ? I'd like a pint of
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Real art collectors , by Lroy on Aug 31, 2014 20:38:27 GMT 1, i'd like to think that if I lived in the UK, I'd be meeting a lot of people I've met on here at the pub to discuss art. I don't have any friends "in real life" who share this passion with me, so I'm very glad I found this place i am like you mate, no friend to speak about art, movie or littรฉrature... They only like football - i like a little too but not only -, speak of politic ( berk ! ) - sex, fights, works, money , etc... This world becomes a bit mad , media, fashion and brants are thinking for them , instead of them. I am a bit fed up of all of this.
i'd like to think that if I lived in the UK, I'd be meeting a lot of people I've met on here at the pub to discuss art. I don't have any friends "in real life" who share this passion with me, so I'm very glad I found this place i am like you mate, no friend to speak about art, movie or littรฉrature... They only like football - i like a little too but not only -, speak of politic ( berk ! ) - sex, fights, works, money , etc... This world becomes a bit mad , media, fashion and brants are thinking for them , instead of them. I am a bit fed up of all of this.
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Real art collectors , by Lroy on Aug 31, 2014 20:39:03 GMT 1, Who wants to meet up for a beer ? I'd like a pint ofย nice painting !
Who wants to meet up for a beer ? I'd like a pint ofย nice painting !
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 21:09:02 GMT 1, Thanks dappy It wasn't meant to be a rant , more of a point ! The bigger your Bsnksy collection doesn't make you an art lover ! I'm trying to get across that those on here that Save every penny to buy a ยฃ50 print as they love the art are so much better than those that 'got lucky and think they are better
Thanks dappy It wasn't meant to be a rant , more of a point ! The bigger your Bsnksy collection doesn't make you an art lover ! I'm trying to get across that those on here that Save every penny to buy a ยฃ50 print as they love the art are so much better than those that 'got lucky and think they are better
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Real art collectors , by sky8888 on Aug 31, 2014 21:12:53 GMT 1, Cai - it's interesting you mention gardening. The way I've been developing my garden with planting combinations is the same reason I enjoy art, the different textures and colours and shapes etc. Have become intensely interested in it. I wonder if this is a frequent combination of interests with other members
Cai - it's interesting you mention gardening. The way I've been developing my garden with planting combinations is the same reason I enjoy art, the different textures and colours and shapes etc. Have become intensely interested in it. I wonder if this is a frequent combination of interests with other members
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 21:47:30 GMT 1, yip - stick to animals, plants and the countryside - at least that's my advice!
yip - stick to animals, plants and the countryside - at least that's my advice!
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 21:59:54 GMT 1, Cai - it's interesting you mention gardening. The way I've been developing my garden with planting combinations is the same reason I enjoy art, the different textures and colours and shapes etc. Have become intensely interested in it. I wonder if this is a frequent combination of interests with other members
Cai - it's interesting you mention gardening. The way I've been developing my garden with planting combinations is the same reason I enjoy art, the different textures and colours and shapes etc. Have become intensely interested in it. I wonder if this is a frequent combination of interests with other members
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Real art collectors , by Gard on Aug 31, 2014 22:36:09 GMT 1, It's getting hard to determine what's actually art on here. There's a really thin line between street art and graphic design, and a lot of "artists" is trying to camouflage it with a signed edition. Often the people that sell these pieces of paper give away one of them so the comments about the work itself is drowned in "I'm in" comments, so they won't get exposed as graphic designers. I would hate to be a newbie on this forum.
It's getting hard to determine what's actually art on here. There's a really thin line between street art and graphic design, and a lot of "artists" is trying to camouflage it with a signed edition. Often the people that sell these pieces of paper give away one of them so the comments about the work itself is drowned in "I'm in" comments, so they won't get exposed as graphic designers. I would hate to be a newbie on this forum.
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 22:39:26 GMT 1, It's getting hard to determine what's actually art on here. There's a really thin line between art and graphic design, and a lot of "artists" is trying to camouflage it with a signed edition. Often the people that sell these pieces of paper give away one of them so the comments about the work itself is drowned in "I'm in" comments, so they won't get exposed as graphic designers. I would hate to be a newbie on this forum. I'd like to respectively disagree. I believe "graphic design" is a medium, and that the final product is what should or shouldn't be considered "art", not the way it was produced
It's getting hard to determine what's actually art on here. There's a really thin line between art and graphic design, and a lot of "artists" is trying to camouflage it with a signed edition. Often the people that sell these pieces of paper give away one of them so the comments about the work itself is drowned in "I'm in" comments, so they won't get exposed as graphic designers. I would hate to be a newbie on this forum. I'd like to respectively disagree. I believe "graphic design" is a medium, and that the final product is what should or shouldn't be considered "art", not the way it was produced
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Real art collectors , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 31, 2014 22:54:23 GMT 1, I continue to find it quite ironic probably humorous that an artist so 'against' and with stated 'mockery' of the 'art world' now has implanted his works right in that body of 'society' and has collectors paying ridiculously inflated prices for pieces.
It may indeed just go to show the brilliance of 'banksy'. And the laughing stock the 'art world' can be at times...
I continue to find it quite ironic probably humorous that an artist so 'against' and with stated 'mockery' of the 'art world' now has implanted his works right in that body of 'society' and has collectors paying ridiculously inflated prices for pieces.
It may indeed just go to show the brilliance of 'banksy'. And the laughing stock the 'art world' can be at times...
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Real art collectors , by sky8888 on Aug 31, 2014 23:05:41 GMT 1, Cai - it's interesting you mention gardening. The way I've been developing my garden with planting combinations is the same reason I enjoy art, the different textures and colours and shapes etc. Have become intensely interested in it. I wonder if this is a frequent combination of interests with other members It's odd how we compartmentalize or categorize creativity. I think this is about intuition, skill set, environment, and the old nature /nurture balance. Personally I consider gardening an art at it's best, although this is lost on a lot of people in the UK, and perhaps better understood by the French. I have 'Art Of The Garden' that was published by the Tate several years ago, to go with the exhibition (I never got to see). It's surprising how many artists have also been gardeners, like Patrick Heron for example. I found the work of land and environmental artists interesting when I was younger, particularly Robert Smithson, but Derek Jarmans Garden finally did it for me - still my favorite garden of all time.ย To get back to this thread - given how far 3K could go with regard to creating a garden, or alternatively, buying a Banksy - with out any disrespect to Banksy, I know which I would prefer. As the old saying go's 'you pay your money and take your choice'.
It's true, I mean to me the appeal is very similar, but then it could be argued that fashion is the same and I am much less interested in that. Possibly because it seems more ego/people based and gardening is kind of the opposite (why it keeps you sane). I guess art as we know it is somewhere in the middle of that scale and leans to one way or another at various times
I went to the Hampton Court flower show last year and it was practically an art exhibition. But the show gardens are created for impact at that time of the year, in reality the success of a garden I would say should have year round appeal which is of course a whole other challenge, but the change (even the dying flower heads having their own appeal) and the growth and the elements that are out of your control are half the fun and beauty of the creation. It's never a static thing to stare at like a print is. This is possibly why I am starting to lean more towards abstract art. I find I'm getting bored more quickly of prints that just show one meaning, even if I appreciate them and think they are good art I am less keen to hang them in the house
I don't own a banksy either, but I live in Bristol and see them on the street so there's no need
Cai - it's interesting you mention gardening. The way I've been developing my garden with planting combinations is the same reason I enjoy art, the different textures and colours and shapes etc. Have become intensely interested in it. I wonder if this is a frequent combination of interests with other members It's odd how we compartmentalize or categorize creativity. I think this is about intuition, skill set, environment, and the old nature /nurture balance. Personally I consider gardening an art at it's best, although this is lost on a lot of people in the UK, and perhaps better understood by the French. I have 'Art Of The Garden' that was published by the Tate several years ago, to go with the exhibition (I never got to see). It's surprising how many artists have also been gardeners, like Patrick Heron for example. I found the work of land and environmental artists interesting when I was younger, particularly Robert Smithson, but Derek Jarmans Garden finally did it for me - still my favorite garden of all time.ย To get back to this thread - given how far 3K could go with regard to creating a garden, or alternatively, buying a Banksy - with out any disrespect to Banksy, I know which I would prefer. As the old saying go's 'you pay your money and take your choice'. It's true, I mean to me the appeal is very similar, but then it could be argued that fashion is the same and I am much less interested in that. Possibly because it seems more ego/people based and gardening is kind of the opposite (why it keeps you sane). I guess art as we know it is somewhere in the middle of that scale and leans to one way or another at various times I went to the Hampton Court flower show last year and it was practically an art exhibition. But the show gardens are created for impact at that time of the year, in reality the success of a garden I would say should have year round appeal which is of course a whole other challenge, but the change (even the dying flower heads having their own appeal) and the growth and the elements that are out of your control are half the fun and beauty of the creation. It's never a static thing to stare at like a print is. This is possibly why I am starting to lean more towards abstract art. I find I'm getting bored more quickly of prints that just show one meaning, even if I appreciate them and think they are good art I am less keen to hang them in the house I don't own a banksy either, but I live in Bristol and see them on the street so there's no need
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Real art collectors , by South Bound on Aug 31, 2014 23:11:06 GMT 1, It's getting hard to determine what's actually art on here. There's a really thin line between art and graphic design, and a lot of "artists" is trying to camouflage it with a signed edition. Often the people that sell these pieces of paper give away one of them so the comments about the work itself is drowned in "I'm in" comments, so they won't get exposed as graphic designers. I would hate to be a newbie on this forum.
Wow, that is total nonsense.
It's getting hard to determine what's actually art on here. There's a really thin line between art and graphic design, and a lot of "artists" is trying to camouflage it with a signed edition. Often the people that sell these pieces of paper give away one of them so the comments about the work itself is drowned in "I'm in" comments, so they won't get exposed as graphic designers. I would hate to be a newbie on this forum. Wow, that is total nonsense.
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Real art collectors , by Gard on Aug 31, 2014 23:21:36 GMT 1, Thank you Richard! I'm aiming my comment at street art, not art as a whole. Just forgot to put street in there..
I think it's too easy to become a "street artist" these days. Same thing happened to photography a couple of years back. Suddenly everyone had a digital camera and called them selves photographers. Something similar is happening to street art.
Thank you Richard! I'm aiming my comment at street art, not art as a whole. Just forgot to put street in there.. I think it's too easy to become a "street artist" these days. Same thing happened to photography a couple of years back. Suddenly everyone had a digital camera and called them selves photographers. Something similar is happening to street art.
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 23:37:30 GMT 1, ... if we are moving onto cheetahs, this a photo that I took a couple of weeks ago ... and I wasn't in a zoo ... Amazing Shot!I follow Nat Geo on Instagram. Theyre promoting one of their photographers who is having a "sale" of his big cat works to raise money for charity. www.workingprints.com/
This leopard is awesome. $75
... if we are moving onto cheetahs, this a photo that I took a couple of weeks ago ... and I wasn't in a zoo ... Amazing Shot!I follow Nat Geo on Instagram. Theyre promoting one of their photographers who is having a "sale" of his big cat works to raise money for charity. www.workingprints.com/This leopard is awesome. $75
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Real art collectors , by South Bound on Aug 31, 2014 23:53:02 GMT 1, , Wow, that is total nonsense. I think what Gard's trying to say is "There's a really thin line between street art and graphic design, and a lot of "artists" is trying to camouflage it with a signed edition". Meaning 'artists' and online poster shops trying to pass off print editions as some sort of documented form of street art. And if that's the case, then I wholeheartedly agree with him. Take the godawful computer-generated vectors and toy squiggles of that talentless biter Whatson for example.
I find the argument of trying to define who is an artist and who isn't, incredibly absurd.
, Wow, that is total nonsense. I think what Gard's trying to say is "There's a really thin line between street art and graphic design, and a lot of "artists" is trying to camouflage it with a signed edition". Meaning 'artists' and online poster shops trying to pass off print editions as some sort of documented form of street art. And if that's the case, then I wholeheartedly agree with him. Take the godawful computer-generated vectors and toy squiggles of that talentless biter Whatson for example. I find the argument of trying to define who is an artist and who isn't, incredibly absurd.
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Real art collectors , by Coach on Sept 1, 2014 0:14:58 GMT 1, i'd like to think that if I lived in the UK, I'd be meeting a lot of people I've met on here at the pub to discuss art. I don't have any friends "in real life" who share this passion with me, so I'm very glad I found this place
I'd be in that pub with you fed, chatting about art, life, the universe. It would be a blast I reckon.
i'd like to think that if I lived in the UK, I'd be meeting a lot of people I've met on here at the pub to discuss art. I don't have any friends "in real life" who share this passion with me, so I'm very glad I found this place I'd be in that pub with you fed, chatting about art, life, the universe. It would be a blast I reckon.
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 0:15:59 GMT 1, I would be too. Fed we're actually close in proximity, fairly. lol
I would be too. Fed we're actually close in proximity, fairly. lol
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 0:17:36 GMT 1, I continue to find it quite ironic probably humorous that an artist so 'against' and with stated 'mockery' of the 'art world' now has implanted his works right in that body of 'society' and has collectors paying ridiculously inflated prices for pieces. It may indeed just go to show the brilliance of 'banksy'. And the laughing stock the 'art world' can be at times... Are you referring to Banksy?.
Are you saying he is responsible for the secondary and later market of his works after they were sold at source?.
Do you really think he gives a fk about collectors paying 'ridiculous inflated' prices?.
I continue to find it quite ironic probably humorous that an artist so 'against' and with stated 'mockery' of the 'art world' now has implanted his works right in that body of 'society' and has collectors paying ridiculously inflated prices for pieces. It may indeed just go to show the brilliance of 'banksy'. And the laughing stock the 'art world' can be at times... Are you referring to Banksy?. Are you saying he is responsible for the secondary and later market of his works after they were sold at source?. Do you really think he gives a fk about collectors paying 'ridiculous inflated' prices?.
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 0:19:36 GMT 1, I would be too. Fed we're actually close in proximity, fairly. lol Yeah? Where are you?
I would be too. Fed we're actually close in proximity, fairly. lol Yeah? Where are you?
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Real art collectors , by graffuturism on Sept 1, 2014 0:19:51 GMT 1, When I first came to this forum (I think it was 4 years ago) it was about art and people discussed the newest walls and the commented on the new exhibitions. Today none cares about the exhibitions and it's all about the prints. Not just Banksy prints, but prints by "artist" that has never done anything and just released an overly hyped print in edition 300 with 6 color ways, 3 different versions on aluminum, some canvas versions, hand sprayed on paper (or found object, preferably booth) and of course hand finished versions. These artists doesn't add anything to this forum or the art scene (don't know if it fit in here, but it ruins the forum). This. thirded
When I first came to this forum (I think it was 4 years ago) it was about art and people discussed the newest walls and the commented on the new exhibitions. Today none cares about the exhibitions and it's all about the prints. Not just Banksy prints, but prints by "artist" that has never done anything and just released an overly hyped print in edition 300 with 6 color ways, 3 different versions on aluminum, some canvas versions, hand sprayed on paper (or found object, preferably booth) and of course hand finished versions. These artists doesn't add anything to this forum or the art scene (don't know if it fit in here, but it ruins the forum). This. thirded
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 0:20:31 GMT 1, I would be too. Fed we're actually close in proximity, fairly. lol Yeah? Where are you? Toronto. Youre in Rochester or upstate right? I "think"...
I would be too. Fed we're actually close in proximity, fairly. lol Yeah? Where are you? Toronto. Youre in Rochester or upstate right? I "think"...
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Real art collectors , by South Bound on Sept 1, 2014 0:27:32 GMT 1, I find the argument of trying to define who is an artist and who isn't, incredibly absurd. So do I, and I'd imagine Gard would too. That's not what he or I are saying.
You bash the squiggles (which was actually quite funny) and called Watson a talentless biter... Taken at face value with the rest of your argument can be easily seen as qualifying who is an artist and who isn't.
I find the argument of trying to define who is an artist and who isn't, incredibly absurd. So do I, and I'd imagine Gard would too. That's not what he or I are saying. You bash the squiggles (which was actually quite funny) and called Watson a talentless biter... Taken at face value with the rest of your argument can be easily seen as qualifying who is an artist and who isn't.
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 0:27:30 GMT 1, Toronto. Youre in Rochester or upstate right? I "think"... Ah that's right I remember you told me that. I'm in Albany - about 2.5 hours north of NYC
Toronto. Youre in Rochester or upstate right? I "think"... Ah that's right I remember you told me that. I'm in Albany - about 2.5 hours north of NYC
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Real art collectors , by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 1, 2014 0:38:10 GMT 1, I continue to find it quite ironic probably humorous that an artist so 'against' and with stated 'mockery' of the 'art world' now has implanted his works right in that body of 'society' and has collectors paying ridiculously inflated prices for pieces. It may indeed just go to show the brilliance of 'banksy'. And the laughing stock the 'art world' can be at times... Are you referring to Banksy?. Are you saying he is responsible for the secondary and later market of his works after they were sold at source?. Do you really think he gives a fk about collectors paying 'ridiculous inflated' prices?.
I'm not saying he's responsible for anything.
Well if he really is the 'genius' he seems to be he actually probably is responsible and fortold all this and still continues to laugh at the schmucks of the 'art world'.
And here's all the 'art collectors' praising banksy for his ideology and then being suckered into the thing they are against.
Like I said continuous irony.
I continue to find it quite ironic probably humorous that an artist so 'against' and with stated 'mockery' of the 'art world' now has implanted his works right in that body of 'society' and has collectors paying ridiculously inflated prices for pieces. It may indeed just go to show the brilliance of 'banksy'. And the laughing stock the 'art world' can be at times... Are you referring to Banksy?. Are you saying he is responsible for the secondary and later market of his works after they were sold at source?. Do you really think he gives a fk about collectors paying 'ridiculous inflated' prices?. I'm not saying he's responsible for anything. Well if he really is the 'genius' he seems to be he actually probably is responsible and fortold all this and still continues to laugh at the schmucks of the 'art world'. And here's all the 'art collectors' praising banksy for his ideology and then being suckered into the thing they are against. Like I said continuous irony.
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Real art collectors , by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 0:46:05 GMT 1, Are you referring to Banksy?. Are you saying he is responsible for the secondary and later market of his works after they were sold at source?. Do you really think he gives a fk about collectors paying 'ridiculous inflated' prices?. I'm not saying he's responsible for anything. Well if he really is the 'genius' he seems to be he actually probably is responsible and fortold all this and still continues to laugh at the schmucks of the 'art world'. And here's all the 'art collectors' praising banksy for his ideology and then being suckered into the thing they are against. Like I said continuous irony. It is the aftermarket that you should look towards, not Banksy. You do know the auction sales and the sotheby affair were fk all to do with him yes?.
You should also read up on the meaning of 'irony'.
Are you referring to Banksy?. Are you saying he is responsible for the secondary and later market of his works after they were sold at source?. Do you really think he gives a fk about collectors paying 'ridiculous inflated' prices?. I'm not saying he's responsible for anything. Well if he really is the 'genius' he seems to be he actually probably is responsible and fortold all this and still continues to laugh at the schmucks of the 'art world'. And here's all the 'art collectors' praising banksy for his ideology and then being suckered into the thing they are against. Like I said continuous irony. It is the aftermarket that you should look towards, not Banksy. You do know the auction sales and the sotheby affair were fk all to do with him yes?. You should also read up on the meaning of 'irony'.
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Real art collectors , by .dappy on Sept 1, 2014 0:59:59 GMT 1, Amazing Shot!I follow Nat Geo on Instagram. Theyre promoting one of their photographers who is having a "sale" of his big cat works to raise money for charity. www.workingprints.com/ Thank you - I am not on instagram - but NG are great and I love their magazine.
Came across these two bad boys one early misty morning ... but as has been noted - anyone with a digital camera is now a professional photographer ...
Amazing Shot!I follow Nat Geo on Instagram. Theyre promoting one of their photographers who is having a "sale" of his big cat works to raise money for charity. www.workingprints.com/ Thank you - I am not on instagram - but NG are great and I love their magazine. Came across these two bad boys one early misty morning ... but as has been noted - anyone with a digital camera is now a professional photographer ...
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Real art collectors , by sin on Sept 1, 2014 1:46:35 GMT 1, Oh to live in a place where there are enough serious urban art collectors to actually categorize them as being real and fake. Back to being the only weirdo in Boca Raton that doesn't only talk about sports or cars...
Oh to live in a place where there are enough serious urban art collectors to actually categorize them as being real and fake. Back to being the only weirdo in Boca Raton that doesn't only talk about sports or cars...
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