[snorky]

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banksy-Grannies-signed-and-numbered_W0QQitemZ330062065591QQihZ014QQcategoryZ360QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

signed grannies, but rather than it being out of 150, its out of 500 - as if its just a normal numbered edition, but with a carefully added sig. at a later date in the style of the "artist" - not that Im saying this is a fake of course, Im just interested in this example

[pawl]

This is probably not right!

Plus he's not offering any provenance at all - POW would be able to confirm their purchase of signed Gannies.

As we all know POW do make some numbering errors - but they correct them.

[aimless]

I would steer clear, buy another one if you are interested

[numusic]

It looks spot on, I imagine it's another POW 'Human Error", ask the seller for his name and check it with POW. This has happened more than once, and no doubt will be happening again.

[numusic]

snorky said:

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banksy-Grannies-signed-and-numbered_W0QQitemZ330062065591QQihZ014QQcategoryZ360QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

signed grannies, but rather than it being out of 150, its out of 500 - as if its just a normal numbered edition, but with a carefully added sig. at a later date in the style of the "artist" - not that Im saying this is a fake of course, Im just interested in this example

oopps.. it's the same print as this unnumbered one isn't it ? same main photo anyway. Something amiss !

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220061064641&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D220061064641%26fvi%3D1

[snorky]

The number is in the right place - i.e. the right side of the print for a signed version, but the fact that the seller is distancing himself from the prints veracity doesnt inspire confidence - its bad selling tecnique at the very least

Im not after one, but wouldnt touch this anyway, given that theres a load of others about for around the £2K mark

[snorky]

Hmm....someones got multiple Ebay ID I think - unless they are flatmates and used the exact same tea mugs to hold the print whilt taking snaps.

[soundman]

I had this reply back from dcneal74( 42)330062065591

when i asked him to explain the numbering.

"I really do not know about the print number and the signatures. I noticed the signed 150 thing as well, but didn?t question it when POW sent me the print.. I did check out some other signed ones and they were the same though? I hope this helps.
I can assure you that the print is 100% authentic."

then this reply when i asked about the clone post



"thats my mate's print.. he doesn't have a camera! (or mugs).. I asked him to wait a week. but he hasn't..
I have a rubbish selection of mugs also.."

[corblimeylimey]

It sounds genuine enough, but personally I would like POW to rectify the numbering problem, it's going to cause trouble in the future.

[robo]

I asked the guy to forward me his POW receipt. He did and it says that the print cost him £500. I thought those prints went for £200 signed? Also the email didn't include the POW order no...

[corblimeylimey]

It was £500 for signed and £200 for unsigned.

Why not phone POW and get them to confirm the owner and ask if the numbering can be sorted out?

[Run Pig Run]

it's real. no-one has ever faked a print on ebay yet.

[Hoops]

Bomb hugger,
We are not taliking about faking a print but more like someone getting a low numbered unsigned print and then adding a signature

[RBK]

I would bet it was human error @pow. Looks spot on with numbering and the signature. While he says he has no provenance - ask for a bank/credit card statement showing the charge. Then you have their name and proof that it was purchased.

[Ågent ßacardi]

I think the only sure way to authenticate this one is:

1) Contact POW, ask them if this number matches with the seller's name in both the signed and unsigned databases.

2) If the name matches in the unsigned batch, there's a chance that this may be the work of a really great signature forger (Banksy's signature isn't *that* complicated). Not 100%, but a chance nonetheless. Should definitely proceed with caution.

3) If the name matches in the signed batch, then it's probably POW error. They must have written '500' instead of '150' by mistake... in which case, it should be fixed either before or after the sale - provided that POW is agreeable. I wouldn't proceed with the purchase unless POW has agreed to fix the boo-boo after it's in your hands. If not, and if you win the auction, perhaps the seller can get it fixed via POW before sending it to you.

Logical, no?

****EDIT****

Just realized that this listing has ended, so perhaps it's all moot But... I also just realized that this number was 112/500... if the bidder is entirely honest, then it should definitely be a POW error. My Trolley Hunters is 110 and my Festival is 127, which makes me think that number 112 of Grannies should almost definitely have been sold at Barely Legal in Los Angeles, and therefore should not have the POW stamp. And it should definitely not be signed if that's the case. I certainly hope the winning bidder didn't jump into it without doing some prior research...

[pastiepie]

You would've thought that if the seller was going to goto the effort of forging a signature he would just erase the numbering of /500 to /150. It wouldn't be that hard to do.
For those reasons I reckon it was legit. Considering the prices of some of the items POW sell you'd think they'd take a bit more care numbering their items.