[sircoxson]

hello forum members,

I might want to sell this lovely piece from my little dran collection in order to raise some money for other desired art: www.Expressobeans/public/detail.php/131431

any ideas what the going rate would be? I understand they are rather rare, expressobeans shows just one sell from '11.

thanks for your opinions!

[xmyart]

no idea what its worth, but its bloody lovely!!!

[fingerz]

[sircoxson]

xmyart: it definitely is! print is an edition of 99. signed and numbered.

still not sure about market value, though...

[swan]

Think you can still get them at source for 170 Euros, that's half what i paid before I knew better... sorry mate. Pains me to think about it too!

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[therivler1]

Nov 17, 2011 12:42:12 GMT 1 swan said:

Think you can still get them at source for 170 Euros, that's half what i paid before I knew better... sorry mate. Pains me to think about it too!

spill the beans man. where at?

[gibbin82]

Nov 17, 2011 13:06:32 GMT 1 @cnh said:

Where from swan ? Id like to get one.

I did know of a place that had a few of Dran prints, however the gallery was very concerned about them falling into the hands of flippers so I believe they would just shut up shop and deny they had any if the link was put on a forum and they suddenly had a rush of orders

[hunter007]

Nov 17, 2011 14:41:30 GMT 1 gibbin82 said:

Nov 17, 2011 13:06:32 GMT 1 @cnh said:

Where from swan ? Id like to get one.

I did know of a place that had a few of Dran prints, however the gallery was very concerned about them falling into the hands of flippers so I believe they would just shut up shop and deny they had any if the link was put on a forum and as a result they suddenly got a rush of orders

ha what the ? surely its for the gallery to decide if it wants to sell its art ? if they were overly concerned then why dont they up there proces or sell via ebay ?

i smell ........

[fairplay1974]

Indeed, galleries are there to make money as any business is.....I'm sure in the current economic climate they'd give one about someone flipping a print!

[gibbin82]

Nov 17, 2011 14:45:33 GMT 1 @hunter007 said:

Nov 17, 2011 14:41:30 GMT 1 gibbin82 said:

I did know of a place that had a few of Dran prints, however the gallery was very concerned about them falling into the hands of flippers so I believe they would just shut up shop and deny they had any if the link was put on a forum and as a result they suddenly got a rush of orders

ha what the ? surely its for the gallery to decide if it wants to sell its art ? if they were overly concerned then why dont they up there proces or sell via ebay ?

i smell ........

Maybe they have connections to the artist and it his wish that they don't get sold on eBay for inflated prices.... just a thought

[hunter007]

Nov 17, 2011 14:50:10 GMT 1 gibbin82 said:

Nov 17, 2011 14:45:33 GMT 1 @hunter007 said:

ha what the ? surely its for the gallery to decide if it wants to sell its art ? if they were overly concerned then why dont they up there proces or sell via ebay ?

i smell ........

Maybe they have connections to the artist and it his wish that they don't get sold on eBay for inflated prices.... just a thought

Maybe they dont ...

[gibbin82]

All I can go on is my own experience, that is I purchased a Tank Girl print from them with no problems, but when I later inquired about an Audio print, they said they didn't have any of Drans work for sale, however I know they have sold an Audio print since to a forum member. They also have close connections with the artist and that they may still have some Dran prints that are now several years after the release, shows they are not particularly bothered about shifting them quickly. So draw your own conclusions from that, mine is as in my previous posts

Not all galleries and collectors are only in it for the money, some actually appreciate the art they sell or own.

[hunter007]

Still you can see why this seems and odd thing to hold back info though surely? Maybe its just me though, I dont actually wont one i was just hoping to make a quick buck on ebay,...,

I was not saying this gallery are only in it for the money , but i wpuld put money on it that they like to sell there work though, as it is there business. anyways ill leave you alone now, have you an ebay account ? just wondered where to check for Dran work (joke)

[fairplay1974]

Why is this gallery shrowded in mystery....Name them and let's give it a go!

[pidge]

If its the same gallery I'm thinking of I had the same experience, I literally had an interview to prove my love for the artist before they would send me out a catalogue of all the available works, even though previously when I called they said they had none. They do have very close links with the artist and it was on his orders that they vet potential customers to ensure that the prints and pieces were not sold for financial gain and for true fans. First time I have ever come across a gallery behaving like that. Must be the same place? After passing my exam they were very helpful though I will say that......

[fairplay1974]

Ok I'll give up asking....Obviously don't know the correct handshake!

I'm not interested ever in flipping, I buy for my collection/walls and I buy what I like....However, no matter what vetting process a gallery used there is no way they could police or enforce you selling on what they have sold you. Google would very likely get you through a vetting process as well. You could potentially forego any relationship with them moving forward, but they'd have to see you sale the item publicly (eBay or forum for example) to even know you had!

I see nothing wrong with their intentions at all, but in the real world is it enforcable?!

[Shoot Again]

Nov 17, 2011 15:06:38 GMT 1 gibbin82 said:

All I can go on is my own experience, that is I purchased a Tank Girl print from them with no problems, but when I later inquired about an Audio print, they said they didn't have any of Drans work for sale, however I know they have sold an Audio print since to a forum member. They also have close connections with the artist and that they may still have some Dran prints that are now several years after the release, shows they are not particularly bothered about shifting them quickly. So draw your own conclusions from that, mine is as in my previous posts

Not all galleries and collectors are only in it for the money, some actually appreciate the art they sell or own.

+1

That was me then ;-) And the price was EUR 170 indeed. This gallery has now shut down though so not really worth playing trying to guess which one it was, won't help any longer...

[pidge]

Yep thats the one!!

[fairplay1974]

So after all the smoke and mirrors it was just GHP Gallery in Toulouse!!!!

[hunter007]

Just sent them a she load of emails saying the Banksy Forum sent me,,,,

[Deleted]

Nov 17, 2011 16:29:15 GMT 1 fairplay1974 said:

So after all the smoke and mirrors it was just GHP Gallery in Toulouse!!!!

Yes it is !! Only a few of us knew about this gallery !!

Clever guy like me and another French mate here had the similar idea after the POW Dec. hype. Since Dran is from Toulouse, we looked for galleries in Toulouse to track old cheaper Dran... Easy job since there was only one major contemporary gallery...

I posted this in January 2011 after the December hype !
urbanartassociation.com/index.cgi?board=dran&action=print&thread=63663

Yes there is a Dran website - retroactif.free.fr/dran/

And if you search very very very very very hard, you can find a hand signed and numbered giclee poster (30x40 cm - edition of 99) for 55 euros only ... Found some but I have been told no Paypal - only method of payment is bank transfer which I can't do from Kenya - or wait for online shop to open (in a month time). So I keep my mouth shut until shop is open - unless a French guy is ready to purchase two (and I reimburse via Paypal)

As said above, they have close down now.

To cut the story short, I didn't buy any and only gave the contact via PM to three persons here (kept the secret at gallery's wish)... nor the cheap OG offered by Zim here. Then the guy was suspicious like said above and went underground... Can I cry now ?