[qprfc1967]

have a rat with camera on side of my van , it was done in the notting hill area of london about 3/4 years ago at the same time two other identical rats appeared , 1 to the right of the cock & bottle pub & 1 to the left of the pub ( which is on Artesian rd ) am thinking of cutting out any ideas /advice

[HowAboutNo]

qprfc1967 said:

have a rat with camera on side of my van .... am thinking of cutting out any ideas /advice

FFFFttt! Here we go again! Why don't you go and steal the identical two and then you'll have a matching set?!

If you have the brains to think you want to cut a hole in the side of your van then am sure you are enterprising enough to buy an angle grinder and cut the f**ker out. Then a welding gun to slap a new bit of van to the old one.

What do you really expect advice wise??

[mido]

Banksy has done several vans in several places.

Personally my advice is to somehow try to keep the van (wrking or not) and enjoy the piece as it is - in situ - where it was supposed to be. Can't see the point of cutting it out. You'll just get loads of hassle over its provenance anyway.

howaboutno said:

qprfc1967 said:

have a rat with camera on side of my van .... am thinking of cutting out any ideas /advice

FFFFttt! Here we go again! Why don't you go and steal the identical two and then you'll have a matching set?!

If you have the brains to think you want to cut a hole in the side of your van then am sure you are enterprising enough to buy an angle grinder and cut the f**ker out. Then a welding gun to slap a new bit of van to the old one.

What do you really expect advice wise??

[numusic]

howaboutno said:

qprfc1967 said:

have a rat with camera on side of my van .... am thinking of cutting out any ideas /advice

FFFFttt! Here we go again! Why don't you go and steal the identical two and then you'll have a matching set?!

If you have the brains to think you want to cut a hole in the side of your van then am sure you are enterprising enough to buy an angle grinder and cut the f**ker out. Then a welding gun to slap a new bit of van to the old one.

What do you really expect advice wise??

He wants to know if he can sell it at Bonhams next sale of course.. the answer is NO !, i bought a stencil off ebay and did loads of vans round your end, your bit of scrap metal is worth zilch, same as the van after you've cut a big bloody hole in it.

[qprfc1967]

thanks 4 the positive advice as for " how about no " get a grip was only asking ! and how can you steal graffiti , its plonkers like numusic who think they are clever "stealing" someone elses clever , ingenius ideas and spraying other peoples property ,
if he could please post his details to me i would love to share some of my designs on his motor, thanks again to the decent majority who can offer chat with intelligence

[monochrome]

if you want to hang it on your wall, then cool - but i doubt you'd get much for it should you want to sell it. there are 100s of similar stencils for sale on ebay.

[numusic]

qprfc1967 said:

thanks 4 the positive advice as for " how about no " get a grip was only asking ! and how can you steal graffiti , its plonkers like numusic who think they are clever "stealing" someone elses clever , ingenius ideas and spraying other peoples property ,
if he could please post his details to me i would love to share some of my designs on his motor, thanks again to the decent majority who can offer chat with intelligence

Hey, I'm blek and I did it first.. by the way, I live at 10 Downing Street, cars usually parked by the gates. just ask the nice man at the entrance and he'll sort you. Ignore the uniform, it's just for show.

Peace.

PS : Speaking of intelligence, i'm not the one contemplating cutting a hole in my car cos some vandal daubed it with a picture of a rat

[qprfc1967]

so banksy is a vandal now & not an artist , or if he does it its art the likes of you your vandal ..........why ?

[HowAboutNo]

qprfc1967 said:

so banksy is a vandal now & not an artist , or if he does it its art the likes of you your vandal ..........why ?

Sorry, what you said doesnt make sense...and monochrome and Nu have both pointed out that the stencil is available everywhere on Ebay, so proving its really by banksy is next to impossible.

Obviously you are not stealing it, as its your van, but you posted a message 3 months ago saying "anyone seen the rat on a van going round london" and left it at that, why not say it was your van at the time? Why not post a picture and share it? No, you just turn up a few months later when you realise that maybe you could be making a fast buck and nothing else.

Banksy is both an artist and a vandal - that speaks for itself, so is anyone else that uses a spray can or other means to daub a public wall - but I really couldnt care less as to what he calls himself.

I just got wound up that you have obviously already seen the pound signs flashing before your eyes and decided that you can make a bit of money and run - so why do you need advice? Just do it and see how well you fair. Good luck to you but I hope you fall flat on your face. Not because you are "removing an artists work" just because your a greedy mug who should just do whatever you want - as you probably would done have regardless of what anyone's opinion on here would be.

Is that eloquent enough for ya?

[HowAboutNo]

And if you didnt want opinions that you dont like, then why ask for them?

[KaL976]

Leaving the whole is it real or not thing to one side...
Surely the obvious thing to do given the current market is to put the whole damn van on ebay & buy a new one with the proceeds
I hear the one at the LA show went for $500K

[numusic]

qprfc1967 said:

so banksy is a vandal now & not an artist , or if he does it its art the likes of you your vandal ..........why ?

if you paint on the outside of a gallery wall you're called a criminal, if you paint on the inside, an artist.. go figure

[LoveRat]

qprfc1967 said:

so banksy is a vandal now & not an artist , or if he does it its art the likes of you your vandal ..........why ?

Banksy has always been a vandal , especially in your case , sorry no pun intended
I guess its a question of permission .
I suppose you were pissed off at the time , now you can't believe your f***ing luck Can't be many vans go up in value.

[qprfc1967]

calm down , iam just interested in its authenticity , would not be willing to sell it , if it was ( which i now know it probally isnt ) original would of cut it to keep it as i am quite fond of it .
i was actually stopped by a photographer in twickenham who asked to take snaps for artofthestate.
no need to get wound up , not greedy cash hunting MUG , am quite a fan of his work , have his books & visited the galllery on westbourne grove . hope this makes u feel better thanks for your opinion but just try not to get so personal mabye speak again

p.s photo of van is on flickr posted by abc

[mido]

did steve (artofthestate) put it up on his excellent site?

have a go on the footy thread. football is less contentious than art! ;D

can't find u on flikr - help

qprfc1967 said:

calm down , iam just interested in its authenticity , would not be willing to sell it , if it was ( which i now know it probally isnt ) original would of cut it to keep it as i am quite fond of it .
i was actually stopped by a photographer in twickenham who asked to take snaps for artofthestate.
no need to get wound up , not greedy cash hunting MUG , am quite a fan of his work , have his books & visited the galllery on westbourne grove . hope this makes u feel better thanks for your opinion but just try not to get so personal mabye speak again

p.s photo of van is on flickr posted by abc

[mido]

sam (howaboutnow) was prob wound up as the interest in banksy (often monetary) was exploded in the last few weeks and we have had quite a few newbies come on here, ask a question, and then not like the answers. I can personally vouch that of all the people I have met via this forum, my tours etc, Sam is the LEAST materialist and least interested in making money from it.

Nu is nu! a fustrated Brit abroad, paying £13 for a tin of beer and trying to organise the un-organisable (graff people, artists and DJs)! LOL ;D

qprfc1967 said:

thanks 4 the positive advice as for " how about no " get a grip was only asking ! and how can you steal graffiti , its plonkers like numusic who think they are clever "stealing" someone elses clever , ingenius ideas and spraying other peoples property ,
if he could please post his details to me i would love to share some of my designs on his motor, thanks again to the decent majority who can offer chat with intelligence

[numusic]

mido said:

sam (howaboutnow) was prob wound up as the interest in banksy (often monetary) was exploded in the last few weeks and we have had quite a few newbies come on here, ask a question, and then not like the answers. I can personally vouch that of all the people I have met via this forum, my tours etc, Sam is the LEAST materialist and least interested in making money from it.

Nu is nu! a fustrated Brit abroad, paying £13 for a tin of beer and trying to organise the un-organisable (graff people, artists and DJs)! LOL ;D

ha ha, well put. Actually working on a project with some on the worlds oldest 'graffiti' this year with the Norwegian Archaeological Society, Bronze age rock carvings and electronica ! National heritage here we come.. or International in our case you're right about the beer though !

qprfc1967 said:

thanks 4 the positive advice as for " how about no " get a grip was only asking ! and how can you steal graffiti , its plonkers like numusic who think they are clever "stealing" someone elses clever , ingenius ideas and spraying other peoples property ,
if he could please post his details to me i would love to share some of my designs on his motor, thanks again to the decent majority who can offer chat with intelligence

[HowAboutNo]

qprfc1967 said:

calm down , iam just interested in its authenticity , would not be willing to sell it , if it was ( which i now know it probally isnt ) original would of cut it to keep it as i am quite fond of it .
i was actually stopped by a photographer in twickenham who asked to take snaps for artofthestate.
no need to get wound up , not greedy cash hunting MUG , am quite a fan of his work , have his books & visited the galllery on westbourne grove . hope this makes u feel better thanks for your opinion but just try not to get so personal mabye speak again

p.s photo of van is on flickr posted by abc

Sorry qprfc1967 I made a c**k of myself. I completely misconstrued your first post as it came so close to brick blokes Ebay advert that I immediately thought over here was becoming an extension of Ebay. Thanks for clearing up about the intention to keep it and that you are actually a fan!

In all fairness, you were the one who called yourself a MUG (i.e...in caps) I just did it lower case. That was a bit harsh of me and I apologise. (then again, you do support QPR)

And I think this place needs a humour injection - - - found posts about the swear word debates again (i.e f**k, s**t, c**t and piss coming out with these f**king stars) the funniest ones where Steph said that b**ch was replaced by "pregnant dog" - and gm's classic of predictive text being a dublin shiv idea......can't we have those back instead??

[HowAboutNo]

howaboutno said:

And I think this place needs a humour injection - - - found posts about the swear word debates again (i.e f**k, s**t, c**t and piss coming out with these f**king stars) the funniest ones where Steph said that b**ch was replaced by "pregnant dog" - and gm's classic of predictive text being a dublin shiv idea......can't we have those back instead??

ooops.

How did piss, tits and bollocks manage to slip through the net??

[mido]

asshole slipped through earlier as well....

wonder if the proper spelling will slip through - arsehole

howaboutno said:

How did piss, tits and bollocks manage to slip through the net??

[KaL976]

howaboutno said:

howaboutno said:

And I think this place needs a humour injection - - - found posts about the swear word debates again (i.e f**k, s**t, c**t and piss coming out with these f**king stars) the funniest ones where Steph said that b**ch was replaced by "pregnant dog" - and gm's classic of predictive text being a dublin shiv idea......can't we have those back instead??

ooops.

How did piss, tits and bollocks manage to slip through the net??

Quoted for hilarity

Re: The Van... seeing as how you want to keep it, why not just 'surprise' your other half by putting it up on blocks in the front garden
Martin can add your house to the tour.. ok, I'll stop now, hehe

[gm]

I post on a forum where it'll let you say all the real swearwords, but censors HELL and DAMN.

And I post on another where it censors APPLET. A couple of times Robert M******horpe's name's been mentioned...

Bronze age rock carvings and electronica!

*jealous*

[qprfc1967]

great every ones happy again ;D and i tried putting it on blocks outside the house but live on the 3rd floor & just upset the neighbours .
i suppose being a qpr fan mugs ( 4 coffee) r more common place than cups down at loftus rd
as for insults just changing first letters always works you copey dunts

[LoveRat]

qprfc1967 said:

great every ones happy again ;D and i tried putting it on blocks outside the house but live on the 3rd floor & just upset the neighbours .
i suppose being a qpr fan mugs ( 4 coffee) r more common place than cups down at loftus rd
as for insults just changing first letters always works you copey dunts

Reminds me of the bloke who goes into a builders merchants and asks for 10,000 bricks to build a barbeque. The assistant says " you don't need 10,000 bricks to build a barbeque"
He replies " I live on the 3rd floor"

[mido]

LOL ;D ;D ;D

loverat said:

Reminds me of the bloke who goes into a builders merchants and asks for 10,000 bricks to build a barbeque. The assistant says " you don't need 10,000 bricks to build a barbeque"
He replies " I live on the 3rd floor"

[qprfc1967]

to see photo of van go on flickr site and enter" banksy rat on van"