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I give up.........., by bobbyt23 on Jul 27, 2007 10:37:22 GMT 1, I heard that TLSG had received over 1000 requests to reserve a copy of SBFO? That is some going for a relitively new artist, I wonder how many of them wanted to frame the print and hang it in their home?
Judging by e-bay 8 definately didn't!! 
I heard that TLSG had received over 1000 requests to reserve a copy of SBFO? That is some going for a relitively new artist, I wonder how many of them wanted to frame the print and hang it in their home? Judging by e-bay 8 definately didn't!! |
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I give up.........., by jonpud on Jul 27, 2007 10:43:32 GMT 1, I hate to admit this but you do have a point here, I love Banksy's work BUT there are prints that I love more than others, I tried (Unsuccessfully) to get a copy of Grannies when released. Grannies is my least favourite print from the LA run, BUT it would have given me the chance to swop it with someone who wanted it and had a Banksy that I wanted in exchange. Not selling for profit, not really 'flipping' in the true sense of the word BUT still means I am stopping someone who really loves the image from getting it! Yes I feel bad about it and yes many would probably look down on me for doing it but this is what the market has driven us to, there will be thousands after the next Banksy release who couldn't give 2 f**ks about the art, at least I do, and in the long run 2 Banksy fans will both end up happy with a swap deal for the print they REALLY wanted! The market has driven many people to this and in this case I dont think this kind of trade is a bad thing. A straight swap where two people get the print they want is the same as them getting it in the first place. For people who joined the hunt late like me it would be the only way I could get some of the older prints I really like. Especially at the prices most are now at.  Thank you for reading my post properly and not -ing me for it, I don't consider myself a flipper at all, but like thousands of others I am just another part of the problem. I REALLY hope that Banksy has some say in the future and that he helps all those who have truely supported his art by releasing any new print runs in far larger quantities. Keep making the original canvas work for the rich Robbie Williams types, but allow more people on the street to hang a much loved piece of art in their homes! He could easily sell editions of 2000, so many more happy fans, and next to no adverse affect on the people who have spent fortunes in the secondary market as they will still own the 'early' works in smaller runs thus keeping their value?!
I hate to admit this but you do have a point here, I love Banksy's work BUT there are prints that I love more than others, I tried (Unsuccessfully) to get a copy of Grannies when released. Grannies is my least favourite print from the LA run, BUT it would have given me the chance to swop it with someone who wanted it and had a Banksy that I wanted in exchange. Not selling for profit, not really 'flipping' in the true sense of the word BUT still means I am stopping someone who really loves the image from getting it! Yes I feel bad about it and yes many would probably look down on me for doing it but this is what the market has driven us to, there will be thousands after the next Banksy release who couldn't give 2 f**ks about the art, at least I do, and in the long run 2 Banksy fans will both end up happy with a swap deal for the print they REALLY wanted! The market has driven many people to this and in this case I dont think this kind of trade is a bad thing. A straight swap where two people get the print they want is the same as them getting it in the first place. For people who joined the hunt late like me it would be the only way I could get some of the older prints I really like. Especially at the prices most are now at. Thank you for reading my post properly and not -ing me for it, I don't consider myself a flipper at all, but like thousands of others I am just another part of the problem. I REALLY hope that Banksy has some say in the future and that he helps all those who have truely supported his art by releasing any new print runs in far larger quantities. Keep making the original canvas work for the rich Robbie Williams types, but allow more people on the street to hang a much loved piece of art in their homes! He could easily sell editions of 2000, so many more happy fans, and next to no adverse affect on the people who have spent fortunes in the secondary market as they will still own the 'early' works in smaller runs thus keeping their value?! |
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I give up.........., by Harveyn on Jul 27, 2007 10:58:23 GMT 1, God so many good comments I agree with!!!
Nuart - I agree trust your instincts and find new art.
Ambrosiabaptism - This will create new markets and interest in new artists
Slowmo - I think when it is obvious demand far out strips supply edition numbers should be increased. I split (70/30) to be sold at the opening night and on-line.
Manchestermike / Carlito - I agree with your sentiments but its hard not to share a new find when you are really enthused about the work.
Agentbacardi / Babyford - Its the blatant flipping that is the problem. I have no problems with people who sell on art after a period of time to free up equity to buy other art or because financial circumstance dictate that they do so. But the person who re-listed their SBFO because they had it listed as unsigned (I spotted this also) probably did not even enjoy the piece by taking it out of the tube. Anybody else who already has their print up for sale is also guilty of blatant flipping. I pm'd a forum member last night who wanted to sell a spare and I was offered it for ยฃ1700. A complete disgrace (the member was new and will probably never log in again).
Great thread.
God so many good comments I agree with!!!
Nuart - I agree trust your instincts and find new art.
Ambrosiabaptism - This will create new markets and interest in new artists
Slowmo - I think when it is obvious demand far out strips supply edition numbers should be increased. I split (70/30) to be sold at the opening night and on-line.
Manchestermike / Carlito - I agree with your sentiments but its hard not to share a new find when you are really enthused about the work.
Agentbacardi / Babyford - Its the blatant flipping that is the problem. I have no problems with people who sell on art after a period of time to free up equity to buy other art or because financial circumstance dictate that they do so. But the person who re-listed their SBFO because they had it listed as unsigned (I spotted this also) probably did not even enjoy the piece by taking it out of the tube. Anybody else who already has their print up for sale is also guilty of blatant flipping. I pm'd a forum member last night who wanted to sell a spare and I was offered it for ยฃ1700. A complete disgrace (the member was new and will probably never log in again).
Great thread.
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I give up.........., by bobbyt23 on Jul 27, 2007 11:03:42 GMT 1, God so many good comments I agree with!!! Nuart - I agree trust your instincts and find new art. Ambrosiabaptism - This will create new markets and interest in new artists Slowmo - I think when it is obvious demand far out strips supply edition numbers should be increased. I split (70/30) to be sold at the opening night and on-line. Manchestermike / Carlito - I agree with your sentiments but its hard not to share a new find when you are really enthused about the work. Agentbacardi / Babyford - Its the blatant flipping that is the problem. I have no problems with people who sell on art after a period of time to free up equity to buy other art or because financial circumstance dictate that they do so. But the person who re-listed their SBFO because they had it listed as unsigned (I spotted this also) probably did not even enjoy the piece by taking it out of the tube. Anybody else who already has their print up for sale is also guilty of blatant flipping. I pm'd a forum member last night who wanted to sell a spare and I was offered it for ยฃ1700. A complete disgrace (the member was new and will probably never log in again). Great thread.
ยฃ1700!!  Shit the bed. Was that an original on money or one of the Giclee's?
God so many good comments I agree with!!! Nuart - I agree trust your instincts and find new art. Ambrosiabaptism - This will create new markets and interest in new artists Slowmo - I think when it is obvious demand far out strips supply edition numbers should be increased. I split (70/30) to be sold at the opening night and on-line. Manchestermike / Carlito - I agree with your sentiments but its hard not to share a new find when you are really enthused about the work. Agentbacardi / Babyford - Its the blatant flipping that is the problem. I have no problems with people who sell on art after a period of time to free up equity to buy other art or because financial circumstance dictate that they do so. But the person who re-listed their SBFO because they had it listed as unsigned (I spotted this also) probably did not even enjoy the piece by taking it out of the tube. Anybody else who already has their print up for sale is also guilty of blatant flipping. I pm'd a forum member last night who wanted to sell a spare and I was offered it for ยฃ1700. A complete disgrace (the member was new and will probably never log in again). Great thread. ยฃ1700!! Shit the bed. Was that an original on money or one of the Giclee's? |
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I give up.........., by jonpud on Jul 27, 2007 11:05:44 GMT 1, . I pm'd a forum member last night who wanted to sell a spare and I was offered it for ยฃ1700. A complete disgrace (the member was new and will probably never log in again). Great thread.
NAME AND SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!
. I pm'd a forum member last night who wanted to sell a spare and I was offered it for ยฃ1700. A complete disgrace (the member was new and will probably never log in again). Great thread. NAME AND SHAME!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I give up.........., by bobbyt23 on Jul 27, 2007 11:07:32 GMT 1, . I pm'd a forum member last night who wanted to sell a spare and I was offered it for ยฃ1700. A complete disgrace (the member was new and will probably never log in again). Great thread. NAME AND SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah do it. I'll get my pitchfork.
. I pm'd a forum member last night who wanted to sell a spare and I was offered it for ยฃ1700. A complete disgrace (the member was new and will probably never log in again). Great thread. NAME AND SHAME!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah do it. I'll get my pitchfork. |
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I give up.........., by insite on Jul 27, 2007 11:10:53 GMT 1, There was a post last night from someone with a "spare" you should name and shame in case it's not them and they were just trying to do a favour
There was a post last night from someone with a "spare" you should name and shame in case it's not them and they were just trying to do a favour
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I give up.........., by jonpud on Jul 27, 2007 11:13:46 GMT 1, There was a post last night from someone with a "spare" you should name and shame in case it's not them and they were just trying to do a favour
Good point, not just that, I wouldn't want to ever deal with this person out of principle!
There was a post last night from someone with a "spare" you should name and shame in case it's not them and they were just trying to do a favour Good point, not just that, I wouldn't want to ever deal with this person out of principle! |
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I give up.........., by jonpud on Jul 27, 2007 11:17:35 GMT 1, There was a post last night from someone with a "spare" you should name and shame in case it's not them and they were just trying to do a favour
Hey Insite, do you have the thread link?
There was a post last night from someone with a "spare" you should name and shame in case it's not them and they were just trying to do a favour Hey Insite, do you have the thread link? |
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I give up.........., by insite on Jul 27, 2007 11:36:47 GMT 1, There was a post last night from someone with a "spare" you should name and shame in case it's not them and they were just trying to do a favour Hey Insite, do you have the thread link?
just skimmed through all the threads and I can't see the post anywhere, maybe it's been deleted, it was there though it read like someone offering at cost as a forum favour I remember thinking fair play when you could easily profit from it.
There was a post last night from someone with a "spare" you should name and shame in case it's not them and they were just trying to do a favour Hey Insite, do you have the thread link? just skimmed through all the threads and I can't see the post anywhere, maybe it's been deleted, it was there though it read like someone offering at cost as a forum favour I remember thinking fair play when you could easily profit from it. |
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I give up.........., by Harveyn on Jul 27, 2007 11:51:23 GMT 1, Barksey1
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I give up.........., by headphonesex on Jul 27, 2007 12:12:08 GMT 1, Bit of a pisser... I queued up from 5 till 7 and was two from the front when they ran out. A bit annoying but never mind....
So went to Cargo afterwards & saw Matt Small (and SheOne) working his considerable magic. Here's some pics:
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I give up.........., by manchestermike on Jul 27, 2007 12:13:46 GMT 1, The more I see of Matt Small the more I love his work
The more I see of Matt Small the more I love his work
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I give up.........., by headphonesex on Jul 27, 2007 12:15:08 GMT 1, Oh, the band were on at Plastic People, which I stumbled into after Cargo. They're called The Ghost Frequency & they were pretty ace.
www.myspace.com/theghostfrequency
Oh, the band were on at Plastic People, which I stumbled into after Cargo. They're called The Ghost Frequency & they were pretty ace. www.myspace.com/theghostfrequency |
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I give up.........., by headphonesex on Jul 27, 2007 12:16:03 GMT 1, The more I see of Matt Small the more I love his work
He's a motherflippering genius
The more I see of Matt Small the more I love his work He's a motherflippering genius |
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I give up.........., by headphonesex on Jul 27, 2007 12:17:36 GMT 1, You can see the picture's not quite finished, but a bit more paint slapped on, and the masking round the head removed & hey presto. One bitching portrait.
You can see the picture's not quite finished, but a bit more paint slapped on, and the masking round the head removed & hey presto. One bitching portrait.
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I give up.........., by slowmo on Jul 27, 2007 12:17:38 GMT 1, Nice photo's
Nice photo's
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I give up.........., by carlito on Jul 27, 2007 12:19:18 GMT 1, that Matt Small lying on the floor is f*cking superb..love it
that Matt Small lying on the floor is f*cking superb..love it
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I give up.........., by Catwoman on Jul 27, 2007 12:30:21 GMT 1, lots to think about...  ...and i just got my 2 stars! ;D ;D ;D
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I give up.........., by bristolmassive on Jul 27, 2007 12:35:40 GMT 1, lovin the paint covered mac laptop ;D
lovin the paint covered mac laptop ;D
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I give up.........., by jonpud on Jul 27, 2007 12:42:29 GMT 1, Thanks geez for sharing the pics with us (+1)
Fucking love the Matt Small on the floor, always appreciated his quality of work but never wanted to hang it on my wall....UNTIL NOW!! Bring a print run of that out and I'm first in the queue!!!!
Thanks geez for sharing the pics with us (+1)
Fucking love the Matt Small on the floor, always appreciated his quality of work but never wanted to hang it on my wall....UNTIL NOW!! Bring a print run of that out and I'm first in the queue!!!!
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I give up.........., by dave313perry on Jul 27, 2007 12:45:34 GMT 1, Cheers for those pics, their class!
Iv always been a fan of matt smalls ever since the 19 colour screenprint release! quite an achievement and pleasing that the easy root of giclee isnt always taken!
anyone know if the release this morining has sold out yet???
Cheers for those pics, their class!
Iv always been a fan of matt smalls ever since the 19 colour screenprint release! quite an achievement and pleasing that the easy root of giclee isnt always taken!
anyone know if the release this morining has sold out yet???
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I give up.........., by dotdot on Jul 27, 2007 12:57:32 GMT 1, There is something chemical and explosive going on in that man's head - those photos are brilliant.
well done that person 
There is something chemical and explosive going on in that man's head - those photos are brilliant. well done that person |
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I give up.........., by dave313perry on Jul 27, 2007 13:01:02 GMT 1, Cheers, il give him a ding
Cheers, il give him a ding
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I give up.........., by blueandwhite on Jul 27, 2007 13:10:32 GMT 1, I heard that TLSG had received over 1000 requests to reserve a copy of SBFO?
That is some going for a relitively new artist, I wonder how many of them wanted to frame the print and hang it in their home?
I did - I'm gutted, really wanted one but couldn't get to London... At least I have my arofish ready & waiting in framing department.
I heard that TLSG had received over 1000 requests to reserve a copy of SBFO?
That is some going for a relitively new artist, I wonder how many of them wanted to frame the print and hang it in their home?
I did - I'm gutted, really wanted one but couldn't get to London... At least I have my arofish ready & waiting in framing department.
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I give up.........., by dave313perry on Jul 27, 2007 16:18:33 GMT 1, I really like it, but im a matty small fan! no worries just get a message to me whenevr! no rush!
I really like it, but im a matty small fan! no worries just get a message to me whenevr! no rush!
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I give up.........., by carlito on Jul 27, 2007 16:26:53 GMT 1, that Matt Small lying on the floor is f*cking superb..love it
exploding head man print please ;D
that Matt Small lying on the floor is f*cking superb..love it exploding head man print please ;D |
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Shit the bed. Was that an original on money or one of the Giclee's?
...and i just got my 2 stars! ;D ;D ;D
