[a4mnt]

Ebay item 290118538405

Seller states : This poster is printed in 2003 and is very rare now.This print is 100% authentic. I bought this barcode print from POW in the spring of 2004. Banksy logo and POW blindstamp was pushed in after autumn 2004. My name date has been left for POW. I do the full amount repayment guarantee.
Screenprinted posters are size"490mm x 693mm "
number: 217/600

I have a Barcode and thought they were released in 2004? Plus wouldn't they number and stamp them all at once? The numbering on this ebay item is totally different handwriting to mine.

I'm sure he's correct in what he's saying but just wondering what the score is with not numbering them all at once.

[chunkymcfunky]

Dunno when it was released, but I just checked the tube my Barcode came in. It was delivered on 15.3.2004 and is also in the early 200's. Also unstamped.

Hoe that helps.

[chunkymcfunky]

Erm... just had a look at mine and compared

First, the numbering does look different to mine.
Second, where is the red "Banksy" tag on the auction print?

I'm no expert, but I know mine is genuine (I bought it direct off POW myself), and there are definite differences between mine and the one on auction.

[slowmo]

Different handwriting is not a problem, I share the concern over it not having the banksy stamp on it.

[pw]

slowmo said:

Different handwriting is not a problem, I share the concern over it not having the banksy stamp on it.

not all of these prints had the red stamp, although most did.

[hungrig]

a4mnt said:

Ebay item 290118538405

Seller states : This poster is printed in 2003 and is very rare now.This print is 100% authentic. I bought this barcode print from POW in the spring of 2004. Banksy logo and POW blindstamp was pushed in after autumn 2004. My name date has been left for POW. I do the full amount repayment guarantee.
Screenprinted posters are size"490mm x 693mm "
number: 217/600

I have a Barcode and thought they were released in 2004? Plus wouldn't they number and stamp them all at once? The numbering on this ebay item is totally different handwriting to mine.

I'm sure he's correct in what he's saying but just wondering what the score is with not numbering them all at once.

1. The concern about the handwriting of the edition numbering has come up on this Forum more than once. No doubt it will come up again by new members.

For the avoidance of doubt, POW prints were numbered as and when they were sold, not all at once. The handwriting of the edition number will therefore differ according to who did the numbering. The same person's handwriting may even differ over time or depending on how hung over they were on the day.

2. The same applies for the blindstamp after it was introduced. It was not always in the same place (bottom-left or bottom-right). For some prints, in particular 'I Fought The Law', the blindstamp often goes over the edge of the print, regrettably giving the appearance that the print could have been cropped.

3. Likewise, there was no consistency with the placing (or not) of the black or red rubber stamp used for certain prints ('Rude Copper', 'HMV', 'Golf Sale' and 'Barcode').

4. As for signed prints, Banksy's signature style also varies of course.

5. Separately, the date next to the signature of signed prints (if dated at all) will depend on the date of signing. Nor is it always consistent in style. For example, in the case of 'Grin Reaper' (which took a long time to sell out), these have been dated "05", "06", "2006", and possibly "2005".

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I hope this post will be of assistance, if only to give Forummers some comfort with respect to their own prints. The subject matter merits a thread of its own.

**Quite a few people with experience and knowledge of Banksy works, and the true desire to help out others, could just as easily have provided the above information. Although I have previously argued this point quite firmly, it is a real tragedy for this Forum that those people have been banned. I would repeat my request to Silky that he reconsider the banning with a view to reinstating those individuals.

I mention the above again, not for the purpose of "trouble-making", but in the higher interest of this Forum and its Forummers. Good, complete and accurate information should take priority over any personal ego issues or the fear of having one's ignorance or lack of experience exposed.

It would be highly unfortunate if Banksy fans came on this Forum to chat, but felt they necessarily also had to visit the Wall Candy forum when seeking reliable advice from those whose experience of Banksy exceeds two or three years.

I say this sincerely. One can only hope that this post will not be deleted or edited.

Good luck to all.

hungrig/photo-bank

[stylus]

This same print (#217) appears to be on sale at the Noise King gallery in Japan (www.noiseking.com)

[lesroy]

I dont like it.

I have not seen that style of numbering on any other POW prints, I feel I can tell the handwriting even down to which member of staff at POW has done it. This looks "new" to me.

Best person to ask is "Police Aware"... he is an awesome Banksy Detective!

[beejoir1]

The seller!

[reatecvol4]

I'm Japanese.
The buyer of this shop(Noiseking) was having dealings with POW.

[tomhills1]

hungrig said:

1. The concern about the handwriting of the edition numbering has come up on this Forum more than once. No doubt it will come up again by new members.

For the avoidance of doubt, POW prints were numbered as and when they were sold, not all at once. The handwriting of the edition number will therefore differ according to who did the numbering. The same person's handwriting may even differ over time or depending on how hung over they were on the day.

2. The same applies for the blindstamp after it was introduced. It was not always in the same place (bottom-left or bottom-right). For some prints, in particular 'I Fought The Law', the blindstamp often goes over the edge of the print, regrettably giving the appearance that the print could have been cropped.

3. Likewise, there was no consistency with the placing (or not) of the black or red rubber stamp used for certain prints ('Rude Copper', 'HMV', 'Golf Sale' and 'Barcode').

4. As for signed prints, Banksy's signature style also varies of course.

5. Separately, the date next to the signature of signed prints (if dated at all) will depend on the date of signing. Nor is it always consistent in style. For example, in the case of 'Grin Reaper' (which took a long time to sell out), these have been dated "05", "06", "2006", and possibly "2005".

----------------

I hope this post will be of assistance, if only to give Forummers some comfort with respect to their own prints. The subject matter merits a thread of its own.

**Quite a few people with experience and knowledge of Banksy works, and the true desire to help out others, could just as easily have provided the above information. Although I have previously argued this point quite firmly, it is a real tragedy for this Forum that those people have been banned. I would repeat my request to Silky that he reconsider the banning with a view to reinstating those individuals.

I mention the above again, not for the purpose of "trouble-making", but in the higher interest of this Forum and its Forummers. Good, complete and accurate information should take priority over any personal ego issues or the fear of having one's ignorance or lack of experience exposed.

It would be highly unfortunate if Banksy fans came on this Forum to chat, but felt they necessarily also had to visit the Wall Candy forum when seeking reliable advice from those whose experience of Banksy exceeds two or three years.

I say this sincerely. One can only hope that this post will not be deleted or edited.

Good luck to all.

hungrig/photo-bank

valid points, it would help greatly if there were recognisable faces that anyone of us, old or new, could just look up and ask for advice on particular prints and issues we might have with them.
there is quite a lot of inconsistency with a lot of the earlier releases and my only bit of advice is to acertian all provenance ie a paper trail of where the print went after POW sold it, to wherever it may be offered for sale currently. if you can trace the history of it then you can be much more confident of it's legitamacy, without it you may as well back a lame nag down the bookies.
few can say for certain if this print is or isn't the real deal and we can all make guesses, but there are a few people if you know where to find them (no, not the a-team), who can say with some authority how likely a print is to be genuine.

oranges are not the only fruit

[corisma]

Hey all
I also own a Barcode & was my first & fav print
Not all were sold by Pow though i bought mine from ArtRepublic mid 2004 and my Red Banksy Stamp is in the bottom left corner not the right (did wonder about this for a while) but seems this is quite usual .. would be a bit dubious with no stamp at all though it kind of makes the print .. but does look quite genuine

[beejoir1]

Did the red stamp miss some of them?

[manchestermike]

I'd imagine so Chris, they're all over the place with stamps - Golf Sale for example, some with, some without

[daz205]

if the numbering is done by the place selling the print then unless someone has bought a print from noiseking in japan before then they would not have seen this handwriting before

[RBK]

I've tracked sales of Barcode for the past year and not one was lacking both a POW or Banksy red stamp. Some had the POW stamp, with no Banksy Red Stamp or vice-versa - but none were lacking both. Take from that what you may.

[Run Pig Run]

rubberstampz.co.uk

[corisma]

I doubt Very Much that they're numbered by the place selling the print !! What if they messed them all up !?!

Most Barcodes were before Pow Stamping anyway

His numbering does look slightly similar to mine though mine's very straight and not slanted at an angle like his but hard to tell

[a4mnt]

Most Barcodes were before Pow Stamping anyway

Mine is a very low in the 300's and has POW stamp in the right hand corner and Red Banksy stamp in the left corner. So in theory at least half of Barcodes were blindstamped.

[slowmo]

The £15,000 one on originalprints.com has no red stamp or pow stamp