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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by artforartssake on Nov 18, 2020 16:54:35 GMT 1, I was always under the impression it was 50, but that's also in my interest ;-)
There was also rumour to the effect that procedures at POW during the early days were a little disorganised at times and in reality nobody knows the answer. Only Pest Control knows how many have been registered for sure.
I was always under the impression it was 50, but that's also in my interest ;-)
There was also rumour to the effect that procedures at POW during the early days were a little disorganised at times and in reality nobody knows the answer. Only Pest Control knows how many have been registered for sure.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by robo on Nov 18, 2020 17:04:34 GMT 1, The 27 APs were a new one to me actually.
The 27 APs were a new one to me actually.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Prescription Art on Nov 18, 2020 17:47:30 GMT 1, They were signed as and when sold, so definitely not the 'first' 50... you can find a signed print in the 400s. 50 is just a good guess as to how many were signed... only Pest Control would know for sure.
They were signed as and when sold, so definitely not the 'first' 50... you can find a signed print in the 400s. 50 is just a good guess as to how many were signed... only Pest Control would know for sure.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by therivler1 on Nov 18, 2020 17:51:56 GMT 1, They were signed as and when sold, so definitely not the 'first' 50... you can find a signed print in the 400s. 50 is just a good guess as to how many were signed... only Pest Control would know for sure. I've heard that also. But I'd expect Christies to be a bit more exact than just a good guess. Hence my query.
They were signed as and when sold, so definitely not the 'first' 50... you can find a signed print in the 400s. 50 is just a good guess as to how many were signed... only Pest Control would know for sure. I've heard that also. But I'd expect Christies to be a bit more exact than just a good guess. Hence my query.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by robo on Nov 18, 2020 18:11:32 GMT 1, They were signed as and when sold, so definitely not the 'first' 50... you can find a signed print in the 400s. 50 is just a good guess as to how many were signed... only Pest Control would know for sure. I've heard that also. But I'd expect Christies to be a bit more exact than just a good guess. Hence my query. Christies would be able to access accurate info from source.
They were signed as and when sold, so definitely not the 'first' 50... you can find a signed print in the 400s. 50 is just a good guess as to how many were signed... only Pest Control would know for sure. I've heard that also. But I'd expect Christies to be a bit more exact than just a good guess. Hence my query. Christies would be able to access accurate info from source.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by jimmyjam on Dec 18, 2020 8:09:13 GMT 1, I like how the seller posted how he/she/a gallery bids up auction prices / sets prices only to sell his/hers/ the gallery’s one for more. Classic way how people/galleries try and manipulated auction prices and art values.
“You have lost this lost”...
I like how the seller posted how he/she/a gallery bids up auction prices / sets prices only to sell his/hers/ the gallery’s one for more. Classic way how people/galleries try and manipulated auction prices and art values. “You have lost this lost”...
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by stencilope on Dec 18, 2020 9:34:04 GMT 1, This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by PS on Dec 18, 2020 9:36:24 GMT 1, I very much hope that you have one, you may be pleasantly surprised.
This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
I very much hope that you have one, you may be pleasantly surprised. This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by PS on Dec 18, 2020 9:38:24 GMT 1, This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by stencilope on Dec 18, 2020 9:48:13 GMT 1, Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now.
Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by ajr on Dec 18, 2020 10:02:54 GMT 1, This is what happens when hedge funds etc get involved. Been doing it in small caps and other asset classes for ages, now playing the art market. Look at bitcoin as another example. These guys have billions to splash around
This is what happens when hedge funds etc get involved. Been doing it in small caps and other asset classes for ages, now playing the art market. Look at bitcoin as another example. These guys have billions to splash around
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Pawel on Dec 18, 2020 10:03:46 GMT 1, This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values.
Don't tell them how much the signed went for the other day.
This has got to be a put-on. What is the real value of an unsigned print nowadays? I very much doubt they went from £2k to £200k in the six or so years since I last looked at values. Don't tell them how much the signed went for the other day.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by apprint on Dec 18, 2020 10:32:05 GMT 1, Signed sold for close to 600k More than Girl With Red Balloon
Signed sold for close to 600k More than Girl With Red Balloon
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by longshanks on Dec 18, 2020 11:04:12 GMT 1, I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions...
I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions...
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by JFCC on Dec 18, 2020 11:06:14 GMT 1, An AP sold for £541k, signed seem to be around £335-375K apparently. Unsigned GWB sold at Bonhams at £321k this week.
An AP sold for £541k, signed seem to be around £335-375K apparently. Unsigned GWB sold at Bonhams at £321k this week.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Pawel on Dec 18, 2020 11:22:37 GMT 1, I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions... SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right
I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions... SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by longshanks on Dec 18, 2020 11:47:08 GMT 1, I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions... SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness
I'd say this is going to look like a steal after a couple more auctions... SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Pawel on Dec 18, 2020 12:00:22 GMT 1, SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness I could buy about 8 sets of Richter Cage prints for that money, (and some people still complained these were unsigned). Even better, the entire Sainer show at Brain Damage for half of that.
SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness I could buy about 8 sets of Richter Cage prints for that money, (and some people still complained these were unsigned). Even better, the entire Sainer show at Brain Damage for half of that.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by longshanks on Dec 18, 2020 12:03:15 GMT 1, what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness I could buy about 8 sets of Richter Cage prints for that money, (and some people still complained these were unsigned). Even better, the entire Sainer show at Brain Damage for half of that. or a house
what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness I could buy about 8 sets of Richter Cage prints for that money, (and some people still complained these were unsigned). Even better, the entire Sainer show at Brain Damage for half of that. or a house
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by irl1 on Dec 18, 2020 12:04:12 GMT 1, Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. If you go for another 6 month sleep you'll be able to retire AND buy a Learjet
Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. If you go for another 6 month sleep you'll be able to retire AND buy a Learjet
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by irl1 on Dec 18, 2020 12:08:37 GMT 1, SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness Seems when your talking Banksy condition reports go out the window
SMH, an unsigned print for £215,000 being a steal. Scary part is that you might be right what's even more crazy is that sotheby's one was fooked; dry-mounted, scratches.... madness Seems when your talking Banksy condition reports go out the window
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by My Name is Frank on Dec 18, 2020 12:22:17 GMT 1, Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. I would continue with your advice from 14 years ago, treat it as pop art that will be worthless. Its not going the way of your eighties artists, but you could cash in richly now and either be thankful or regretful in the future.
By holding, if it slides back down you'll still makes $$$ on the original investments, if it goes up then even better.
Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. I would continue with your advice from 14 years ago, treat it as pop art that will be worthless. Its not going the way of your eighties artists, but you could cash in richly now and either be thankful or regretful in the future. By holding, if it slides back down you'll still makes $$$ on the original investments, if it goes up then even better.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by Dexter Bulldog on Dec 18, 2020 12:34:19 GMT 1, Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. Why not sell one or two and keep the rest to enjoy and see how things play out? if you’re in the us and are thinking about it, do something before December 31. If both Georgia senate seats go democrat your potentially looking at an extra 10 to 12 tax bill on collectibles under Bidens proposed tax plan.
Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. Why not sell one or two and keep the rest to enjoy and see how things play out? if you’re in the us and are thinking about it, do something before December 31. If both Georgia senate seats go democrat your potentially looking at an extra 10 to 12 tax bill on collectibles under Bidens proposed tax plan.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by startimeash on Dec 18, 2020 15:46:52 GMT 1, Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. I know there are a lot of people here that have more money than I could ever hope to have, so I'll give the the perspective of someone who is well off but by no means rich.
I'd sell.
I love Banksy, and it would be a dream to have a print up on the wall. But there are more important things in life, financial security being a huge one. I'd look at it as reaching a life changing sum on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. At the moment, if you take the money, you're going to be able to do some amazing things with it. Yeah, you won't have the art, but in my opinion what you gain is worth a lot more. You could hold on and try to get to the million pound question, but you have to be really sure you know the answer, otherwise you could walk away with a lot less than you might have had. If we were talking about £5k or so then no way would I be selling, because to me that's not a life changing amount of money. To some people it is. Conversely, I can guarantee that there are people on the forum for whom £200k isn't life changing, so they wouldn't sell.
If it were me, I'd be looking at what I could do with the money now. £200k would mean no mortgage. Would I regret selling if it later hit £2m? Of course. But I'd be regretting it in my unmortgaged house. Your appetite for risk is the main thing here. I'd have sold out a long way before £200k if I'm honest.
Like all advice here, take this with a pinch of salt, as it's my opinion only, and I know shit. Go speak to a financial adviser.
Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. I know there are a lot of people here that have more money than I could ever hope to have, so I'll give the the perspective of someone who is well off but by no means rich. I'd sell. I love Banksy, and it would be a dream to have a print up on the wall. But there are more important things in life, financial security being a huge one. I'd look at it as reaching a life changing sum on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. At the moment, if you take the money, you're going to be able to do some amazing things with it. Yeah, you won't have the art, but in my opinion what you gain is worth a lot more. You could hold on and try to get to the million pound question, but you have to be really sure you know the answer, otherwise you could walk away with a lot less than you might have had. If we were talking about £5k or so then no way would I be selling, because to me that's not a life changing amount of money. To some people it is. Conversely, I can guarantee that there are people on the forum for whom £200k isn't life changing, so they wouldn't sell. If it were me, I'd be looking at what I could do with the money now. £200k would mean no mortgage. Would I regret selling if it later hit £2m? Of course. But I'd be regretting it in my unmortgaged house. Your appetite for risk is the main thing here. I'd have sold out a long way before £200k if I'm honest. Like all advice here, take this with a pinch of salt, as it's my opinion only, and I know shit. Go speak to a financial adviser.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by swarm on Dec 18, 2020 16:10:27 GMT 1,
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by 88carrera on Dec 20, 2020 4:58:35 GMT 1, Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. Sell two thirds now of what you have, and never, ever look back. I like this suggestion as a starting point. With any other investment I’d suggest asking, “would I buy these now at current prices?” If the answer is “no”—either because you wouldn’t care to put that much money into art, or because current prices seem crazy—then you should not be holding at the same prices. Hope is not an investment strategy.
If you could secure your financial future with a few sales, you’d be crazy not to. Yes, prices could go up further, but you’ll be comfortably fed and sheltered while you regret your timing. If FOMO is too strong, hold onto a few pieces after selling enough to secure yourself.
Finally, if the cost of properly insuring art ever gets uncomfortable, that would be a clear signal to sell.
Full disclosure: I am cautious by nature and therefore tend to sell too soon.
Thank you. That is kind of insane, and a bit of a shock. That was 10x estimate. Was that a couple people who REALLY wanted a Banksy that day, a short term bubble, or is this the trendline? I doubt this is sustainable. I would play stupid, but anyone looking back at my posts will probably make a good list of what I mentioned buying 15 years ago and do the math. So my honest question now is this; seeing as how it looks like through sheer dumb luck I might have a retirement fund again, is this a bubble, do I bail now or wait? Very glad I didn't hang anything with thumbtacks now. Sell two thirds now of what you have, and never, ever look back. I like this suggestion as a starting point. With any other investment I’d suggest asking, “would I buy these now at current prices?” If the answer is “no”—either because you wouldn’t care to put that much money into art, or because current prices seem crazy—then you should not be holding at the same prices. Hope is not an investment strategy. If you could secure your financial future with a few sales, you’d be crazy not to. Yes, prices could go up further, but you’ll be comfortably fed and sheltered while you regret your timing. If FOMO is too strong, hold onto a few pieces after selling enough to secure yourself. Finally, if the cost of properly insuring art ever gets uncomfortable, that would be a clear signal to sell. Full disclosure: I am cautious by nature and therefore tend to sell too soon.
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by begs on Dec 20, 2020 9:54:58 GMT 1, An AP sold for £541k, signed seem to be around £335-375K apparently. Unsigned Girl With Balloon sold at Bonhams at £321k this week. Theses prices are just unbelievable
An AP sold for £541k, signed seem to be around £335-375K apparently. Unsigned Girl With Balloon sold at Bonhams at £321k this week. Theses prices are just unbelievable
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by theclash on Dec 20, 2020 11:13:36 GMT 1, Sell two thirds now of what you have, and never, ever look back. I like this suggestion as a starting point. With any other investment I’d suggest asking, “would I buy these now at current prices?” If the answer is “no”—either because you wouldn’t care to put that much money into art, or because current prices seem crazy—then you should not be holding at the same prices. Hope is not an investment strategy. If you could secure your financial future with a few sales, you’d be crazy not to. Yes, prices could go up further, but you’ll be comfortably fed and sheltered while you regret your timing. If FOMO is too strong, hold onto a few pieces after selling enough to secure yourself. Finally, if the cost of properly insuring art ever gets uncomfortable, that would be a clear signal to sell. Full disclosure: I am cautious by nature and therefore tend to sell too soon.
Banksy any day of the week as an investment over Tesla at $650bn market cap when has 10% the revenue of Volkswagen. The world is nuts, too much liquidity / cash. Can argue all day and night whether it is fair banksy gets such a premium over other street artists but people like his work and think it will stay in demand, I agree
Sell two thirds now of what you have, and never, ever look back. I like this suggestion as a starting point. With any other investment I’d suggest asking, “would I buy these now at current prices?” If the answer is “no”—either because you wouldn’t care to put that much money into art, or because current prices seem crazy—then you should not be holding at the same prices. Hope is not an investment strategy. If you could secure your financial future with a few sales, you’d be crazy not to. Yes, prices could go up further, but you’ll be comfortably fed and sheltered while you regret your timing. If FOMO is too strong, hold onto a few pieces after selling enough to secure yourself. Finally, if the cost of properly insuring art ever gets uncomfortable, that would be a clear signal to sell. Full disclosure: I am cautious by nature and therefore tend to sell too soon. Banksy any day of the week as an investment over Tesla at $650bn market cap when has 10% the revenue of Volkswagen. The world is nuts, too much liquidity / cash. Can argue all day and night whether it is fair banksy gets such a premium over other street artists but people like his work and think it will stay in demand, I agree
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Banksy • Flower Thrower • Love is in the Air, by mem70 on Jan 14, 2021 13:05:23 GMT 1, Looking for US LIITA. Money ready. PM please.
Looking for US LIITA. Money ready. PM please.
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