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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by junkieart on Mar 3, 2009 22:38:43 GMT 1, Hey HC, how the devil are you, nice to see you sitting on the fence :-) Hope life's good. I agree to an extend but if people like it then fair enough let them buy it, not for me also. Peace JA
Hey HC, how the devil are you, nice to see you sitting on the fence :-) Hope life's good. I agree to an extend but if people like it then fair enough let them buy it, not for me also. Peace JA
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Heavyconsumer on Mar 3, 2009 22:57:50 GMT 1, Hi JA, doing great thanks and I hope you're well too. Yes of course, to each his own - I def' overstepped my own boundries when describing the piece in such a derogatory way (some things are better kept to ourselves)
I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just think that some of the arguments that pop up when it suits people are a bit out of context and they seem a little spurious, especially talking about "yuppie art dealer wannabes" in the same breath as paying Β£75 for a tag from a gallery. Dinner time here. Enjoy.
Hi JA, doing great thanks and I hope you're well too. Yes of course, to each his own - I def' overstepped my own boundries when describing the piece in such a derogatory way (some things are better kept to ourselves)
I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just think that some of the arguments that pop up when it suits people are a bit out of context and they seem a little spurious, especially talking about "yuppie art dealer wannabes" in the same breath as paying Β£75 for a tag from a gallery. Dinner time here. Enjoy.
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by wiz on Mar 3, 2009 23:01:18 GMT 1, Dont know who Tox is but this ones not for me, great if you like it though i suppose.
Dont know who Tox is but this ones not for me, great if you like it though i suppose.
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by junkieart on Mar 3, 2009 23:04:54 GMT 1, Nope, as usual very nicely put, good to see you back. Now Shameless is on :-) Take it easy mate, Sorry TOX rocks!!!
Nope, as usual very nicely put, good to see you back. Now Shameless is on :-) Take it easy mate, Sorry TOX rocks!!!
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by junkieart on Mar 3, 2009 23:06:50 GMT 1, Wiz, watch channel 4 now, you'll love it!!
Wiz, watch channel 4 now, you'll love it!!
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by wiz on Mar 3, 2009 23:09:27 GMT 1, Ok will do JA!.
Ok will do JA!.
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by cookiemonster on Mar 3, 2009 23:13:47 GMT 1, the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te - i am going to buy one so i can piss, crap, spit, vomit, pick my nose, wank, fart, pour coffee all over it, let me cat sleep on it, drag it for a mile from the back of my car, let my sister use it as a tampon - then i am going to pour paraffin all over it, then set the f**ker alight - hell i might even video the whole thing (with the exception of my sister using it as a tampon, have to have a sense of decency at some point).
the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te - i am going to buy one so i can piss, crap, spit, vomit, pick my nose, wank, fart, pour coffee all over it, let me cat sleep on it, drag it for a mile from the back of my car, let my sister use it as a tampon - then i am going to pour paraffin all over it, then set the f**ker alight - hell i might even video the whole thing (with the exception of my sister using it as a tampon, have to have a sense of decency at some point).
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by mcnuts on Mar 3, 2009 23:15:14 GMT 1, but how do you really feel?
but how do you really feel?
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by spenie1975 on Mar 3, 2009 23:16:09 GMT 1, the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te - i am going to buy one so i can piss, crap, spit, vomit, pick my nose, wank, fart, poor coffee over it, let me cat sleep on it, drag it for a mile from the back of my car, let my sister use it as a tampon - then i am going to pour paraffin all over it, then set the f**ker alight - hell i might even video the whole thing (with the exception of my sister using it as a tampon, have to have a sense of decency at some point). Big fan then CM,frame it up and put it on you wall far less hassle. Especially for your sister. ;D
the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te - i am going to buy one so i can piss, crap, spit, vomit, pick my nose, wank, fart, poor coffee over it, let me cat sleep on it, drag it for a mile from the back of my car, let my sister use it as a tampon - then i am going to pour paraffin all over it, then set the f**ker alight - hell i might even video the whole thing (with the exception of my sister using it as a tampon, have to have a sense of decency at some point). Big fan then CM,frame it up and put it on you wall far less hassle. Especially for your sister. ;D
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by cookiemonster on Mar 3, 2009 23:21:45 GMT 1, the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te - i am going to buy one so i can piss, crap, spit, vomit, pick my nose, wank, fart, poor coffee over it, let me cat sleep on it, drag it for a mile from the back of my car, let my sister use it as a tampon - then i am going to pour paraffin all over it, then set the f**ker alight - hell i might even video the whole thing (with the exception of my sister using it as a tampon, have to have a sense of decency at some point). Go to bed
not till i get my reach around
the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te - i am going to buy one so i can piss, crap, spit, vomit, pick my nose, wank, fart, poor coffee over it, let me cat sleep on it, drag it for a mile from the back of my car, let my sister use it as a tampon - then i am going to pour paraffin all over it, then set the f**ker alight - hell i might even video the whole thing (with the exception of my sister using it as a tampon, have to have a sense of decency at some point). Go to bed not till i get my reach around
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by dynamixx on Mar 3, 2009 23:22:39 GMT 1, This movement was built on all that nasty tagging, all the NY pioneers of the 1970/80s did was tag their names at first, but they planted a seed without which we wouldn't have the likes of Banksy today. I don't deny the historical importance of tagging, but you can't really say that all street art came from New York, there was even graffiti found on the walls of Pompeii. I appreciate that books such as Chalfant's subway art helped to proliferate the work, opening it up to a wider audience, but I don't think that if the NY scene had never happened, there wouldn't be a street art scene to speak of today. In regards to the tagging, it's suggested that it was borne from the residents of the underprivelidged areas of NY wanting to mark something as their own, posessing a part of their public realm, and they realised that scrawling your name onto a train would allow it to be seen all around the city, even in the more affluent areas, thus emphasising their presence. The same thinking, where tagging is seen as a symptom of a run-down and ill-administered area, still rings true today, where, as a result, crime is more likely to occur, or at least be percieved to occur. Thus, although tagging may not cause crime, it creates a fear of crime. Due to this persistent reaction, it will always be villified by government, resulting, via their misunderstanding and failed appreciation of the spectrum and indeed positive effect of street art, in all work in all its forms to be targetted. If it wasn't for tagging like this, street art would have a much better name, wouldn't be buffed quite so often, and not so many street artists would be seen as criminals.
And even thousands of years prior to Pompeii cavemen wrote stuff on walls, that's what's so special about graffiti compared to any other artistic movement. New York was a definite turning point, but maybe we should save the significance of that for a different day.
It's all just different perceptions isn't it? Where you see urban decay and crime, I see a voice given to an otherwise unspoken underclass.
For a large chunk of dispossed nobodies with no voice, a marker or can of molotow is their only way of being heard. There are far worse outlets of poverty/urban decay/frustration or whatever you want to call it. If 1% of those unsightly taggers go on to create something that this forum or bourgeois auction houses consider to be art, would their collective endevours be considered worthwhile?
Graf has and always will be buffed by the authorities, give or take one or two big name exceptions in recent years. Its lack of permanence is what makes it so exciting and quick to evolve. I for one am happy the establishment isn't celebrating it.
If big corporations can bombard me with images everywhere, even when I look up from taking a piss, then why shouldn't those who have no canvas, other than the streets, be stopped from doing so?
This movement was built on all that nasty tagging, all the NY pioneers of the 1970/80s did was tag their names at first, but they planted a seed without which we wouldn't have the likes of Banksy today. I don't deny the historical importance of tagging, but you can't really say that all street art came from New York, there was even graffiti found on the walls of Pompeii. I appreciate that books such as Chalfant's subway art helped to proliferate the work, opening it up to a wider audience, but I don't think that if the NY scene had never happened, there wouldn't be a street art scene to speak of today. In regards to the tagging, it's suggested that it was borne from the residents of the underprivelidged areas of NY wanting to mark something as their own, posessing a part of their public realm, and they realised that scrawling your name onto a train would allow it to be seen all around the city, even in the more affluent areas, thus emphasising their presence. The same thinking, where tagging is seen as a symptom of a run-down and ill-administered area, still rings true today, where, as a result, crime is more likely to occur, or at least be percieved to occur. Thus, although tagging may not cause crime, it creates a fear of crime. Due to this persistent reaction, it will always be villified by government, resulting, via their misunderstanding and failed appreciation of the spectrum and indeed positive effect of street art, in all work in all its forms to be targetted. If it wasn't for tagging like this, street art would have a much better name, wouldn't be buffed quite so often, and not so many street artists would be seen as criminals. And even thousands of years prior to Pompeii cavemen wrote stuff on walls, that's what's so special about graffiti compared to any other artistic movement. New York was a definite turning point, but maybe we should save the significance of that for a different day. It's all just different perceptions isn't it? Where you see urban decay and crime, I see a voice given to an otherwise unspoken underclass. For a large chunk of dispossed nobodies with no voice, a marker or can of molotow is their only way of being heard. There are far worse outlets of poverty/urban decay/frustration or whatever you want to call it. If 1% of those unsightly taggers go on to create something that this forum or bourgeois auction houses consider to be art, would their collective endevours be considered worthwhile? Graf has and always will be buffed by the authorities, give or take one or two big name exceptions in recent years. Its lack of permanence is what makes it so exciting and quick to evolve. I for one am happy the establishment isn't celebrating it. If big corporations can bombard me with images everywhere, even when I look up from taking a piss, then why shouldn't those who have no canvas, other than the streets, be stopped from doing so?
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by bradpitt on Mar 3, 2009 23:40:53 GMT 1, I've never heard someone mention their sister and tampons in the same breath, thats some sick shit.
I've never heard someone mention their sister and tampons in the same breath, thats some sick shit.
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by idude on Mar 4, 2009 0:03:28 GMT 1, I've never heard someone mention their sister and tampons in the same breath, thats some sick s**t.
I heard this once in Soho but I already spent all my dosh at Laz, so I had to pass...
I've never heard someone mention their sister and tampons in the same breath, thats some sick s**t. I heard this once in Soho but I already spent all my dosh at Laz, so I had to pass...
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by bmjt on Mar 4, 2009 0:26:24 GMT 1, Hey Dynamixx, cheers for the response, always more than happy to have a friendly debate. In response to your points :
"And even thousands of years prior to Pompeii cavemen wrote stuff on walls, that's what's so special about graffiti compared to any other artistic movement."
Of course graffiti is special, it's uncontrollable, free, straight from the mind of anyone and everyone who wants to do it, but in this instance i'm solely talking about tagging.
"New York was a definite turning point, but maybe we should save the significance of that for a different day."
It most certainly was, as I somewhat alluded to
"It's all just different perceptions isn't it? Where you see urban decay and crime, I see a voice given to an otherwise unspoken underclass. "
I'm not talking about my perception, i'm talking about the perception of the general public. All i'm saying is that it doesn't matter what we think, it's Granny Miggins who complains to the council which fuels their anti-graffiti campaigns
"For a large chunk of dispossed nobodies with no voice, a marker or can of molotow is their only way of being heard. "
That's exactly what said in my last post.
There are far worse outlets of poverty/urban decay/frustration or whatever you want to call it. If 1% of those unsightly taggers go on to create something that this forum or bourgeois auction houses consider to be art, would their collective endevours be considered worthwhile?
Of course it would, but that's not going to stop the general public being scared by their tagging. To be fair though, this debate did originate from Tox's piece, and he hasn't really progressed thus far. He of course may have a load of work i've never seen, but this piece in question is just a tag.
"Graf has and always will be buffed by the authorities, give or take one or two big name exceptions in recent years. Its lack of permanence is what makes it so exciting and quick to evolve. I for one am happy the establishment isn't celebrating it."
Yeah, I was going to say something about that, the ephemerality of it is key, but maybe it would be better if work was replaced by other artists, as opposed to the buff? Ot maybe that loses something, not sure. Thoughts?
"If big corporations can bombard me with images everywhere, even when I look up from taking a piss, then why shouldn't those who have no canvas, other than the streets, be stopped from doing so?"
I've got absolutely no problem with that, we've all read Wall and Piece, and i'm a tad surprised you think I would think otherwise, I love street art, but all I would say is that why not brighten up an area or use a witty message to put something across, not just scrawl your name.
Edit : I guess not.
Hey Dynamixx, cheers for the response, always more than happy to have a friendly debate. In response to your points :
"And even thousands of years prior to Pompeii cavemen wrote stuff on walls, that's what's so special about graffiti compared to any other artistic movement."
Of course graffiti is special, it's uncontrollable, free, straight from the mind of anyone and everyone who wants to do it, but in this instance i'm solely talking about tagging.
"New York was a definite turning point, but maybe we should save the significance of that for a different day."
It most certainly was, as I somewhat alluded to
"It's all just different perceptions isn't it? Where you see urban decay and crime, I see a voice given to an otherwise unspoken underclass. "
I'm not talking about my perception, i'm talking about the perception of the general public. All i'm saying is that it doesn't matter what we think, it's Granny Miggins who complains to the council which fuels their anti-graffiti campaigns
"For a large chunk of dispossed nobodies with no voice, a marker or can of molotow is their only way of being heard. "
That's exactly what said in my last post.
There are far worse outlets of poverty/urban decay/frustration or whatever you want to call it. If 1% of those unsightly taggers go on to create something that this forum or bourgeois auction houses consider to be art, would their collective endevours be considered worthwhile?
Of course it would, but that's not going to stop the general public being scared by their tagging. To be fair though, this debate did originate from Tox's piece, and he hasn't really progressed thus far. He of course may have a load of work i've never seen, but this piece in question is just a tag.
"Graf has and always will be buffed by the authorities, give or take one or two big name exceptions in recent years. Its lack of permanence is what makes it so exciting and quick to evolve. I for one am happy the establishment isn't celebrating it."
Yeah, I was going to say something about that, the ephemerality of it is key, but maybe it would be better if work was replaced by other artists, as opposed to the buff? Ot maybe that loses something, not sure. Thoughts?
"If big corporations can bombard me with images everywhere, even when I look up from taking a piss, then why shouldn't those who have no canvas, other than the streets, be stopped from doing so?"
I've got absolutely no problem with that, we've all read Wall and Piece, and i'm a tad surprised you think I would think otherwise, I love street art, but all I would say is that why not brighten up an area or use a witty message to put something across, not just scrawl your name.
Edit : I guess not.
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Daniel Silk on Mar 4, 2009 0:29:16 GMT 1, Can I ask everyone to keep this discussion as civilized as possible please
Thank you!
Can I ask everyone to keep this discussion as civilized as possible please Thank you!
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by goffy on Mar 4, 2009 0:53:36 GMT 1, Can I ask everyone to end this discussion, everything that needs to be said has been said. Now it is just boring.
Can I ask everyone to end this discussion, everything that needs to be said has been said. Now it is just boring.
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by bullet on Mar 4, 2009 1:02:21 GMT 1, yep, back to selling and talking parla then
yep, back to selling and talking parla then
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by bullet on Mar 4, 2009 1:02:46 GMT 1, ;D
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by BONZO on Mar 4, 2009 1:03:13 GMT 1, LMFAO ;D cheers Frankie
LMFAO ;D cheers Frankie
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by wiz on Mar 4, 2009 1:08:28 GMT 1, Haha excellent homepage Frankie.
Haha excellent homepage Frankie.
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by bullet on Mar 4, 2009 1:09:39 GMT 1, TOX09 POW RELEASE THIS WEEK...
Bet you lot would buy it then...
TOX09 POW RELEASE THIS WEEK...
Bet you lot would buy it then...
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Steal From Work on Mar 4, 2009 9:33:56 GMT 1, "tox is not a street artist" well, thank fuck for that.....jesus, how you lot bitch and moan, the core principles of any sound argument left aside, no rhyme or reason. opinions are like arseholes as we all know, everyone has one. but to spout like a dumb apostle, while singing the praises of replete is foolhardy at best. graffiti is raw, uncontrollable, illegal, hard fucking work for it's disciples, it's a fucking lifestyle not a weekend warrior bullshit hobby, where you knock up a stencil of the queen or some other dullard icon in your garage while the kids are asleep and the missus is out shopping...it's about scoping out train yards for weeks, having to change your sim card, ,being grassedon, having a backbone and doing it for it's own sake.....and a little fame...... "a mark which requires no talent, skill or thought".......i don't remember which joker posted this beauty in direct relation to tagging, but if you think that the art bandied around on this forum has any balls, guts, dedication to a defining principle or sheer fucking seminal iconic status....think again. it's not street art. it's street mush, clogging up the arteries of right thinking....it's macdonalds art......safe daily mail bullshit i defend this print, it's maker and it's publisher. there is no future in england's dreaming and while we're about it.......ever get the feeling you've been cheated? graffiti, that's what this has been born out of. not terry wogan, not hallmark cards, not gucci, not THE DAILY FUCKING MAIL>>>>>>>>> grow a pair i swear, and think twice before defending shithgeels with no integrity, art is about freedom not copying a copyist rahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, today i am angry
"tox is not a street artist" well, thank fuck for that.....jesus, how you lot bitch and moan, the core principles of any sound argument left aside, no rhyme or reason. opinions are like arseholes as we all know, everyone has one. but to spout like a dumb apostle, while singing the praises of replete is foolhardy at best. graffiti is raw, uncontrollable, illegal, hard fucking work for it's disciples, it's a fucking lifestyle not a weekend warrior bullshit hobby, where you knock up a stencil of the queen or some other dullard icon in your garage while the kids are asleep and the missus is out shopping...it's about scoping out train yards for weeks, having to change your sim card, ,being grassedon, having a backbone and doing it for it's own sake.....and a little fame...... "a mark which requires no talent, skill or thought".......i don't remember which joker posted this beauty in direct relation to tagging, but if you think that the art bandied around on this forum has any balls, guts, dedication to a defining principle or sheer fucking seminal iconic status....think again. it's not street art. it's street mush, clogging up the arteries of right thinking....it's macdonalds art......safe daily mail bullshit i defend this print, it's maker and it's publisher. there is no future in england's dreaming and while we're about it.......ever get the feeling you've been cheated? graffiti, that's what this has been born out of. not terry wogan, not hallmark cards, not gucci, not THE DAILY FUCKING MAIL>>>>>>>>> grow a pair i swear, and think twice before defending shithgeels with no integrity, art is about freedom not copying a copyist rahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, today i am angry
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Deleted on Mar 4, 2009 10:19:43 GMT 1, on a side note - it's your own perogative whether you like/dislike/understand/misunderstand this work - but when you send hate mail to SOS regarding it you've crossed the line - if there's any street art on your wall - take it down and fuck off
on a side note - it's your own perogative whether you like/dislike/understand/misunderstand this work - but when you send hate mail to SOS regarding it you've crossed the line - if there's any street art on your wall - take it down and fuck off
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by wiz on Mar 4, 2009 10:41:49 GMT 1, Wiz, watch channel 4 now, you'll love it!!
Saw it jA , just off to drop a pill in me beer now then im booked in at Lilians this afternoon for a Yugoslavian Quarter Pounder
Wiz, watch channel 4 now, you'll love it!! Saw it jA , just off to drop a pill in me beer now then im booked in at Lilians this afternoon for a Yugoslavian Quarter Pounder
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by manchestermike on Mar 4, 2009 11:53:48 GMT 1, the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te
The mark of success of a print is that it sells out instantly? Wholly disagree, all that an instant sell out means is that it is flippable. For me this TOX print is the single biggest success of the last 12 months and what makes it 100 times better is you can still buy it
the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te The mark of success of a print is that it sells out instantly? Wholly disagree, all that an instant sell out means is that it is flippable. For me this TOX print is the single biggest success of the last 12 months and what makes it 100 times better is you can still buy it
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by mammal1 on Mar 4, 2009 12:00:35 GMT 1, TOX is a living legend in my eyes. Love the idea of this print.
TOX is a living legend in my eyes. Love the idea of this print.
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by bradpitt on Mar 4, 2009 12:05:30 GMT 1, on a side note - it's your own perogative whether you like/dislike/understand/misunderstand this work - but when you send hate mail to SOS regarding it you've crossed the line - if there's any street art on your wall - take it down and f**k off
I agree with you on that one bad robot - sending hate mail to SOS is ridiculous, they are one of the most ethical galleries around, loads of charity work, small editions, low prices, very friendly helpful people.
I still don't like the print though : )
on a side note - it's your own perogative whether you like/dislike/understand/misunderstand this work - but when you send hate mail to SOS regarding it you've crossed the line - if there's any street art on your wall - take it down and f**k off I agree with you on that one bad robot - sending hate mail to SOS is ridiculous, they are one of the most ethical galleries around, loads of charity work, small editions, low prices, very friendly helpful people. I still don't like the print though : )
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by cashman on Mar 4, 2009 12:10:36 GMT 1, If you like seeing tagging in it's rawest form, good for you, but how can you relate that to a Β£75 print? It just seems enormously contradictary imo. Just how many times are you going to quote my post ? How can you tell me wether my opinions are right or wrong ?? If nothing else TOX has a place in Londons graff history and will be rememberd long after 95% of the artists mentioned on here. If you dont mind me asking, what even got you into graff ?? ps...no more shouting, coz its me that will get the ban
If you like seeing tagging in it's rawest form, good for you, but how can you relate that to a Β£75 print? It just seems enormously contradictary imo. Just how many times are you going to quote my post ? How can you tell me wether my opinions are right or wrong ?? If nothing else TOX has a place in Londons graff history and will be rememberd long after 95% of the artists mentioned on here. If you dont mind me asking, what even got you into graff ?? ps...no more shouting, coz its me that will get the ban
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TOX π¬π§ Graffiti β’ Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by hlarmy on Mar 4, 2009 12:17:37 GMT 1, the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te The mark of success of a print is that it sells out instantly? Wholly disagree, all that an instant sell out means is that it is flippable. For me this TOX print is the single biggest success of the last 12 months and what makes it 100 times better is you can still buy it
Are you being serious; not having a go just interested? Why is this print such a massive success (considering it's been a strong 12 months)?
the fact that you can still buy them speaks volume, and if that isnt loud enough for you, its s**te The mark of success of a print is that it sells out instantly? Wholly disagree, all that an instant sell out means is that it is flippable. For me this TOX print is the single biggest success of the last 12 months and what makes it 100 times better is you can still buy itAre you being serious; not having a go just interested? Why is this print such a massive success (considering it's been a strong 12 months)?
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