[Zippy]

He is actually a 'she' and an old member of the forums and the OEF.

She has been completely honest about the print and description as I remember her discussing it when she bought it.

The print has been trimmed short across the top and has some fading where the shop lights have hit it.

You can not reverse the damamge but it might be worth asking her for some better pictures of where the fading is so you can make a decision.

You can certainly trust her. I am sure its genuine (subject ot the usual checks etc..) but please consider that it has been trimmed short by the shop.

[pokodogo]

Cheers Zippy

"Trimmed"........ why would any framer/shop worth their salt trim a print surely thats like cutting someones hand off !!!

I read it in a way that it had been cropped meaning the mount in the frame cropped the bottom/top of the print (hence the fading). Not that the print had been cut down in size.

I dont think i could bid on it cos I would always know ive been sold a trimmed and light damaged print so to speak.

At least the seller hasnt covered it up and just tried to sell it on framed up, which seems fair play......

Zippy ... What sort of money is this worth then ??

[walshy]

Id be looking at sold GWB's and taking at least 25% off. Its not like ripples or even a tear that can be fixed by a good restorer

[mattgold]

This is the second GWB that I know of to be 'trimmed'.

I considered a 'trimmed' (signed) GWB before I bought my current GWB. I really tried desperately to convince myself I wanted it, everything would be ok, *I'd* still love it regardless, etc, etc.

But in the end, I couldn't pull the trigger. If you want a deal, sure, it'll go cheap - but why not then just buy a gilcee?

-M

[Zippy]

I could not put a value on it which is why ebay is the best bet for it.
It's worth more than a poster but nowhere near what a mint copy would go for.

It's already going for more than I would have guessed.

[pokodogo]

My thoughts entirely ........ at the top end of what it should go for now.

As I said it would always niggle with me if I got it. What i think is worse than it been trimmed (if we are reading the ad right, im still not sure) is the fading of the image............ the white will be a "mucky white" and who knows the colour difference of the image.

As said above its not as if any damage can be rectified by a restorer.

It will certainely be interesting to see what this fetches ......... as they say "unfortunately I wont be investing, I'm OUT!"

[dotdot]

interesting story - and in someways a sad tale - these things do happen.
.. on the other hand it's a happy tale, someone's going to buy it & love it for what it is.

(any seller) being up front deserves all the +1's you can garner - given it's
a/ auth
b/ being sold by an authentic banksy collector. (ah the oef ...)

I have no idea what it'll go for - but think it will still hit 1k before getting heady towards the end.

..to anyone here who wins ( 41 watchers and 7 days to go..!..) - well done.

[walshy]

Jul 25, 2010 14:48:44 GMT 1 dotdot said:

interesting story - and in someways a sad tale - these things do happen.
.. on the other hand it's a happy tale, someone's going to buy it & love it for what it is.

(any seller) being up front deserves all the +1's you can garner - given it's
a/ auth
b/ being sold by an authentic banksy collector. (ah the oef ...)

I have no idea what it'll go for - but think it will still hit 1k before getting heady towards the end.

..to anyone here who wins ( 41 watchers and 7 days to go..!..) - well done.

how do you know how many watchers it has ?

[mmmike]

Jul 25, 2010 15:05:07 GMT 1 walshy said:

Jul 25, 2010 14:48:44 GMT 1 dotdot said:

interesting story - and in someways a sad tale - these things do happen.
.. on the other hand it's a happy tale, someone's going to buy it & love it for what it is.

(any seller) being up front deserves all the +1's you can garner - given it's
a/ auth
b/ being sold by an authentic banksy collector. (ah the oef ...)

I have no idea what it'll go for - but think it will still hit 1k before getting heady towards the end.

..to anyone here who wins ( 41 watchers and 7 days to go..!..) - well done.

how do you know how many watchers it has ?

www.watchcount.com/

[rosstierney]

has the image faded due to uv rays OR, has the area under the mount been affected due to it being highly acidic? i'm thinking the latter. unless you can live with the discolouration, your mounting options are restricted to what you see in the pics.

[Curley]

IMO its utterly ruined.
Cropping the paper down by 7.5 cm is madness, not only that but just looks wrong.

[Warm Gun]

I agree, I could never love such a mutilated beast.

[pokodogo]

Well the Seller has confirmed that it has been cut down

A cut down, badly colour distorted print .................. and its up to nearly £500

If it was mint am i right in saying £2k ish ........ in this prints state surely it is a print not worth the paper its printed on.

Or am i missing something

[motor]

You're not missing anything.
Just witnessing people's stupidity

[Happy Shopper]

Signed, I'd buy it, unsigned, not a chance. It's just a poster now.

[craigf]

I asked the question on the auction so we didn't have to speculate / knew for certain. I've got one anyway, but thought it would help anyone considering bidding.

[hlarmy]

Personally I wouldn't touch it, especially at the price it is already going for, crazy money. It's not damaged, it's fooked. If you like the image that much, buy a fake off eBay...

[pokodogo]

Hi Hlarmy

Exactly my thoughts two, it is "fooked".

I was perhaps gonna bid but not at the price it is now, i will have to wait for a decent one to come up and pay the right price, if one comes up.

I see the sellers got a "flags" as well (also damaged / creased) what sort of price are they 500-600mark. ?

[naughtyshorty]

maybe its just my computer screen, but it actually doesnt look so bad to me.. the GWB are printed on that yellowy/off white paper anyway, so the actualy colour of the print doesnt look so bad. i even wonder if the seller has confused the "light damage" for the actual colour the print is in the first place...? also the detail and colour of the girl and the balloon also look good, so to my eyes, it doesnt looks so bad.

always annoying to get a print with the top cut off, but it does happen. doesnt hugely affect the image, but would bug the buyer for sure. without a doubt. at the end of the day though, this is one of the most loved banksy prints, and always will be, unless he does another girlfriend friendly print some time soon...! if you love the print, and dont have between 7-10k for a signed, or 3-5 for an unsigned, i reckon this is a good bargain..

and if you think cutting the top off a banksy is bad, i know of someone who back in the day stuck one up on their fridge using sellotape back in the day. easily easily done when its just a cheap print you bought for £50!!!!

[pokodogo]

Could it be as "Ross" says further up that the image is not UV damaged and that it could be the use of "un-acid free" materials in the mount that has distorted the colour of the print.

"i reckon this is a good bargain.." ......... im not to sure about that naughtyshorty !

[naughtyshorty]

you might be right there..

i would like to see more images, and images of better quality.

a better quality computer screen would probably help me too!

[simonf]

www.watchcount.com/

well all things aside that is a very interesting site!!

love it!